A Certain Magical Index (light novel)
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Apr 9, 2019 5:31 AM
#201
TKMike said: Yes.The majority of the audience wasnt paying attention. That is clearly the problem.Elisile said: @Tiau Oh trust me, you've helped me to understand Acqua a little better. But your explanations are not part of the anime itself. So that's why I'm not letting the show off the hook. I think it did a good job of showing Acqua's development AFTER he had already randomly decided to stop pursuing, and actually help, Touma. My complaint is that his actual reason for having his motivation towards Touma change was not explored very well. Your explanations are decent, but the anime itself can't rely on outside people having to explain it. Bolded line triggered me, even though I disliked the show, this bolded statement is not true at all and just you not paying attention to the actual episodes while claiming it's the "shows" fault. Also your statement of 90% of the people on this forum agreeing it to not be higher than a 7 is not true at all. You can actually see the votes on this forum lmao, do the math and you will realise how ignorant you are. |
Apr 9, 2019 5:36 AM
#202
MahiaErebeaNegi said: Tsukumo_Yuuma said: there's a RUMOR that kamachi ( the original creator of the LN ) isn't happy with the anime , the anime was that bad lul . There's also a rumor that Nishikiori himself have no idea what should he do to Index III even when the show started airing lol, that alone just shown that how bad he as a director is. The whole "We have learned our lesson from the failure of Index III" statement is a fucking joke as long as he is still directing Index lol. i think they will most likely change him if there's a 4th season this is from index reddit about the rumor idk if it's true : "Actually true, the one posting it was the Chinese Toaru forum moderator, who was translating the recent anime interview. Its actually Yoshino and Nishikori interview, the bottom line was Nishikori's micromanagement pissed off both of them and the seiyuus. Kamachi insisted on working on certain rewrites to shorten the character wordings, and using various kind of filming technique to visualize the narration, Nishikori turned it down. Nishikori insisted on having Touma stand around not fighting, because he thinks Touma is just a perverted lucky bastard (actual words), Kamachi never offered him any help ever since. Yoshino insisted they can't fit everything in, and certain unnecessary scenes can be removed or have Kamachi do some rewrite, Nishikori turned it down. Seiyuus (Index's especially) had various ideas on how to put in more emotion into the characters, Nishikori turned it down. It pissed off Kamachi so much that he said "its bad" and left production, and Yoshino was passive aggressive the entire interview, but Nishikori kept on insisting that He was following the book, even though the original author's suggestions were completely ignored and he COMPLETELY MISSED THE POINT ON EVERYTHING." they say this is from an interview in newtype magazine , so i think we'll wait till js06 translate it to be sure |
Apr 9, 2019 5:43 AM
#203
ssjokg said: TKMike said: Yes.The majority of the audience wasnt paying attention. That is clearly the problem.Elisile said: @Tiau Oh trust me, you've helped me to understand Acqua a little better. But your explanations are not part of the anime itself. So that's why I'm not letting the show off the hook. I think it did a good job of showing Acqua's development AFTER he had already randomly decided to stop pursuing, and actually help, Touma. My complaint is that his actual reason for having his motivation towards Touma change was not explored very well. Your explanations are decent, but the anime itself can't rely on outside people having to explain it. Bolded line triggered me, even though I disliked the show, this bolded statement is not true at all and just you not paying attention to the actual episodes while claiming it's the "shows" fault. Also your statement of 90% of the people on this forum agreeing it to not be higher than a 7 is not true at all. You can actually see the votes on this forum lmao, do the math and you will realise how ignorant you are. Lmao, is that what you interpreted from my comment?? HAHAHAHAHHA, are you this butthurt to assume Im claiming everyone who hates the serie didn't pay attention incl. myself? HAHAHAHAHAHHH, Im dying :'D Can you actually read?? |
Apr 9, 2019 5:45 AM
#204
Good to know....... |
Apr 9, 2019 5:48 AM
#205
ssjokg said: Good to know....... Good to know a LN reader can't read actual comments ^^ |
Apr 9, 2019 6:14 AM
#206
Tsukumo_Yuuma said: MahiaErebeaNegi said: Tsukumo_Yuuma said: there's a RUMOR that kamachi ( the original creator of the LN ) isn't happy with the anime , the anime was that bad lul . There's also a rumor that Nishikiori himself have no idea what should he do to Index III even when the show started airing lol, that alone just shown that how bad he as a director is. The whole "We have learned our lesson from the failure of Index III" statement is a fucking joke as long as he is still directing Index lol. i think they will most likely change him if there's a 4th season this is from index reddit about the rumor idk if it's true : "Actually true, the one posting it was the Chinese Toaru forum moderator, who was translating the recent anime interview. Its actually Yoshino and Nishikori interview, the bottom line was Nishikori's micromanagement pissed off both of them and the seiyuus. Kamachi insisted on working on certain rewrites to shorten the character wordings, and using various kind of filming technique to visualize the narration, Nishikori turned it down. Nishikori insisted on having Touma stand around not fighting, because he thinks Touma is just a perverted lucky bastard (actual words), Kamachi never offered him any help ever since. Yoshino insisted they can't fit everything in, and certain unnecessary scenes can be removed or have Kamachi do some rewrite, Nishikori turned it down. Seiyuus (Index's especially) had various ideas on how to put in more emotion into the characters, Nishikori turned it down. It pissed off Kamachi so much that he said "its bad" and left production, and Yoshino was passive aggressive the entire interview, but Nishikori kept on insisting that He was following the book, even though the original author's suggestions were completely ignored and he COMPLETELY MISSED THE POINT ON EVERYTHING." they say this is from an interview in newtype magazine , so i think we'll wait till js06 translate it to be sure According to the thread this was first discovered, it really turns out the Chinese guy put a ton of his own interpretations(and bias) on various comments on interviews in the past, the ones js06 already did. I mean it makes sense now doesn’t it? Why would some guy on baidu be the only one with the latest newttpe magazine? |
Apr 9, 2019 8:47 AM
#207
KiLLZONE15JYU said: And who says LN Readers aren't elitist, entitled, obnoxious curs? hahahahahaMy friend I hate to tell you this but it sucks because the light novel was far better than this and it was rushed with bad animation. Don't support this because you get disappointments from JC Staff along with the director. Eveyone in Japan find this adaptation poor and the BD sales just bombed which is a disappointment. |
Apr 9, 2019 8:55 AM
#208
NoviSun said: Have you ever read it then saying things without any knowledge?KiLLZONE15JYU said: And who says LN Readers aren't elitist, entitled, obnoxious curs? hahahahahaMy friend I hate to tell you this but it sucks because the light novel was far better than this and it was rushed with bad animation. Don't support this because you get disappointments from JC Staff along with the director. Eveyone in Japan find this adaptation poor and the BD sales just bombed which is a disappointment. PS Don't disrespect others opinion even you got to abmit that this adaptation was bad. |
Apr 9, 2019 1:23 PM
#209
NoviSun said: KiLLZONE15JYU said: And who says LN Readers aren't elitist, entitled, obnoxious curs? hahahahahaMy friend I hate to tell you this but it sucks because the light novel was far better than this and it was rushed with bad animation. Don't support this because you get disappointments from JC Staff along with the director. Eveyone in Japan find this adaptation poor and the BD sales just bombed which is a disappointment. Shit bait. Even though, you are genuinely free to say whatever you want after reading 24 books from the Old Testament. |
Apr 9, 2019 2:36 PM
#210
@TKMike I said the forum, not the polls. I'm assuming that even you can see that the VAST majority of the people discussing in this forum hated it, and are certainly not giving it a 7 or higher. Even if you read the reviews on the main page for this anime, most of them aren't very positive. If I had wanted to reference the polls, I would have referenced the polls. |
Apr 9, 2019 2:48 PM
#211
Elisile said: @TKMike I said the forum, not the polls. I'm assuming that even you can see that the VAST majority of the people discussing in this forum hated it, and are certainly not giving it a 7 or higher. Even if you read the reviews on the main page for this anime, most of them aren't very positive. If I had wanted to reference the polls, I would have referenced the polls. Srry, but the poll is in this forum, aka it's part of the forum..... Or am I wrong? Im not even defending this anime, but I know the general consensus are atleast more positive than negative on this forum. I am not the type who's purely focussing on the vocal minority, especially when a chunk of the complainers cant even make up their mind of what the Light Novel portrayed when I read their complaints when compairing to the source material |
TKMikeApr 9, 2019 2:53 PM
Apr 9, 2019 2:58 PM
#212
TKMike said: Elisile said: @TKMike I said the forum, not the polls. I'm assuming that even you can see that the VAST majority of the people discussing in this forum hated it, and are certainly not giving it a 7 or higher. Even if you read the reviews on the main page for this anime, most of them aren't very positive. If I had wanted to reference the polls, I would have referenced the polls. Srry, but the poll is in this forum, aka it's part of the forum..... Or am I wrong? Im not even defending this anime, but I know the general consensus are atleast more positive than negative on this forum. I am not the type who's purely focussing on the vocal minority, especially when a chunk of the complainers cant even make up their mind of what the Light Novel portrayed when I read their complaints when compairing to the source material Even if you go by the polls, 50% of people can't even bring themselves to say that it was 'good' or that they 'liked it'. In my estimation, saying that it was 'OK' is the real- world equivalent of saying "this is average at best". And you can confirm that, as the grading scale says that the 'OK' rating is only a 3/5, which is essentially average. And over 20% of people disliked or hated it. Now, a valid counter- argument might be something along the lines of "Yes, but you're ignoring the other 50% of people who said that they liked it or loved it". Well, in virtually every other real- world application, we hardly consider it a 'success' if barely 50% of people can even admit that they like something. A YouTube video with equal amount likes and dislikes? Yikes. A critic's score of a movie of only 50%? No way. |
Apr 9, 2019 3:22 PM
#213
Elisile said: TKMike said: Elisile said: @TKMike I said the forum, not the polls. I'm assuming that even you can see that the VAST majority of the people discussing in this forum hated it, and are certainly not giving it a 7 or higher. Even if you read the reviews on the main page for this anime, most of them aren't very positive. If I had wanted to reference the polls, I would have referenced the polls. Srry, but the poll is in this forum, aka it's part of the forum..... Or am I wrong? Im not even defending this anime, but I know the general consensus are atleast more positive than negative on this forum. I am not the type who's purely focussing on the vocal minority, especially when a chunk of the complainers cant even make up their mind of what the Light Novel portrayed when I read their complaints when compairing to the source material Even if you go by the polls, 50% of people can't even bring themselves to say that it was 'good' or that they 'liked it'. In my estimation, saying that it was 'OK' is the real- world equivalent of saying "this is average at best". And you can confirm that, as the grading scale says that the 'OK' rating is only a 3/5, which is essentially average. And over 20% of people disliked or hated it. Now, a valid counter- argument might be something along the lines of "Yes, but you're ignoring the other 50% of people who said that they liked it or loved it". Well, in virtually every other real- world application, we hardly consider it a 'success' if barely 50% of people can even admit that they like something. A YouTube video with equal amount likes and dislikes? Yikes. A critic's score of a movie of only 50%? No way. Let me get this straight, you claim average == terrible? Or are you manipulating the definition simply to justify your own statement?? Last time I checked, it being okay means it isn't bad nor good, aka it's even justified to remove them from comparison since they are neutral, aka "irrelevant" anyways. This is the actual stats at this moment: Good == 50% Okay == 27.46% YOUR ACTUAL STATEMENT == 22.54% Split them and we would have: Good == 63,73 YOUR ACTUAL STATEMENT == 36,27 |
Apr 9, 2019 4:32 PM
#214
@TKMike Why are you just assuming that, if the 'Ok' choice were to be removed, that everyone would just split 50/50 to either 'good' or 'bad'? I understand from a raw statistics point of view why you would do that, but we have no idea if that's actually how it would pan out. And from where I'm sitting, the discussions on this thread have been almost universally negative towards the season. The reviews on the main page are almost universally negative. The overall rating can barely scrounge up a 7/10, and that's even being generous and rounding up. Apparently, even the original author of the LN disliked the anime adaptation, and the anime's director has been coming under fire from various different fronts. So, given this overwhelming circumstancial evidence, I would lean towards more of those 'Ok' voters actually voting 'Disliked it', not 'Liked it'. Because also, think of it like this. Those 27% 'Ok' voters couldn't even bring themselves to say that they liked it. There's a reason for that. If they liked it, it shouldn't have been that hard to say so. For example, you see how harsh I've been on the show? Even I voted that I 'Liked' this episode (aka 4/5). And this is coming from ME. So, yes, it should not have been that hard for those people to admit that they liked it. But since they couldn't even bring themselves to do that, I'm highly skeptical that many of them would lean in that direction if the 'Ok' option was removed. My justification for thinking that they would lean more in the 'Disliked it' direction is that the odds are stacked in favor of them voting 'Liked it' at the present moment. They obviously like the series and the franchise if they were willing to watch this anime. They are dedicated enough to actually come to this online forum to discuss and to vote. Hell, many of them seem to be LN readers, which should give even MORE of a positive bias to the situation. Yet, despite all of that, not more than 50% of people could bring themselves to say that it was above average. That's really not good, because the assumption is that the amount of positive reviews and positive votes would be biased and inflated in the positive direction, for my aforementioned reasons. And even so, 50% of people either hated it, disliked it, or were giving it a 'pity vote' of 3 instead of 2 or 1. And we've seen many people in discussions and reviews saying that they've inflated their scores a bit just because they love the franchise, even though they really hated this season. So my claims aren't completely baseless. Now, if we removed all of that positive bias, can you imagine how many more of those votes would become 1s or 2s? I really don't think it would split 50/50 good and bad. All of the evidence points that it would mostly go bad. |
Apr 9, 2019 6:44 PM
#215
Elisile said: @TKMike Why are you just assuming that, if the 'Ok' choice were to be removed, that everyone would just split 50/50 to either 'good' or 'bad'? I understand from a raw statistics point of view why you would do that, but we have no idea if that's actually how it would pan out. And from where I'm sitting, the discussions on this thread have been almost universally negative towards the season. The reviews on the main page are almost universally negative. The overall rating can barely scrounge up a 7/10, and that's even being generous and rounding up. Apparently, even the original author of the LN disliked the anime adaptation, and the anime's director has been coming under fire from various different fronts. So, given this overwhelming circumstancial evidence, I would lean towards more of those 'Ok' voters actually voting 'Disliked it', not 'Liked it'. . Y’all can continue for discussion but appearently from what I understand there’s no real source on that so you probably shouldn’t use it as evidence (yet) |
Apr 9, 2019 6:50 PM
#216
Tiau said: Elisile said: @TKMike Why are you just assuming that, if the 'Ok' choice were to be removed, that everyone would just split 50/50 to either 'good' or 'bad'? I understand from a raw statistics point of view why you would do that, but we have no idea if that's actually how it would pan out. And from where I'm sitting, the discussions on this thread have been almost universally negative towards the season. The reviews on the main page are almost universally negative. The overall rating can barely scrounge up a 7/10, and that's even being generous and rounding up. Apparently, even the original author of the LN disliked the anime adaptation, and the anime's director has been coming under fire from various different fronts. So, given this overwhelming circumstancial evidence, I would lean towards more of those 'Ok' voters actually voting 'Disliked it', not 'Liked it'. . Y’all can continue for discussion but appearently from what I understand there’s no real source on that so you probably shouldn’t use it as evidence (yet) Are you referring specifically to the allegations of the author not liking the adaptation, and the director coming under fire? Because the rest of what I said is clearly observable on this site. |
Apr 9, 2019 8:45 PM
#217
Elisile said: Tiau said: Elisile said: @TKMike Why are you just assuming that, if the 'Ok' choice were to be removed, that everyone would just split 50/50 to either 'good' or 'bad'? I understand from a raw statistics point of view why you would do that, but we have no idea if that's actually how it would pan out. And from where I'm sitting, the discussions on this thread have been almost universally negative towards the season. The reviews on the main page are almost universally negative. The overall rating can barely scrounge up a 7/10, and that's even being generous and rounding up. Apparently, even the original author of the LN disliked the anime adaptation, and the anime's director has been coming under fire from various different fronts. So, given this overwhelming circumstancial evidence, I would lean towards more of those 'Ok' voters actually voting 'Disliked it', not 'Liked it'. . Y’all can continue for discussion but appearently from what I understand there’s no real source on that so you probably shouldn’t use it as evidence (yet) Are you referring specifically to the allegations of the author not liking the adaptation, and the director coming under fire? Because the rest of what I said is clearly observable on this site. The claims about the director and author stuff yes |
Apr 9, 2019 10:31 PM
#218
Was really really hyped for index3 after watching the awesome Kick assim railgun s. What a letdown |
Apr 9, 2019 10:40 PM
#219
Tiau said: Elisile said: Tiau said: Elisile said: @TKMike Why are you just assuming that, if the 'Ok' choice were to be removed, that everyone would just split 50/50 to either 'good' or 'bad'? I understand from a raw statistics point of view why you would do that, but we have no idea if that's actually how it would pan out. And from where I'm sitting, the discussions on this thread have been almost universally negative towards the season. The reviews on the main page are almost universally negative. The overall rating can barely scrounge up a 7/10, and that's even being generous and rounding up. Apparently, even the original author of the LN disliked the anime adaptation, and the anime's director has been coming under fire from various different fronts. So, given this overwhelming circumstancial evidence, I would lean towards more of those 'Ok' voters actually voting 'Disliked it', not 'Liked it'. . Y’all can continue for discussion but appearently from what I understand there’s no real source on that so you probably shouldn’t use it as evidence (yet) Are you referring specifically to the allegations of the author not liking the adaptation, and the director coming under fire? Because the rest of what I said is clearly observable on this site. The claims about the director and author stuff yes but anyway nishikiori twitter was bombed lol the fans attacked him so much that he deleted his " thank you for watching tweet " but the yeah the info about the author isn't confirmed yet i think it'll be fake. |
Apr 10, 2019 12:01 AM
#220
TKMike said: No he didn't claim that people who hate the adaptation weren't paying attention. He is talking about people who were confused or lost during many of this anime's arcs. If you've been following every discussion you'd notice the abnormally high percentage of comments saying things along the lines of "I don't know what's going on anymore."ssjokg said: TKMike said: Elisile said: @Tiau Oh trust me, you've helped me to understand Acqua a little better. But your explanations are not part of the anime itself. So that's why I'm not letting the show off the hook. I think it did a good job of showing Acqua's development AFTER he had already randomly decided to stop pursuing, and actually help, Touma. My complaint is that his actual reason for having his motivation towards Touma change was not explored very well. Your explanations are decent, but the anime itself can't rely on outside people having to explain it. Bolded line triggered me, even though I disliked the show, this bolded statement is not true at all and just you not paying attention to the actual episodes while claiming it's the "shows" fault. Also your statement of 90% of the people on this forum agreeing it to not be higher than a 7 is not true at all. You can actually see the votes on this forum lmao, do the math and you will realise how ignorant you are. Lmao, is that what you interpreted from my comment?? HAHAHAHAHHA, are you this butthurt to assume Im claiming everyone who hates the serie didn't pay attention incl. myself? HAHAHAHAHAHHH, Im dying :'D Can you actually read?? |
Apr 10, 2019 3:54 AM
#221
Botato said: TKMike said: No he didn't claim that people who hate the adaptation weren't paying attention. He is talking about people who were confused or lost during many of this anime's arcs. If you've been following every discussion you'd notice the abnormally high percentage of comments saying things along the lines of "I don't know what's going on anymore."ssjokg said: TKMike said: Yes.The majority of the audience wasnt paying attention. That is clearly the problem.Elisile said: @Tiau Oh trust me, you've helped me to understand Acqua a little better. But your explanations are not part of the anime itself. So that's why I'm not letting the show off the hook. I think it did a good job of showing Acqua's development AFTER he had already randomly decided to stop pursuing, and actually help, Touma. My complaint is that his actual reason for having his motivation towards Touma change was not explored very well. Your explanations are decent, but the anime itself can't rely on outside people having to explain it. Bolded line triggered me, even though I disliked the show, this bolded statement is not true at all and just you not paying attention to the actual episodes while claiming it's the "shows" fault. Also your statement of 90% of the people on this forum agreeing it to not be higher than a 7 is not true at all. You can actually see the votes on this forum lmao, do the math and you will realise how ignorant you are. Lmao, is that what you interpreted from my comment?? HAHAHAHAHHA, are you this butthurt to assume Im claiming everyone who hates the serie didn't pay attention incl. myself? HAHAHAHAHAHHH, Im dying :'D Can you actually read?? Not my point, aka irrelevant. I was specifically talking about the claim Elisile made. NOT what the forum posters made in general. So he was just wasting his time pointing out something which was irrelevant to my message. |
Apr 10, 2019 3:55 AM
#222
Elisile said: @TKMike Why are you just assuming that, if the 'Ok' choice were to be removed, that everyone would just split 50/50 to either 'good' or 'bad'? I understand from a raw statistics point of view why you would do that, but we have no idea if that's actually how it would pan out. And from where I'm sitting, the discussions on this thread have been almost universally negative towards the season. The reviews on the main page are almost universally negative. The overall rating can barely scrounge up a 7/10, and that's even being generous and rounding up. Apparently, even the original author of the LN disliked the anime adaptation, and the anime's director has been coming under fire from various different fronts. So, given this overwhelming circumstancial evidence, I would lean towards more of those 'Ok' voters actually voting 'Disliked it', not 'Liked it'. Because also, think of it like this. Those 27% 'Ok' voters couldn't even bring themselves to say that they liked it. There's a reason for that. If they liked it, it shouldn't have been that hard to say so. For example, you see how harsh I've been on the show? Even I voted that I 'Liked' this episode (aka 4/5). And this is coming from ME. So, yes, it should not have been that hard for those people to admit that they liked it. But since they couldn't even bring themselves to do that, I'm highly skeptical that many of them would lean in that direction if the 'Ok' option was removed. My justification for thinking that they would lean more in the 'Disliked it' direction is that the odds are stacked in favor of them voting 'Liked it' at the present moment. They obviously like the series and the franchise if they were willing to watch this anime. They are dedicated enough to actually come to this online forum to discuss and to vote. Hell, many of them seem to be LN readers, which should give even MORE of a positive bias to the situation. Yet, despite all of that, not more than 50% of people could bring themselves to say that it was above average. That's really not good, because the assumption is that the amount of positive reviews and positive votes would be biased and inflated in the positive direction, for my aforementioned reasons. And even so, 50% of people either hated it, disliked it, or were giving it a 'pity vote' of 3 instead of 2 or 1. And we've seen many people in discussions and reviews saying that they've inflated their scores a bit just because they love the franchise, even though they really hated this season. So my claims aren't completely baseless. Now, if we removed all of that positive bias, can you imagine how many more of those votes would become 1s or 2s? I really don't think it would split 50/50 good and bad. All of the evidence points that it would mostly go bad. You're literally grasping straw here. Irrelevant to my argument and just your way to justify your incorrectness. |
Apr 10, 2019 9:53 AM
#223
Apr 10, 2019 7:12 PM
#224
This season was a hot mess...I preferred Railgun over Index in the first place, but at least the other two seasons of Index made sense. Also, should it even be called Index at this point? She's in it for what? 20 minutes? |
Apr 11, 2019 2:52 AM
#225
yeah this whole season 3 is very bad, poor adaption, too much fighting, rushing, less misaka, but yeah atleast not too much about index...overall i would say that this season was really bad...the only thing that save this is the last arc... but hate to admit that I need season 4 right now! |
Apr 11, 2019 4:21 AM
#226
Stoorainclaire said: I don't want a sequel to this series. Its better off leaving then returning for new season. yeah this whole season 3 is very bad, poor adaption, too much fighting, rushing, less misaka, but yeah atleast not too much about index...overall i would say that this season was really bad...the only thing that save this is the last arc... but hate to admit that I need season 4 right now! |
Apr 11, 2019 4:30 AM
#227
KiLLZONE15JYU said: Stoorainclaire said: I don't want a sequel to this series. Its better off leaving then returning for new season. yeah this whole season 3 is very bad, poor adaption, too much fighting, rushing, less misaka, but yeah atleast not too much about index...overall i would say that this season was really bad...the only thing that save this is the last arc... but hate to admit that I need season 4 right now! why not? yeah I know it's bad but what am I supposed to do with this unsatisfactory feeling? they keep hanging it there and no new season would be disaster. try reading the novel? sorry I cannot get the full experience with just reading with only word around...I rather read the manga if there is one. |
Apr 11, 2019 5:06 AM
#228
Stoorainclaire said: A Reboot with a different studio is better than with a rushed story to a sequel.KiLLZONE15JYU said: Stoorainclaire said: yeah this whole season 3 is very bad, poor adaption, too much fighting, rushing, less misaka, but yeah atleast not too much about index...overall i would say that this season was really bad...the only thing that save this is the last arc... but hate to admit that I need season 4 right now! why not? yeah I know it's bad but what am I supposed to do with this unsatisfactory feeling? they keep hanging it there and no new season would be disaster. try reading the novel? sorry I cannot get the full experience with just reading with only word around...I rather read the manga if there is one. |
Apr 11, 2019 5:10 AM
#229
Stoorainclaire said: sorry I cannot get the full experience with just reading with only word around. A single volume of the series gives you more expereince than the entire 3rd season so..... |
Apr 11, 2019 5:17 AM
#230
ssjokg said: He`s not interested in light novels but manga reader so he is just asking if there would be a good adaptation to this series.Stoorainclaire said: sorry I cannot get the full experience with just reading with only word around. A single volume of the series gives you more expereince than the entire 3rd season so..... |
Apr 11, 2019 6:46 AM
#231
I rewatched season 1 and 2 thinking I'll understand this season better, looking back I really dont understand this anime's storyline most of the time I think the only time I enjoyed the story is when Touma lost his memory and the time he saved the misaka sisters. Is the LN thousand times better? Im really wondering how this is so popular in japan. |
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Apr 11, 2019 10:09 AM
#232
Vikzor30 said: I rewatched season 1 and 2 thinking I'll understand this season better, looking back I really dont understand this anime's storyline most of the time I think the only time I enjoyed the story is when Touma lost his memory and the time he saved the misaka sisters. Is the LN thousand times better? Im really wondering how this is so popular in japan. Every arc builds on teh next. If the evenst do not connect then the characters will. There was never a direct connection in all of them like you see in series like Bleach or Naruto. The problem is that the the series, and that mean sall 3 seasons, failed at making the events and/or characters connect to one another. How many remember that Yomikawa who is teaching at Touma's school is also Accelerator's guardian AND an Anti-skill? How many remember that the magic side HAd conenctions with Aleister but didnt realize that it was THAT magician they killed so many years ago? How many remember what even is Kazakiri an dhow speing the Sisters over the world is a plan? Did poople realize that the Dragon in season 1 coming out of Touma;s hand WASNT created by the alchemist Izzard? Or that the doctor DIDNT restore his hand but it regenerated? Is the LN a thousand times better? I cant tell you that as ai am biased.But it defintely makes a lot more fucking sense. |
ssjokgApr 11, 2019 12:14 PM
Apr 11, 2019 1:04 PM
#233
ssjokg said: Stoorainclaire said: sorry I cannot get the full experience with just reading with only word around. A single volume of the series gives you more expereince than the entire 3rd season so..... that the thing is, I like index or railgun series from anime and that mean it's my first impression. most light novel reader said that it bad adaption but to me anime watcher only it's normal. of course I know this season is really bad, I can see that. |
Apr 11, 2019 1:06 PM
#234
Stoorainclaire said: Igot into the series by wtching s1 and s2 of Index so yes, they were "normal" for me too.Till I read the novels.ssjokg said: Stoorainclaire said: sorry I cannot get the full experience with just reading with only word around. A single volume of the series gives you more expereince than the entire 3rd season so..... that the thing is, I like index or railgun series from anime and that mean it's my first impression. most light novel reader said that it bad adaption but to me anime watcher only it's normal. of course I know this season is really bad, I can see that. |
Apr 11, 2019 4:06 PM
#235
Ok finally sat down and watched the last 2 episodes of this travesty. Obviously not impressed, but it wasn't as terrible as I expected save for the final 2 seconds, which managed to be worse than I thought. Tfw the last frame was just a smug Birdway tho, that's cool at least. 5/10, not a waste of time but one would be better off watching something else. |
Apr 13, 2019 6:14 AM
#236
not gonna lie, i watched index s3 twice the speed coz accelerating this clusterfuck was the only way to get it over and done with and save some valuable time. somewhere along the line i just couldn't care less about the plot nor any of the characters motivation. i used to like jc staff. not anymore. 1/10 |
Apr 14, 2019 9:30 AM
#237
Apr 14, 2019 12:49 PM
#238
YizelTro said: Its MAL, this happens a lot. This series did felt rushed and boring but still I`m excited to see what happens next with the series. I don't think this series will ever get famous but if it gets a reboot with another studio then the series wouldn't look outdated.some people posted their opinion harsly or softly and some people got offended so easly which is why the chaos never stop |
Apr 15, 2019 10:09 AM
#239
KiLLZONE15JYU said: Not gonna happen.if it gets a reboot with another studio Unless the series REALLY bombs...like Umineko levels of sales. |
Apr 15, 2019 10:12 AM
#240
ssjokg said: Yeah I know but I think the series would bomb either way.KiLLZONE15JYU said: Not gonna happen.if it gets a reboot with another studio Unless the series REALLY bombs...like Umineko levels of sales. |
Apr 15, 2019 6:34 PM
#241
KiLLZONE15JYU said: ssjokg said: Yeah I know but I think the series would bomb either way.KiLLZONE15JYU said: if it gets a reboot with another studio Unless the series REALLY bombs...like Umineko levels of sales. There's multiple problems with your statements here really, 1. Index is already famous, literally season 1 is the whole reason why it became big, and even now its the whole reason why it even has so many spinoffs and games. 2. So far, Index 3 still is like one of the better selling shows of its respective seasons, so yeah |
Apr 15, 2019 10:06 PM
#242
Selling a bit more than shows that didnt do well at all doesnt make it a success worthy of celebration. |
Apr 16, 2019 3:33 AM
#243
While I agree that the sales aren't impressive so far, just a reminder that everything else also dropped in sales, likely due to digital distribution becoming more and more popular each year. Also because there's even more things coming out each season, people are being split further. |
Apr 16, 2019 5:49 AM
#244
Apr 16, 2019 6:33 AM
#245
Tsukumo_Yuuma said: If they treat Railgun like Index then I dont see that working.well, index 3 sales aren't very high but at least it can't be considered a flop. hopefully railgun 3 will sell better than this and save to aru project ( i don't think accel anime will have high sales :"( ) |
Apr 16, 2019 8:48 AM
#246
Botato said: While I agree that the sales aren't impressive so far, just a reminder that everything else also dropped in sales, likely due to digital distribution becoming more and more popular each year. Also because there's even more things coming out each season, people are being split further. Indeed, what was considered a flop before is now a success. It just so happens that Index 3 fits exactly in that success range. Thus it's actually selling well |
Apr 16, 2019 8:49 AM
#247
I guess with shit budget like that even selling at all would be considered a success. |
Apr 17, 2019 10:37 AM
#248
Tiau said: The series looks outdated and most of the blame was to the director but it's not all his fault which directs to the production committee as well. The composer is bad at naming New scores (no offense) which makes the score lackluster. The camera techniques were awful which shows bad animation if you want to know why the animation were transitioning awkwardly. Index 3 was selling ok but there is a big difference with the sales rate and it dropped massive which is a problem. I'm sorry Tiau but many fans were disappointed and felt this series was not intriguing at all. This series is going to bomb if JC Staff does this series because they cannot create good action scene which is sakuga or even make more than 50 episodes. A story needs to be interesting if it's paced properly if rushed than most of the answers are not solved. Fans can make their decision if they want a sequel and that doesn't mean it will keep getting a sucess of if is negative because that makes the series look bad which means less audience. If this studio don't fix their problem for this series than the series is best to get a reboot. The series doesn't look appealing to me anymore but it stays faithful to the source material then I'm sold back into this series because this was the only LN that was better than isekai shows like Re:Zero which is one of the best shows I watched in a long time and I understand the flaws but it's still great. The light novel for this series is amazing and I want to see a better adaptation then seeing Railgun fans making fun of this adaptation. Tiau you know that the director doesn't care for this adaptation but for it's fanservice which I think is a disgrace and most that fault is his. I don't think the production commitee are going to give this series a sequel because they mentioned a reboot before and they know how popular this LN series is which means that the series was mediocre to worst adaptation.KiLLZONE15JYU said: ssjokg said: KiLLZONE15JYU said: Not gonna happen.if it gets a reboot with another studio Unless the series REALLY bombs...like Umineko levels of sales. There's multiple problems with your statements here really, 1. Index is already famous, literally season 1 is the whole reason why it became big, and even now its the whole reason why it even has so many spinoffs and games. 2. So far, Index 3 still is like one of the better selling shows of its respective seasons, so yeah PS The writer's and the creator didn't get on well the director because he had a different perspective which means that the creator hate the meeting and left the production which puts it that he find the adaptation bad. |
Vernon-and-MythApr 17, 2019 10:45 AM
Apr 17, 2019 8:36 PM
#249
KiLLZONE15JYU said: Tiau said: -.KiLLZONE15JYU said: ssjokg said: Yeah I know but I think the series would bomb either way.KiLLZONE15JYU said: Not gonna happen.if it gets a reboot with another studio Unless the series REALLY bombs...like Umineko levels of sales. There's multiple problems with your statements here really, 1. Index is already famous, literally season 1 is the whole reason why it became big, and even now its the whole reason why it even has so many spinoffs and games. 2. So far, Index 3 still is like one of the better selling shows of its respective seasons, so yeah You do know Index is a lot bigger than Index 3 yes? Not only counting the anime theres several spinoffs and even the games haven't lost any steam whatsoever. Also your little P.S is already confirmed to be misinformation designed to cause inflammatory. I think you missed my point entirely here. Also, there's absolutely no way they will reboot Index, there would've been no point in attempting to force Nishikori and Yoshino to finish up OT with 24 episodes if they're just gonna restart at OT1 instead of moving on to NT1 which is being shilled. |
Apr 19, 2019 5:46 PM
#250
I waited quite a while for season 3 of this show, and that's because season 2 ended on a pretty interesting take, introducing a lot of new characters and a possible new war. The plot and some of the characters are the reason I still wanted a season 3. But there are way too many characters. Wayyyy too many. After the first arc, the whole ITEM, GROUP, etc. stuff really made me fall asleep more than once. The story was still interesting though so it made the episodes a lot more bearable since the war was coming up ahead. The way they executed the war made me confused so many times, it's like having 10 programs opened and you're trying to multitask every one of them. I like how they treated Itsuwa and Hamazura. I didn't like how they completely shutdown Misaka as a character. How the hell did Accelerator get wings? And they ended the season on another cliffhanger. They even show Alister and stuff happening after the "war". I really like Index story but somehow the anime annoys me because of everything else. In the end, I liked how it began, but I believe they should've handled the war differently, much more slow paced. 5/10 |
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