Spiderfreak1011 said:Yaakuntik said:
I understand. I don't agree however. I think the storey was well written and thought out. Every character was used, even at the end they don't forget about the very minor fake heroes and they had a role to play.
There were no random power ups, all the power ups were explained and the heroes had to work hard to learn new spells/moves/techniques.
All the people that came back from being "dead" had a reason to come back and they explained how they came back ina way which made sense.
As far as characters being likeable or not, it's a matter of taste but for me personally, no character was so bad that made me hate them. Even among the villains, Zaboera was one of those characters that everyone seemed to hate but that was how it was supposed to be.
I think maybe you are judging this applying standards of the real world and real life we live in. Sure, in our reality, a "villain" or rather a bad person may not stand around and let you talk to your friends, if they want to kill you they might just shoot you and your friends right away. But don't forget this is a fantasy, and we are talking about beings that have powers beyond all human comprehension. They feel they have so much power that no one can stop them so of course they don't care if people talk for a bit or even they will stand and boast about their power because they are so sure of their victory. This happens even in movies, Avengers for example, Thanos was also like that, but that didn't stop most people from liking those movies.
For me this was an improvement from the original anime, not just in the animation but everything else. And the story itself was well written, the characters had a lot of growth and some of them had amazing development unlike in most me modern anime where a lot of the time characters do suffer from lack of development and the writers do give them random power ups that seem to come from nowhere.
And as far as some characters not having an important role, I think you mentioned Crocodine. Well did you forget he saved them more than a couple of times, like when he saved Hyunckel from burning under the lava, when he rescued Dai from Mystvearn and Zaboera, when he buried them all to save them from the Black Core explosion. And he was key in defeating the royal guard because with his move he got the shield off from Sigma. The poor guy did all he could with what power he had. It's just that towards the end, he was probably one of the weakest ones in the group so he couldn't do as much to help. It wouldn't have made sense for him to have had a major role in defeating Vearn.
So again, I hear your point but I don't agree with it all. But it is what it is, some people watch this anime and see what you see, and some people see what I see. I guess it all depends on what standards you apply to it.
I agree completely! Unlike most shonen, Dai actually gives most of the characters justice and keeps all the main party members relevant all the way to the very end. Most shonen just shaft almost everyone long before the end, except for like the main character and maybe one or two other characters.
Like you said, there's so many moments where Dai would've been killed if his friends hadn't helped. Sure, they can't all fight toe to toe on his skill level, but the anime makes a point that even if they can't be the power house that Dai is, they have other roles to play that are equally important in the long run. I did feel Crocodine gets a bit shafted near the end but like you said, it made sense since he couldn't keep up. Honestly makes me wish the Makai/Underworld arc did get written since he was gonna get a bigger role in that from what people were saying, but I still think his arc was complete by the end and done well regardless.
I also do appreciate that all the power ups felt earned/well explained as well, unlike most shonen where there are a lot of asspulls, Dai really didn't have that, it all lined up with the consistent logic that was established in this world from beginning to end. And of course, the character writing was top notch, definitely some of the best I've seen in the genre period (especially the likes of Popp and Hadlar, though my personal favs. are Popp, Dai and Crocodine).
I'm bummed that Dai is very underappreciated (and even misunderstood in terms of what it achieves compared to most other shonen, as tons of people in this thread have shown), but I'm always happy to see the people who can appreciate the amazing top notch writing in it like you good sir. Hats off to you, fellow disciple of Avan!
Edit: Lol, unintentional but I ended up being post 100 for the 100th episode discussion, woo!