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Aug 4, 2016 11:45 AM
#51
Aug 4, 2016 11:48 AM
#52
oh, now this explains the whole situation between ruruka, sounosuke and seiko in future arc! and komaeda was the cause of it all :/ yukizome leaving was sad ;_; |
Aug 4, 2016 11:57 AM
#53
FragOutFire said: Oh man, they went full retard this episode. why didn't seiko properly label any of her chemicals? why didn't andou taste-test her stupid science fair project muffins? why didn't seiko or nagito check their bags to make sure they had their own bag? why did nagito use a real bomb instead just the threat of a bomb? Everyone made horrible decisions, most of all Nagito. Everyone was passing around the idiot ball. Kizakura got punished by jin kirigiri for no reason. But the worst thing is: the twilight syndrome murder case has no relevance to the plot at all. i wish the future characters would stay in future and not butt-in despair arc time. seiko, ando and izayoi are the least interesting part of future, and they're back for more Totally agreed, weaksauce episode. Especially after last week's interesting one... While I again, agree with you that the idiot ball got tossed around pretty wildly, I suppose there could be some "excuses": 1) It seemed like she did label them, but she didn't label them as what they'd be referred to as by the layman (which is strange, considering she customised them for Komaeda and Andou, to my recollection). Komaeda appeared to be listening when Kimura was talking about it being a "reactivator". But given Andou's attitude when Kimura was talking about the "reanimator", one could say Andou wasn't really paying attention. But again, Komaeda was, so... 2) Any culinary professional serving up food- especially for important guests- will taste test their damn food. I suppose the "excuse" is that Andou wanted to dodge taste testing as she didn't want to take in the drug's effects? 3) Kimura was in a hurry, so you could "excuse" her rushing off. However, you'd think Komaeda would want to check! 4) If I had to make a guess, perhaps Komaeda wanted to make "absolutely sure" that the exams won't take place? A threat could quickly be proven to be just that, but an actual explosion with serious damage would be more likely to advance his goals? Yeah, what was the point in Kizakura getting punished other than to advance the plot in the desired direction? Was Jin seriously expecting Kizakura to be able to predict the actions of every single student scouted? The only "excuse" I can think of is how Komaeda appears to have been "loony" from the start, so Kizakura should have "known better"... >=S I have to disagree that the Twilight Syndrome murder case had no relevance "at all". If it didn't happen, Komaeda wouldn't have come up with his stupid plan since the class wouldn't be so down. Though why the *entire* class is depressed about it doesn't make perfect sense, in my eyes. Koizumi, Fuyuhiko and Pekoyama, obviously have good reasons. Nanami possibly has Hinata as an excuse but she obviously wasn't directly affected by it. You could stretch it with BFF Saionji being "very concerned for her friend". But for people totally unrelated to Natsumi and Satou... Would some random's murder be something that would weigh on your mind enough to distract you from frying the bigger fish in your life like important exams? Bit of a stretch... While I like the idea of the Mirai-hen peeps getting some background in Zetsubou-hen, I agree that Andou and her lapdog are the least interesting FF members. I'm still on the fence with Kimura, though this episode slightly warmed me up to her. It's clearly meant to make her look like "the better guy" in the Andou vs. Kimura skirmish. |
Aug 4, 2016 12:16 PM
#54
Pooyan22 said: Kimura was in a hurry, so you could "excuse" her rushing off. However, you'd think Komaeda would want to check! Nah, knowing Komaeda, he would never think about checking the bag. If there is something he trusts more than anything else is his talent, his luck. I think the thought that the bags could be switched didn't even crossed his mind XD |
Aug 4, 2016 12:26 PM
#55
taynis said: Pooyan22 said: Kimura was in a hurry, so you could "excuse" her rushing off. However, you'd think Komaeda would want to check! Nah, knowing Komaeda, he would never think about checking the bag. If there is something he trusts more than anything else is his talent, his luck. I think the thought that the bags could be switched didn't even crossed his mind XD That's the only "good" excuse, I'd think. Must be nice having a character like Komaeda to work with. All you have to do is blame/use his "luck" when you're in a writing bind! xD |
Aug 4, 2016 12:34 PM
#56
Pooyan22 said: taynis said: Pooyan22 said: Kimura was in a hurry, so you could "excuse" her rushing off. However, you'd think Komaeda would want to check! Nah, knowing Komaeda, he would never think about checking the bag. If there is something he trusts more than anything else is his talent, his luck. I think the thought that the bags could be switched didn't even crossed his mind XD That's the only "good" excuse, I'd think. Must be nice having a character like Komaeda to work with. All you have to do is blame/use his "luck" when you're in a writing bind! xD Oh well, he is known inside the fandom as the Ultimate Bullshit for a reason xD |
Aug 4, 2016 12:36 PM
#57
Oh just the usual Dr. Hoppers and bomb detonators in my school bag. Komaeda fuck up the world. ;~; I'm kind of torn because: - I like how Future side characters are slowly becoming more coherent through this part of the story, their actions in Future side actually make sense now - but also I am hungry for more focus on the Despair side characters only Well we're still early into this so I won't write that off yet. And there was definitely some questionable things going on here that FragOutFire pointed out earlier, i'm still enjoying this though. |
Aug 4, 2016 12:43 PM
#58
Miaya said: ... At least we know why Ruruka and Seiko are in bad terms in Mirai arc. Seiko seemed so nice, Ruruka was a bitch that's sure... Yeah! Now we know who really is the blame... And gosh, Ruruka is so annoying! She is upset that Seiko won't taste her sweets, but she is okay with freaking guilt tripping her to do what she wants!? Seiko should have said "no" -3- She was so sweet!! That goofy happy face she made when Komaeda said her medicine worked!! |
BubblyHunterAug 4, 2016 1:00 PM
Aug 4, 2016 12:46 PM
#59
Finally, we got some backstory on Ruruka and Seiko. Perhaps Seiko's talent isn't being a pharmacist but rather being extremely unlucky! :) |
Wander_WolfAug 4, 2016 1:26 PM
Aug 4, 2016 12:48 PM
#60
Nice episode was kinda normal tough but a good one. |
Aug 4, 2016 12:48 PM
#61
taynis said: Pooyan22 said: taynis said: Pooyan22 said: Kimura was in a hurry, so you could "excuse" her rushing off. However, you'd think Komaeda would want to check! Nah, knowing Komaeda, he would never think about checking the bag. If there is something he trusts more than anything else is his talent, his luck. I think the thought that the bags could be switched didn't even crossed his mind XD That's the only "good" excuse, I'd think. Must be nice having a character like Komaeda to work with. All you have to do is blame/use his "luck" when you're in a writing bind! xD Oh well, he is known inside the fandom as the Ultimate Bullshit for a reason xD That's right. On the bright side, you can't fault Komaeda for being uninteresting! =) |
Aug 4, 2016 1:03 PM
#62
this episode in one sentence: Komaeda's bullshit power strikes again! |
Aug 4, 2016 1:05 PM
#63
Ulquiorra said: I hate Ruruka, why didn't she die in that explosion. We can still hope it happens in Mirai.... (¬‿¬) Although it's probably not that likely. |
Aug 4, 2016 1:07 PM
#64
Komaeda be like: I'm the Ultimate Bullshit! |
You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
Aug 4, 2016 1:11 PM
#65
FragOutFire said: Nayrael said: FragOutFire said: the twilight syndrome murder case has no relevance to the plot at all. The murder is what started this whole mess: ... i guess the class was kind of gloomy about their friends getting murdered for 30 seconds. it's definitely not a big a deal as much as, nagito blowing up a building, or bizarrely, not as important as a science fair cupcake... Nagito caused all that with his luck. The only thing he has confidence in; remember he didn't even hesitated with the Russian roulette. And the reason he did that was because everyone was kinda depressed with the murdered that happen, aka Twilight Syndrome Murder. So I don't thins that reaching too much into it. Cool theory about scout dude being a traitor though (-.-)b |
Aug 4, 2016 1:12 PM
#66
That was vintage Komaeda all around. Not disappointed. Man, things sure got dark in a hurry after Twilight Syndrome. |
Aug 4, 2016 1:39 PM
#67
FragOutFire said: But the worst thing is: the twilight syndrome murder case has no relevance to the plot at all. We get Kuzuryuu whose sister died, and he committed a murder himself in a span of maybe a week, now looking sad because of Yukizome leaving? How does that have any sense? Maybe it's because I find her too annoying, so I can't realise it, but no matter how much you like a professor you wouldn't care if you were in a position like Kuzuryuu or Pekoyama after the TSMC. They, as well as Koizumi looked completely unphased. Also, there was no reason to expel Isayoi. Actually, the whole matter bearly made any sense. I really tought something serious happened from the way they acted in Mirai-hen. Well, anyway we got a lot of Komaeda ruining other people's lifes and his famous monologue from the game, so I guess I can live with this episode (not a huge fan of his though). Too bad we didn't see Kamukura, but I hope something serious starts happening from the next episode... |
Noir… It is the name of an ancient fate. Two sisters who watch anime. The peace of the newly born, their black hands protect. |
Aug 4, 2016 1:41 PM
#68
Komaeda strikes again... Damn, Seiko is so cute : ] |
Men are props on the stage of life, and no matter how tender, how exquisite… A lie will remain a lie. |
Aug 4, 2016 1:46 PM
#69
FragOutFire said: why did nagito use a real bomb instead just the threat of a bomb? Everyone made horrible decisions, most of all Nagito. Everyone was passing around the idiot ball. Specimen021 said: Oh? Oh... So Nagito was ALWAYS this fucked up? Good to know, I thought it was because of the despair simulation thing, but nope, he's just evil. Okay. I was also surprised and wondered why Komaeda would do such actions...when he didn't even meet Junko yet, but we forget that he did the same exact thing in SDR2 when he technically 'planned' on murdering someone in the name of hope. Komaeda was not always like this, he was, however I would assume like this for a good portion of his life. Ofc, we can joke around and blame things on him...cause, technically Komaeda is responsible, but he had the intention of not backing down in trying to post-pone the exams. He used a bomb, because he was completely serious and right about how nothing he could reasonably do what actually post-pone the exam. Thus, the bomb plan happened. Also, Komaeda doesn't really consciously rely on his luck, it only just happens to him. Everything just happens to work for him in his favor. However, if someone honestly (for some reason...even though he's a fictional character lol) hates Komaeda to the core, I think you're forgetting that his bizarre actions and thoughts are completely skewed with reason. He wanted to post-pone his test since his classmates were down and wanted them to shine taking the exams to their full potential.A rather 'selfless' objective, yet completely selfish in the way he wanted his objective to be done. He also technically 'sacrificed himself' or at least planned on that to carry out the plan. Yet...he also took many other people down who got involved. He's not quite 'all there' in his head... We learn from SDR2 that he was diagnosed with lymphoma + frontotemporal lobe dementia It's really painful rather than infuriating to watch the suffering in his mind play out through his actions like this. It really pains my heart since he wants to help everyone for the good, but the concepts of hope and despair are interchanging in his head and mixed up. Chisa told him there is no such thing as hope where people get hurt like that, but Komaeda doesn't understand. He can't understand. Makes me wonder...will he ever be able to understand? |
Aug 4, 2016 1:55 PM
#70
Aug 4, 2016 2:01 PM
#71
This is a guy who, at one point of his life, cut off a good part of his forearm, so he could attach the hand of the girl, who pretty much destroyed the world, to his neon pink bleeding stump. I'm having doubts, is what I'm saying. But hating Komaeda, no, he's a bit too adorably messed up for that. I know you wanted your post to be taken more seriously, and it is serious, and props for that, but personally, I can't help but joke about Nagito. He is a walking disaster and it never stops being hilarious. Well, minus the scene with future-ish Hinata in SDR, that was a bit more dark. In a pleasant way. |
Aug 4, 2016 2:02 PM
#72
He's so cute, why won't blacksmith be my dog~ Anyway this episode was great all around, but I was uber irritated at the big "conflict" between those 3 chars. The whole laxative mixup could've easily been tided over if Seiko just talked about bumping into Komaeda, hell Ruruka and Sonosuke should've realized it was Komaeda who duped them since she specifically said, he's the one here for the laxatives. Anyway that minor setback aisde, seeing the reason for their expulsion is nice. Hopefully Izuru and Junko show up soon though, my daily dosage of despair is seriously low |
Aug 4, 2016 2:28 PM
#73
Specimen021 said: This is a guy who, at one point of his life, cut off a good part of his forearm, so he could attach the hand of the girl, who pretty much destroyed the world, to his neon pink bleeding stump. I'm having doubts, is what I'm saying. But hating Komaeda, no, he's a bit too adorably messed up for that. I know you wanted your post to be taken more seriously, and it is serious, and props for that, but personally, I can't help but joke about Nagito. He is a walking disaster and it never stops being hilarious. Well, minus the scene with future-ish Hinata in SDR, that was a bit more dark. In a pleasant way.[ LOL no it's fine, it's perfectly understanable. I get you. I mean, I was thinking of some reason or sound explanation as to why anyone in their right mind would attach a corpse's hand to replace their own like that...but honestly there's no reason. It is true that almost everything he does and says is...questionable, and he seems beyond the point of 'saving', yet I would argue that despite his actions there is some part of his genuine understanding of hope left in his mind (very...very...small fragment). I would argue that he was deeply infatuated with Junko, and like everyone else fell into deeper despair, yettt Komaeda's a bit different. I'm not exactly sure what everyone's 'motives' were for following Junko, but I'm guessing it might have looked different for every person and they might've actually been 'brainwashed'. Komaeda, however, joined because he wanted to join Ultimate Despair to see there be so much destruction in order to witness the glorious 'hope' born from all that...or at least...that's how he describes it. So, he both loved Junko for creating this opportunity, yet at the same time hated her for taking things for turn in the worse direction (opposite of direction he wants to see which is 'hope'). In the game I would say he sort of showed that he has some good 'judgement' left. There is still sound reason left in him, if not a little bit. how he set up his "murder" fully believing that his actions will become the foundation of world's hope...and it actually kind of makes sense. He tried to destroy all the Ultimate Despair and have the true "hope" live on. Sort of makes sense to someone even with a stable mind. This gives me a little hope that outside the simulation, he can actually make some sense. But you're definitelyyy right about him being crazy!! That has become part of him, and it's a trademark characteristic of him, and it's like you said very entertaining. I tend to take him quite seriously, since even in SDR2 all he really just wanted to be was understood by others, I believe. He's constantly misunderstood cause his justifications are just...messed up like him, lol but in some free time events you can tell he's been through so much pain and he's in so much pain. It's not like he's unaware of how his talent causes him such tragedy, or how he's controlled by his illness, so he's suffering every day. But honestly he was created for the purpose of being confusing, complex, but most of all a sort of brand new interesting, entertaining character so I definitely agree with you on him being hilarious. He never fails to amuse me + he brings a smile to my face ^^ |
EarlCielAug 4, 2016 2:40 PM
Aug 4, 2016 2:40 PM
#74
Ramkec said: Man Ruruka is such a bitch and fuck that coat guy following her around, Special Blacksmith, what kinda title is that. I feel for the Pharmacist girl no wonder she wants to kill Ruruka in the future arc. That lucky student is hilarious I hope he returns later on. She has her motives for being a bitch after she tought that Seiko made this to her test. But in fact, they're just a victim and don't do anything wrong |
Aug 4, 2016 2:55 PM
#75
Bless that Monaca avatar. |
Aug 4, 2016 2:58 PM
#76
EarlCiel said: Also, Komaeda doesn't really consciously rely on his luck, it only just happens to him. Everything just happens to work for him in his favor. Well, not always. But, he consciously rely on it in the fifth chapter of the game. The murder case was totally based on his luck, that was how we got to solve it. In one of his free time events he even says that for him good luck is the greatest power (or something like that). But, I do get what you are saying. It is like he doesn't "really care about what he is doing" (oh man, I don't know how to put that in better words, sorry, English is not my first language xD) since things will work out in the end. But, I think Komaeda's behavior can be partly blamed on his insane cycle of good luck/bad luck. He gets his good luck at cost of bad luck. I remember in one of his events on island mode he says he is experiencing so much luck that it would not surprise him if one or two people he knew had died. I guess, it is a complicated talent. And, I think he has a chance of being rehabilitated. His ending on island mode gave me that hope (lol, but seriously). I think Komaeda is a really interesting character tho. He is neither the totally insane evil psychopath or the angelic cinnamon roll, so it is really cool to see what he is going to do and why (and how, because oh boy he is smart) :) |
Aug 4, 2016 3:14 PM
#77
First thing in my head after episode: Wtf Komaeda. I think that's pretty much the summary of the episode Btw, was "The Melancholy, Surprise and Disappearance of Nagito Komaeda'' a reference to Haruhi Suzumiya? Hey, I think I figured out how Nagito's luck works! He just takes it and brings rampage to everyone around him... Or something.. I really did love that Maizono was in it (and I wanna know how it's gonna be with the teacher (forgot name again) in the reserve course! Omg Nagito |
Aug 4, 2016 3:16 PM
#78
taynis said: Well, not always. But, he consciously rely on it in the fifth chapter of the game. The murder case was totally based on his luck, that was how we got to solve it. In one of his free time events he even says that for him good luck is the greatest power (or something like that). But, I do get what you are saying. It is like he doesn't "really care about what he is doing" (oh man, I don't know how to put that in better words, sorry, English is not my first language xD) since things will work out in the end. Yup, for sure! He can definitely use his luck to his advantage, sorry I didn't specify, I meant for in this particular episode xD. He totally had it all planned out but ended up getting away with a suspension instead of expulsion due to his luck. We can't also forget during the first murder in SDR2 when he got lucky when they pulled sticks and got a chance to plan out his attempted murder, haha. But his murder trial that you mentioned was byy farrr the best mention of him using his luck to his advantage + the crazy russian roulette scene! Like it was mentioned in this episode...Komaeda's luck sure is scary o__o taynis said: But, I think Komaeda's behavior can be partly blamed on his insane cycle of good luck/bad luck. He gets his good luck at cost of bad luck. I remember in one of his events on island mode he says he is experiencing so much luck that it would not surprise him if one or two people he knew had died. I guess, it is a complicated talent. And, I think he has a chance of being rehabilitated. His ending on island mode gave me that hope (lol, but seriously). I think Komaeda is a really interesting character tho. He is neither the totally insane evil psychopath or the angelic cinnamon roll, so it is really cool to see what he is going to do and why (and how, because oh boy he is smart) :) I agree, definitely! His behaviour for sure is dictated by how much suffering he's reaped and sowed from his talent. It's just like you explained it! This, I think is the reason he's so infatuated with the idea of hope. How despite the circumstances, good or bad, when there's hope it seems to shine through and eliminate all the bad. Harvesting this hope completely changes the situation, and almost gives you the power + strength to surpass anything. There is power in believing! He's so used to this constant back and forth that something so good, so constant basically turns makes him hopesexual LOL. Basically suuuper obsessed! I think, though, his lack of judgement, crazy thoughts, contradicting beliefs + actions are mainly in part because of his dementia where his brain is literally breaking down because his brain cells are damaged. Which is something he can't control, kindd of like his luck. I mean he can control it, but often time's it's quite unpredictable. That's why I feel like he does stuff like this in the episode (bombing so the school will listen to him) or even planning the first murder to have something happen ('have hope be born from despair') in an attempt to control things. You can argue that his 'suicide' was also the same where he planned it so that everyone would get killed. I also would like to hope he has a chance of being rehabilitated...however, whether or not he will live long is probably unknown because of his cancer. T___T But if he could just find peace (cough aka pls let there be the hope he's looking for) I think he would live very happily. Also, alsoo I'm glad that you really like Komaeda, too! The way you describe him is how I see him too, haha I really enjoy it whenever he gets showtime + love his character! ^^ |
EarlCielAug 4, 2016 3:21 PM
Aug 4, 2016 3:22 PM
#79
JDiraz said: I already know Nagito is shit. But damn, they just keep on giving me reasons to hate him. Haha me 2. I'm even hating him more every single episode. ;-) |
Aug 4, 2016 3:56 PM
#80
No Matter what Komeada pulls its absolutely insane, but Kodaka can't top ch 5 in SDR2 |
Aug 4, 2016 3:57 PM
#81
I feel bad for Seiko, things really got out of hand for her. I understand her anger in the future side better now. |
Celes52Aug 4, 2016 4:02 PM
Aug 4, 2016 3:58 PM
#82
It's getting good ;) Izuru inc. Now to wait for the next episode, oh the despair ;( |
Aug 4, 2016 4:01 PM
#83
tsubasalover said: There's a special testing for those with special abilities... Narcissist / lucky guy is acting on something as he doesn't seem to want to take it. Oh those three that fought each other over betrayal in Mirai-hen are "senpai" to the main class in Zetsubou-hen. So the lucky guy got two medicines and bags mixed up. Lucky guy got the bomb and bag switched... snack, too... That results in three students to get out of school, and teacher got switched class to teach and lucky guy got detention (?), too. since you seem to not know Komeada that well ill drop this here http://dangan-ronpa.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Dangan_Ronpa_2?file=SDR2_icon.jpg but i would rather you play the game on Steam and PS Vita |
Aug 4, 2016 4:11 PM
#84
Aug 4, 2016 4:21 PM
#85
After watching this episode my hate towards Nagito has intensified A LOT. I already hated him during and after the events of the game, but now... I can't help hating him even more. So, now it's clear what happened between Seiko and Ando-Izayoi and guess what, it's Nagito's fault... but I don't know, something's strange about all this situation, I get the feeling everything was easily avoidable, I'm not sure if it's just an oversight or actually intended... Another fact is that, in the game (if I recall correctly, prove me wrong if I am), the Twilight Syndrome Murder Case it's shown as a very important part of the events concerning the class and in this show it isn't for nothing, it happened so fast that seemed like it was no important at all. Maybe it's not important as I thought and it's just the event triggering some heavy disorders in the school. I don't know, we'll see I guess. Chisa said a very strong line when speaking with Nagito, a line that I wish someone will tell to Munakata in the future-arc sooooo bad. "There is no such thing as hope that hurts others." She's a so adorable person, what a shame everything she hopes for isn't going to happen in the future x.x In the end, so far this show is not showing what I expected to see. I had much more interest in this than the future-arc in the beginning but now, after 4 episodes of both, I ended up being more interested in Mirai-hen than Zetsubou-hen. In 4 episodes not much happened and even though the little things showed are all interested, I think the show could be better. I'm looking forward for the next episode, hoping to see something really interesting. |
Aug 4, 2016 4:32 PM
#86
EarlCiel said: FragOutFire said: why did nagito use a real bomb instead just the threat of a bomb? Everyone made horrible decisions, most of all Nagito. Everyone was passing around the idiot ball. Specimen021 said: Oh? Oh... So Nagito was ALWAYS this fucked up? Good to know, I thought it was because of the despair simulation thing, but nope, he's just evil. Okay. I was also surprised and wondered why Komaeda would do such actions...when he didn't even meet Junko yet, but we forget that he did the same exact thing in SDR2 when he technically 'planned' on murdering someone in the name of hope. Komaeda was not always like this, he was, however I would assume like this for a good portion of his life. Characters in SDR2 had their memory erased since the beginning of the school (so it's even before this anime starts) so yeah, Komaeda being crazy should've nothing to do with Junko. |
Aug 4, 2016 4:56 PM
#87
Lol, the episode title. Really liking how this one is connecting with the other Danganronpa 3 anime. Looks like he the cause of more than 1 problem in that series too. |
Aug 4, 2016 4:59 PM
#88
I hate Ruruka, even if it wasn't Seiko's fault... Komaeda being Komaeda as always, and his luck giving problems to everyone but him. I like how they connected this episode with the other Danganronpa anime. |
Aug 4, 2016 5:16 PM
#89
So like... what was Nagito trying to do with a bottle of super-laxatives and enough explosives to level a gym? |
BumperBoAug 4, 2016 5:24 PM
Aug 4, 2016 5:16 PM
#90
So, Komaeda causes the rupture in the friendship. lol And, you guys hate Ruruka because she thought that her friend betrayed her? lol I don't understand the argument. If we are in her place, we probably have the same reaction towards Seiko. Seiko, Ruruka and the guy are victim in the scheme. |
Aug 4, 2016 5:25 PM
#91
caio_ken said: Well I mean she did blackmail her "friend" in to giving her performance enhancing drugs in order to do well at her exam. Hardly counts as being the victim. So, Komaeda causes the rupture in the friendship. lol And, you guys hate Ruruka because she thought that her friend betrayed her? lol I don't understand the argument. If we are in her place, we probably have the same reaction towards Seiko. Seiko, Ruruka and the guy are victim in the scheme. The only one without any fault in the entire thing is the blacksmith. |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Aug 4, 2016 5:26 PM
#92
caio_ken said: And, you guys hate Ruruka because she thought that her friend betrayed her? lol I don't understand the argument. If we are in her place, we probably have the same reaction towards Seiko. It's her attitude and the way she treats Seiko as her 'childhood friend.' The cutsey girl who tries take advantage of everything she can and wants. Ruruka isn't on my hate list yet but she's definitely below the neutral list because of her attitude. And from what I can see, she's been pushing stuff on Seiko and asking for 'favors' since they were children. To some degree, I feel like she only got her title because of relying on Seiko. |
Aug 4, 2016 5:45 PM
#93
Very Good episode I freaking hate Nagito Komaeda I already hate him so much before this I am happy he suspend stupid prick. I feel sorry Seiko,Ruruka and Izayo Man where is Hajime want to see him again. |
DemonDarknightAug 4, 2016 5:48 PM
Aug 4, 2016 5:50 PM
#94
caio_ken said: So, Komaeda causes the rupture in the friendship. lol And, you guys hate Ruruka because she thought that her friend betrayed her? lol I don't understand the argument. If we are in her place, we probably have the same reaction towards Seiko. Seiko, Ruruka and the guy are victim in the scheme. Well lets supposed Ruruka had just used her own skills. That is if she has any since she has probably been taking things from Seiko since they were kids, so there is even a chance she is a phony. Or if she had actually listened to Seiko when she told her "no," none of that would have happened~ So yeah, it's all Ruruka's fault actually. She has no right to act like a victim. Seiko is a victim from Ruruka's manipulative attitude and the guy is a passerby for getting involved with her. If Ruruka hadn't asked for the medicine, Seiko would not ended up with Komaeda's bag. She bumped into him 'cause Ruruka took her medicine and she was late making a new batch! So she would have noticed that Komaeda took the wrong medecine, could have tried getting it back or actually new that he had the wrong stuff when they bumped and they would have checked their bags! Problems solved. Things would have gone somehow in Komaeda's favor, but all that matters is that Seiko wouldn't have to deal with it like she did. Also on a note: the reason I dislike Ruruka so much is her rotten attitude and how entitled she feels to getting things her way. |
Aug 4, 2016 5:52 PM
#95
Suzune-chan said: caio_ken said: Well I mean she did blackmail her "friend" in to giving her performance enhancing drugs in order to do well at her exam. Hardly counts as being the victim. So, Komaeda causes the rupture in the friendship. lol And, you guys hate Ruruka because she thought that her friend betrayed her? lol I don't understand the argument. If we are in her place, we probably have the same reaction towards Seiko. Seiko, Ruruka and the guy are victim in the scheme. The only one without any fault in the entire thing is the blacksmith. Well, I say that she is a victim because she, Seiko and the guy did nothing, it was all Komaeda's fault. |
Aug 4, 2016 5:57 PM
#96
BubblyHunter said: caio_ken said: So, Komaeda causes the rupture in the friendship. lol And, you guys hate Ruruka because she thought that her friend betrayed her? lol I don't understand the argument. If we are in her place, we probably have the same reaction towards Seiko. Seiko, Ruruka and the guy are victim in the scheme. Well lets supposed Ruruka had just used her own skills. That is if she has any since she has probably been taking things from Seiko since they were kids, so there is even a chance she is a phony. Or if she had actually listened to Seiko when she told her "no," none of that would have happened~ So yeah, it's all Ruruka's fault actually. She has no right to act like a victim. Seiko is a victim from Ruruka's manipulative attitude and the guy is a passerby for getting involved with her. If Ruruka hadn't asked for the medicine, Seiko would not ended up with Komaeda's bag. She bumped into him 'cause Ruruka took her medicine and she was late making a new batch! So she would have noticed that Komaeda took the wrong medecine, could have tried getting it back or actually new that he had the wrong stuff when they bumped and they would have checked their bags! Problems solved. Things would have gone somehow in Komaeda's favor, but all that matters is that Seiko wouldn't have to deal with it like she did. Also on a note: the reason I dislike Ruruka so much is her rotten attitude and how entitled she feels to getting things her way. If we go with your argument, so Seiko's also a culprit because she leaves Nagito alone with her medicines and he grab the wrong bottle. And because of this, Ruruka also grab the wrong bottle. So in the final, only the blacksmith is a victim. |
Aug 4, 2016 5:58 PM
#97
BumperBo said: So like... what was Nagito trying to do with a bottle of super-laxatives and enough explosives to level a gym? The same thing that happened in the episode Pooyan22 said: 1) It seemed like she did label them, but she didn't label them as what they'd be referred to as by the layman (which is strange, considering she customised them for Komaeda and Andou, to my recollection). Komaeda appeared to be listening when Kimura was talking about it being a "reactivator". But given Andou's attitude when Kimura was talking about the "reanimator", one could say Andou wasn't really paying attention. But again, Komaeda was, so.. Nah, it was Nagito's fault He fell and ended up catching the two drugs, he forgot what was the one he was supposed to get and relied on his luck Pooyan22 said: Yeah, what was the point in Kizakura getting punished other than to advance the plot in the desired direction? Was Jin seriously expecting Kizakura to be able to predict the actions of every single student scouted? The only "excuse" I can think of is how Komaeda appears to have been "loony" from the start, so Kizakura should have "known better"... >=S Please, pay more attention when watching the episode Kizakura was punished because he is the actual homeroom teacher of class 1-B, technically they are his responsibility |
Aug 4, 2016 6:00 PM
#98
caio_ken said: BubblyHunter said: caio_ken said: So, Komaeda causes the rupture in the friendship. lol And, you guys hate Ruruka because she thought that her friend betrayed her? lol I don't understand the argument. If we are in her place, we probably have the same reaction towards Seiko. Seiko, Ruruka and the guy are victim in the scheme. Well lets supposed Ruruka had just used her own skills. That is if she has any since she has probably been taking things from Seiko since they were kids, so there is even a chance she is a phony. Or if she had actually listened to Seiko when she told her "no," none of that would have happened~ So yeah, it's all Ruruka's fault actually. She has no right to act like a victim. Seiko is a victim from Ruruka's manipulative attitude and the guy is a passerby for getting involved with her. If Ruruka hadn't asked for the medicine, Seiko would not ended up with Komaeda's bag. She bumped into him 'cause Ruruka took her medicine and she was late making a new batch! So she would have noticed that Komaeda took the wrong medecine, could have tried getting it back or actually new that he had the wrong stuff when they bumped and they would have checked their bags! Problems solved. Things would have gone somehow in Komaeda's favor, but all that matters is that Seiko wouldn't have to deal with it like she did. Also on a note: the reason I dislike Ruruka so much is her rotten attitude and how entitled she feels to getting things her way. If we go with your argument, so Seiko's also a culprit because she leaves Nagito alone with her medicines and he grab the wrong bottle. And because of this, Ruruka also grab the wrong bottle. So in the final, only the blacksmith is a victim. Nagito's the only one to blame here,S eiko told Nagito what bottle he was supposed to get but he fell and in the process ended up getting the two bottles, he relied on his luck to decide which one he would get and this screwed things over He was also the one who set the bomb there and the bomb thing was what actually expelled Seiko, Andou and Izayoi |
Aug 4, 2016 6:13 PM
#99
caio_ken said: If we go with your argument, so Seiko's also a culprit because she leaves Nagito alone with her medicines and he grab the wrong bottle. And because of this, Ruruka also grab the wrong bottle. So in the final, only the blacksmith is a victim. She only left him alone and didn't realize he took the wrong item 'cause a certain someone was nagging and bitching at her to open the door and do things their way~ Also, why did Ruruka need the medicine for? If she had talent she wouldn't need what Seiko was working to present for her test. Do friends take their friends work just because? No they don't. Ruruka rotten attitude confirmed. If she hadn't meddled things could have been avoided. Which is my main argument in case you haven't noticed. Nagito, Ruruka and Seiko are to blame for the disaster that ended up happened at the test. The other dude is just passerby, he choose to hang out with the wrong people, or he has bad taste. Whatever you wanna call it. His expulsion was unfair. |
Aug 4, 2016 6:29 PM
#100
BubblyHunter said: caio_ken said: If we go with your argument, so Seiko's also a culprit because she leaves Nagito alone with her medicines and he grab the wrong bottle. And because of this, Ruruka also grab the wrong bottle. So in the final, only the blacksmith is a victim. She only left him alone and didn't realize he took the wrong item 'cause a certain someone was nagging and bitching at her to open the door and do things their way~ Also, why did Ruruka need the medicine for? If she had talent she wouldn't need what Seiko was working to present for her test. Do friends take their friends work just because? No they don't. Ruruka rotten attitude confirmed. If she hadn't meddled things could have been avoided. Which is my main argument in case you haven't noticed. Nagito, Ruruka and Seiko are to blame for the disaster that ended up happened at the test. The other dude is just passerby, he choose to hang out with the wrong people, or he has bad taste. Whatever you wanna call it. His expulsion was unfair. Yeah really. I can see how Seiko got ballsed up by luck quite a bit, but really the incident was in large part thanks to her negligence. Handing out powerful drugs to the people without even checking once if they got the right stuff. Grabbing a random school bag and going back about her business with it without even looking to see if it's hers. I like Seiko, but she spaced on some really important stuff. Sonosuke had nothing to do with anything though. He was like... physically near some of the people involved... I guess. |
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