Tokyo Ghoul Episode 12 Discussion

Tokoya said:
I read all of the manga last week and I saw how they messed up this series a lot, but from a manga reader perspective, this episode isn't as bad as some of you are making it out to be. In fact thy handled it very well and did White Hair Kaneki justice by showing how it all happened

Yeah they left out tons of information like the info on the different ghoul types as well as info on Kakuja'so but even so it was still good

I didn't like Kaneki up until this point in the series and I really waned to see this animated and Studio Pierrot did an amazing job with it

5/5 episode for me

If I rate this series from a manga reader point of view, this gets a 6/10 but from an anima only point of view I'm giving this an 8/10 because even though it was clearly rushed, it was still pretty damn good visually, the music was great and it was very enjoyable to watch...The censorship was terrible tho

Armbanana said:
>mfw the people that complain on the forums and rate it an 4/10

Kaoknight said:


The main problem is that many people see this anime as a part of the manga but anime adaptions should be judged stand alone without having to defend it with the source material. This probably wont get a second season since it really feels like its only there to promote the comic and its understandable why people are not satisfied with a cliff hang.

The dream sequence was nessesary for kens character dev but it took way too much time for the last ep.

Saniest said:
good episode, bad adaptation. i was really afraid of how the anime was going to end (actually i was afraid since i saw the pacing itself) but i think the cliffhanger end is better than a rushed end. Although i would really like to see the entire arc animated.
Will give it a 7/10 bcs of the ost, art and shiro kaneki

Armbanana said:
>mfw the people that complain on the forums and rate it an 4/10

trannon1 said:


There is actually a perfect ending spot though, the part where Amon sees Kaneki leaving the Aogiri building and when Kaneki says goodbye to the people of Anteiku. That was the perfect spot at ending, and they could have done it if they tried for a 25 episode season.

parfaited said:
Wow this was actually leagues better than what I expected. Granted my expectations were zero but still.
Definitely filled in gaps from the dreadful 11th episode.
Rize/Kaneki dialogue felt a bit dragged out for my liking but it did its job by padding for time.
Incomplete endings are a pain but I don't really see where else this could have stopped.
Not enough time to get anywhere else at least nowhere else substantial.

moonahn said:


This is exactly where I wanted it to end if it was 25 episodes long.

trannon1 said:
Please look at the post above you describing the best possible ending spot for the anime.

parfaited said:

Well don't you think that would have required at least another episode?
If the pacing wasn't so skewed both in rushing and dragging out parts we could have gotten there but we didn't. This show did not let itself have good pacing.

BeatzMe said:
Would have needed abysmally slow pacing for that to happen, tho. As rushed as this adaptation was, covering the same amount in 25 episodes sounds a little to slow, imo. Then again, everything better than rushing it.

trannon1 said:


If they didn't cut out a lot of the materials, this show could easily last 25 episodes, by lengthening some action sequences. Kaneki's torture of Ayato, hell, Owl's fight could go on for a few episodes on its own.

Darklight0303 said:


Guess what. When you label a series as an ADAPTATION, you automatically open yourself up to comparisons to the source. Lobbying for them to be judged on their own is plain stupid.

Kaoknight said:
I already read the manga but it should be obvious that anime only watchers see it by itself.

Tendou-kun said:
This anime was way overhyped. The first episode was very promising but it couldn't keep the high expectations. The last episode was strange and I don't like it that he has now all the super powers because he has white hair. It's just like Son-Goku being stronger because he has blonde hair :(

Anon1409 said:
Haha, what a waste :D
I'd nominate this for the worst anime 2014
2/10

BeatzMe said:


And nobody is stopping the anime-only watchers from doing so. Just as it should be okay for manga readers to compare and point out flaws that could easily have been avoided.

SmilingBeginner said:
Ughhhh....the cliffhanger...

for manga readers, which chapter do I need to start picking up after finishing ep 12?


Although if this adaptation is truly as bad as some manga readers said (I need confirmations from more people) , then I might consider start from chapter 1.

NeutralSide said:
Need more Badass Kaneki.