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Dec 19, 2022 7:03 PM

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i had a sudden urge to rewatch this show and binged the first 6 episodes. will try and take it slow with the last 6, since i feel like it takes a different turn post graduation that benefits from a slower viewing experience

there're so many things cramped in these episodes though, but especially 5 and 6, that it ends up being really easy to lose something otherwise important if you aren't aware that's supposed to be there. because, really, it just happens like it's something minor. like Hoshi change of heart towards Nagara and the crew's plan: it's supposed to be an important dilemma, but it happens so fast and amidst so many other things that you might as well not realise he did go against god's will, and it's so subdue that i'm not even sure, even now, about it. it's one of my biggest grips with the show.

also spoilers for the rest of the show:


anyway, onto the second half. may this time i be able to get a better hold of what seemed to be very loose treads back in my first viewing (even if the overall impact of the show was far greater than any perceived drawbacks)
llorandoDec 19, 2022 7:18 PM
Jul 19, 2023 3:29 AM

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I'm totally hooked, I love that we only know as much as those kids find out.
Sep 11, 2023 9:29 PM

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thepokemask said:
I am surprised no one has really mentioned the connection of the principal to the movie Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb. In the movie, Peter Sellers plays a former nazi who is an expert on nuclear warheads. The movie is about a false attack from the Soviets leading to a US Air Force General ordering a nuclear strike on the USSR. The movie is a giant paradox about probability.

With a roll of dice, both powers could destroy each other and cause the end of the world. Just as the anime with a roll of dice they could return to their original world. Now does this imply the principal implies Dr. Stranglove, who, with a press of a button, could destroy the world? Does this make Dr. Strangelove the world of the governing world because of his ability to destroy it? Is the principal also the 'god' of the world they inhibit a copy of Dr. Strangelove? I believe that this connection is on purpose and could tell us how the series will end. This episode felt like the last episode of the series and, I had to check to make sure there were still more planned.

The principal's appearance is mainly meant to tell us that the characters do not control the world. Nagara cannot create worlds but can witness them. The characters see themselves in the graduation segment which, was an amazing scene. They find out that they lost a metaphorical coin toss and are the ones who lost. We are following the losers of this coin toss as they are bound to this world. This implies that they are useless and can never be their selves in the old world. They are forever stuck to this world and can never leave. However, they still might have a chance.

There is so much to unpack in this episode that it is really hard to grasp most of the ideas in it. Like how there could be a connection to the warheads in Dr. Strangelove. In the movie, there are two warheads shown. One says "Hi there!" and the other says "Dear John" both are references to American Civil War songs. Specifically, the "Dear John" song is known as Johnny I Hardly Knew Ye. This song is about a man who abandons his child to go to war. The song continues further and talks about how he comes back permanently damaged by war. He is welcomed back but only with pity. In the movie, there is a famous scene where the pilot flies to his death on a bomb. The bomb he was on was the "Hi There!" bomb. This episode, however, was hit with the "Dear John" bomb. We see all of the characters figure out everything is useless and they are worthless. They are only offered with pity as they are just copies of their true selves. They know they are copies, they are faced with the idea that they can't return, and all their efforts were pointless.

I might be thinking too much into this but, to shorten up the characters are powerless. They are just copies and a part of a choice of the principal. They had an illusion of the end light at a tunnel. Yet, when they faced this light with Nozomi's powers, it was false. She is dead in the real world and, the characters find out they are copies. And just as the ending of Dr. Strangelove using the song "We'll meet again" over a montage of bombs destroying the planet, they might have to say goodbye to their world. I could be wrong about all of this but, I hope my rambling cleared up something even if I don't fully understand the show. I look forward to the next episode I hope it's as great as this one.


I don't think too many people caught it, but as soon as I saw him I was like "oh shit these people are Kubrick fans we will never understand this". ;P

he even has the fake hand
@MenchiK1

FINALLY somebody who got the reference. I'm impressed how almost nobody had a clue about the very Dr. Strangelove being the God/Principal lol.

And this was not the only book/movie reference of this show. I'm pretty sure the 1st episode had a bit of inspiration in Stephen King's The Langoliers.
Sep 19, 2023 7:04 PM
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I am having to stop and rewind and replay and stop and think and rewind and replay and reference other episodes. Really trying to absorb the message in this, and this episode was heavy for that.
Oct 3, 2023 7:40 AM

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If Nagara's power is creating new worlds, can we really be sure that the "original" world is indeed the original rather than just another creation?
Nice mid-series "revelation", but I doubt cards needed to be reshuffled when so little has been established already.

4/5


@St0rmblade I was wondering the same thing. (Add to that the fact they "edit" their way into the supposedly real world.
Nov 8, 2023 10:59 AM

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So aki looks like a another student who can change their body a guess?
This episode evrybody lost what they believed is real and what they trust in someway or another
Feb 18, 2024 4:13 PM

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I thought they always teleport to the next world together, but them beeing apart in totally different scenarios implies the opposite.

Something about this show makes me feel like I missed an episode, but unlike other shows with wonky pacing, it happens even in the middle of watching an episode.

Its interesting but I cant say that I actually enjoy it to be honest.
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It is for Madoka alone." - Homura
or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica.
Mar 18, 2024 6:49 PM
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this ep experience was so nice. It's really confusing, but I enjoyed it somehow
Jun 11, 2024 9:06 PM

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What!? haha this is so good, can't stop watching.
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Aug 12, 2024 4:27 PM

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A stranger in a wheelchair . A theater that projects his point of view . The first world that is capable of making another. She has set up a camp. She madea Costco. A dog that loves chocolate. He used to be human. Lots of people before him have tried to go back, but none have pulled it off. Young people are supposed to keep on trying no matter what. And they are currently inside the light. He is here from the future. He came here 5000 years ago and entered after them. They are observing footage from the future. They spliced in the monkey mountain. He determines if the world will change. The ones to worry about are those who defy God. They can’t play the footage backwards. they will do their own directors cut of themselves and this world. It’s fine that they can’t change the past because they can do whatever they want with the future. it may all be sitting in stone. It may be predetermined, but he is not going to accept that. It’s not really much of a life to always take the safe option. There’s an element of chance involved as to whether the world will change. Only things that can happen will happen. They claimed the principal is God. It’s just a coincidence who got happened to be. The purpose of the ark is for unity. God is speaking through him. Why only do what God tells you to. They are on their way to graduation. A person who isn’t possible. He is driving the ark. The film is being edited. The world really has changed. She was right all along. They return but something isn’t right. He sees himself. He did not create a world. He is just an observer. Who has opened a box of possibilities. They are all just copies. They weren’t chosen they were duplicated. They weren’t going to drift. It was all just God rolling the dice. They got close. She was dead. She saw her funeral. This is quite incredible so far. 5
Oct 18, 2024 1:56 AM
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Eh? What the hell is going on here, I'm getting even more confused with each episode. Throwing random bullshit at every corner is not cutting it for me, or maybe I'm just too dumb to understand what the fuck is even happening in this anime.

It's not a bad anime (yet), but this is so far a 7/10 anime, the rating is fluctuating so it can either go down or go up but so far this anime hasn't done anything to make me go "wow" or anything of the sort, I'm just like, "meh, ok what's next?", this anime is trying too hard to be intellectual or something but it's just not hitting it for me, I'm a fan of Sci-fi and Time Travel, it's my jam if they are done correctly like Steins;Gate did, but this anime throws random magical bullshit every time and it's getting tiresome.
Oct 27, 2024 5:03 AM

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this anime is just stupid crazy creation without any rules or sense...
author just puts anything that comes to his mind and tries to make it work...
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ ちゅっ ちゅっ キス (´。✪ω✪。`)

I hate it when anime/manga that I enjoyed ends, especially when there could be much longer plot and when I love main heroine :P

I wish I had magic glasses that let me see real world in anime colors ;)
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