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Jun 20, 2015 9:53 AM

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FireEmblemIke24 said:
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I have a feeling the show's score will fall after this episode.


fate zero fans will probably be flipping

They wanted a ginger to beat Gil and they got one :D
Jun 20, 2015 10:01 AM

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Guilek said:
FireEmblemIke24 said:


fate zero fans will probably be flipping

They wanted a ginger to beat Gil and they got one :D


former-ginger and I'm still waiting to download the episode once it appears on the site I use :O
All credit goes to Sacred.
Jun 20, 2015 10:02 AM
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Good episode after a tedious 2nd half of the season.

I don't think this is as good as it could've been 7/10ish---yes the production values are good but I feel it stopped being fun at some point. The first half was OUTSTANDING though.

Anyway, it stopped being fun due to:

1. Uneven pacing. Some things seem to happen suddenly or out of nowhere while others are really really drilled in (e.g. like Berserker going down like a bitch in 2 minutes while Archer lectures Shirou for 3 episodes).

2. It's also hard to enjoy the anime in the community because everything gets bogged down in visual novel stuff--I appreciate what the mods have done trying to banish that from the episode threads it's helped a lot. But you can't just enjoy the anime or debate it without being slapped down by someone who knows better lambasting you for not being familiar with the VN.

For me a 8+ animes have to be either very gripping (Fate/Zero, Steins Gate) or fuuuuuunnn (Haruhi, Baccano).
Jun 20, 2015 10:04 AM

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Dragon_Slayer_X said:
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DEENING.

Shirou bashing away gil's swords with swords in his hands instead of matching them by swordraining the same ones to cancel them out.

The funny thing is that he does it like once or twice at the start and then NOPE LETS SURF ON RHO AIUS.


Oh well it could have been worse..............like Seiba finishing shit instead of ginger boy.

Unlimited MiuraSFX Works is finally going to end at least.

Btw is True End really confirmed or Miura is just going to troll everyone with GE or Miura Special End?


TBH what we got (Gil seemingly beating Shirou) was worse than that.
Jun 20, 2015 10:05 AM

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xShigarakix said:
wow one the most hyped fight got butcherd hard, the point that shirou won was because UBW is faster but here he just deflect all swords by hand

He did use some swordrains along with deflecting swords with his hands, he was doing both.

I'm glad gil use GOB from all directions at one point like against Berserk.
Jun 20, 2015 10:07 AM

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Guilek said:
xShigarakix said:
wow one the most hyped fight got butcherd hard, the point that shirou won was because UBW is faster but here he just deflect all swords by hand

He did use some swordrains along with deflecting swords with his hands, he was doing both.

I'm glad gil use GOB from all directions at one point like against Berserk.


No he did swordspam TWICE at start and then DEENED it which made Gil look dumb as all hell. It should have been going on ALL THE TIME while they are clashing. Not enough melee fight too.
Jun 20, 2015 10:10 AM

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CookingPriest said:
Guilek said:

He did use some swordrains along with deflecting swords with his hands, he was doing both.

I'm glad gil use GOB from all directions at one point like against Berserk.


No he did swordspam TWICE at start and then DEENED it which made Gil look dumb as all hell. It should have been going on ALL THE TIME while they are clashing. Not enough melee fight too.

He did more than twice.
Jun 20, 2015 10:13 AM

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Guilek said:
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No he did swordspam TWICE at start and then DEENED it which made Gil look dumb as all hell. It should have been going on ALL THE TIME while they are clashing. Not enough melee fight too.

He did more than twice.


No he did not.

He deflected at the start.
Then he did it again.
And then proceeded to DEEN it with swords at his hands instead.
Again it should be going on ALL THE TIME. Shirou stands absolutely ZERO chance against GOB fire if he did not cancel it out.

Anime made it look like Shirou has better attack skills than Berserker and it is not clear that he won through pure tactics and not strength. Hell it is not clear that he won.
Jun 20, 2015 10:18 AM

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Oh how cute.
Jun 20, 2015 10:19 AM

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More or less
One at 8:19
one waves at 15:00
Another waves just after
One other waves at 16:00
Jun 20, 2015 10:20 AM

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FireEmblemIke24 said:
Guilek said:

They wanted a ginger to beat Gil and they got one :D


former-ginger and I'm still waiting to download the episode once it appears on the site I use :O


Nah, he's forever a ginger.
Jun 20, 2015 10:27 AM
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This fight <3
EMIYA Remix in my veins!!!
Jun 20, 2015 10:28 AM

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Sword of Promised Victory remix sounded awesome btw..
Jun 20, 2015 10:32 AM

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laidellent said:
Sword of Promised Victory remix sounded awesome btw..


Its decent but just like Emiya, does not beat the original and certainly does not beat prillya version.
Jun 20, 2015 10:36 AM
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So... is there a reason as to why this show is rated lower than F/Z?
Wanted to start watching SE2 (already know what happens in it) but the ratings seem rather weird - did something happen? I recall people being quite hyped few months ago.
Jun 20, 2015 10:37 AM

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CookingPriest said:
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Sword of Promised Victory remix sounded awesome btw..


Its decent but just like Emiya, does not beat the original and certainly does not beat prillya version.


Well,lets hear the full version first Fai,it only played for....bout 25 seconds(?)

N2P1 said:
So... is there a reason as to why this show is rated lower than F/Z?
Wanted to start watching SE2 (already know what happens in it) but the ratings seem rather weird - did something happen? I recall people being quite hyped few months ago.


awkward pacing and some changes which were not required...mainly directorial problems...so some fans aren't so "happy" about it..
Jun 20, 2015 10:38 AM

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N2P1 said:
So... is there a reason as to why this show is rated lower than F/Z?
Wanted to start watching SE2 (already know what happens in it) but the ratings seem rather weird - did something happen? I recall people being quite hyped few months ago.


butcherd characters
butcherd fights
anime orginal filler shit
rushed
Jun 20, 2015 10:39 AM
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N2P1 said:
So... is there a reason as to why this show is rated lower than F/Z?
Wanted to start watching SE2 (already know what happens in it) but the ratings seem rather weird - did something happen? I recall people being quite hyped few months ago.


Because F/Z is better
and because Ufo fucked up according to some VN readers
Jun 20, 2015 10:40 AM

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laidellent said:
CookingPriest said:


Its decent but just like Emiya, does not beat the original and certainly does not beat prillya version.


Well,lets hear the full version first Fai,it only played for....bout 25 seconds(?)

It's Fai prillya will win 100% of the time in everything.

N2P1 said:
So... is there a reason as to why this show is rated lower than F/Z?
Wanted to start watching SE2 (already know what happens in it) but the ratings seem rather weird - did something happen? I recall people being quite hyped few months ago.

No real reason, you should still watch the show and make your own decision. Ratings are always not that reliable.
Jun 20, 2015 10:43 AM

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At 16:55 they made it looks like Gilgamesh was hesitating to use EA, which is kind of bullshit in this life and death situation. And not like he has enough time to activate the EA's power against Shirou's charge, Ufotable saved his face so hard in this episode.
Jun 20, 2015 10:46 AM
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Wild_Lynx said:
At 16:55 they made it looks like Gilgamesh was hesitating to use EA, which is kind of bullshit in this life and death situation. And not like he has enough time to activate the EA's power against Shirou's charge, Ufotable saved his face so hard in this episode.


As it should be I still find it ridiculous how Shirou managed to defeat him
Jun 20, 2015 10:48 AM

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Wild_Lynx said:
At 16:55 they made it looks like Gilgamesh was hesitating to use EA, which is kind of bullshit in this life and death situation. And not like he has enough time to activate the EA's power against Shirou's charge, Ufotable saved his face so hard in this episode.

No, they didn't. You gotta remember that Gil is egotistical as fuck. Being forced to use Ea against Shirou is as humiliating as admitting defeat, so it makes sense that he'd hesitate.
Jun 20, 2015 10:52 AM

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Here we go......
Jun 20, 2015 10:55 AM

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Oh man,you guys have already watched it ;_;
I'm still waiting for 1 and half hour
Jun 20, 2015 10:55 AM

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astroprogs said:
Wild_Lynx said:
At 16:55 they made it looks like Gilgamesh was hesitating to use EA, which is kind of bullshit in this life and death situation. And not like he has enough time to activate the EA's power against Shirou's charge, Ufotable saved his face so hard in this episode.

No, they didn't. You gotta remember that Gil is egotistical as fuck. Being forced to use Ea against Shirou is as humiliating as admitting defeat, so it makes sense that he'd hesitate.


Maybe some visual novel reader can confirm this ? Did he actually hesitate ?
Jun 20, 2015 10:57 AM

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So the next episode will be the 45 minute one or was it this one haven't watched it yet?

Jun 20, 2015 10:58 AM

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Great episode.
Jun 20, 2015 10:59 AM

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I'd say this is by far the best episode the series has had. Besides the Archer asspull at the end, which apparently was poor in the VN as well, this episode was perfect. Shirou finally had his time to shine and it was glorious.
Big Order (TV):great anime or greatest anime?
Jun 20, 2015 10:59 AM

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CloudStrifeFFVII said:
So the next episode will be the 45 minute one or was it this one haven't watched it yet?
Neither will be double length.
Jun 20, 2015 11:01 AM

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bobzanny said:
I'd say this is by far the best episode the series has had. Besides the Archer asspull at the end, which apparently was poor in the VN as well, this episode was perfect. Shirou finally had his time to shine and it was glorious.


its not a asspull because his core didnt get detroyed remember at EP 12 they even showed assassin core


someone just post the pic when archer got shot by GOB you can clearly see that only 2-3 weapons hit him
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Wild_Lynx said:
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No, they didn't. You gotta remember that Gil is egotistical as fuck. Being forced to use Ea against Shirou is as humiliating as admitting defeat, so it makes sense that he'd hesitate.


Maybe some visual novel reader can confirm this ? Did he actually hesitate ?

I'm a VN reader. Gil didn't even have the time to hesitate in the VN, as it happened so fast.
It makes sense in the anime regardless, though. Gil wouldn't use Ea or Enkidou easily on a lowly human like Shirou.
Jun 20, 2015 11:05 AM
Jun 20, 2015 11:05 AM

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If I had just watched the anime adaption I never would have guessed that Shirou is just an owner and not a wielder.
Jun 20, 2015 11:06 AM

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lol at all the hate. So many 1/5. I thought that episode was fairly decent besides the weird asspulls (why archer is still around??).

People say they didn't show how Shirou's swords are faster than Gil's, I think that's wrong, they showed it from the start. Shirou didn't use range all the time, just when he thought he needed it.
Jun 20, 2015 11:08 AM

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wonder if there is still bugdet for the epilogue :P
bruh
Jun 20, 2015 11:09 AM

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So this is "proper usage" of UBW: summoning swords from the ground.

I see none complains about "wrong mechanic" anymore now. =))
Jun 20, 2015 11:10 AM

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xShigarakix said:
bobzanny said:
I'd say this is by far the best episode the series has had. Besides the Archer asspull at the end, which apparently was poor in the VN as well, this episode was perfect. Shirou finally had his time to shine and it was glorious.


its not a asspull because his core didnt get detroyed remember at EP 12 they even showed assassin core


someone just post the pic when archer got shot by GOB you can clearly see that only 2-3 weapons hit him


Here ya go



see carefully,only one hits him the second time.He either dodged it or Gil has bad aim.
Jun 20, 2015 11:11 AM
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EXCALIBUUUUUUURRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!

Holy fuck that episode was epic from beginning to end

Gil being smug and arrogant as fuck to Saber and Shirou essentially saying goodbye whIle coming to terms with their situation and Shirou FINALLY taking that last leap to become the bad as she truly was

WE GOT THE CHANT......PRAISE TATSUYA WE GOT THE UBW CHANT

Everything about that fight was perfection, Gil showcased why he is a boss and Shirou displayed just how much of a badass he can be....And I also loved how they explained why Shirou won because he is essentially Gil's kryptonite and due to Gil's arrogance he was completely outclassed in that reality marble

Absolutely brilliant.....I dunno why the Brigade Brigade are bitching about Shirou falling.....Even Gil himself admitted that he fucking lost lol, what more do you even need

But to top it all off.....Best boy GARcher came back for one more round and went out in style....That goodbye between Rin, Archer and Saber was nothing short of beautiful

11/10 Art, animation and dat OST was not godly and orasmic proportions
Jun 20, 2015 11:11 AM

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laidellent said:
Here we go......

You knew it was coming. Brace yourself, this is gonna be a long thread.
Jun 20, 2015 11:11 AM

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Sorrow + Sword of Promised Victory made me wish there was a non-DEEN Fate route adaptation. Ah~sadness.

Also, comparisons






Thumbs up!




Dammit, Archer, stop making my heart skip beats. ;_;
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Jun 20, 2015 11:12 AM

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Tokoya said:
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lolno, it's stupid in the VN, ufotable did it better.
Shhhhhh, If you say anything bad about the VN, the hardcore purists will bash you by saying that you don't know what you're talking about and call you an idiot xD


you gotta make sure you don't hurt their feelings, they treasure their porn game very much
Tokoya said:
adapatations are not supposed to be carbon copies of source materials and until the anime community in general can accept that and judge an anime based on what it presents and how they handle every episode, these threads will continue to be filled with hate posts by purists
Jun 20, 2015 11:12 AM

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@Mira: reused frames. =]]
Jun 20, 2015 11:14 AM

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Wild_Lynx said:
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No, they didn't. You gotta remember that Gil is egotistical as fuck. Being forced to use Ea against Shirou is as humiliating as admitting defeat, so it makes sense that he'd hesitate.


Maybe some visual novel reader can confirm this ? Did he actually hesitate ?

Not in the VN, no, but then he was more hard pressed by the time he decided to pull it out.
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Shirou being swag.

They ruined the chant with the subz. D^:

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@Mira: reused frames. =]]


Actually quite different :P
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Jun 20, 2015 11:15 AM
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Very good episode. I had a feeling Archer was alive. They focused on the ground when he supposedly got hit. Saber Excalibur scene was just as good as zero. Gil got headshot lol. Nice goodbye scene was eye candy. I want fate route redone so bad.
Jun 20, 2015 11:16 AM

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hantere said:
Very good episode. I had a feeling Archer was alive. They focused on the ground when he supposedly got hit. Saber Excalibur scene was just as good as zero. Gil got headshot lol. Nice goodbye scene was eye candy. I want fate route redone so bad.


This guy gets it. Y u do dis UFO? TT_TT
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Jun 20, 2015 11:17 AM

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mira-nyan said:

They ruined the chant with the subz. D^:



Utw might fix it..:P
Jun 20, 2015 11:19 AM

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BOOM! Headshot. Anyways pretty good episode imo
Jun 20, 2015 11:20 AM

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mira-nyan said:


Thank-you! I'm gonna overuse the hell outta this gif.
Jun 20, 2015 11:21 AM

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I'll give credit where credit is due. While I still enjoyed this segment in the VN more, this was sooo much better than last episodes segment adaptation. I was very satisfied for the most part with this episode. Almost made me tear recalling.
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