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LittleStar said: Wait a minute... So Hina and Aoba meet each other and lose memories, they will make experiments coupling, they will fail, she will go to future, they later go to past meet high school Aoba, take him to future... he will again go all these events... go back, and over and over again do this?! Or they will change future? Jesus, that's horrifying. I thought the same thing. Doesn't everything just repeat from the time they first met in college to that final mech battle with Bizon? UUUUUGGGHHHHh |
| that end scene with Aoba and Hina bumping each other... don't tell me they'd start the same shit again? anyway I can only hope they;d have a different future this time. I enjoyed this actually. 8/10 |
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| That last scene was good! That was definitely left to show ambiguity on whether the ENTIRE cycle was repeated or not. |
| My head... So, my understanding is the Aoba from right the end is the one that got sent back in time from the destruction of the death star, while the Hina that got sent back went on to where she first disappeared from the first experiments. |
| I wonder if anyone else watched this just to find out what had happen'd to Bizon in the past ? I know I did and ended up hugely disappointed. I have a hard time believe he stayed that pissed for 70 years without anythin' happenin' in the past to occupationally add fuel. |
| Fucking timelines how do they work? |
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| That asspull. This turning out to be a good series was squashed by these two episodes. While they spent nearly all their time explaining shit (kudos) it took all the good action and drama out of it. That said, I can't stand time skip nonsense to this degree. I don't feel any sense of achievement for being able to connect dots that go front back sideways around the corner back again left right back to present...maybe it's present...who knows. Best part is it's a freaking loop and I honestly don't know if it's broken through these events. So even with a full season, if this was the eventual conclusion, it would of been a better ride but still not a satisfying one. |
| Too rushed, this deserved a 2nd season, 2 episodes are nothing, it was all to rushed. |
| Too much confusion with all their timelines, I got the point in big lines, probably because I didn't like it that much and it felt rushed. |
| Average, and not really satisfying. The animations were fairly good, the mecha/character design too, also I appreciated how they tried to explain the solo coupling thing. Too bad they went full retard with the loop thing. 6/10. What would I like? A whole new story with different characters, same coupling concept and same character design. |
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| what was the song used during hina's memory scene? EDIT: nvm, i found it it's "twin bird" by true |
Insanity_GeoOct 1, 2014 7:55 AM
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| Surprisingly, I'm quite satisfied with this ending and the fact that it was only 2 episodes. I understand that some people would have preferred a 12 episodes-long season, but I feel that if it had have been the case, it would have dragged the story a little too much and in the end the conclusion wouldn't have had the same impact. Concerning this conclusion, I can only rejoice that the ending was a happy one this time, because recent mecha anime by Sunrise have had some of the worst endings I've seen (Valvrave is a good exemple in my opinion). With Aoba and Hina going back to their own time, I suppose, or rather I hope, that their future will change and they won't be trapped in another time loop... In any case, I think it's a pretty good conclusion that permits to easily turn the page and keep a pleasant memory of this anime. |
| [spoiler] I gave up on trying to understand what actually happened in this anime long ago, but  |
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| It would have been much better if it were 12 episodes as a second season...It felt too rush. So it is Aoba's and Hina's fate to travel in time over and over again ? :O |
| I believe the main aoba and Hina @ep 2 did not stuck in a endless loop, I'll explain some of the main points I concluded. Hina and aoba got the same brain wave because they are the inventor of the buddy system and guessed they must've used their own brain wave for the data as the root, thus compatible with all others. Theres 4 parallel world lines but 3 of them only starts diverging from the original timeline's future, first of the 3 is where Hina is adopted, 2nd is where Hina is caught by dio in luxon(same world line as season 1 where aoba woke up in luxon), the 3rd is when Hina bought luxon to the past from the 2nd world line(where Hina gets turns into a kid,thus creating the 1st world line), the last is the new worldline created by aoba of ep 2. In the last time warp Hina goes back to her worldline where she first time wrapped in the 1st buddy system, remembers everything, turns and look at aoba with a smile. Aoba on the otherhand goes backs to hes own worldline too, remembering everything, meets Hina later on in college, introduced himself and lied not knowing Hina when she asked if they met before(notice in the flashback of Hina, the aoba there was talking to afew friends instead of being alone when she bumps into him & from hes tone of denying) , created the buddy system again, Hina gets time wrapped to and back again, where the start and end of buddy complex occurs and live happily ever after ^^ (they did not lose their memories since they go back to their original worldline , to make it simpler, Hina goes back to 2nd world line, aoba to new world line.) < I might not be 100% but I think I'm pretty close > |
milkgreenteaOct 1, 2014 9:48 AM
4kicks said: So here's my understanding of what happened, from the true beginning, one giant recap (may have names misspelled, but won't be corrected because this show is pretty forgettable): I still think they could have stretched it out a few more episodes to explain everything above, instead of using cheap flashbacks. Maybe not a full 25, or 12 episodes, but a 6-epsiode OVA series would be better. They could have just animated the flashbacks into full scenes...but I guess they may have wanted to have closure, and all this be over with--something many series don't do, and just die off with a cliffhanger or unanswered questions. Edit: Remember the end card for episode 13 with the black-haired, yellow-eyed guy? He's apparently from the Buddy Complex smart phone game for filthy casuals. There's also a blonde pony-tailed girl that looks like his love interest. So now my question is...was this whole series just a promo for their mobile game? If so, I wouldn't be surprised to see a new pachinko machine next. Thanks for summarizing this really well. Looks like its an open ending - depending on whether Aoba remembered or not. Its a pretty good show, although nothing special. There are questions left unanswered, such as why did Hina de-age and got sent back into a future that is not as distant as Aoba, or the memory of Hina getting out from the experiment pod. 7/10 overall, 6/10 for this OVA. I really enjoyed this series. |
ClawViperOct 1, 2014 12:27 PM
| Would've liked for full 12-13 eps season instead of 2 special eps but whatever. Loved the last minute with Aoba and Hina. |
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| Overall, a very confusing story for me. I need to rewatch this episode again to understand what's going on. 9/10 for the original series and 6/10 for this OVA. Overall a 7 for Buddy Complex franchise, a good/decent story which can have asspulls here and there. |
| I LOVED THE INSERT SONG SO MUCH! (the one where they show their memories). Does someone know where I can get it or when it will be released? Wait... so Aoba and Hina are stuck in this loop all over again? Since they came back to the bumping scene (where everything begins). I don't know if someone explained this but please can someone? |
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milkgreentea said: This makes a lot of sense and wraps everything up nicely, only question is why did we see the last Hina waking up next to adult Aoba post-experiment as a memory? That should be the last thing to "chronologically" happen in the story, there should be no reason for Hina to have woken up there at any point in the loop. She really could only have woken up there at the end(as a result of this last wormhole) so showing it as a memory doesn't add up. I believe the main aoba and Hina @ep 2 did not stuck in a endless loop, I'll explain some of the main points I concluded. Hina and aoba got the same brain wave because they are the inventor of the buddy system and guessed they must've used their own brain wave for the data as the root, thus compatible with all others. Theres 4 parallel world lines but 3 of them only starts diverging from the original timeline's future, first of the 3 is where Hina is adopted, 2nd is where Hina is caught by dio in luxon(same world line as season 1 where aoba woke up in luxon), the 3rd is when Hina bought luxon to the past from the 2nd world line(where Hina gets turns into a kid,thus creating the 1st world line), the last is the new worldline created by aoba of ep 2. In the last time warp Hina goes back to her worldline where she first time wrapped in the 1st buddy system, remembers everything, turns and look at aoba with a smile. Aoba on the otherhand goes backs to hes own worldline too, remembering everything, meets Hina later on in college, introduced himself and lied not knowing Hina when she asked if they met before(notice in the flashback of Hina, the aoba there was talking to afew friends instead of being alone when she bumps into him & from hes tone of denying) , created the buddy system again, Hina gets time wrapped to and back again, where the start and end of buddy complex occurs and live happily ever after ^^ (they did not lose their memories since they go back to their original worldline , to make it simpler, Hina goes back to 2nd world line, aoba to new world line.) < I might not be 100% but I think I'm pretty close > There's also the problem of the worldline's diverging for the both of them. If Hina returned to the lab room of her original timeline, it's with an adult Aoba that doesn't know everything she does. Of course Aoba returns to his original timeline in HS where Hina doesn't know him. Their timeline's are pretty much forever separate now. So he could either live getting to know Hina as they did originally(the reverse of what Hina would have to do upon returning) or he could knowingly go through with the experiments, recreating the scene of him watching her disappear and return, but this time they'll both have complete knowledge of everything that happened to the both of them. That's definitely the best ending(even though it's a little cruel for Aoba to do that), but it does suck that the two that we followed throughout the series don't technically return to each other, or at least that's the case with the Hina we followed(since Aoba will have basically recreated that Hina in his timeline). Yeah, this really could have used that second cour. |
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| I feel like this one got butcher/axed. |
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| So basically. Hina return back to her world. (She literally said "Tadaima" = I'm back/home) Aoba then return to his world. (Aoba knows Hina, but Hina doesn't him) I though this was going to be 12 episode :/ |
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| My only question : When bizon (in the first ep.) arrived in 2014 (the past), why did Aoba's pic show up on his mecha? I thought he attacked the school to kill Hina? Bizon shouldn't have known Aoba back then. |
-Klad- said: That Bizon had gone through basically the same events he did in the series, just like another Aoba had. He attacked Hina the time before. |
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| Kinda rushed ending but it was alright for me. 8/10. So if Aoba and Hina both went to the past again and that became their present then wouldn't that mean that they'd repeat everything that happened? This would mean that they'd be stuck in an endless time loop with their old selves running the coupling experiments and Hina going into the future then to then back to the past to get Aoba. |
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| This anime had good animation and music but I just wish it was a full season. It felt rushed. |
Phoenix1220 said: Kinda rushed ending but it was alright for me. 8/10. So if Aoba and Hina both went to the past again and that became their present then wouldn't that mean that they'd repeat everything that happened? This would mean that they'd be stuck in an endless time loop with their old selves running the coupling experiments and Hina going into the future then to then back to the past to get Aoba. That's what I'm thinking. If they lost their memories what is going to stop them from conducting the experiments and being in that loop forever. |
| I was expecting to be underwhelmed but personally I felt really satisfied with the ending. |
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| i think this one is the real ending, at the end of the flashback: |
Raizo_35 said: Hmm... Have you ever think that Dio must be an adopted child of his current family and his real father is Aoba and Mother is Hina?!... I mean Aoba and Hina were the first ever done the coupling system... and Dio's wave length were the same as Aoba and Hina and because of that they were able to do 3 Coupling without any problems... also it's 70 Years from the future... i don't know the exact age of Dio but it might be possible right?! xD To add we still haven't know what Dio's History since i haven't read the manga... i might be imagining things but i'm just curios about it... xD I doubt Dio is releated to Aoba and Hina. He doesn't have the same wavelength as them. IIRC, all couplers are trained to have the base wavelength, which is Aoba's. But after coupling with Aoba, his wavelength changed. Resulting in him not able to couple with other coupler except for Aoba and people with Aoba's wavelength, Hina. |
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| I just wish there was more, even if it was just a third OVA that expands on the flashbacks instead of just a quick flash of the loop, although I am fairly sure I have it figured out right, but still. Also a bit of Bizon being sent back to the past alone and what happened to him over the 70 years. |
| they could have had a second season on this but i guess they didnt have enough sell? and gave a conclusion unlike most animes... at least we got to see aoba and hina & how they were together and hina's full history, Im pretty sure they're not 70 years in the past and it makes it understandable for them not to be alive when dio and them are around... still say dio is there great grand kid cause thats the only logical reason all thee can buddy up together |
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| > I really think this is why they stupidly changed the rules of time travel and made them forget because they would be like.. Oh No! They could still be alive in this time frame and would know what is going to happen and may give a warning or that. So the writers thought oh we are just stupid idiots we should have put it further into the future.. so let's change the time travel and make it that they forget everything! Like a cheap cop out. Yeah, the writing for that bit is pretty flawed. Hina didn't lose her memories when she went back in time and saved Aoba. Yet they went back in time this time and they both lost their memories. How does that work? |
| @AlexTheRiot As Owa stated about the triple coupling which cause them to see the images of past,present and future, also notice that the images contains flashbacks of different timeworld, not just their current timeline(which explain Hina waking up in one of the images since its from the past of hina's worldline<though it hasn't happen yet chronologically, but if it's the future it shows, it wraps up the reason why it was there>), probably because of sunrise trying to wrapped everything up in 2 episodes >.> |
| AHHHHHHHHHH Its over T______T Dio OMG T__T Aoba and Hina together forever? |
| That clip show pretty much confirms that they wanted to do a full-on second season but just weren't able to. Wasn't too big a fan of the ending, it worked for Code Geass but it seems to forget about the whole time travel bit... |
| The scene where they showed Hina's memories got me.... Man sucks Buddy complex had to flop I really would have loved seeing another season instead of this special still nice 7/10 |
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| Well, that was slightly confusing. |
| This is how I understood it: 1st timeline: -Aoba and Hina were college students, they met, fell in love, and became the pioneer in coupling -Hina got sent to the future where she piloted Luxion -When the (x) wormhole opened up, Hina and Bizon were sent to the 2nd timeline separately -After going through varaious timelines, she went back to Aoba who was waiting for her in the lab 2nd timeline: -Hina met HS Aoba -(y) wormhole appeared with Bizon -Hina saved Aoba and they went to the future -Bizon stayed in the past and established zogilia -Hina was sent earlier in the future as a young girl with no memories -She became a zogilian soldier -Aoba was sent later in the future where he piloted Luxion -(x) wormhole opens up and there are 2 possible scenarios: i. Hina and Bizon go and 2nd timeline repeats ii. only Bizon goes and 2nd timeline continues -Aoba, Hina and Dio fight old Bizon -(z) wormhole opens up -Hina returns to 1st timeline -Aoba returns sometime after (y) wormhole appeared and retained his memories -Aoba eventually becomes a college student and met Hina of that timeline The problem was Bizon; in the time loop, he established zogilia to destroy Aoba (talk about investment). But during the 1st timeline, Hina was his enemy. So how can he do that when he never met Aoba before? |
| That was actually a decent ending, given that they only had two episodes to work with. I rewatched the whole first season before I watched these specials because I'd forgotten the details of the plot... Actually held up pretty well. And knowing the plot of the actual show, it was cool to see the news report at the beginning of the first episode (in Aoba's house) mentioning that Zogilia was mining nectoribium - the importance of which wouldn't make sense until later in the show. Of course, the plot of the specials was a bit rushed (and somewhat silly - how would Bizon have developed a space laser without anyone noticing until it was done?), but the creators did a good job of working with what they had. Bizon's VA was probably my favorite in the show. Aoba was pretty good as a character, too - he dealt with the weird scenario he faced in a believable way, though he had a tendency to get stupid around Hina (though the plot kinda made that necessary for it to end the way it did). For some reason, I always loved listening to the OP and ED. Kind of a rarity when you marathon 13 episodes in a row. I liked the soundtrack in general. Funi's video quality was not great, but that wasn't really surprising. It's a shame the show's over now. I enjoyed it a surprising amount. |
Pie is delicious. |
| I agree with the rush statement, but overall nice ending to the series, i think it could have been better on 12 + episodes of a second season but it was ok. |
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gabriellezala said: This is how I understood it: 1st timeline: -Aoba and Hina were college students, they met, fell in love, and became the pioneer in coupling -Hina got sent to the future where she piloted Luxion -When the (x) wormhole opened up, Hina and Bizon were sent to the 2nd timeline separately -After going through varaious timelines, she went back to Aoba who was waiting for her in the lab 2nd timeline: -Hina met HS Aoba -(y) wormhole appeared with Bizon -Hina saved Aoba and they went to the future -Bizon stayed in the past and established zogilia -Hina was sent earlier in the future as a young girl with no memories -She became a zogilian soldier -Aoba was sent later in the future where he piloted Luxion -(x) wormhole opens up and there are 2 possible scenarios: i. Hina and Bizon go and 2nd timeline repeats ii. only Bizon goes and 2nd timeline continues -Aoba, Hina and Dio fight old Bizon -(z) wormhole opens up -Hina returns to 1st timeline -Aoba returns sometime after (y) wormhole appeared and retained his memories -Aoba eventually becomes a college student and met Hina of that timeline The problem was Bizon; in the time loop, he established zogilia to destroy Aoba (talk about investment). But during the 1st timeline, Hina was his enemy. So how can he do that when he never met Aoba before? Bizon overthrow zogilia later on, he didn't create it, and it was in another world line |
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