Tokyo Ghoul √A Episode 7 Discussion

Z4k said:

Yeah it happened in the episode but they didn't show it. Seems to me your reading comprehension is terrible because I said they didn't show it.

Z4k said:

The anime won't spoonfeed you the answers and the scene clearly implied and hinted it was Takatsuki who gave out information about anteiku which was obviously ghoul related otherwise Shinohara would never have been that suspicious. It DID happen in the anime but if you're waiting for them to straight out tell you the answers then you'll be sorely be disappointed.

Chikamtsu said:
Basically you're telling us that something happened but never happened. Don't try to confuse everyone, if it hasn't happened it hasn't happened. You spoiled the anime and you're still talking nonsense.

Chikamtsu said:
You see, the problem is that as i said before you are making assumptions and spoiling the anime while I'm talking of what i saw.

Chikamtsu said:
To put in a nutshell, you are making assumptions ? And yet you told me you weren't.
Know that what i said before wasn't assumptions.

Chikamtsu said:
I am deeply sorry but you must admit that this episode did not give us any information, because what you are saying from the beginning is that they are trying to show us few information that we can make assumptions. It means that something is going to happen, but hasn't happen, true ?

Chikamtsu said:
What i'm saying is that:

1) This episode has a big lack of information.

Chikamtsu said:
2) There's no fight, no argue (except the one at the end but almost useless).

Chikamtsu said:
3) Takatsuki who went interview investigators,was just asking for their names (please once again don't make assumption.

Chikamtsu said:
And i did not read the manga but I'm watching this anime since the first season has been released. So it's not that I'm disappointed by the whole anime but more that I'm disappointed by most of the second season's episodes.

Z4k said:
Opinions are like assholes.

Everyone has them.

Z4k said:
Opinions are like assholes.

Everyone has them.

Z4k said:

I can accuse you for the same thing. You were stating things that had never happened and I was just going out of my way to correct you.

Z4k said:

It has happened but not onscreen.

Z4k said:

This isn't a battleshounen.

Z4k said:

And she gave out information about anteiku on purpose which convinced Shinohara's suspicions. Otherwise he would have never wasted his time visiting some random coffee shop just because of some rumor.

Chikamtsu said:
[How on earth i spoiled anything ? Stop reversing roles please. Since i did not read the manga i can't spoil anything, and even more, i did not make any assumptions, and even even more, i did never talk about the next episode, you are the one who talked about the incoming episodes.

Chikamtsu said:
... So basically it's an assumptions, isn't it ? It can be either true or false ? It's not guaranteed to be true.

Chikamtsu said:
So you did agree that it was not the purpose of this episode to give us information.

Chikamtsu said:
I never asked for that, it was a way to say that basically nothing special happened.

Chikamtsu said:
What information ?

Chikamtsu said:
She just said that there was an a coffee in the 20th ward, so what ?

Chikamtsu said:
You read the manga and you're spoiling, you're not even making assumptions, you're spoiling us the end of the anime (even if it's a little bit it's spoiling).

Chikamtsu said:
I don't think we'll ever be in agreement to 100%, so basically, here's my questions:

Can you agree with the fact that:

1) This episode change less the history than the other ones ?

Chikamtsu said:
2) Assumptions can either be true or false ?

Chikamtsu said:
3) I never talked about was going on but what was already happened ?

Chikamtsu said:
4) I don't dislike the whole series so I'm not an haters.

Chikamtsu said:
5) Assumptions are like opinions ?

Chikamtsu said:
6) I explained why i was disappointed by this episode so it's not just disappointing but it's disappointing because[...] ?

Z4k said:

lol stop trying to be stupid on purpose because I never posted any spoiler. Even the title for the next episode(Old Nine) hinted what's about to happen.

Z4k said:

Did I say I accused you for spoiling things? I'm not reversing anything because I just said I could accuse you for stating things that never happened which is Kaneki asking to return.

Z4k said:

Its guaranteed to happen because I know which chapter they're adapting.

Z4k said:

It did have information but that wasn't the main point of the episode. Maybe if you paid a little attention then you might have noticed them instead of posting baseless things

Z4k said:

Which is your opinion.

Z4k said:

Rumors about ghouls in anteiku. It was heavily implied and not that hard to notice.

Z4k said:

Do you honestly think Shinohara would waste his time to go all the way to visit a random coffee shop just for a drink?

Z4k said:

lol stop trying to be stupid on purpose because I never posted any spoiler. Even the title for the next episode(Old Nine) hinted what's about to happen.

Z4k said:

How is this even relevant to the discussion?

Z4k said:

You were disappointed because you judged this episode incorrectly. To me what your post obviously meant was that this episode was a waste of time which had nothing important.

Chikamtsu said:
You did, since you said that you could (don't play with words) accuse me for the same thing.
And it can be a spoil because it happens in this episode, Kaneki said that the old man ask him to return. So basically we know that they both were talking about his return.

Chikamtsu said:
Once again you're not talking about the manga, are you ? ...

Chikamtsu said:
You're just saying that I'm wrong without adding anything else, how is telling us that it was not the main point relevant ?

Chikamtsu said:
You're the one who think that everything you're saying is 100% true.
I gave my opinion and you're trying from the beginning to tell me what is wrong or true while I'm just giving my opinion with arguments.

Chikamtsu said:
Wrong, she asked him if he knew about the coffee in the 20th ward.

Chikamtsu said:
No, she did not talk about them having a coffee party, in the same way that she did not talk about ghouls. -> assumptions

Chikamtsu said:
Old nine ?? OH, you're right, every is clear now ! No, in fact you read the manga and you're saying I'm stupid because i don't understand what "old nine" mean.
I can't blame you since i can't erase your memory and re-ask you the same question.

Chikamtsu said:
It is ! Since you're either spoiling or making assumptions from the beginning.

Chikamtsu said:
Excuse me, you're trying you're right and if you're right no one can be right if he's not saying the same thing as you ? First, i never said it was a waste of time, i said that i was disappointed, it means that i was expecting way more of this episode. You're once again making assumptions, if you can't understand that you should stop thinking and start watching.

Chikamtsu said:
In one word : Disappointing.

Disappointing because of his lack of information, first there's a lot of unnecessary scenes, we have Tsukiyama (the guys who's been defeated by Kaneki) doing his usual ritual, secondly there is that girl called Ms. Taskatsuki trying to convince Hinami that if she is not strong enough she won't be able to help Kaneki (his "big brother") then she went to CGG to interview an investigator and once again, we'll learn nothing.

Z4k said:

I was accusing you for saying something that didn't happen in the anime. Like I said 3-4 posts earlier its not my fault you have a poor reading comprehension. All of this could have been avoided if you read carefully.

Z4k said:

Next episode's title is from the manga.

Z4k said:

I did add things but you brush them off without even trying to read them properly and in return you're forcing me to repeat myself again and again. All I see is you twisting my words in your favor. It doesn't matter whether giving information was the main point of the episode or not because this was clearly a setup episode for the next arc.

Z4k said:

Because I'm basing my arguments based on facts which is from the manga and not on vague statements.

Z4k said:

Pay more attention to the dialogues next time.

Z4k said:

She did otherwise Shinohara would have never have had doubt regarding Yoshimura.

Z4k said:

How do you know I've spoiled something when you've never read the manga and have no idea what's going on there?

Z4k said:

You're twisting my words. Pls stahp

I said your original post clearly implied nothing important happened:

Z4k said:

What do u mean "so what? do you have any bit of common sense in that stupid head of yours? I proved you wrong by posting evidence about her giving information to Shinohara. What else do you think that rumor was? Seriously use your brain for once Goddamnit...

Chikamtsu said:

You did not prove anything, you posted an image with written on it the exact same thing as i said except the last part about a rumor (a rumor that is not yet explained).
And please stop talking about things that doesn't exist elsewhere than in your head.

Maledict said:
Pretty meh episode overall, but Tsukiyama having screentime automatically makes it a 4/5. Shinohara pretty much knows who Yoshimura is after meeting him, so Anteiku's days are numbered. Love how oblivious Juuzo is to everything.

And... the bridge encounter finally happened. At least it's over with now, but that scene is the main reason for my hatred of Touka. Seriously, 10 minutes later: "Maybe i shouldn't have lashed out at him...''. Lol, you think? Who knows, hopefully there's a small chance that, since the anime is an alternate route, at the end she'll actually... uhh, nevermind. No spoilers...

The anime is following the manga very closely, don't understand what was the need of making Kaneki go over to Aogiri, it did nothing but shorten his screentime by 90%. Figures Kaneki's conversation with Yoshimura would get skipped, though...

I love Tsukiyama.

4/5

zanearaki said:


What chapter the bridge scene is on manga? I'm dying to read it.

elros75 said:
I don't get it kaneki has been eating other ghouls off screen? They're skipping too much it's confusing.

elros75 said:
I don't get it kaneki has been eating other ghouls off screen? They're skipping too much it's confusing.

Chikamtsu said:

He at least ->probably<- ate Yakumo and he ate pieces of the Yukinori's Quinque.

In order to become a kakujas he need to eat cannibalized ghouls (if that's what he wants).

But yes, you're right, they're skipping too much scenes.

elros75 said:


Alright thanks for the information, it's weird this season feels way too fast and yet nothing seems to be moving forward towards a clear goal, it's like they're trying to rush to a particular point skipping tons of stuff despite the fact that it's an anime route and not the manga and it sucks because some scenes are really getting to me.
I just wish it was 24 episodes instead especially considering how popular both the manga and the anime are.

elros75 said:

Alright thanks for the information, it's weird this season feels way too fast and yet nothing seems to be moving forward towards a clear goal, it's like they're trying to rush to a particular point skipping tons of stuff despite the fact that it's an anime route and not the manga and it sucks because some scenes are really getting to me.
I just wish it was 24 episodes instead especially considering how popular both the manga and the anime are.

RaKana said:
Was that because of me or was the bridge scene damn badly animated ?

bittersweetlove said:
Many things happened in this one, Hiname realized that she is in love with 'onii-chan' and that Touka might feel the same as well.
OMG Tsukiyama had a orgasm with Kaneki's smell lol
Now Sen gave Shinohara many hints, I guess they never thought about the artificial ghouls and told about the coffee, good move...

i doubt that. i think hinami realized touka is in love with his onii chan.

Kvothe51 said:


They hardly showed any more Kaneki cannibalism in the manga.

radionoise said:

I think the scene where he was meant to be eating them was censored as it was rather dark, even when there were meant to be close up on kanekis face

Chikamtsu said:

What do you mean by "censored" ?

elros75 said:
I don't get it kaneki has been eating other ghouls off screen? They're skipping too much it's confusing.

ftsyzc said:
i doubt that. i think hinami realized touka is in love with his onii chan.

Maledict said:

What's there not to get? Yes, he has been eating other ghouls, as Tsukiyama said in this episode, and it was pretty much shown how he eats ghouls after he got wrecked by Shachi. They aren't skipping anything regarding Kaneki's cannibalism, since it was off-screen in the manga as well. Besides Tsukiyama noting what Kaneki's been eating, the only other time it was clearly mentioned in the manga was him cannibalizing the entire ghoul restaurant (not really a spoiler, since it seems this won't get animated).

Maledict said:

No... Hinami already realized this when she was talking to Nishiki. It was her conversation with Tsukiyama that confirmed she also likes Kaneki romantically (at least in the anime).

Chikamtsu said:
That's your opinion, we have ours.

Chikamtsu said:
They skipped the scene when he was probably eating pieces of Yakumo.

Chikamtsu said:
Since when Off-Screen doesn't mean skipping scenes ? We're not saying that they should not skip scenes but they are skipping too much* scenes. It's not the same thing.

Chikamtsu said:
That's your opinion, we have ours.

Kvothe51 said:
I'm sorry, I really don't want to go down this road again, but in said scene Nishiki explained certain things people do when they're in love with someone, and then Hinami recalled Touka doing those exact this for Kaneki.

Maledict said:



I think you read it wrong, Kvothe. The argument is about Hinami liking Kaneki as well, not Touka. One would have to lack a brain to not figure out Touka's in love after Nishiki's explanation and Hinami's flashback.

ftsyzc said:
pff, actually i doubted hinami realized she loved kaneki but i didnt want to believe. and if she realized her love to kaneki, why did she recall touka FIRST as soon as she heard kaneki was at anteiku??

whatever. there is no such a thing in manga, so i choose not to think hinami loves kaneki.

Maledict said:

Which scene? You mean the one Season 1 pretty much left on, that scene? Are you saying people forgot Kaneki's declaration that he'd eat Jason, his mouth covering the entire screen, ending the first season?

Maledict said:
Lol. Off-screen means there were no actual scenes. How the hell can an anime skip scenes that weren't in the manga to begin with?

As i've said, the only thing they've skipped is literally a page where there are a bunch of ghoul corpses illustrated, and it's explained Kaneki has cannibalized ever since the events at Aogiri's base, which is pretty much what they explained in this episode and hinted at in previous. Where the hell are these ''too much scenes'' they are skipping from the manga? Maybe provide pages?

You guys are simply looking for faults in this show for the sake of having them..

Maledict said:

How exactly is it my opinion when Hinami already realized Touka might love him back when she talked to Nishiki? How is it my opinion when after that Tsukiyama talked about ''first love'' with a 14-year old girl and afterwards mentioned ''true love'' while Hinami just blushed at both of those exclamations, not to mention that closeup on her eye.

He's/you're basically saying Hinami is embarrassed and blushing in Touka's stead which sounds stupid and very implausible.

That's not your opinion, that's selective watching. But alright, if you want to keep believing it that's fine - not my business to try and dissuade you.

Foltres said:
i want to see this season but first i want to know if it has censorship? to see if i wait for BDs or not

Ty ^^