Kimi no Iru Machi Chapter 261 Discussion

Spider-titan55 said:
I also notice that the wedding photo looks like the one from Suzuka. I know that some anime have been doing that but with how this manga keeps on being a copy of Suzuka that's where I just pound my head. I mean it's the exact same thing! Will daiki be a copy of Fuuka where he's also a twitter head meeting some tomboy like Akari or asuka or an evil mischivious girl like rin? You know, I'd go with rin because it'll be interesting to see how that'll pull off. And you know what? I'd say that rin should've been the main girl. I mean yeah yuzuki was the one in the beginning and had an interesting backstory to get rin involved but with how they handled rin's character and the times she's shared with haruto it would be interesting to see this psychological and sexual relationship will handle itself because with their interactions every time I read them she kinda screams main girl to me. I mean yes we got the fantasy chapter but I would love to see the exploration before and during the relationship because when you read the fantasy chapters you have to wonder how haruto even ended up with rin to begin with?

Behemoth11 said:
I can't understand Harutos behavior about Kazamas helmet. I would spit on his grave, if he blackmailed my girlfriend.

Behemoth11 said:
I can't understand Harutos behavior about Kazamas helmet. I would spit on his grave, if he blackmailed my girlfriend.

jose21 said:


Is love, I'll never get tired of saying that Haruto was totally gay for Kazama.
I guess, Seo could be blame for this, I mean, if he would have change the story a little and make Kazama recognize his mistake, and instead of asking Haruto to take care of Kiyomi, but Yuzuki before his dead, he wouldn't have looked that bad. I guess Seo did try to redeem Kazama whey they talked at the roof the school, when he told Haruto that Yuzuki was only with him cause of pity, but Seo, in order to not make Haruto lose and make him the ultimate best friend, decided to make Haruto live in denial of the situation.

Spider-titan55 said:


yeah, if haruto was written write he would've been a little more mad at him and maybe seo might punch him. okay maybe he won't punch him but being furious is acceptable since yuzuki did break up with him which is reasonable to get mad considering what kazama did. yuzuki's actions were just forced. you know, i know kazama is a sick man but i prefer haruto to punch him because of the shit he just pulled. heck, because of that he almost lost his friends, nearly ruined his school life, and got his parents irritated by the whole situation. heck, this even made nanami distraught. so yeah, fuck kazama. i hope he's burning in hell and heck, what haruto said to him back in chapter 170 was worth it. if only kiyomi knew the rest of the story-_-

ekanseht said:
I'm not so sure about that. The forced drama break-up just before the end of the serie was a really lame plot twist.
Haruto meeting Kazama, and Kazama being the douchebag who blackmailed Yuzuki, while improbable was not completely unrealistic.

I agree with jose21. If Kazama had given his blessing to Haruto, to take care of Yuzuki in case he didn't make it, would have made better sense and he wouldn't have looked that bad.

ekanseht said:


Well it did give him a motivation to move his ass out of Hiroshima and meet Yuzuki in Tokyo, which I'm not sure he would have done if he had kept going a LDR with her for 2 years.

Events pile up after that. If you look down the road, without douchebag Kazama, Haruto may have broken up with Yuzuki, would not have met Kiyomi, hence no Kiyomi x Takashi, would not have met Asuka, hence no relationship with her. He might not have had the balls to become a chef and would have chosen a safe route just like Akari did.

So basically, we would have been stuck with the characters from Hiroshima. While I do like Akari and Nanami a lot (I would have loved a relation between Akari and Haruto, maybe a triangle with those 3), I think the cast and the setting was a little too small to make the characters grow.

Behemoth11 said:
Hopefully Seo won't bring something like that up again in Fūka. I mean this NTR thing. Did Yuzuki and Kazama "dirty things", during their relationship?

Behemoth11 said:
Hopefully Seo won't bring something like that up again in Fūka. I mean this NTR thing. Did Yuzuki and Kazama "dirty things", during their relationship?

Spider-titan55 said:



Definitely not. It was never implied that they did and it was obvious from the whole arc and book. And even if they did that would make kazama into an even more unlikable jackass. I swear what did kiyomi ever see in him and how did asuka end up being his friend? And more importantly why did haruto treat him as a pal with all of the shit he's just pulled and never apologized for it? I mean did haruto not notice what he did before moving to Tokyo? If I did the same thing because some asshole pulled the same stuff as kazama I'd pound his smug face. I don't care if he is sick. Either you make up for this shit or be the biggest asshole in the area. Fuck him to hell.

ekanseht said:


No, I don't think so. If I remember correctly Kazama infered that they didn't even kiss once.

Behemoth11 said:
Hopefully Seo won't bring something like that up again in Fūka. I mean this NTR thing. Did Yuzuki and Kazama "dirty things", during their relationship?

ekanseht said:
To sum thing up, in Haruto's place I would be mad at Yuzuki, not Kazama because :
- Kazama did not have all the picture when he decided to move on Yuzuki, just his standpoint.
- Yuzuki, on the other hand, had all the info. She knew Kazama was dying, she knew she was in a relationship, she knew she loved Haruto and knew he loved her. But she still dumped him for a dying guy. That to me is the real betrayal.

jose21 said:

No, Haruto got the furthest by making him love bentos, but he definetly didn't get anything from Yuzuki, nor even her smile. Well, he did, but can't help but feel sorry of how he got her smile.
Anyway, I guess that thing KNIM, which I refuse to call NTR, was not that bad if you compare it to what happened in Half & Half, well at least it wasn't Yuuki, but still it was awfull.

ekanseht said:
To sum thing up, in Haruto's place I would be mad at Yuzuki, not Kazama because :
- Kazama did not have all the picture when he decided to move on Yuzuki, just his standpoint.
- Yuzuki, on the other hand, had all the info. She knew Kazama was dying, she knew she was in a relationship, she knew she loved Haruto and knew he loved her. But she still dumped him for a dying guy. That to me is the real betrayal.

ekanseht said:


You have to look at this from an other angle than Haruto's to understand and don't identify yourself in this situation. Put things into place objectively :
- Kazama liked Yuzuki since they were in middle school
- Knowing he was dying, he didn't care if he was being a prick, he just wanted her by his side until the inevitable end.
- He didn't know Haruto then
- He and Haruto met not even knowing they both knew Yuzuki, even less that she was their girlfriend
- They became friends, at that moment Kazama was just the perfect bro-friend archetype. He backed up Haruto with the Nagato stuff and tried to help him.
- When Haruto told Kazama his story, Kazama told him to go all in and that he would back him up again.

At that moment, you can't say Kazama betrayed Haruto. You can't even say that he betrayed him as a friend, because they didn't even now each other. And now that he got her back, why would he let her go? Because he told the guy he would support him? Would you have sacrificied your probable last relationship of your life?

I have a weird way of defining friendship and betrayal, I know, but I kinda understand Kazama's standpoint. If I knew I was dying, I'm not even sure myself that I wouldn't be as egoist as he was.

I don't like him and I definitely don't accept his actions even though I understand them. But I don't hate Kazama.

jose21 said:


I don't know, but I would be quite disappointed knowing my friend pull that trick on a girl, even if I didn't know her at all. Also, after he got all the picture and admitting that she was pitting him, the right to do as a the good friend that he is portrayed to be, he should have given them his blessing to continue dating instead of making them look as the assholes who stole his happiness and betrayed him.

Yuzuki did something stupid, but if you think about it it wasn't that bad. I mean she just wanted to help this guy who helped her before. She made herself the antagonist cause she told Haruto that she was the one who stalked and confessed to Kazama when it was the other way around. She broke up with Haruto, but there was possibility that haruto eventually was gonna go to Nanami, and what she told Haruto in the letter might have even helped him not feel guilty doing that.

Spider-titan55 said:


What does NTR stand for anyway?

ekanseht said:
I'm not saying he's not a dick. Neither am I saying it wasn't deceitful of him. But I guess I understand a little. I mean, I don't know what it means to know that I'm about to die but it must not be a pleasant way of living.
I'm not justifying his actions. Again I will never accept that coming from anyone. I just get from where he comes from even though.

Well, Yuzuki is as stupid as it gets. Haruto and her both share only half a brain.

Spider-titan55 said:



Definitely not. It was never implied that they did and it was obvious from the whole arc and book. And even if they did that would make kazama into an even more unlikable jackass. I swear what did kiyomi ever see in him and how did asuka end up being his friend? And more importantly why did haruto treat him as a pal with all of the shit he's just pulled and never apologized for it? I mean did haruto not notice what he did before moving to Tokyo? If I did the same thing because some asshole pulled the same stuff as kazama I'd pound his smug face. I don't care if he is sick. Either you make up for this shit or be the biggest asshole in the area. Fuck him to hell.

Sugram22 said:


i agree, Definitely not, not to mention that Yuzu never acted as Kaza GF, she acted like a friend always, she din't even kiss Kaza so dirty things are out of the question :D

Benphyre said:


To add on, knowing or not knowing Haruto does not justify for his actions. It was a downright desperate jerk move of Kazama. Scheming and deceitful act to guilt treat Yuzuki. It was probably karma that his operation failed.

ekanseht said:


You have to look at this from an other angle than Haruto's to understand and don't identify yourself in this situation. Put things into place objectively :
- Kazama liked Yuzuki since they were in middle school
- Knowing he was dying, he didn't care if he was being a prick, he just wanted her by his side until the inevitable end.
- He didn't know Haruto then
- He and Haruto met not even knowing they both knew Yuzuki, even less that she was their girlfriend
- They became friends, at that moment Kazama was just the perfect bro-friend archetype. He backed up Haruto with the Nagato stuff and tried to help him.
- When Haruto told Kazama his story, Kazama told him to go all in and that he would back him up again.

At that moment, you can't say Kazama betrayed Haruto. You can't even say that he betrayed him as a friend, because they didn't even now each other. And now that he got her back, why would he let her go? Because he told the guy he would support him? Would you have sacrificied your probable last relationship of your life?

I have a weird way of defining friendship and betrayal, I know, but I kinda understand Kazama's standpoint. If I knew I was dying, I'm not even sure myself that I wouldn't be as egoist as he was.

I don't like him and I definitely don't accept his actions even though I understand them. But I don't hate Kazama.

ekanseht said:
To sum thing up, in Haruto's place I would be mad at Yuzuki, not Kazama because :
- Kazama did not have all the picture when he decided to move on Yuzuki, just his standpoint.
- Yuzuki, on the other hand, had all the info. She knew Kazama was dying, she knew she was in a relationship, she knew she loved Haruto and knew he loved her. But she still dumped him for a dying guy. That to me is the real betrayal.

Sugram22 said:



i'l use my old KIMI anime EP7 post to answer u

if u think about it, that Yuzu & Kaza were in contact while Yuzu was dating Haru (no idea did they mention it in anime? but it was in manga, maybe it is in OVA to), Kaza had to know that Yuzu has a BF, but he did not care & he pulled the death card, & if he did not know i'm really surprised cause its weird if u ton't tell ur friend that ur in a relationship, & if he did not know he should have more brains to ask Yuzu, to u have a BF & that he did not shows that he did not care, so it dose not matter which way it is cause both show what kind of a selfish jerk he is, he did not think of Yuzu's feelings neither, cause forcing some1 to be with u with pity or what ever will never work no1 will be happy, not the forcer not the forcy & not forcy BF or GF all are unhappy, so cause of all that, i know its mean, but i ton't feel sry for Kaza, if all i'm glad hes dead

so it doesn't matter that he did not know Haruto before, its enough that he knew Yuzuki had a BF!!!! that makes him as bad as if he would have known Haruto before he came between them




did Yuzuki date Haru & Kaza at the same time? NO!!!! did she broke up with Haru when she found out that Kaza is sick? YES!!! so its not betrayal, well more like self betrayal, in other words she betrayed herself

not saying i not mad at Yuzu cause of her stupidity, cause i am mad at her, but i'm more mad at Kaza cause he knew that Yuzu would do that, come to him

Behemoth11 said:


Sorry, but even if you desribe it like that, Kazama still seems like a dick to me. Kazama used his advantageous situation to influence Yuzuki, because he knew Yuzuki had a good heart and was also too naive.
I will never understand how Kyomi could feel something for him. Too bad no one cleared this mess once and for all during this whole time up.

But if I remember correctly on his gravestone was written:

"He was a dick!"

ekanseht said:
Well, Yuzuki is as stupid as it gets. Haruto and her both share only half a brain.

Spider-titan55 said:
and haruto had the ounce to honor him by putting his helmet in his restaurant-_- fuck you kazama. i hope he's burning in hell

Sugram22 said:


yes its pretty stupid, i would have given that helmet to Kaza's family, its not for Kaza, but for them, the were not dicks like Kaza

MgMaster said:
I'm gonna rate this with a generous 6/10 because I enjoyed the Hoshirama & Tokyo arcs a lot(Tokyo arc might've been a rage-fest but it was,without doubt,entertaining) and I didn't mind the slice of life chapters focused on Haruto AND Yuzuki afterwards. The ones where he meets x girl & all that jazz were annoying and even more annoying as we got more of them. Everything starting from the job hunting arc was just bad and got worst as we went along,culminating in this pitiful excuse of an ending(but hey,it still made me laugh on how rushed it was so I guess that counts to some degree).

ekanseht said:


So you enjoyed chapters 1 to 170 a lot (Hiroshima & Tokyo arcs), was ok with about 50 chapters of slice of life Haruto and Yuzuki. That's about 220 chapters out of 261, 200 at worst, so you found about 80% of the manga enjoyable. And that gives it a "generous" 6/10?
I hope you're not a teacher or else you're facing severe depression amongst students x)

ekanseht said:
Oh, so that's why you made an other topic specifically about alternate endings :p

As I said on the other topic, all other characters lost a lot of visibility after Haruto and Yuzuki got back together. You're right though, it would have been a better writen story if we had the chance to see the interactions between Rin, Asuka and Haruto after the breakup since Haruto shared a real bond with those two. We didn't even have that with Takashi who is supposed to be his best friend...

Rushed ending is rushed...

dd9679 said:
I actually liked the manga.

Yes there was lots of pointless arcs (perverted stuff), but it was fun to read.

I just didn't like the ending that much. The reunion between Haruto and Yuzuki seem too rushed.. (Meet at the tree -> success)

I was predicting from all the way to chapter 100 that Haruto would move to HIROSHIMA and open restaurant there. I think that would have been more meaningful since Haruto was talking about moving back to Hiroshima and Yuzuki didn't hate the idea of it. Plus Hiroshima was where they first met, fell in love, watched the fireworks, childhood memories, etc..

In the end I like it alot. Will definitely read again. :D

Spider-titan55 said:


I agree that despite me being rageful at the book it was fun to read and hopefully Fuuka will be too.

ekanseht said:


Oh my god. You actually said something positive about KNIM o/
Just kidding.

I'll be reading Fuuka too.
And I agree with you dd9679, I kinda expected them to move back to hiroshima. But staying in Tokyo does make sense too.

2-D said:
I laughed through the whole thing. You really blew it, Seo. Well played.

Spider-titan55 said:
There's gonna be some extras that take place after 260. It's confirmed in seo's twitter. Hopefully we'll get some insight on the characters