| For me, Railgun S1 was better than Index not because it was great, but because Index sucked more. It's that difference between a 6/10 show and a 4/10 one. The first half of S2 (Sisters Arc), however, is pretty damn awesome. |
astroprogsOct 12, 2018 6:24 AM
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This is what Index(And railgun) is when the director and the entire team cares. Sadly same director has a bad filler fetish and the director of Index just doesnt want to putt hat much effort..... |
ssjokg said: Dude I was wondering what you meant about a thug girl.AirConditioner said: 8 episodes into Railgun and honestly so far, it's been a lesser experience to me than Index was at this same episode count. While I didn't think the 1st season of Index was particularly rich in it's narrative, the main cast and plot focus were considerably more enjoyable to sit through. I enjoy Saten and Misaka, but Uihara incites nothing but indifference and Kuroko can be considerably annoying at times, which is a bit of an issue considering she's a main character in this instance. Even Misaka herself is considerably more endearing in her interactions/dynamics with Touma than any of the new female co-protags, which is further enhanced in my mind with Touma's few appearances throughout the show. Couldn't help smiling every time he'd appear, honestly, because every scene he was in tended to be considerably more entertaining than any scene Misaka had with Kuroko or Uihara, let's say. That's not to say I'm not enjoying Railgun. I definitely am and it's still a good show over-all, but I feel like it hasn't managed to really reach the entertainment value that Index did with it's cast, plot or comedy dynamics and narrative-wise, it's more of the same as Index except bit more of a snorefest. It makes sense since Railgun was made for fans of Misaka and Kuroko from Index.Saten and Uiharu,the latter actually existing in Index, were the extras. The anime goes out of its way to remove continuity with Index anime(and novel and even Railgun manga). Where is Touma when he should have been there in ep8?Why remove him and add some who-the-fuck-is-she neechan thug? Oh yeah Railgun sucks because of fillers and bs like that. Sisters arc in Railgun S is the only thing that is great and even better than Index so dont expect much. Checked the episode. Wow. I'm impressed you remember exactly which episode. Also yeah Railgun is filler galore EVEN in canon arcs. Random ass clover fields anyone? In a city of science that rejects the occult, yeah let's add a fluffy clover field scene who cares about the tone Edit: AirConditioner said: I definitely understand what the appeal of Railgun is supposed to be, but since it's generally considered better than Index, I'd have thought that the reason for it wouldn't be as asinine as ''there's no dumbass harem male MC, CUTE GIRLS with some yuri bait is better''. Part of me always assumed that was going to be the reason since that's the case for most of these things, but well, it's whatever. I mean, once again: Botato said: astroprogs said: They do that because:With all of these announcements, I think I'm gonna dive again into Toaru. I watched the first 2 seasons of Index years ago and thought that they were a huge waste of time and potential. Index was also one of the most annoying characters I've seen in anime. People seem to generally have a better impression of Railgun (and Misaka), so I think I'll try my hands at that. Hopefully, the experience will be better this time. 1. Hate on Touma 2. Misaka is babby's first tsundere waifu (we are at a point now where Toaru, a post-2000 series is a classic) 3. Better production values 4. Overall better handling of the material 5. Even the shitton of fillers were mostly cute girls doing cute things No wonder. And I say that as a Misakafag myself btw. Railgun is great but I feel like a lot of the reason I like it is all the context provided by Index for a lot of shit. It's like how one can enjoy Prisma Illya anime without reading FSN, but reading FSN will likely enhance the experience immensely. Also fillers aside Railgun is better than Illya anime yeah there I said it. |
BotatoOct 12, 2018 7:09 AM
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| You can argue there's nothing wrong with fillers inherently and I would agree, but the way they were added or shoehorned was terrible especially when they had at least TWO Railgun Side Stories they could have used instead. If Railgun 3 doesn't start with Liberal Arts City and instead goes straight to fillers I'mma strangle someone. |
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| Lets not forget that Railgun's fillers destroy the characters and established rules. Anti-Skill Teacher whose whole character is based on "Dont let kid fight, protect them at all costs" lets ALL kids fight Metal Gears with a smile on her face. A railgun is changed into a beam. Misaka can breath in space Kuroko's teleportation no longer carries momentum. Misaka can aim the railgun to hit targets KMs away. Filler character has literally the same power one favorite characters has. Misaka is downplayed for this arc to even work. |
| Do I need to watch Railgun to watch the S3 of Toaru? |
| Nope. |
| Ah Itsuwa is still the cinnamon roll I remembered her as |
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| Itsuwa would have been best girl if she was a major character. Shame. |
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| The problems with having a huge cast of characters. |
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 Not really, digging the OP or the ED but maybe I'll grow to like it later. The OP visual is pretty good tho. |
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| It'll also take me a while to get used to the OP but the ED is the greatest thing of all time. A few words in and it drops a bombshell that encapsulates basically all of Jojo from Part 5 on. |
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SherouCreationEX said: A few words in and it drops a bombshell that encapsulates basically all of Jojo from Part 5 on. I don't get it. |
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| "Everytime I close my eyes, I wake up feeling so horny" basically describes Araki's deeper and deeper dive into the vaguely homoerotic with every new chapter of Jojo. |
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| Man, I did not pay attention to the lyric. |
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| Horray, they kept Kirito's monologue. You can see he is just as confused as we are . This adaption is setting up to be great one. Slowly, you'll see how Underworld is different from VRMMO. These characters are not playing game, they are living. I didn't realize how much Selka look like Alice while reading the LN. So adorable, gimme back my Alice! Episode feel so short, why can't every episode be one hour?! that ED though, don't you feel bad for Eugeo? Blaming himself for Alice being taken away and his two childhood friends disappeared (and he have to chop tree that ain't going down in his lifetime), he only remember Alice and shota Kirito is forgotten. |
Kaiser-chanOct 13, 2018 11:10 AM
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SherouCreationEX said: "Everytime I close my eyes, I wake up feeling so horny" Holy shit, that was like the only lyric I paid attention to, lol. basically describes Araki's deeper and deeper dive into the vaguely homoerotic with every new chapter of Jojo. This I approve |
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| Finished Railgun S2 and quickly rewatched Index S1. When I say I finished R-S2, I mean that I watched episodes 1-17 and skimmed through the rest. Man, that was a tedious bunch of bullshit to sit through. Would've given it a 7/10, but settled on 8/10 because 2/3rds of the season was awesome. Would've been a 9/10 too if it wasn't for that mind-numbing filler. I think I may go on a frenzy if I ever hear the word "Febrie-chan" ever again. Also, now that I watched all of the released Railgun, I'll say this: the SoL filler in Railgun is good, but I don't think that it's as good as the Prisma Illya SoL filler. Prisma Illya's filler is more energetic, more comedic and has its heartwarming moments. Railgun's filler was good-to-meh, for me ultimately. As for Index, man, it becomes a lot better with the info from Railgun. My experience certainly was NOT this positive when I first watched it. Railgun as a whole still feels better, but I can now see what you guys meant when talked about the Index adaptation compared to Railgun when it came to handling the same material. Now, on to Index S2 so I can finally start Index S3 with all the info in mind. Oh, and should I watch the movie? From what I understand, it's not an adaptation of an LN material. |
| Watching SAO weekly might have been a mistake. This is too slow. Is it time to read the LN :thinking: astroprogs said: Should be noted that the Index parts of Sisters arc in Railgun (Touma's perspective) are very abridged in Railgun. Most notably the bridge scene, and the fight with Accelerator itself. That said the way Index (which is also abridged from the LN version, btw) does it is painful... sound direction makes your ears bleed and it's hard to take the characters seriously with those derpy faces.Finished Railgun S2 and quickly rewatched Index S1. When I say I finished R-S2, I mean that I watched episodes 1-17 and skimmed through the rest. Man, that was a tedious bunch of bullshit to sit through. Would've given it a 7/10, but settled on 8/10 because 2/3rds of the season was awesome. Would've been a 9/10 too if it wasn't for that mind-numbing filler. I think I may go on a frenzy if I ever hear the word "Febrie-chan" ever again. Also, now that I watched all of the released Railgun, I'll say this: the SoL filler in Railgun is good, but I don't think that it's as good as the Prisma Illya SoL filler. Prisma Illya's filler is more energetic, more comedic and has its heartwarming moments. Railgun's filler was good-to-meh, for me ultimately. As for Index, man, it becomes a lot better with the info from Railgun. My experience certainly was NOT this positive when I first watched it. Railgun as a whole still feels better, but I can now see what you guys meant when talked about the Index adaptation compared to Railgun when it came to handling the same material. Now, on to Index S2 so I can finally start Index S3 with all the info in mind. Oh, and should I watch the movie? From what I understand, it's not an adaptation of an LN material. The movie is irrelevant. It's canon, but you can go ahead and ignore it.The events won't come up in the main story again, and the movie original characters are not mentioned except for 2 times (NT9 and NT18), but the mentions were more of an easter egg than anything and just a sort of confirmation that the movie is indeed canon. It's kinda fun tho so when you have 2 hours to kill and you're curious knock yourself out I guess. |
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| Okay so, opinions time: https://myanimelist.net/anime/37430/Tensei_shitara_Slime_Datta_Ken https://myanimelist.net/anime/37475/Kishuku_Gakkou_no_Juliet https://myanimelist.net/anime/37497/Irozuku_Sekai_no_Ashita_kara https://myanimelist.net/anime/37450/Seishun_Buta_Yarou_wa_Bunny_Girl_Senpai_no_Yume_wo_Minai What do you guys think of these 4 so far? I got bored and gave the chart another look, still on the fence about these ones (didn't actually notice the romeo and juliet one before). Goblin Slayer in case you're wondering is a no go for me, skimmed the first episode because it seemed so polarizing, yeah meh. Also I somehow completely missed Run with the Wind I'm definitely watching this. So anyway, how are you guys finding them? Detailed explanations are not necessary if you don't feel like it, just want to know who is enjoying what etc. |
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| Buta Yarou is good - the MC has just the right amount of snark and relatability, and the mystery aspect is interesting. Slime is great in that it gives a somewhat unique perspective despite being an isekai. RomiJuli is 99% cliche - watchable, but more like a guilty pleasure anime. And I didn't watch the 4th I'd say to deffo watch Slime and Buta Yarou. Your existence could probably live without ever having watched the RomiJuli one tho. |
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| Romeo/Juliet is absolutely a great anime IF what you're looking for is a harem and not something else entirely. |
| Buta Yarou is great so far, the two leads are great and have fantastic chemistry, the mystery and supernatural aspect is pretty interesting as well. Slime is great as well, gives a unique take on the Isekai genre and the humor hits pretty good too. Not to mention the show looks very good. Irozuku is pretty good, the MC is a bit depressing and its moving pretty slowly so far,but I'm finding it interesting and it's really pretty. Kishuku is nothing to right home about. It's a romcom filled with the usual cliches. Its not bad or boring as it's pretty entertaining, but you won't miss out on much by skipping it. |
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Botato said: Watching SAO weekly might have been a mistake. This is too slow. Is it time to read the LN :thinking: There have never been a time where rushing a story is good. Alicization is the longest arc, they should take the time. The world building is important. Yes, yes you should. |
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| This shitpost is effort is too high! |
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| Hmm interesting, interesting. Thank you very much :D AirConditioner said: Figured it'd be fun for shakespeare fans. welp.Romeo/Juliet is absolutely a great anime IF what you're looking for is a harem and not something else entirely. KaiserNazrin said: K uhh... Let me rephrase that. 1 episode a week is not enough.Botato said: Watching SAO weekly might have been a mistake. This is too slow. Is it time to read the LN :thinking: There have never been a time where rushing a story is good. Alicization is the longest arc, they should take the time. The world building is important. Yes, yes you should. |
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| Just started watching Zombieland Saga, and it's pretty good. Miyano is a national treasure - glad to know I get another season of listening to his crazy voice. About as much fun as any other generic show that uses forbidden romance plot, yeah. |
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| Speaking of romance, https://myanimelist.net/anime/37786/Yagate_Kimi_ni_Naru This seems like a good romance so far, I also like the perspective it takes on love in general. |
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-Mahesvara said: Speaking of romance, https://myanimelist.net/anime/37786/Yagate_Kimi_ni_Naru This seems like a good romance so far, I also like the perspective it takes on love in general. It its an awesome romance. Maybe at the beginning is "meh why did Touko fell in love with her so easily?" Because that was my first impression while reading the manga, but it gets soo good I'm surprised. The romance pacing is nice and is not forced, no stupid love triangle, no heartbreaking, no melodrama. I also like that each supporting character has a meaning, they're just not there to fill space, they have impact towards the romance and individual mc actions. Also I'm glad there's no ecchi or lewd scenes that just make it a sexual romance. I wouldn't recommend Yuri or Shoujo-Ai but this one is pretty tame and "normal" just like a regular slice of life anime. |
 Let's see how different the ranking would be few weeks from now. |
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| Kinda happy to see Zombieland Saga that high up |
| I'm guessing Index III's rank is due to the hiatus and no early English release? Zombieland in top 5 is nice. |
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| Slime is fun and all, but god, does it feel slow when you have to wait a week for every episode. Weekly waits are both aggravating and exciting at the same time. |
| I haven't been following a lot of things weekly for like 2 years (yaaay burnout), so I kinda forgot how aggravating it can be. It's why I ended up giving the chart a second look, need to distract myself with at least one new episode every 2 days or so. Edit: Speaking of second looks, I've got enough opinions from people I'm familiar with I think. Going to give Slime and that bunny senpai thing a shot. The colors thing by PA Works I will likely wait another week before I decide, I don't want to regret another Glasslip. |
BotatoOct 15, 2018 1:14 PM
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| Disgusted, but not shocked that Goblin Slayer is number one. Its the most controversial title released in awhile, so its going to be the talked about show and people are going to just check it out to see what the uproar is all about. |
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| I'm surprised they got a hentai premise to work on a normal anime. I'll have to check it out. |
| I mean it doesn't work well imo. Honestly it's just there for shock value, to give the audience more reasons to hate the Goblins(like there wasn't enough reasons already), and to stimulate the people who have a monster rape fetish. |
-MahesvaraOct 15, 2018 3:40 PM
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| >Goblin Slayer 1st place. Sigh, I guess that's the anime "community" in a nutshell They believe edgy titles are the only good "MATURE" anime and if you don't share their disgusting opinion you're a butthurt snowflake. There even was a discussion of "Goblin Slayer not having enough rape scenes" No wonder why people who aren't into anime consider us retarded. |
-Mahesvara said: I mean it doesn't work well imo. Honestly it's just there for shock value, to give the audience more reasons to hate the Goblins(like there wasn't enough reasons already), and to stimulate the people who have a monster rape fetish. It succeeds in Not really. Rape is there because the author is specifically sticking to the more traditional portrayal of Goblins in dark fantasy where they're a parasitic, savage race that had no female members and reproduced via rape of human females. That and it's meant to serve as a genre subversion of what you'd expect from a seemingly atypical fantasy harem show, since in recent fiction Goblins have been turned into a considerably more savory race than they initially were in their conception. It's done rather well for all intents and purposes. It's one of the few examples where rape is used an actually good writing asset (as weird as that sounds) to establish a disgusting, unsavory tradition of a race that's by all means meant to be repulsive and parasitic as they are, akin to things like zombies and titans. It's fine if you don't like GS because it's definitely unrestricted in it's style of writing and portrayal, as it's clearly meant to be written as dark fantasy closer to how dark fantasy traditionally was, which leads to it being quite gruesome, but it definitely doesn't do the things it sets out to achieve poorly. It's the best example of work that - if you're searching for what it promotes itself to be - is an absolutely amazing show to sit through, but a horrible show if you can't stomach or seek things it doesn't promote itself as. Veromaye said: Sigh, I guess that's the anime "community" in a nutshell They believe edgy titles are the only good "MATURE" anime and if you don't share their disgusting opinion you're a butthurt snowflake. Goblin Slayer is unironically a good show. Not for everyone, definitely, but the practice of denouncing it as simple EDGE that only idiots and teenagers could like because you can't stomach what it's meant to be is about as silly and ridiculous as people who idolize anything that has some form of grimdark setting to it. |
AirConditionerOct 15, 2018 3:51 PM
AirConditioner said: Goblin Slayer is unironically a good show. Not for everyone, definitely, but the practice of denouncing it as simple EDGE that only idiots and teenagers could like because you can't stomach what it's meant to be is about as silly and ridiculous as people who idolize anything that has some form of grimdark setting to it. First, I never said that GS is a bad anime. In fact I believe from what I know, taking the rape trash, it does sounds a well build and interesting anime. Problem here is people praising an anime just because it has deaths, gore and hardcore rape scenes. You see people memeing, discussing and enjoying that. Which is not that I'm saying they can't, but it's the main reason people watch it and consider themselves and the anime "mature". >You don't agree GS is best animu?, you're probably fucking stupid and sjw I have a personal problem with rape, and I'm not saying that rape is the problem about the anime, is about how it's used and portrayed. Specially because like Mahesvara said, it's mainly used as a shock factor to make the public "Hate" ( lmao ) the goblins. I know you said it's part of the world building blablabla, but it actually needed to be explicit to understand that Goblins are disgusting creatures that do that in order to reproduce? No. You don't need to watch a documental of a rapist raping tons of women - men to disgust and feel reject towards them. You don't see people shitting about Berserk because I'm pretty sure Berserk takes this theme in a more deep manner and not just to make people "hate" and justify a bunch of characters actions. Is to build characters and make impact about their decisions. Just like KnK did with Asagami Fujino and Berserk did with Guts and Casca. Anyways, just to clarify again. I don't think GS is a bad anime, I just believe the rape theme is used in a shock factor way and it's not really used in a deep and grave manner like people believe it does. |
| My main problem with it is that it mostly uses rape as a way to establish how evil something is without really dealing with rape itself in an in-depth manner. The girl who got raped in the first episode was basically a non-character who simply existed for the sake of "oh that poor girl" and is never seen again in the series because she's just that poor mind-broken adventurer. I hate bringing up the Berserk comparison, because it does also have its moments of unnecessary rape, but it at least tried to examine the effects of rape through Guts and Casca. EDIT: Sniped by Veromaye Also I've seen some of the rape and nudity scenes in the manga and they literally look like they came from a goblin hentai manga, so if they were trying to make it look disgusting, they could have done A LOT more. Like bruh, if you're gonna do it like that, make some doujins or something. Cause I need more for my personal collection. |
-Sherou-Oct 15, 2018 4:38 PM
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| Not to mention the writing is poor and lazy. Goblins are considered low threat, yet they constantly destroy villages and kidnap women, and then they send novice adventurers(female ones to boot), who often get wiped out or captured and made baby making fodder, but only the Goblin Slayer is not naive or ignorant to their true threat potential. It kind of reminds me of how most bad horror movies writers make most of their characters be complete idiots and have them make the worst decisions possible just so it's easier to make the bad shit happen. |
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| Some folks are just too sensitive to enjoy certain fictional media. |
| Don't know what you're implying considering I enjoy the edgy grimdarkness of the Adventures of Gattsu and his friend Berserk just fine. |
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| Wasn't aimed at you. You're sensible. It's mostly guys who see something they find offensive in fiction and denounce it. |
| > too sensitive to enjoy certain fictional media. And you believe that's the problem? The problem is how extremely bad certain themes are used. It's like mocking the whole point of the theme. And then people ask you "are you watching Goblin Slayer? Because it's the best mature anime of the season" And you just say no because you don't like how they use the whole raping thing and the most intelligent reply is "Lmao sensitive snowflake go and watch kiddies stuffs". How retarded can someone be to articulate that answer and still believe they're mature because they're watching fictional characters getting raped? |
| People watch mature anime to feel mature? Lol I thought the whole point was to be entertained. |
| That's another point and you just ignored the whole reply. You believe that people who don't consider watching a poorly written fiction that is stupidly using delicate themes are sensitive. ????? The problem is how freaking stupid the theme is used. And yet people defend it because it's "mature and if can't deal with it you're a sensitive snowflake" Like, if you like to jerk off using the rape tag that's up to you, but it doesn't mean people have to enjoy it and if they don't do it that doesn't make them sensitive. |
ShinsoPriest said: Literally no one here is saying Goblin Slayer is bad because it has rape. We're saying how the rape is being used and portrayed is bad and since Goblin rape is a constant theme in the story due to how the author wrote the Goblins, it's a major turnoff. Especially when you combine it with the bad writing and misogynistic content, the female characters really get the worst experiences, while the Goblin Slayer gets to be the badass and saves the helpless girls and eventually builds up a harem.Wasn't aimed at you. You're sensible. It's mostly guys who see something they find offensive in fiction and denounce it. |
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