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Feb 15, 2020 10:19 PM
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Also, that sucks. I was hoping this was somehow in the same timeline as Madoka Magica. Oh well. Guess that sort of means the events of the original Madoka Magica have no importance or meaning here which also sucks since I think most of us wanted to see a sequel to the original Madoka Magica so it would have been nice to at least see a side story that builds on the world of the original, but again oh well. Its still pretty good.


Well Magia Record could never be a side story of the original anime. The simple reason being witches no longer exist there, so making a side story of it would have the conclusion we all know of; Madoka becomes God and everyone who died cuz of witches becomes alive again. We already have a sequel to Original, and it's called Wraith Arc (hope Shaft adapts the Manga since it's so cool). The sequel to Wraith Arc is Rebellion Story, and the sequel to Rebellion is in production.

No Madoka Story is complete without Homura, since she's the one who creates timeline. But what if Homura decided not to travel back in time? Madoka would not become so powerful as a result. But witches exist in Magia Record. Now you should be able to understand the consequences of all this.
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wow what a polarizing episode for me. I play the game unlike most people who watch the anime. Up til last episode, i believe the anime did things better but this arc was done poorly in my opinion. The pacing was extremely rushed and they cut/changed a lot of content. I’m scared that in the future they might rush the other arcs as well to make up for a measly 13 episode run


Felicia, the twins, kyoko, and mifuyu and yachiyos reunions all could have been done much better with some extra time, maybe just another episode devoted to this arc. maybe i’m biased though because the game came out first.

still love this series and i recommend the game. Beautiful music and art. 3/5
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Is this really supposed to just be 1 cour? If so, we're halfway and most of the characters are still underdeveloped, they keep adding new ones and there are no stakes (sure, since the 'luck' counter hit zero, something might happen, but still). We should be seeing the lead up to the climax by now, but, imo, there's none. The pacing of this episode was all over the place as well. I think this could have been easily two episodes, but I guess this fits it being one cour. Still, sudden changes of heart barely explained, if at all. The directing and the art are amazingly done, but the writing is mediocre at best so far.
Feb 16, 2020 2:17 AM
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Kosmonaut said:
Is this really supposed to just be 1 cour? If so, we're halfway and most of the characters are still underdeveloped, they keep adding new ones and there are no stakes (sure, since the 'luck' counter hit zero, something might happen, but still). We should be seeing the lead up to the climax by now, but, imo, there's none. The pacing of this episode was all over the place as well. I think this could have been easily two episodes, but I guess this fits it being one cour. Still, sudden changes of heart barely explained, if at all. The directing and the art are amazingly done, but the writing is mediocre at best so far.
I'm sure it will split in two cours now, like Attack on Titans season 3. 10 chapters, two episodes per chapter. 5 main characters and now we have only four, so episode 8 and 9 will introduce at least one more character. I am Taiwanese and everyone on every chinese forum all says that the other cour will appear in July, and this speculation really make sense to me. It MUST have 24 or 26 episodes. As for the pace, I think they want to get into the main story faster.
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the sequel to Rebellion is in production..


It is? Never heard about this. Well I hope they can make it soon cause I'd love to see more Homura and Madoka.
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hailhomura said:
Kosmonaut said:
Is this really supposed to just be 1 cour? If so, we're halfway and most of the characters are still underdeveloped, they keep adding new ones and there are no stakes (sure, since the 'luck' counter hit zero, something might happen, but still). We should be seeing the lead up to the climax by now, but, imo, there's none. The pacing of this episode was all over the place as well. I think this could have been easily two episodes, but I guess this fits it being one cour. Still, sudden changes of heart barely explained, if at all. The directing and the art are amazingly done, but the writing is mediocre at best so far.
I'm sure it will split in two cours now, like Attack on Titans season 3. 10 chapters, two episodes per chapter. 5 main characters and now we have only four, so episode 8 and 9 will introduce at least one more character. I am Taiwanese and everyone on every chinese forum all says that the other cour will appear in July, and this speculation really make sense to me. It MUST have 24 or 26 episodes. As for the pace, I think they want to get into the main story faster.
Oh, I see. If that's true, it makes a lot more sense story- and plot-wise. Thanks for the info, btw.
Feb 16, 2020 5:42 AM

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salarx said:
the sequel to Rebellion is in production..


It is? Never heard about this. Well I hope they can make it soon cause I'd love to see more Homura and Madoka.


The president of the studio said this was in pre production in march 2019: https://www.otaquest.com/new-madoka-sequel-series-hinted/
The staff promised that the main series isn't over yet (july 2019): https://comicbook.com/anime/2019/07/06/madoka-magica-series-not-over-anime-expo/
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Feb 16, 2020 5:55 AM

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Felicia needs a much needed warm hug and all the happiness that follows, the poor girl. =(

This episode went by quickly and what a blast it certainly was. I was happy that Kyouko got involved in this and she played her part in helping Felicia get her mind together and fight for herself, which was a wise thing to do considering Kyouko's past and all. The close-up shot of Felicia snarling so menacingly at the witches was beautifully animated. =)

As for the others, dealing with the twins of the Magius occult was tricky, but thanks to Felicia and Kyouko, the twins resorted to using their own witch power to try and gain the upper hand. Thankfully, Iroha was able to do the same and was able to take out the Uwasa, which ended the fight altogether.

One thing I wasn't expecting was Mifuyu to make an appearance, with her also a part of this occult. Despite Yachiyo's pleas, Mifuyu didn't change her mind and thus made a retreat. The occult's intentions sounds decent, but Kyouko was right to criticise that plan. Mifuyu needs to be stopped, the sooner, the better.

It's nice now that Iroha and Felicia will be staying at the boarding house with Yachiyo now. Felicia won't be feeling lonely anymore. ^_^
Feb 16, 2020 6:10 AM

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Kosmonaut said:
Is this really supposed to just be 1 cour? If so, we're halfway and most of the characters are still underdeveloped, they keep adding new ones and there are no stakes (sure, since the 'luck' counter hit zero, something might happen, but still). We should be seeing the lead up to the climax by now, but, imo, there's none. The pacing of this episode was all over the place as well. I think this could have been easily two episodes, but I guess this fits it being one cour. Still, sudden changes of heart barely explained, if at all. The directing and the art are amazingly done, but the writing is mediocre at best so far.
The problem with this adaptation is that the game puts the more expansive format to good use - chapter 4(these two episodes) has thirty-six battles, all of which have several minutes of story attached before or after(and many have story on both sides) - so there's a lot of distillation involved(which unfortunately comes at the expense of the characters with how many there are).

However, this rigid pacing will take us right through chapter seven, which works as a stopping point. And that may well be the intent: give us an ending that's satiating but not quite satisfying, driving people to the game to see the rest of the plot. Now it's possible they do have a second cour ready to start production, but I highly doubt we'd see this pacing had it been unconditionally greenlit: I'd expect the pacing to favor the next chapter as the capstone were that the case.
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Uhh the pacing does seems off for this one.. obviously a rushed episode just to get over to the next arc it's hard to conceal my dissatisfaction. Sure there are some focus on Felicia and Kyouko, but their action ends in a few minutes.

The main problem for me is, for the sake of doppel, their soulgem pollute pretty quickly despite barely an intense fight, Iroha also barely took damage with the luck she had (apologize but some details like this disturbs me). I even countered myself with "that's why we get Witches everywhere since their soulgem don't last", but when I see they didn't even try, I just can't..

Even showcase of the doppel ended in a flash with Iroha one-shotted the rumor and the twins did nothing of threatening. Good for those who enjoyed this episode, I can't do anything but hope the next one is better.

P.S. I'm kinda a Witch person so I actually love more witch showing their movement and attack patterns, granted Rumor in this universe, sadly they one shotted it... :(
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I guess this means that Felicia doesn't know the truth about witches. I wonder if she will react the same way Mami did and start killing her friends? That could actually be kind of sad since she seems to be closer to them than Mami was with her friends. Especially since they live together and everything.

Interesting how the witch that killed Felicia's parents looks like her own doppel. I guess she can't have killed them herself since she wasn't a magical girl yet but I guess she is blaming herself for trusting Kyubey who is the true culprit.
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Ether_Real said:
P.S. I'm kinda a Witch person so I actually love more witch showing their movement and attack patterns, granted Rumor in this universe, sadly they one shotted it... :(
The uwasa in the game only cried single tears to launch its attacks(summoning familiars or causing little quakes), so there wasn't really anything to miss.
Feb 16, 2020 7:23 AM

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Interesting how the witch that killed Felicia's parents looks like her own doppel. I guess she can't have killed them herself since she wasn't a magical girl yet but I guess she is blaming herself for trusting Kyubey who is the true culprit.
Well, I suppose if you want to know the reason for that...
Feb 16, 2020 7:53 AM
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Polycell said:
Emelie_ said:
Interesting how the witch that killed Felicia's parents looks like her own doppel. I guess she can't have killed them herself since she wasn't a magical girl yet but I guess she is blaming herself for trusting Kyubey who is the true culprit.
Well, I suppose if you want to know the reason for that...

That's the thing that made me fully hate Kyubey
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Polycell said:
Ether_Real said:
P.S. I'm kinda a Witch person so I actually love more witch showing their movement and attack patterns, granted Rumor in this universe, sadly they one shotted it... :(
The uwasa in the game only cried single tears to launch its attacks(summoning familiars or causing little quakes), so there wasn't really anything to miss.


True, I'm actually appreciate they animate the movement, attacks and labyrinth, especially when two witch barrier clashed. But my main problem is even if they got it away with the lucky water they wrapped it up too quickly, I would like if they leave Mifuyu to next to try sway to main cast with the system, Tsuruno could even cut into their conversation she's just standing right next to her.
Feb 16, 2020 9:34 AM

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PlanetCeres said:
wow what a polarizing episode for me. I play the game unlike most people who watch the anime. Up til last episode, i believe the anime did things better but this arc was done poorly in my opinion. The pacing was extremely rushed and they cut/changed a lot of content. I’m scared that in the future they might rush the other arcs as well to make up for a measly 13 episode run


Felicia, the twins, kyoko, and mifuyu and yachiyos reunions all could have been done much better with some extra time, maybe just another episode devoted to this arc. maybe i’m biased though because the game came out first.

still love this series and i recommend the game. Beautiful music and art. 3/5


Another player here, while I agree that it was rushed, the alternation was not that bad. Regardless, I am a bit worried about how the anime will cover the Memory Museum, judging by the pace, it will be fast as well.

So far I am enjoying the series even with all the changes, since the anime gives smaller details that the game could not provide.
Feb 16, 2020 10:11 AM

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Not surprised to see the white evil looking rat at the scene when Felecia's parents was killed!! Honey the rat did it!! Its evil!! Look at its eyes and the burning hate!!! Sweetie pie please smash that thing with your hammer before it kills again!!






The magical lesbians went on a killing spree!! Slathering witches destroying the source of the lucky water and found a missing girlfriend!! Tsuruno pumpkin!! Never trust someone who talks about your salvation!!


And then it gets even better! The lesbian couple Yachiyo and Iroha are moving in together!!!,,YEEEEEEEEEES!! They are in a serious relationship and want to take the next step!! Maybe we will see a lesbian wedding in the future!! And they adopted a pet Felicia!!! Awwwww they are so cute!! They should do some lesbian kissing!!,,YEEEEEEES!!


My magical lesbians have been so pure,, They dont talk about or showing any kind of interest in boys!! So glad to see that!!! You had 8/10 for being pure and all the strong Yuri vibes you now have 10/10. And are the best seasonal winter anime in my book!! Keep it up or that 10 will be removed!!







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Ether_Real said:


The main problem for me is, for the sake of doppel, their soulgem pollute pretty quickly despite barely an intense fight, Iroha also barely took damage with the luck she had (apologize but some details like this disturbs me). I even countered myself with "that's why we get Witches everywhere since their soulgem don't last", but when I see they didn't even try, I just can't..



It's not just using magic that taints a soul gem, it's negativity too. And Iroha not only has been using her magic on and off but she continues to be a burden to the people around her. Even those twins just outright observe her as weak - something she's clearly sensitive about deep down.
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hmm not sure how to feel about this series so far, I had decently high expectations since this is Madoka related, but so far it feels like we're going all over the place with new magical girls every ep and not enough focus on the main cast.
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Interesting episode but i was hopping to see Mami-san again.:v
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PlanetCeres said:
wow what a polarizing episode for me. I play the game unlike most people who watch the anime. Up til last episode, i believe the anime did things better but this arc was done poorly in my opinion. The pacing was extremely rushed and they cut/changed a lot of content. I’m scared that in the future they might rush the other arcs as well to make up for a measly 13 episode run


Felicia, the twins, kyoko, and mifuyu and yachiyos reunions all could have been done much better with some extra time, maybe just another episode devoted to this arc. maybe i’m biased though because the game came out first.

still love this series and i recommend the game. Beautiful music and art. 3/5
In fact the pace is pretty bad, but why would changing the things the game built be a bad thing?
Iroha's interactions with the other girls in the game are childish, given the hostility and situation in which they find themselves. The game takes a long time in their comic conflicts with the twins and takes too dynamic resolutions. The anime creates a really tense and messy conflict, where just acting fast is the choice, and that's how it should be, considering the circumstances.
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Hero_Luka said:
hmm not sure how to feel about this series so far, I had decently high expectations since this is Madoka related, but so far it feels like we're going all over the place with new magical girls every ep and not enough focus on the main cast.

Don't even want to know what happened to her...
Feb 16, 2020 3:30 PM
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Polycell said:
Kosmonaut said:
Is this really supposed to just be 1 cour? If so, we're halfway and most of the characters are still underdeveloped, they keep adding new ones and there are no stakes (sure, since the 'luck' counter hit zero, something might happen, but still). We should be seeing the lead up to the climax by now, but, imo, there's none. The pacing of this episode was all over the place as well. I think this could have been easily two episodes, but I guess this fits it being one cour. Still, sudden changes of heart barely explained, if at all. The directing and the art are amazingly done, but the writing is mediocre at best so far.

The problem with this adaptation is that the game puts the more expansive format to good use - chapter 4(these two episodes) has thirty-six battles, all of which have several minutes of story attached before or after(and many have story on both sides) - so there's a lot of distillation involved(which unfortunately comes at the expense of the characters with how many there are).

However, this rigid pacing will take us right through chapter seven, which works as a stopping point. And that may well be the intent: give us an ending that's satiating but not quite satisfying, driving people to the game to see the rest of the plot. Now it's possible they do have a second cour ready to start production, but I highly doubt we'd see this pacing had it been unconditionally greenlit: I'd expect the pacing to favor the next chapter as the capstone were that the case.

Chapter 4 has a length of ~120 minutes and that's been condensed into ~40 minutes of anime, so yeah.

My own guess is that they're going to end the season with chapter 6, since it has a nice cliffhanger ending. And I don't think both 6 and 7 can be fit into 4 episodes.

I still don't believe they would just leave the story unfinished, or that they would start producing the second cour only after this one's finished airing. It's probably going to air later this year, like people have been speculating.
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Yuri-Crusader said:
The lesbian couple Yachiyo and Iroha are moving in together!!!,,YEEEEEEEEEES!! They are in a serious relationship and want to take the next step!! Maybe we will see a lesbian wedding in the future!! And they adopted a pet Felicia!!! Awwwww they are so cute!! They should do some lesbian kissing!!,,YEEEEEEES!!
You are aware that Iroha is still in middle school, right? And that Yachiyo's already started university?
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My own guess is that they're going to end the season with chapter 6, since it has a nice cliffhanger ending.
It's definitely not a bad stopping point for a mid-series break, if you wanted to give 7 - 10 more breathing room. Admittedly I've only played through chapter eight,(since that's what's available in the English version), so that might be more necessary than I think.
And I don't think both 6 and 7 can be fit into 4 episodes.
Outside of the first episode, they've been following a very rigid cadence. It's possible they'll break it later, but nothing so far makes me think they will(and the numbers add up for a chapter seven stop: six chapters with two episodes each, plus one to replace the first chapter, equals thirteen episodes).
I still don't believe they would just leave the story unfinished, or that they would start producing the second cour only after this one's finished airing. It's probably going to air later this year, like people have been speculating.
A hard stop at the end of chapter seven would be in good company with anime that have ended on an open note without going full "fuck you, buy the source". Given that we still haven't had any corroboration on the two cour claim, any preparations already laid for that second cour were likely made for the case the anime performs above expectations and not with the anticipation that it would actually be realized(in this event, I'd expect the call to be made shortly after the first volume goes on sale about two and a half weeks from now).
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Polycell said:
It's definitely not a bad stopping point for a mid-series break, if you wanted to give 7 - 10 more breathing room. Admittedly I've only played through chapter eight,(since that's what's available in the English version), so that might be more necessary than I think.
Outside of the first episode, they've been following a very rigid cadence. It's possible they'll break it later, but nothing so far makes me think they will(and the numbers add up for a chapter seven stop: six chapters with two episodes each, plus one to replace the first chapter, equals thirteen episodes).

For reference, the rough lengths of the chapters in the game (h:mm):
01: 0:40
02: 1:20
03: 1:40
04: 2:00
05: 2:40
06: 3:00
07: 3:10
08: 4:00
09: 3:30
10: 4:00
So chapters 1-6 would be 44% of the length and chapters 1-7 would be 56%.
Assuming 26 episodes, we're currently at 27% of the anime's runtime with 22% of the game's story.
Of course that's a rough estimate based on the temporal length, and I think the latter chapters have more stuff that can be easily cut out. Still, 6 and 7 are clearly longer than the previous chapters.

A hard stop at the end of chapter seven would be in good company with anime that have ended on an open note without going full "fuck you, buy the source". Given that we still haven't had any corroboration on the two cour claim, any preparations already laid for that second cour were likely made for the case the anime performs above expectations and not with the anticipation that it would actually be realized(in this event, I'd expect the call to be made shortly after the first volume goes on sale about two and a half weeks from now).

Wouldn't that mean a gap of more than a year in between? That would be two separate seasons rather than a "split-cour".
It also occurred to me that this is being released in 5 volumes which (based on what I've seen) is more typical of a two-cour series, although you can't really infer much from that.
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What's your take on Amane-shipping?

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Felicia so reckless!
4/5.

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Aaah, thanks for showing Felicia kindness, that was so cute and heartwarming;_;





now this is a Magical DOGEZA! lolz!


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Yuhani said:

What's your take on Amane-shipping?



I know you weren't asking me but I kind of liked it. It's definitely strange, as incestuous relationships typically are, but this one has a depth of sadness to it.

Ignoring what we know of these two very lonely, very overstressed girls, the anime gives quite a bit to go off of in the subtext.

The inherent reality that they're both magical girls, dressed the same, and have witches that make up two halves of a whole speaks volumes of their background, their closeness. With the terrible fate of magical girls pushing them to this cult, and their blatant admission of only doing this for each other, it's clear their lot in life broke them to the point of only wanting one another.

Their witches speaks of their desire to live in their own little world, as does their battle cries: "isolate ourselves!" "Stifle all noise!"

It's sad and sweet at the same time. Weird yet desperate and understandable. Gives conflicting feelings. Which honestly Madoka characters should, because they're usually reflective of real people in how they behave internally
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Polycell said:
Kosmonaut said:
Is this really supposed to just be 1 cour? If so, we're halfway and most of the characters are still underdeveloped, they keep adding new ones and there are no stakes (sure, since the 'luck' counter hit zero, something might happen, but still). We should be seeing the lead up to the climax by now, but, imo, there's none. The pacing of this episode was all over the place as well. I think this could have been easily two episodes, but I guess this fits it being one cour. Still, sudden changes of heart barely explained, if at all. The directing and the art are amazingly done, but the writing is mediocre at best so far.
The problem with this adaptation is that the game puts the more expansive format to good use - chapter 4(these two episodes) has thirty-six battles, all of which have several minutes of story attached before or after(and many have story on both sides) - so there's a lot of distillation involved(which unfortunately comes at the expense of the characters with how many there are).

However, this rigid pacing will take us right through chapter seven, which works as a stopping point. And that may well be the intent: give us an ending that's satiating but not quite satisfying, driving people to the game to see the rest of the plot. Now it's possible they do have a second cour ready to start production, but I highly doubt we'd see this pacing had it been unconditionally greenlit: I'd expect the pacing to favor the next chapter as the capstone were that the case.
You're probably right about leaving people wanting more to check out the game (which is nothing different from 'go read the manga' endings), as seeing that I wasn't really satisfied with the anime and started playing the game yesterday. I can see it backfiring on them though, since people that aren't big fans of the franchise won't check the game and will just be dissatisfied with the anime.
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PlanetCeres said:
wow what a polarizing episode for me. I play the game unlike most people who watch the anime. Up til last episode, i believe the anime did things better but this arc was done poorly in my opinion. The pacing was extremely rushed and they cut/changed a lot of content. I’m scared that in the future they might rush the other arcs as well to make up for a measly 13 episode run


Felicia, the twins, kyoko, and mifuyu and yachiyos reunions all could have been done much better with some extra time, maybe just another episode devoted to this arc. maybe i’m biased though because the game came out first.

still love this series and i recommend the game. Beautiful music and art. 3/5
In fact the pace is pretty bad, but why would changing the things the game built be a bad thing?
Iroha's interactions with the other girls in the game are childish, given the hostility and situation in which they find themselves. The game takes a long time in their comic conflicts with the twins and takes too dynamic resolutions. The anime creates a really tense and messy conflict, where just acting fast is the choice, and that's how it should be, considering the circumstances.
They don’t flesh out the characters and situations nearly as much as needed. They skipped exposition that frankly felt required moving forwards. Iroha searching for Nemu shows that Ui is still her ultimate goal. Kyoko drinking the water gave her actual motivation to be involved in the fight. Yachiyo and Kyoko discovering how rumors were spread and Iroha and Felica building up a relationship to make the betrayal more impactful. They skimped on Yahichiyo and Mifuyus reunion. It just seems they changed things for the sole purpose of cutting content down at the expense of the actual story. It doesn’t feel like an entire arc like it’s supposed to be and I’m unsatisfied. (also note Iroha one shotting rumor by activating her doppel again when that’s supposed to be a special thing, anticlimactic ending etc)
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Kyoko drinking the water gave her actual motivation to be involved in the fight.

Kyoko did drink the water in the anime, if you look at episode 6 at 11:37 you can see empty water bottles
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PlanetCeres said:
EuOdeioFMAB said:
In fact the pace is pretty bad, but why would changing the things the game built be a bad thing?
Iroha's interactions with the other girls in the game are childish, given the hostility and situation in which they find themselves. The game takes a long time in their comic conflicts with the twins and takes too dynamic resolutions. The anime creates a really tense and messy conflict, where just acting fast is the choice, and that's how it should be, considering the circumstances.
They don’t flesh out the characters and situations nearly as much as needed. They skipped exposition that frankly felt required moving forwards. Iroha searching for Nemu shows that Ui is still her ultimate goal. Kyoko drinking the water gave her actual motivation to be involved in the fight. Yachiyo and Kyoko discovering how rumors were spread and Iroha and Felica building up a relationship to make the betrayal more impactful. They skimped on Yahichiyo and Mifuyus reunion. It just seems they changed things for the sole purpose of cutting content down at the expense of the actual story. It doesn’t feel like an entire arc like it’s supposed to be and I’m unsatisfied. (also note Iroha one shotting rumor by activating her doppel again when that’s supposed to be a special thing, anticlimactic ending etc)

She drank the water yes
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Eroha said:
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Kyoko drinking the water gave her actual motivation to be involved in the fight.

Kyoko did drink the water in the anime, if you look at episode 6 at 11:37 you can see empty water bottles
in the game, she drank the water with felicia and iroha in the beginning. why was she even there if she wasn’t investigating the shit caused by drinking water. To find witches? there’s witches everywhere
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Eroha said:

Kyoko did drink the water in the anime, if you look at episode 6 at 11:37 you can see empty water bottles
in the game, she drank the water with felicia and iroha in the beginning. why was she even there if she wasn’t investigating the shit caused by drinking water. To find witches? there’s witches everywhere

She wanted to know why the witches are being drawn to this city, it was a necessary investigation
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It's been some time now since I've watched the episode and I still struggle with understanding what exactly happened. Even though part of this is due to me having problems with keeping up with all these characters in the show, most of this is because nothing really happened. Yes, we had a showdown... or something like this and yes we had a climax with the "bad guys" running away. Of course it was unexpected to see Mifuyu with but I still don't get what they are all about, so it loses a lot of it's impact to me.

Apart from that the ending was really strange, how did we get to that? Will by the end all of the main characters live in that one house? Is this from the original game? Without having ever played it, I get the feeling this is the main "hub" from where everything starts. So over time we get more and more parts from the game getting through into the anime, resulting in the showing feeling less and less like a TV show and more like a game. To me it's a bit sad to see it coming through that strong. Mainly because I still can't get rid of the feeling, that this feels really plain and most of the story we got so far is pretty repetitive as a general concept (new character, struggle with something, struggle resolved, everyone happy). If this keeps up, I will not be someone who will remember this show as a unique experience.
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Eroha said:
PlanetCeres said:
Kyoko drinking the water gave her actual motivation to be involved in the fight.

Kyoko did drink the water in the anime, if you look at episode 6 at 11:37 you can see empty water bottles

Based on episode 7, I don't think she drank it.
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The vibe I got was more along the lines of not wanting to pay off debt with more debt(what the Amanes were effectively proposing), which seems in-character. But they gut her part to the point where we don't even get her name, so I can see missing it.
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Kyouko doesn't act like she personally has any stake in the whole matter. She doesn't seem worried for herself and she doesn't try to destroy the Uwasa.
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Kyouko doesn't act like she personally has any stake in the whole matter. She doesn't seem worried for herself and she doesn't try to destroy the Uwasa.

Ummmmmm Kyoko mastered the art of not giving a f**k.
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Yuhani said:
Kyouko doesn't act like she personally has any stake in the whole matter. She doesn't seem worried for herself and she doesn't try to destroy the Uwasa.


She was interested in a grief seed exchange deal. This is clear when she says she believes the Wings of Magius may be responsible for the gathering of witches in Kamihama, which could end her life in Kazamino if she ran out of grief seeds.
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salarx said:
Yuhani said:
Kyouko doesn't act like she personally has any stake in the whole matter. She doesn't seem worried for herself and she doesn't try to destroy the Uwasa.

Ummmmmm Kyoko mastered the art of not giving a f**k.

She does care about herself. In the game she's very determined to destroy the Uwasa, because she drank the water.

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Yuhani said:
Kyouko doesn't act like she personally has any stake in the whole matter. She doesn't seem worried for herself and she doesn't try to destroy the Uwasa.

She was interested in a grief seed exchange deal. This is clear when she says she believes the Wings of Magius may be responsible for the gathering of witches in Kamihama, which could end her life in Kazamino if she ran out of grief seeds.

Yes, in the anime that is the reason she gets involved.
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Ayy this episode was lit. Felicia snapped and started killing all the witches, she's opaf. Also I wonder what happened when she touched Iroha's hand. She got some ultra jet buff there lol.
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Also I wonder what happened when she touched Iroha's hand. She got some ultra jet buff there lol.


It's a game mechanic called "Connect" which you pass your innate magic to another party, just like what Rena and Momoko in Ep2

btw this Connect thing is also shown in the Rebellion movie, not much peeps have notice tho
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It sure would be a twist if Madoka, Sayaka and Homura were the 3 leaders.
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pipn123 said:
It sure would be a twist if Madoka, Sayaka and Homura were the 3 leaders.


I agree, but then Mami would know what is happening in the city and wouldn't have interrogated Yachiyo.

Ether_Real said:
btw this Connect thing is also shown in the Rebellion movie, not much peeps have notice tho


I didn't notice, when did this happen?
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pipn123 said:
It sure would be a twist if Madoka, Sayaka and Homura were the 3 leaders.


I agree, but then Mami would know what is happening in the city and wouldn't have interrogated Yachiyo.

Doesn’t this take place in an alternate universe? Mami could have not meet them yet. Or, another theory I have is that it could be Madoka, Sayaka and Homira from the main timeline after Madoka become the god like being. (I haven’t seen the rebellion movie so this is what I have theorised).
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pipn123 said:
Doesn’t this take place in an alternate universe? Mami could have not meet them yet. Or, another theory I have is that it could be Madoka, Sayaka and Homira from the main timeline after Madoka become the god like being. (I haven’t seen the rebellion movie so this is what I have theorised).


Mami and Madoka live in the same city and work together. The only one from the main timeline that might not know the others in this universe is Kyouko, who is from Kazamino.
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