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MagicFlier said: sarroush said: MagicFlier said: rederoin said: ...sigh, will people ever stop using 'shoujo-ai'? I can dream, can't I? Why? Shoujo-ai is an "american" term. In Japan it roughly translates to liking underage girls. I thought that any female that's under-aged here are those that are still in high school, and this is about a high school life here. Did I get my terms wrong? In America possibly, but the term "shoujo ai" itself actually denotes pedophilia in Japan. You only see yuri used in Japan and that encompasses everything "shoujo ai" & yuri encompass in the west. |
| Yes, yes it's yuri but it's still 'cute things being done in school' along the route of Love Lab, Non Non Biyori and I i've not been able to sit through those shows lately. I like the clean looking backgrounds, the shadows and the emptiness of the classroom/environment. Deen on a roll with good visuals: Hakkenden, Meganebu!, and now this. I'll just pretend Pupa doesn't exist. |
Yvese said: Kerozinn said: Then why did you even watch it? It doesn't take long to realize this is a Yuri show.dropped. i have zero interest in yuri shows. and ppl who say this has good animation quality..dont fool yourself. its just the kisses. Look at the damn genre. It says YURI. If you learned how to read you'd save yourself so much trouble. Reading is hard you know. I always make sure to watch all reverse harems and then comment on how I hate them. |
Kaioshin_Sama said: kenshin_sama said: Kaioshin_Sama said: I understand that, I guess I'm just routinely shocked at how big and passionate the audience for this kind of dreck is. The fact is this dumb moe moe dime a dozen fanservice anime is probably going to be more highly praised and worshiped than things with some actual merit and sense of decency to it this year. It just really irks me that it's that easy to get peoples praises at this point in the history of the medium and how low peoples standards continue to be. It's really not a good look either for anime or the fanbase. Gosh, I'd feel bad if anyone was routinely surprised at anything. Don't give yourself a stroke while browsing through these forums. It's not worth it! Still, while it is understandable, that's a bit of a cynical way to look at things. This is simply entertainment. Nothing wrong with appreciating serious anime, but there's a certain charm to simplicity in which many people like delving into. You have your simple battle shounen, simple SoL, and even simple, fanservicey romance. There won't always be a lot of merit to these kinds of shows, but it makes that much of a difference to those that regularly follow anime. The beauty of anime is that it doesn't have a tight limit of themes that everyone can appreciate (like the majority of western movies/cartoons), but has a very diverse following of people who generally appreciate many different things. And for once, we actually have an anime that targets an audience that desires yuri romance without it being a secondary element. Though it is shodily done (from a non-subjective viewpoint), it's the first series in ages to deliver this kind of experience, so it's bound to have this kind of reaction. Even though it's not a good anime, it's hard to call the production of this series a bad thing as it delivers something a lot of people want. It delivers entertainment in the form of simple, fanservicey, girl x girl romance. |
kenshin_sama said: Kaioshin_Sama said: kenshin_sama said: Kaioshin_Sama said: I understand that, I guess I'm just routinely shocked at how big and passionate the audience for this kind of dreck is. The fact is this dumb moe moe dime a dozen fanservice anime is probably going to be more highly praised and worshiped than things with some actual merit and sense of decency to it this year. It just really irks me that it's that easy to get peoples praises at this point in the history of the medium and how low peoples standards continue to be. It's really not a good look either for anime or the fanbase. Gosh, I'd feel bad if anyone was routinely surprised at anything. Don't give yourself a stroke while browsing through these forums. It's not worth it! Still, while it is understandable, that's a bit of a cynical way to look at things. This is simply entertainment. Nothing wrong with appreciating serious anime, but there's a certain charm to simplicity in which many people like delving into. You have your simple battle shounen, simple SoL, and even simple, fanservicey romance. There won't always be a lot of merit to these kinds of shows, but it makes that much of a difference to those that regularly follow anime. The beauty of anime is that it doesn't have a tight limit of themes that everyone can appreciate (like the majority of western movies/cartoons), but has a very diverse following of people who generally appreciate many different things. And for once, we actually have an anime that targets an audience that desires yuri romance without it being a secondary element. Though it is shodily done (from a non-subjective viewpoint), it's the first series in ages to deliver this kind of experience, so it's bound to have this kind of reaction. Even though it's not a good anime, it's hard to call the production of this series a bad thing as it delivers something a lot of people want. It delivers entertainment in the form of simple, fanservicey, girl x girl romance. It just irks me that people will drool over something like this, but come up with anything with an actual narrative, interesting characters and some genuine imagination in concept and execution and people either aren't paying attention or will probably just end up being overly critical of it. I'm struck again and again how the most desired kind of anime series nowadays is something that panders to some base instinct or fetish, has exactly 4-5 girls, is probably based on some 4Koma and has some scene and/or throwaway light hearted gag bits that are obviously meant to get people talking more about something that isn't just the fetish being catered too. It's really hard not to have the cynic in me awoken when I see something like this being unironically praised ahead of the likes of something like say Silver Spoon which I swear is the only goddamned show with anything approaching a pulse this season that does manage to get me to enjoy it in it's simplicity, humbleness, and quiet yet respectable character development without having to cater to some specific fetish or have some sort of unfortunate gimmick attached to it. |
PeacingOutJan 10, 2014 12:14 PM
sarroush said: MagicFlier said: sarroush said: MagicFlier said: rederoin said: ...sigh, will people ever stop using 'shoujo-ai'? I can dream, can't I? Why? Shoujo-ai is an "american" term. In Japan it roughly translates to liking underage girls. I thought that any female that's under-aged here are those that are still in high school, and this is about a high school life here. Did I get my terms wrong? In America possibly, but the term "shoujo ai" itself actually denotes pedophilia in Japan. You only see yuri used in Japan and that encompasses everything "shoujo ai" & yuri encompass in the west. Part of the problem is that plenty of Western fans just don't care what it really means. I have many friends who I tried to explain the difference to when I saw them using Shoujo-ai instead of yuri, but they literally just laughed in my face, and called me an idiot. They laughed at symbv for being an idiot himself for trying to get MAL to change shoujo-ai to yuri too. Some people just don't care. |
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Kami_no_Kage said: Part of the problem is that plenty of Western fans just don't care what it really means. I have many friends who I tried to explain the difference to when I saw them using Shoujo-ai instead of yuri, but they literally just laughed in my face, and called me an idiot. They laughed at symbv for being an idiot himself for trying to get MAL to change shoujo-ai to yuri too. Some people just don't care. Unfortunately, if something has been set in place and used for quite some time, it isn't too easy to change. I know many people who go berserk if you tell them a series is "yuri" even when it doesn't have girls kissing or being an open couple and they go "THIS ISN'T YURI! ITS SHOUJO-AI!" Changing people's ideas about it in that case is near impossible. |
| Hey guys, did you know you can enjoy series like uchouten kazoku and kyousougiga yet STILL enjoy shows like sakura trick? Its almost like the shows are a part of a different genre and have different standards. Weird, right? |
Kami_no_Kage said: sarroush said: MagicFlier said: sarroush said: MagicFlier said: rederoin said: ...sigh, will people ever stop using 'shoujo-ai'? I can dream, can't I? Why? Shoujo-ai is an "american" term. In Japan it roughly translates to liking underage girls. I thought that any female that's under-aged here are those that are still in high school, and this is about a high school life here. Did I get my terms wrong? In America possibly, but the term "shoujo ai" itself actually denotes pedophilia in Japan. You only see yuri used in Japan and that encompasses everything "shoujo ai" & yuri encompass in the west. Part of the problem is that plenty of Western fans just don't care what it really means. I have many friends who I tried to explain the difference to when I saw them using Shoujo-ai instead of yuri, but they literally just laughed in my face, and called me an idiot. They laughed at symbv for being an idiot himself for trying to get MAL to change shoujo-ai to yuri too. Some people just don't care. Good, it's a silly thing to be overly concerned about. |
| wahh finally some shoujo ai anime in a long time!! Loved it!! All the characters are pretty great! can't wait for more!! :D |
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Kaioshin_Sama said: The things you are saying doesn't just apply to these genres you know, i read in a earlier post of yours that you mentioned several key elements where people praise an anime for simple fact is those things sell.It just irks me that people will drool over something like this, but come up with anything with an actual narrative, interesting characters and some genuine imagination in concept and execution and people either aren't paying attention or will probably just end up being overly critical of it. I'm struck again and again how the most desired kind of anime series nowadays is something that panders to some base instinct or fetish, has exactly 4-5 girls, is probably based on some 4Koma and has some scene and/or throwaway light hearted gag bits that are obviously meant to get people talking more about something that isn't just the fetish being catered too. It's really hard not to have the cynic in me awoken when I see something like this being unironically praised ahead of the likes of something like say Silver Spoon which I swear is the only goddamned show with anything approaching a pulse that does manage to get me to enjoy it in it's simplicity, humbleness, and quiet yet respectable character development without having to cater to some specific fetsih or If it didn't it would not be around. Another simple fact is that many people who offend these genres often watch genres which are just as repetitive. Just look at the number of anime out there with an arrogant main character that's constantly bragging and the only thing on his mind is violence, the anime with overpowered characters that always seem to be fighting and never lose. With that i pretty much described 80% of the long running shounen anime a simple concept that doesn't contribute much but it sells, better said it sells so well that those anime are the milking cows of the anime industry airing in a number of different countries. My point is the anime industry needs money as well so they have to come with things that sell and shamefully some very simple concepts are popular. And the complex story concepts and story lines don't always sell well. The anime industry doesn't always want to take risks when it doesn't need to and it's not something of recent years like you are claiming it's something that has always been around. Wether it's recant anime or anime from the 80s and 90s the anime that are complex masterpieces always have been rare. |
| The Feels...... Yuri...... Yes. |
| Wonderful Yuri Goodness Abounds! Nice character designs; some pretty nice background art in spots; decent gags; better story flow than most 4koma adaptations; fanservice that is sufficiently titillating but not overly ecchi; and extremely well animated and acted kiss scenes. (Yes, the kiss scenes in this show require a significant amount of acting. It isn't easy to sound like you are really, really, really enjoying a kiss that takes a full 30 seconds from first pucker to passing out due to lack of air. Yuka Iguchi, as Yuu, does an excellent job of it! You may want to use headphones for the full effect... er... I mean in case there are other people in the house that may not want to hear it... yeah... that's what I meant...) |
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| hmmm... another one dropped instanly. Can't see what people like on this one. Animation may be great but the cast is pretty generic. It also has so much fanservice it makes the whole thing look pathetic. I simply can't take it seriously. Just my 5 cents. Hate me for it if you want. |
"Es irrt der Mensch, solang er strebt." - Faust I, Vers 317 |
| Just finished watching the first episode. What I liked about it : the yuri kisses the gags What I disliked about it : the graphics and the animation quality ( sorry, but it's pretty bad compared to others shows) the voices, too high piched for my taste. I'll keep watching this show, since I like yuri. |
Don't talk to me about character development if Kaizuka Inaho or Slaine Troyard are in your favorites. |
| Very cute :D That flip on the veranda xD So much kissing :D And there will be a lot of the in the next ep too, there was a lot of it in chapter 2 of the manga xD |
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SailorKagome said: Just finished watching the first episode. What I liked about it : the yuri kisses the gags What I disliked about it : the graphics and the animation quality ( sorry, but it's pretty bad compared to others shows) the voices, too high piched for my taste. I'll keep watching this show, since I like yuri. What you didn't like the epic and awe inspiring flip scene. But I mean its so giffable and clearly the source of divine inspiration and the desire to create pure art, you're clearly not reacting in the way this show expects you to react lol jk. |
| Hot OP looks like this will be straight up yuri >:D Lol the lines leading up tot hat kiss were hilarious. Wow that first kiss was something else 0_0 Short-term memory loss problems there :P "Need food" :p That gymnastic flip was successfail ;) Well that was a hot first episode and looks like the next episode will have the other 2 girls making out :D One of the most surprising things out of all of this is that the school is co-ed I was expecting an all-girls school. |
Aeonenleben said: hmmm... another one dropped instanly. Can't see what people like on this one. Animation may be great but the cast is pretty generic. It also has so much fanservice it makes the whole thing look pathetic. I simply can't take it seriously. Just my 5 cents. Hate me for it if you want. Not hating, but just pointing out: This is based on a 4koma - a GAG manga... Why would I try to take it seriously? |
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| How could I forget this manga? Seeing this animated bring tears to my eyes. |
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zensunni said: Aeonenleben said: hmmm... another one dropped instanly. Can't see what people like on this one. Animation may be great but the cast is pretty generic. It also has so much fanservice it makes the whole thing look pathetic. I simply can't take it seriously. Just my 5 cents. Hate me for it if you want. Not hating, but just pointing out: This is based on a 4koma - a GAG manga... Why would I try to take it seriously? Well the japanese humor is quit beyond me. Thats why comedy is one of my worst rated genres. There are excellent exceptions like Gintama but generally speaking i find the slapstick-humor most of the animes produce annoying and not funny at all. "Seriously" since i am of the oppinion that romance especially Shonen-Ai/Shojo-Ai should be shown seriously to make it actually likeable. Overworking stereotypes is just dumb and makes the whole anime look dumb as well since relationships between the cast are really important. (At least for me) |
"Es irrt der Mensch, solang er strebt." - Faust I, Vers 317 |
| To the bashers, please keep it in mind that people have DIFFERENT preferences, interests and likes. You guys needn't say you can't believe we enjoy something like this anime. We ourselves can't believe you guys enjoy some of those anime you've watched or anime you like/love. That's just how life is, and that applies to everybody. If you didn't like it, we understand that. We don't expect you guys to like this sort of thing if you're not into it in the first place. But, please show some respect as well as we show you guys respect. So stop putting the anime down for what it is, and its watchers. You might as well just watch something you'd like to see, instead of watching an anime of this genre and bash it to death. That's all we have to say. Thank you. :) |
| Holy shit, I never expected this show to be so controversial. |
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| Yuri of the season! :D Lot of fanservice, right, but at least Deen went straight to the core and animated everything that fans want, yes! This title seems really promising, each weak now get another dose of fresh fanservice. Character designs are also cool. It's clear this is aimed to male audience :) Yuri is good, m'kay? :)) |
Kaioshin_Sama said: Considering how much time you spent on bashing the show and isulting its fans I would say that you're "anally devastated", not "irked". But well, that's just me being grammar nazi.It just irks me e: the irony |
ProgeuszJan 10, 2014 1:38 PM
| l Progeusz said: Kaioshin_Sama said: Considering how much time you spent on bashing the show and isulting its fans I would say that you're "anally devastated", not "irked". But well, that's just me being grammar nazi.It just irks me e: the irony Lmao, that's so true. |
| Wow, bold and pleasant! Never read the manga, I'll keep the anime :P |
Nhemo said: To the bashers, please keep it in mind that people have DIFFERENT preferences, interests and likes. You guys needn't say you can't believe we enjoy something like this anime. We ourselves can't believe you guys enjoy some of those anime you've watched or anime you like/love. That's just how life is, and that applies to everybody. If you didn't like it, we understand that. We don't expect you guys to like this sort of thing if you're not into it in the first place. But, please show some respect as well as we show you guys respect. So stop putting the anime down for what it is, and its watchers. You might as well just watch something you'd like to see, instead of watching an anime of this genre and bash it to death. That's all we have to say. Thank you. :) Sometimes I wish every MAL user would be this open-minded. I like this anime too, it's relaxing, has good fanservice and it's also funny. Well said, Nhemo ;) |
Mich666 said: Nhemo said: To the bashers, please keep it in mind that people have DIFFERENT preferences, interests and likes. You guys needn't say you can't believe we enjoy something like this anime. We ourselves can't believe you guys enjoy some of those anime you've watched or anime you like/love. That's just how life is, and that applies to everybody. If you didn't like it, we understand that. We don't expect you guys to like this sort of thing if you're not into it in the first place. But, please show some respect as well as we show you guys respect. So stop putting the anime down for what it is, and its watchers. You might as well just watch something you'd like to see, instead of watching an anime of this genre and bash it to death. That's all we have to say. Thank you. :) Sometimes I wish every MAL user would be this open-minded. I like this anime too, it's relaxing, has good fanservice and it's also funny. Well said, Nhemo ;) Thank you. It's just that seeing some people degrade the anime and its watchers really ticked me off. Not because I like the anime or I take its side but, it's called common courtesy. -.- Of course, one's opinion is important but, why would you go all the trouble of watching something you don't like just to bash it? Lol. |
Kaioshin_Sama said: SailorKagome said: Just finished watching the first episode. What I liked about it : the yuri kisses the gags What I disliked about it : the graphics and the animation quality ( sorry, but it's pretty bad compared to others shows) the voices, too high piched for my taste. I'll keep watching this show, since I like yuri. What you didn't like the epic and awe inspiring flip scene. But I mean its so giffable and clearly the source of divine inspiration and the desire to create pure art, you're clearly not reacting in the way this show expects you to react lol jk. From the way you talk, its like this show raped you and your family or something. Chill out. |
| Look at this show's "plot". http://i.imgur.com/1zZWn4K.png |
skudoops said: I should mention one more thing, those kiss scenes were really bad. They gave off the impression that was the first time they had ever done that, but the way they kissed looked less loving and more like they were getting ready to have sex. Was really off putting honestly, not to mention they pull out two or three of those in the first episode. So what's there after this? Full on hentai? Really scrapping the bottom of the barrel here. |
skudoops said: I should mention one more thing, those kiss scenes were really bad. They gave off the impression that was the first time they had ever done that, but the way they kissed looked less loving and more like they were getting ready to have sex. Was really off putting honestly, not to mention they pull out two or three of those in the first episode. So what's there after this? Full on hentai? You do realize that this is the first time they did this, right? |
skudoops said: I should mention one more thing, those kiss scenes were really bad. They gave off the impression that was the first time they had ever done that, but the way they kissed looked less loving and more like they were getting ready to have sex. Was really off putting honestly, not to mention they pull out two or three of those in the first episode. So what's there after this? Full on hentai? Has the world really changed that much since the mid-80s, when I last had a "first kiss" with a girl I like? I don't recall ever having a first kiss that didn't pretty much turn into a make-out session. Has the "chaste first kiss" that we see in anime most of the time actually become a reality? In my opinion, those looked like some of the more realistic kisses in anime. |
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rederoin said: skudoops said: I should mention one more thing, those kiss scenes were really bad. They gave off the impression that was the first time they had ever done that, but the way they kissed looked less loving and more like they were getting ready to have sex. Was really off putting honestly, not to mention they pull out two or three of those in the first episode. So what's there after this? Full on hentai? You do realize that this is the first time they did this, right? Lets not forget that kissing is intimate, and they clearly had feelings for each other before hand. Theirs no way that was ever going to end in a small "peck". |
zensunni said: skudoops said: I should mention one more thing, those kiss scenes were really bad. They gave off the impression that was the first time they had ever done that, but the way they kissed looked less loving and more like they were getting ready to have sex. Was really off putting honestly, not to mention they pull out two or three of those in the first episode. So what's there after this? Full on hentai? Has the world really changed that much since the mid-80s, when I last had a "first kiss" with a girl I like? I don't recall ever having a first kiss that didn't pretty much turn into a make-out session. Has the "chaste first kiss" that we see in anime most of the time actually become a reality? In my opinion, those looked like some of the more realistic kisses in anime. I guess people have never heard of "passion". Teenagers are known to be ready to make out at a moment's notice. |
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ZodiacBeast said: zensunni said: skudoops said: I should mention one more thing, those kiss scenes were really bad. They gave off the impression that was the first time they had ever done that, but the way they kissed looked less loving and more like they were getting ready to have sex. Was really off putting honestly, not to mention they pull out two or three of those in the first episode. So what's there after this? Full on hentai? Has the world really changed that much since the mid-80s, when I last had a "first kiss" with a girl I like? I don't recall ever having a first kiss that didn't pretty much turn into a make-out session. Has the "chaste first kiss" that we see in anime most of the time actually become a reality? In my opinion, those looked like some of the more realistic kisses in anime. I guess people have never heard of "passion". Teenagers are known to be ready to make out at a moment's notice. People need to re-watch |
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| Yo anyone else getting a strong Shaft vibe from this? I've taken to calling this Yurimonogatari. |
| So much yuri Send help |
BURSSS BURSSS BURSSS SWAG -GMCFosho |
| Cute, but Haruka is so annoying.. |
| If I was an anime character, I would've lost all my blood due to nosebleeds by now. Best of the season for now! |
| And also, sakura petals EVERYWHERE. |
Sookieee said: we all know that realistic kisses arent like the ones in tora-dora or the ones that give off "omg.. kyaa. that's my first kiss, what should i do?" lol.. i believe the kisses in this anime is closer to being realistic. why? because well duh, they didn't mind each other and it was obvious that haruka likes yuu and she wanted more. thats what happens in real life too. I'm not sure you watched the same Toradora! I did. There was a ton of passion in those kisses, more with each one. It was just scripted nicely. LOL The kisses here are much more realistic. (And Yuu certainly seemed to enjoy it just as much as Haruka... if not more... more vocally at least. She is just a bit to tsun...) |
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| This was beautiful and I am happy. |
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