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| I am not convinced that Fyodor is truly dead lmao. Mf always finds a way out for some reason. But I did not expect things to end here. Did the anime went a little ahead of the manga? |
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| Overall, this was an awesome season, it had everything I enjoy about Bungo in it. My only real complaint is in this second half of this arc, it felt like a lot of our regular characters didn't have much to do, a lot of them felt really sidelined. First thing I thought of when this episode ended, was Where was Kyouka during this whole thing? I remember her last season, but I can't think of a single scene she was in this season. Why was she not utilized at all? Sad, because she was one of my favorite characters. That's the biggest problem with this series, is character bloat. Got to see a lot more from characters like Kenji and Tachihara, which I loved the development for both of them, but it always comes at the cost of other characters getting little to no screen time, even though they really should be actively involved in the conflict at hand, Like Keyouka. |
| Honestly peak ending, actually amazed they managed to fix up all the plot threads in one episode. |
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| I imagine someone has posted this, but to make it easier to look for: FYODOR'S LAST WORDS Translate to "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?" They are taken from the Bible in Aramaic and are part of the 7 Last Words of Jesus Christ while being crucified. In this case, they are the 5th Word: Abandonment. |
| I'm surprised so many people loved the ending and thought this was a good way to wrap the arc up... it was so extremely rushed in a series that usually has well-paced finales. I imagine the manga will have *basically* the same events but with better explanations, as that tends to be how it goes when comparing the manga and anime here. There are way too many unanswered questions for this to be a satisfying way to close things out. And the "2 hours later" thing was very unnecessary. I have a feeling that the anime and manga are going to split here and the anime's real end will be a movie while the manga does its own thing and continues on. The mysterious figure Atsushi and Akutagawa are fighting looks like Fukuchi and if this episode was canon to what will happen in the manga, then I'd rather Fukuchi be laid to rest after all the angst that was put on Fukuzawa. The vibe of this whole episode felt "off" to me and I'm getting deja vu from Owari no Seraph's final episode, where the anime also got ahead of the manga at the end of the season and the manga ended up being very different. Well, all I can do now is wait for the next BSD chapters and hope they are the superior version... because this episode was probably the worst in the series ngl. |
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| This was a non-ending. And it was definitely a let down and major retcon of the entire character development for some characters and major parts for others. The whole 2 hour jump was basically a means of saying "and Fukuchi's plan went to hell." The key for this happens in Poe's book during his conversation with Fukuzawa... "IN TWO HOURS..." and then he goes on to say the Amendment that will create an "army of mankind" will go through and the leader decided. That's why we get a two hour jump. We can know for certain from this thar Fukuchi's plan doesn't work (yet we get a finale that really wants to lead viewers into believing that this conflict is over and done when basically this entire episode was a way of making it FEEL resolved but actually giving no resolution at all). Not to mention, so long as you are on a present tense timeline and don't go far enough beyond Fukuchi's certain death, you can retcon his death or the death of any characters that we don't have a definitive timing of in relation to Fukuchi's death back to life through his ability to "cut back into the past" for 12 seconds. And that's pretty much the exact narrative framework they used. The most ridiculous thing that happens in this episode is that everyone accepts that Fukuchi wins and that this is his plan when there is one major problem: that two hour window of vulnerability in which anything can still happen by Fukuchi or anyone using him "erasing" the brief pseudo-death scene we see. And even if it's not erased, again, we know for certain that it all goes to hell after the vote is passed. Also with Fyodor's ability still unknown, you can play that as a wildcard. (I think we all know he isn't dead.) So ultimately, nothing was concluded in this episode. It's just the episode screaming very loudly to viewers that "here is a conclusion and resolution for this arc!" where there actually isn't one when in actuality they just stopped the storyline part way through this arc. That's also why there can be another season in the works with where the source material is at: this isn't the end of this arc, it just wants you to think it is. |
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Aya’s desperate attempts of no use could’ve just led to one conclusion… her pulling something along the lines of a suicide. Yep, she literally jumped off the building, only to increase the overall weight to pull out the holy sword… and she succeeded as well. And let’s just say, she ain’t the only one who did…
… Fukuzawa who was literally dead this whole while, WOKE UP ALL OF A SUDDEN, AND HECK FUCKING COUNTERED FUKUCHI… only to succeed, I mean kind of convenient how the op sword was stuck within Fukuzawa that whole while and Fukuchi couldnt make use of it, and then proceeding to stop the invasion as well. YES, THE INVASION HAS STOPPED, though this ain’t the only groundbreaking one-eighty we did this episode… as the one and only, GOAT Dazai somehow made his return as well lmaooooooooooo.
DAZAI is alive, Dazai is kicking, Dazai outsmarted Fyodor….. AND DEATH FAKEOUTS HAVE OFFICIALLY BECOME A THEME OF BUNGO STRAY DOGS. I like this series, I really do, but again the same explanations of how our main guys got the best of villains through those good ol’ ways of them NOT noticing something very crucial got me dying lol.
Fyodor is DEAD, Fukuchi is DEAD, and this for every reason feels like an ending they sorted for this adaptation and adaptation alone. I mean they’re main villains lol, you couldn’t have both of them dead just like that. So, they concluded as happily as they could have, even somehow redeeming Fukuchi lol.
Not sure if we'd have the same happenings in the next chapter of the manga as well, but for now, one went away, and we have a new bunch playing the villains. A new instalment?
… Fukuzawa who was literally dead this whole while, WOKE UP ALL OF A SUDDEN, AND HECK FUCKING COUNTERED FUKUCHI… only to succeed, I mean kind of convenient how the op sword was stuck within Fukuzawa that whole while and Fukuchi couldnt make use of it, and then proceeding to stop the invasion as well. YES, THE INVASION HAS STOPPED, though this ain’t the only groundbreaking one-eighty we did this episode… as the one and only, GOAT Dazai somehow made his return as well lmaooooooooooo.
DAZAI is alive, Dazai is kicking, Dazai outsmarted Fyodor….. AND DEATH FAKEOUTS HAVE OFFICIALLY BECOME A THEME OF BUNGO STRAY DOGS. I like this series, I really do, but again the same explanations of how our main guys got the best of villains through those good ol’ ways of them NOT noticing something very crucial got me dying lol.
Fyodor is DEAD, Fukuchi is DEAD, and this for every reason feels like an ending they sorted for this adaptation and adaptation alone. I mean they’re main villains lol, you couldn’t have both of them dead just like that. So, they concluded as happily as they could have, even somehow redeeming Fukuchi lol.
Not sure if we'd have the same happenings in the next chapter of the manga as well, but for now, one went away, and we have a new bunch playing the villains. A new instalment?
| @Softhenic03 Well, they just punked out most viewers into thinking this story arc reached a resolution when it didn't. I wouldn't count Fukuchi OR Fyodor out yet. The major problem occurs (and the reason for the specific time jump ending points out one major flaw in Fukuchi's plan: there is still a 2 hour window of vulnerability for his entire to plan to eat shit since the resolution won't be passed until then. With Fyodor's ability unknown and no absolute confirmation of Fukuchi's death and the amount of time that has passed since it, they can retcon anything that has happened within 12 seconds of that death. We have no way of truly knowing the relationship between Dazai and the rest of the cast's time lines either due to the isolated nature. Everything Dazai says in his explanation past a certain point is what he THINKS happened and is happening outside, not what actually did happen. And since we only see these events as an illustrated explanation of Dazai's own postulation; not as the events themselves, you have a situation in which just about everything they lead the viewer into believing about the ending is extremely unreliable. They've given themselves so many ways to back out of these final episodes that it's actually ridiculous. This episode didn't end the current story arc in any way, shape, or form. They can backtrack on it through two different abilities and the overall narrative framework used in the episode. The next season (possibly a movie?) will most likely pick up in the same story arc with some explanation of how they fooled viewers, a bit of backtracking if necessary, the events of the next 2 hours, and then what we see in the time skip and moving forward from there. I have a strong feeling that they won't be using complete chronological order in the next season as well. |
| Dazai totally outsmarted Fyodor with Chuuya who never was a vampire ahaha. I also liked Aya's courage and bravery that was impressive, not to mention Fukuchi's death to end the conflict while Atushi is with Akutagawa but we need S6 to see what's next now. |
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| ending yg tragis :( menunggu season berikutnya |
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| I felt bad for Fyodor :/ he was my favorite bsd villain.... |
This is Nanba Prison. No one has ever escaped successfully from this prison. -Nanbaka |
| magnificent final ep for this season!! i balled my fckn eyes out at the end!! also wtf happened in 2hrs that the world seemingly went to shit? how did that guy get the sword? either way i'm stoked for another season!!!!! i love this anime!! |
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| Probably the best anime this season. Good ending as well (even though there's a little bit of a cliffhanger but endurable). Perfect timing, lovable characters (especially Dazai and Chuuya), wonderful song (it made me teary). The next season might take a long time but for sure I'll look forward to it! 🔥😍🥰 |
| for me this show is so amazingly good and deserved 9.5/10 scores !!! |
Piromysl said: Oh, boi. If I had a penny for every "I will usher an utopia, but the cost will be violent revolution and some people will die", which eventually ended up with tyranicall regime, genocide and suppression of human rights, then I would be rich.  Dunno what Japan sees with this trope of humanizing villains with desire of violent revolution that has no logical chance of working out and never did in history. They tried exact same shit with Senator Armstrong and now with Genichiro. dont forget lelouch |
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Piromysl said:
Oh, boi. If I had a penny for every "I will usher an utopia, but the cost will be violent revolution and some people will die", which eventually ended up with tyranicall regime, genocide and suppression of human rights, then I would be rich.
Dunno what Japan sees with this trope of humanizing villains with desire of violent revolution that has no logical chance of working out and never did in history. They tried exact same shit with Senator Armstrong and now with Genichiro.
Oh, boi. If I had a penny for every "I will usher an utopia, but the cost will be violent revolution and some people will die", which eventually ended up with tyranicall regime, genocide and suppression of human rights, then I would be rich.
Dunno what Japan sees with this trope of humanizing villains with desire of violent revolution that has no logical chance of working out and never did in history. They tried exact same shit with Senator Armstrong and now with Genichiro.
dont forget lelouch
| @Alex_the_reaper I am atleast glad that fukuzawa points out the fallacy of fukuchi |
 Without change,we end up becoming the very person we hate. I was dead until the moment I met you. I was a powerless corpse pretending to be alive. Living without power, without the ability to change my course, was bound to lead me to a slow death. |
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| Dude... This was an insane way to end the season, what the hell. I liked it though, and getting to experience something totally unexpected with anime-onlies and manga readers alike was really fun. The last Fyodor scene was so fucking good but I don't believe for a second that he's actually dead. Seemed like Nikolai was up to something with him. Also soukoku reunion rocked and I love the fact that Chuuya had to consciously listen to Dazai's corny speeches and not get pissed off lol |
| If Fyodor is dead I will drop this show. No chance. Great finale. This series only got gradually better with each season. Fukuchi's last momemts hit hard. Glad to see that some serious sacrifices had to be made to save the day. Strong 7,5/10 |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Best season in the series, best end in the series. |
| Such a emotional episode, See you all guys in season 6 ;) |
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| This season of Bungou Stray Dogs was an unexpected masterpiece of this season. I loved it, all the twist and turns kept me on the edge of my seat every week. 10/10 |
| Couldn't see how they could have survived this. Was pleasantly surprised. What a rollercoaster of a season. Loved every episode and was left wanting more after each one. |
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