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Nov 14, 2013 8:59 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Hell ya, go Akira!

I thought the latest episode was okay. Well, Saki is still stuck there. I wasn't expecting Haruto to have a reunion with his dad. His character wasn't the person I'd thought he'd be though. Haruto is not proud at least.

Dat reunion. I think L-Elf has a lot to say.
Nov 14, 2013 9:08 AM
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The reunion between L-Elf and Lieselotte makes up for H-Neun's death last week. Not completely but still. Now I feel like crying from joy.
Nov 14, 2013 9:45 AM
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Haruto's dad seriously freaked me out. He will get the title Worst Dad of The Year. I'm glad that Haruto punched the bastard.

So much information was given this episode. Haxed L-elf vs. three attack helicopters; and we got to know his real name. The meeting in the end with Lieselotte was done beautifully.

No Shouko in this episode ;_;
Nov 14, 2013 10:00 AM
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Looks like that lady that Elf thinks has something in her mind. So Elf's real name is Michael? He finally met her again. Wow, main guy's father's truth (about being the leader of the project to create Valvrave and the pilotes). Now he and his father are enemies.

Idol girl eventually been found out next ep.
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Nov 14, 2013 10:09 AM
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So Elf's real name is Michael?

Michael or Mikhail? This may confirm whether L-elf is Russian. Fun fact, I think people will start calling him Misha (Russian for bear) since it is the short form of Mikhail.
Nov 14, 2013 10:13 AM
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The name Dorussia should provide good hint that a lot of things from that country are based on either Germany or Russia....

And no Shouko again?!? Since when did we have the main heroine (at least as billed) gone for 2 episodes which is not because of actual disappearance (like being snatched or caught in some incident) ?
symbvNov 14, 2013 10:16 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Nov 14, 2013 10:28 AM
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^ It's probably due to the fact that they are focusing on telling the journey on Earth. Too much variety would cause the story flow to be more fragmented. I'm sad that Shouko was not mentioned here as well, but I think it's better for the show being done this way. Main character status would warrant her ample time later on. Episode 15 is the only time all four perspectives were shown (Joiran's on earth, Dorssian's, Shouko's, and future timeskip's)
Nov 14, 2013 10:59 AM
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//crawls into a corner and hug a plushie ;_;

I actually laughed at the beginning- seeing how much they rely on L-elf >_>

also, next ep'll have the new ed//
Nov 14, 2013 3:25 PM
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Yet another 100/10 episode. Thank you based Godrise.

Haruto's dad is like a Gendo-tier quality parent.

I'm surprised that a hundred year old literal museum piece still has fuel, engines, etc.

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Nov 14, 2013 4:38 PM

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need more rukino
and valvrape
Nov 14, 2013 4:43 PM

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need more rukino
and valvrape

I don't know why people can't stop with the rape jokes..
Nov 14, 2013 5:08 PM

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At least she gets to be in her own body again next episode...so it was just left on the transport...Wonder if unit IV is there too.
Nov 14, 2013 5:11 PM

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DAT REUNION. DAT TWIST THAT REMINDS ME OF GUNDAM SEED.

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Nov 14, 2013 5:13 PM
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Wow That revelation of his father, Valvrave and *blessing*
He is going to destroy Valvrave? But without Valvrave, L-elf can't secure the nation against attack, can he? I mean after he takes her to the nation. Curious to see how they are going to deal with it.

It was a solid and enjoyable episode.
Nov 14, 2013 5:14 PM

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Eruerufu shot a freaking helicopter with a pistol. BADASS.
Nov 14, 2013 5:38 PM

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"backbone line infiltration successful"

infiltration? ur mech is glowing like a christmastree lmao

still watching but this made lol
Nov 14, 2013 5:38 PM

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Entravity said:
DAT TWIST THAT REMINDS ME OF GUNDAM SEED.


There was a twist o: ?

I still don't understand how those helicopters couldn't really hit him very well with machine guns or something while his pistol is effective...
Nov 14, 2013 5:44 PM

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Jroflcopter said:
Entravity said:
DAT TWIST THAT REMINDS ME OF GUNDAM SEED.


There was a twist o: ?

I still don't understand how those helicopters couldn't really hit him very well with machine guns or something while his pistol is effective...


Spoiler for Gundam Seed
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Nov 14, 2013 5:46 PM

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Why are anime dads always so shitty?
Nov 14, 2013 5:47 PM

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Why are anime dads always so shitty?


Lol It's the drugs kid the drugs.
Nov 14, 2013 5:53 PM

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ThangLong said:
tsubasalover said:
So Elf's real name is Michael?

Michael or Mikhail? This may confirm whether L-elf is Russian.


It's pronounced the way a German would pronounce a word spelled "Michael". For example, it is how a German would Pronounce Michael Schumacher's first name. Given the vaguely imperial german aesthetic of the Dorssian military, I would lean towards Michael rather than Mikhail.
Nov 14, 2013 5:56 PM

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Lol I watch this after watching Jojo and they bring the same subject that is ultimate lifeform.
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fst said:
ThangLong said:
tsubasalover said:
So Elf's real name is Michael?

Michael or Mikhail? This may confirm whether L-elf is Russian.


It's pronounced the way a German would pronounce a word spelled "Michael". For example, it is how a German would Pronounce Michael Schumacher's first name. Given the vaguely imperial german aesthetic of the Dorssian military, I would lean towards Michael rather than Mikhail.


it is definetly Michael. this anime tends to overuse german words/names and when it does its usually not even correct.

good example. the words that l-elf wrote in that rock (ep3 and 4). it says:

tΓΆten,nicht getΓΆtet < now the first word makes sense because it means "to kill" but the second half is a mess because there is a word missing. it should have been like this:

tΓΆten, nicht getΓΆtet werden > kill,not get killed

not that i care too much..
Nov 14, 2013 6:15 PM

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Good episode.
Nov 14, 2013 7:03 PM

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Well the father/scientist is crazy.

Great episode!!!
Nov 14, 2013 7:05 PM

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The more L-Elf opens up his real personality and motivation, the more he outshines Haruto as a main.

Isn't Haruto's dad's voice the same as the preview narrator?
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ThangLong said:
Haruto's dad seriously freaked me out. He will get the title Worst Dad of The Year. I'm glad that Haruto punched the bastard.

So much information was given this episode. Haxed L-elf vs. three attack helicopters; and we got to know his real name. The meeting in the end with Lieselotte was done beautifully.

No Shouko in this episode ;_;


Haruto's dad worse father of the year and Cordelia from Diabolik Lovers worse mother of the year.

I thought this episode was great and creepy.
Wohoooo L-Elf does have a real name and I love it!!i believe he is Russian
Plus the reunion of Haruto and his dad not what he expected at all
Reunion of L-elf and Lieselotte just beautiful especially with his line " I' m gonna abduct you" and holding her hand oh gosh I ship them!!!!!

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Nov 14, 2013 7:20 PM
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Entravity said:
Jroflcopter said:
Entravity said:
DAT TWIST THAT REMINDS ME OF GUNDAM SEED.


There was a twist o: ?

I still don't understand how those helicopters couldn't really hit him very well with machine guns or something while his pistol is effective...


Spoiler for Gundam Seed

Didn't we already knew that they were genetically modified though, back in season one I think? Unless I'm just remembering things incorrectly...

Anyways, sucks that the happy reunion between father and son was not so happy after all, especially when the father said that he's got a photo of Haruto on his desk and it turns out to be Haruto's DNA sequence or something.

Oh L-elf, how romantic. "Allow me to abduct you."
Nov 14, 2013 7:26 PM

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so Haruto is actually artificially created lol and damn looks like Saki is in trouble next episode
Nov 14, 2013 7:54 PM
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Dang, Haruto has got a bad father. Really!? You're addicted to your research and you only look at your kid because he went in the Valvrave you built that makes your dream creations occurs!? You've got to be shitt!ng my. *facepalm* There is a limit to how inhumane you can be, even if its for your dream.

The better part of this whole episode was L-Elf and Lieselotte. I'm so god darn happy the moment our genius Micheal figures it out and runs off to her. Then he shoots down a freaking heli with a perfect shot straight to the pilot barely looking. And maybe he planned on the missile shooting and then "unlocking" the doors to Lieselotte. And then the finishing line of sheer DAWWWW is....
"Allow me to abduct you."

YYYYEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!(I'm a sucker for romantic stuff)
Nov 14, 2013 8:06 PM

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That machine at the beginning that Lieselotte was in looks really suspicious...

Haruto's dad was such a douche,an insane nut job too.He deserved dat punch.Throughout that scene I though Haruto was going to go vampire and attack his ass.

L-elf's real name Mikhail.So he was a Jiorian prisoner turned Dorssian soldier?

Dorssian Royalty were killed(excluding A-drei) in a Coup d'etat.

L-elf was SO badass shooting down dat helicopter.

And dat reunion scene,so beautiful.Was totally fangirling.

Saki discovered next episode.
Nov 14, 2013 8:07 PM

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tingy said:
Entravity said:
Jroflcopter said:
Entravity said:
DAT TWIST THAT REMINDS ME OF GUNDAM SEED.


There was a twist o: ?


Spoiler for Gundam Seed

Didn't we already knew that they were genetically modified though, back in season one I think? Unless I'm just remembering things incorrectly...

Anyways, sucks that the happy reunion between father and son was not so happy after all, especially when the father said that he's got a photo of Haruto on his desk and it turns out to be Haruto's DNA sequence or something.
actually, the guy is pointing out more on the fact that it mirrors Gundam SEED's situation almost perfectly.. Haruto is not just a genetically modified person, the one who is mainly in charge of genetic modification is mostly his father.. and in both cases, not only did they become the ultimate lifeforms, they also became hax weapons of war, initially involuntarily..

anyway, Saki's in a pinch once she finds her body and transfer back to it.. will she get out of A-Drei and Dorssians capturing her and possibly being vulvaraped again? we'll find out in the upcoming episodes..

L-Elf had his best shining moments again in this episode.. now we finally get to see his initial motives into fruition..
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argilium said:
tingy said:

Didn't we already knew that they were genetically modified though, back in season one I think? Unless I'm just remembering things incorrectly...
actually, the guy is pointing out more on the fact that it mirrors Gundam SEED's situation almost perfectly.. Haruto is not just a genetically modified person, the one who is mainly in charge of genetic modification is mostly his father.. and in both cases, not only did they become the ultimate lifeforms, they also became hax weapons of war, initially involuntarily..

Well he called it a twist and I was saying how it wasn't really a twist if we already knew/suspected it :P But yeah, I do see the similarity, though it didn't cross my mind when I was watching this episode.
Nov 14, 2013 8:47 PM
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Haruto's dad has a few screws loose but good for Haruto for manning up and getting his dad to shut up. That ending scene with the ending song playing and L-Elf rescuing his princess gave me the chills
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Nov 14, 2013 8:53 PM

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Indeed! That ending song fits perfectly at the end. And the "Allow me to abduct you" sounds romantic somehow...
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L-elf's real name Mikhail.So he was a Jiorian prisoner turned Dorssian soldier?


They specifically said that it wasn't a JIORian name.
Also, he's Dorssian. The territory that he used to live in was overtaken by the Dorssian military.
Nov 14, 2013 9:00 PM

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Haruto's dad is a mad scientist :P It's good to see L-elf reuniting with Lieselotte :D
Nov 14, 2013 9:24 PM

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btw, the narrator turns out to be Haruto's father.. i always wondered who Toshihiko Seki is voicing besides the narrator.. turns out it is the one who's in charge of making the valvraves.. quite fitting especially with all the:
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Nov 14, 2013 9:43 PM

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Aside from perhaps one episode, the second season has done a pretty amazing job of capitalizing on drama. Although Haruto's dad as a mad scientist turned out to be kind of meh and anticlimactic, the coalescence of all the different threads will prove to be pretty exciting. Saki will finally go up against A-Drei next episode, and with Cain having found out about L-Elf's potential whereabouts, a major battle is looming on the horizon. L-Elf's last line to Lieselotte is just great, though I'm not sure whether they'll see a good ending. The title of the next episode already spells death flag for somebody...
Nov 14, 2013 10:06 PM
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L-elf is the best character of all time. Also is anyone else really impressed by the animation quality in this series? Maybe because I had no expectations when I started it but damn stuff looks great.
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L-Elf is so badass, he only need a handgun to fight against helicopter.

I knew Haruto's father is not a good father the moment I see him.
Nov 14, 2013 10:55 PM

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That reunion at the end. Somehow, Haruto's dad looked really weird.
Nov 14, 2013 11:19 PM

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Well that seems to explain why Haruto and Shoko apparently ran away together when they were younger.
Nov 15, 2013 1:45 AM

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yay!!!
L-elf found her :)

Haruto's dad... Wtf?
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Nov 15, 2013 4:03 AM
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My next episode speculations:-

- L-elf's deathflag is coming?
- Rukino got busted by A-drei. I bet she's been captured as we seen in an early season 2 preview.

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Haruto's dad... Wtf?


Thank god Haruto punches him. WHAT A FUCKING DOUCHE. I say FUCK HIM!
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- L-elf's deathflag is coming.


Nah. alongside Saki and Saotomi L-11 has plot armor due to the 200 year timsekip... well, at least until he gets himself a woman and plants some seeds.
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Blue_Buster_Jeff said:
- L-elf's deathflag is coming.


Nah. alongside Saki and Saotomi L-11 has plot armor due to the 200 year timsekip... well, at least until he gets himself a woman and plants some seeds.


So the kid Saki and Renbokouji were taking care of is L-11 and Liselotte's son?
That explains his facial similarities to Michael.
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ALLOW ME TO ABDUCT YOU. YES
Nov 15, 2013 5:51 AM
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Still NO breakthrough that what happened to H-Neun last episode? NOBODY told me about this?! The question was,

- Is H-Neun really dead?
- Did Cain Killed him?

I've been wondering this all the time, for god's sake! I mean why X-Eins & Kriemhild was like 'we don't care'?! Or maybe they've been wondering that where is he?
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L-Elf x Lisoretter : )

Haruto's dad WTH!!! > ; 0
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