Overlord II Episode 9 Discussion

Demonneo said:
1 - You are free to dislike the new way Overlord does stuff. That's not the point. However, in every single episode thread you have people warning you guys that the anime will be like this from now on, yet you still complain about the same bs everytime even tho you know exactly how the plot works now. It's like constantly crying in the whole new seasons of Jojo because the Hamon technique was replaced by the Stands..lol.

It's pointless because it's not going to change no matter how high your salt levels are or if you like or dislike the change.

2- What you dislike in this anime is what other people find unique and interesting to watch.

Seeing the reaction from other chars to the anomaly called Nazarick and getting to know a little bit about that world's lore by their point of view is what sets Overlord apart from other isekai.

If i wanted to see OP chars stomping noobs in every single episode i would watch Mahouka or any other seasonal isekai anime.

3- This season was made especially for the LN readers.

According to the author's note in episode 1, this only happened because of their support. I'm no LN reader, but it's rather annoying seeing people complaining about the very essence of the show instead of actually discussing the episode itself. So yeah, maybe that explains why some folks are angry at posts like yours in every single Overlord thread! It's like me complaining about DBSuper powerlevels in all of it's 129 episodes. It's annoying!

joe_g7 said:

Well, Overlord has chosen the shittiest way possible to build its world.

Saying that the second season of an anime would ignore it's anime fanbase for it's smaller LN fanbase is pure and utter bullshit.

rifando said:
I'm not particularly happy with how they have brought the light novel to the screen. Frankly, Sebas was much cooler in my mind than what they show here: The way that he removed the door, or the way he was taking out people in the mansion could have been shown in a much cooler way. Instead, they used the most boring shots possible with the exception of crushing that asshole in the room.

The way that they show the fights, both in this episode and the last are missing tension. Climb's fights should have been more tense as he's much more a regular human being. Even when there is an overwhelming difference in power, there should be more tension and fear as we see people confronted with a monstrous power. They failed to show this, just showing Sebas's eyes glowing for a moment when making his entrance.

Finally, why end on Renner's face as a cliffhanger, when it would have been better to end with Sebas at the door? I feel like the anime writers/producers really took a poor approach to this whole adaptation, perhaps out of indifference or incompetence.

joe_g7 said:
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joe_g7 said:
Actually the "warnings" have been a mix of "it's gonna get better" and "it's world-building". So, no, a constant red flag hasn't been flashed in front of my face like you assume it has.

I'm just gonna ignore this, ok? Too many retarded vibes coming from this.

So? This can be literally said for every anime ever created. From Steins Gate to Boku no Pico.

Well, Overlord has chosen the shittiest way possible to build its world.

Does this have to be user by everyone that replies to me? Even after I've said that's not my problem?

This is bullshit, and you know it just as well as I do. Saying that the second season of an anime would ignore it's anime fanbase for it's smaller LN fanbase is pure and utter bullshit.

Well, when the very essence of the show is rotten, you can't just roll over, right?
Overlord isn't 129 episodes long though, just 13. Plus its not like I'm binging it. Trust me if I was binging it, you wouldn't see me almost at all on the forums, but when you wait an entire week for the next episode, and it disappoints you this much, you will be angry and you will want people to know. Regardless of their "annoyance".

Daniel_Naumov said:


That's why I think we won't see anime adaptation of Re:Monster or the other one with the Slime! sadly :/

dantex11 said:


That's why I think we won't see anime adaptation of Re:Monster or the other one with the Slime! sadly :/

Dipdebbarma said:

Ikr that's wat happens when u try to cover up 2 volumes under 13 episodes.
Why can't they just make like 24 eps or so.

Djidji said:

You meant this one?

joe_g7 said:
Actually the "warnings" have been a mix of "it's gonna get better" and "it's world-building". So, no, a constant red flag hasn't been flashed in front of my face like you assume it has.

I'm just gonna ignore this, ok? Too many retarded vibes coming from this.

So? This can be literally said for every anime ever created. From Steins Gate to Boku no Pico.

Well, Overlord has chosen the shittiest way possible to build its world.

Does this have to be user by everyone that replies to me? Even after I've said that's not my problem?

This is bullshit, and you know it just as well as I do. Saying that the second season of an anime would ignore it's anime fanbase for it's smaller LN fanbase is pure and utter bullshit.

Well, when the very essence of the show is rotten, you can't just roll over, right?
Overlord isn't 129 episodes long though, just 13. Plus its not like I'm binging it. Trust me if I was binging it, you wouldn't see me almost at all on the forums, but when you wait an entire week for the next episode, and it disappoints you this much, you will be angry and you will want people to know. Regardless of their "annoyance".

Demonneo said:


Dude, i already know you find it shitty. That's my point. Everyone already knows that a big chunk of the anime fanbase dislike the new way Overlord builds it's world. Keeping saying the same shit in every single episode is pointless and annoying. That's what is retarded. Not me for calling up on your bs. And no, the "it will get better" was in relation to the Lizard Arc that is considered the weakest among the LN readers, however you had constant warnings that the story telling would shift from Ainz to the pov of the people from Overlord's world, so stop pretending otherwise.
Also, this season being made for LN readers is not my opinion. It was stated by the author himself. It was only possible because of the fans that actually spent money on this title. You should know by now that LN anime adaptations only exist to promote said LNs. That's why you have tons of crappy rushed 13 episode anime that will never have an ending for the most part, because only the original source matters. Anime these days is a shitty medium to follow. Stuff like what happened to Boku no Hero Academia or Jojo is a rarity.

Princess Renner said:
"—I’ll kill her.
—I’ll kill this maid too.
—I’ll kill anyone who looks down on my Climb." (her thoughts)

dantex11 said:
then you don’t deserve to be a fan of overlord. just like many people, you all have the wrong impression on overlord due to season 1 since it had more focus on ainz stomping on everyone. Overlord is NOT about that. why can’t you mindless action-obsessed people who only care about one sided massacre from op MCs understand the concept of world building? jesus christ the anime-only fans of the overlord community is fucking cancer

kyled00m said:
One of my favorite quotes from the LN happened.I honestly expected more. The line sounded yandere-ish but her tone didn't give me a yandere-feel to it. It lacked a heaping pile of insanity I expect form yanderes.

Janethan23 said:
She's trying to keep her insanity in check while projecting her princess persona. Not all yanderes should be a clumsy screaming lunatic.

Danpmss said:


Yeah, Lord of the Rings in particular is complete garbage. Screw that kind of worldbuilding, right?

le_halfhand_easy said:


What's Middle Earth got to do with any of this?

Danpmss said:


We are talking about the storytelling and presentation, not comparing the stories.

At least pay attention to the subject.

le_halfhand_easy said:

What's Middle Earth got to do with any of this? Are you comparing the Overlord LN's world-building to Middle Earth and claim it's the same? Because execution matters. Two works can inundate their story with details and one story can still come on top because of how it does it.

J_LEE_C said:
Anyone heard any word/found Episode 9 of Overlord Ple Ple Pleiades 2 yet? Normally out by now every week...but I haven't seen any sign of it as of now.

Danpmss said:


I see, you edited then.

It's very similar in approach, and multiple perspective presentation of numerous kinds of plot devices related to specific characters and/or their interactions with other selected characters in order to introduce a concept and/or expand and enrich story elements regarding their own motivations and connections is a great way to further explore the world building and properly characterize the involved characters at the same time.

Lord of the Rings does this with much more focus in creating an absurdly big level of depth for its own world.

Overlord in other hand, handles its own lore elements in a more light and superficial way, mostly giving foreshadowing for future introductions that introduces more stuff later on. While it isn't as profound or well written as a masterpiece like LotR, it does share the same building structure, and in an exceptionally well executed and detailed way (although a bit... too light in significant core elements, instead focusing more in several crossing conflicts within the cast).

An element unfortunately lost in the anime adaptation ever since the third book adaptation, especially in the Lizardmen arc. This arc seems to be going in the very same messy/convoluted direction, although this episode was fairly well played overall.

If you read my biggest comment in this thread just earlier, I talked a lot about the execution regarding the whole thing btw.

Daniel_Naumov said:

What is it even? I keep seeing it at "ongoing", yet refuse to waste my time on it. Is it a flavour-sketch for kiddies?

gophercg said:
I still don't see why all the hate for Climb. He's hardworking & earnest. Maybe dense but loyal. Even with 'no talent', he's improved, more martial arts skills, got a few hits in.
lol Sebas not a hardened killer, proceeds to blow that dude's guts out.
Finally a real yandere that acts for her lover.

amlg said:
Fucc Yanderes, and not the good kind of Fucc.

And it's almost always the cutest girl that's Yandere... I have no idea why it's always like this.

Poor Climb has no idea her true nature, even tho he's been literally risking his life all the time for her. (well, not really "for for" her, but rather he makes everything he do seems like he's doing it "for" her)

___ ___ ___

Putting that aside, we got to see more Badassness from Sebas. Classy badass, smoothly completing his objectives.

Also, LOL @ Solution, she looks so mad at Sebas. (it feels like she's Jelly of the girl Sebas rescued)

Not_Important said:
Bah, this thread is pure cancer, holy shit.

In all fairness though, this season is mediocre at best and it's rushed af. It's making me want to read the LN, but it's not licensed in my country and after it got licensed by Yen Press every freaking site out there decided to abandon the series.

If anyone could give me any pointers on where I can find the LN I'd really apreciate it.

Not_Important said:
Bah, this thread is pure cancer, holy shit.

In all fairness though, this season is mediocre at best and it's rushed af. It's making me want to read the LN, but it's not licensed in my country and after it got licensed by Yen Press every freaking site out there decided to abandon the series.

Low_Ki said:


If anything I think the show is too decompressed. It ignored the main cast for a long time and dumped a dozen new characters in each episode. We only now started seeing the threads be joined with only 4 episodes left. Overall Overlord isn't bad, but the execution is really bad considering the sheer amount of largely infodump material they're adapting into two relatively short seasons.

Feels like the author has writers block and is throwing as many ideas into the wall to see what stocks together. Which is a really bad trend with most LN writers. Guess this is what you're in for when you pull rando amateurs writing fanfic's off the internet and give them a job because they got the right idea and concept at the start. An unverified quote for a professional editor actually sprang up last month that claims most of these guys can't write in the first place and they give up midway through so the companies that snapped up the rights use their in-house guys to continue it for the $.

I'm not knocking LN's or their authors as a whole, there's some literal gold in indie printed and online stuff if you want to dig through it. But the publishers are milking this boom way too hard by printing everything they can with just as much emphasis in adapting so much to anime form.

Darklight0303 said:

If you actually read Maruyama's afterwords you would quickly realize writer's block is the LAST thing he has.

joe_g7 said:
@Danpmss The author said he wanted to thank the LN readers with S2, it doesn't mean that S2 was special-made for them. Authors have little to no say in their adaptations, and that little message was basically a 'thank you'. Like how book authors include "I dedicate this book to my mother/father/aunt", yet it doesn't mean they made it just for those people exclusively.

@Demonneo Call me a pool of negativity or a thick-headed optimist, but I'm still thinking Overlord will get better.
You sound pretty sure that I've been "warned" about everything, are you a stalker or something??
For your second point, read my response above.

@Tamikus Well, I don't meet shit eaters like you often either. And right back at ya, when you dislike someone's opinion, just stfu >.>

@dantex11 We are talking about the anime here you dipshit, not the LN and how it "always was" or wasn't. The theme and focus of the ANIME have changed from S1 to S2. And your knowledge of LN doesn't make a shit's difference for those that have only watched the anime and are taken aback by this change.
20 mins per week + 1-2 mins to write down my opinion, comes to 22 minutes depending on the situation, and well, 22 minutes once a week isn't really what I'd call a "waste of time", it's barely any time at all. And people keep replying to me, I can't just leave them hanging now, can I?

EDIT: I forgot to mention it, but I post on every episode discussion of every title I follow weekly, regardless whether it's good, average, or bad. I've done the same for all the shows I watch from this season, FranXX, Gintama, Nanatsu, Saiki, Killing Bites, and Overlord II. Overlord just happens to be one of the bad ones. So get rid of the misconception that I'm here every week just to hate on Overlord when I was praising and enjoying it just a couple episodes ago.

StasaTank said:


thank god we’re getting an adaptation of tate no yuusha hopefully around this year

joe_g7 said:
@Danpmss The author said he wanted to thank the LN readers with S2, it doesn't mean that S2 was special-made for them. Authors have little to no say in their adaptations, and that little message was basically a 'thank you'. Like how book authors include "I dedicate this book to my mother/father/aunt", yet it doesn't mean they made it just for those people exclusively.

@Demonneo Call me a pool of negativity or a thick-headed optimist, but I'm still thinking Overlord will get better.
You sound pretty sure that I've been "warned" about everything, are you a stalker or something??
For your second point, read my response above.

Demonneo said:
You must be trolling me right? Stalker? You are the one that said you come here every single episode and in every single episode you have comments from LN readers telling everybody how stuff works from now on.

Unless you only post here without reading some of the already existing comments, then yes, you had tons of warnings.

And you keep missing the point.