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Jan 4, 2011 12:16 AM
#1
I heard all the talk about the plot being awful but I decided to put that aside because that's obviously not the reason why I watched Gundam. For the most part, the movie was watchable; there were lots of flashy lasers - sort of like a cartoon version of Tron L. With about half an hour to go, the characters decided they needed to start saying stupid things like "we're not fighting, we're unlocking the future" but I thought that was just a reminder that the show as in fact Gundam. And then they said the same things again. And again. And again. Before I knew it, the movie was drawing to a close with Setsuna opening the stargate and then suddenly, a gigantic space flower appeared. The credits started rolling. My facial expression went from :O to :( ) in a split second. I fast forwarded to the epilogue and saw Setsuna meeting Marina for the first time since they were young and she says I'VE MISSED YOU. Trolled hard missy, that's what you get for being clingy. He's metal now so I guess that makes him some kind of super-dildo; maybe they can still make up for lost time. When I thought that the movie would just end already, the Gundam turned into flowers. I feel insulted now. Whoever made this actually tricked me into watching it. Gundam, I am disappoint. |
MisterJan 4, 2011 1:01 AM
Jan 4, 2011 12:55 AM
#2
i just watched the movie... a total disappointment towards the storyline, too much lasersssss flying around and they don't really shows the gundams fighting, and worst of all... the ending was pointless... This movie just sucks... Might as well ask SOS Bridgate made one :) |
Jan 4, 2011 12:55 AM
#3
Lmao, I just finished watching, and I am crying with laughter. Quality entertainment for sure. This was a comedy, not an action shounen. I couldn't believe my eyes when the flower appeared, I was like "Is this for real!?" Are the producers on crack? |
Jan 4, 2011 1:10 AM
#4
Jan 4, 2011 2:39 AM
#5
This move maybe a waste of time because you don’t understand the motive and the story. A lot may have just watched the series because of the action without understanding the story. Those who watched season 1 & 2 and understood the story and motive would also understand what is happening in the movie. |
Jan 4, 2011 3:07 AM
#6
tomosatsui said: This move maybe a waste of time because you don’t understand the motive and the story. A lot may have just watched the series because of the action without understanding the story. Those who watched season 1 & 2 and understood the story and motive would also understand what is happening in the movie. Yes, we all know what happened in the movie but it was more like a fairy tale you would tell a 6-year-old. Now that I mention it, that does sound accurate. (Don't worry, I have taken note of your incendiary tone.) |
Jan 4, 2011 3:12 AM
#7
saw pics of that 00 movie on rc & yep it prove it's 00ver-rated. eally they can give set-light a girl & be less humam yea a total BOOing in many ways give it more WORST than even no wonder this series has FAILED & will never match the level of GS series. & yet i was right whole time on it that someone called me a prophet for knewing it was an 00ver-rated movie really is not worth it really add aliens in gundam do not mix well & yet prove it FAILED in many ways. give that i was against whole 00ver-rated for years especially seeing pics, vids, etc that don't go level to match GS era in all types. look at 00ver-rated so many shoot 1st questions later, jumping the guns, too many trust issues, filler/cannon fodder characters (besides most of the 2nd half characters got killed-off really no love of 2nd half) besides worst it was bad to split it to 2 sets of 25eps. yea overall the whole 00ver-rated sort a hurted/damage whole gundam world in many ways. give yet fanbase, popularity, characters rankings till now show GS era still better than 00ver-rated. i guess that means 00ver-rated is nothing but a 2nd rate trying hard copycat show with so many flaws in all kinds. so with that being gone & good ridencice now we get next era with my ideas of being 1.main lead female gundam protagnist pilot tv series 2.gundam version of kamen rider decade/35th super sentai crossover series in a gundam style 3.the return of the GS era (yea still owe a movie) even yet the unthinkable the 3rd GS tv season. really this what must be to SAVE gundam world. & yea main guy in 00ver-rated aka set-light really by worst character of this era no emotion, lame, don't want women love, etc dood really HE SO NEED TO GET (BLEEPING) LAID. |
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Jan 4, 2011 3:15 AM
#8
Khm... understanding doesn't equals appreciation. whether it keeps the plot that all bad things comes from lack of corresponding and mutual understanding, or not... it's still boring as hell, and it still has fracking aliens. |
Jan 4, 2011 3:32 AM
#9
They should have spent more time on the epilogue. Seriously what happened to everyone else?? did they die?? Did they innovate?? Who ended up with who?? Also Descartes and Meena were just there they had zero character development while the Billy/Meena scenes did make me lol hard it didn't really do anything at all for the plot. I didn't get the hype for Descartes I really thought he was going to be the epic next to final boss or something, but to have him die in such a pathetic way that early in the movie I am disappoint I think he was just there for eye candy. Although I did love all the little Saji and Louise moments plus Hallelujah showing off his epic pakour skills when the vehicles at that one base became infected by the ELS. Also the part where Chiaki's song played in the background when Andrei was fighting. Overall I'm having trouble giving it a 6 or 7/10 unless they release an extended edition or something with a better epilogue if they do that then I'll give it an 8/10 cause I was hoping for closure for all the characters not just Setsuna and Marina when I first heard this movie being announced. |
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Jan 4, 2011 5:18 AM
#10
so now look you're all in agree with me that 00ver-rated movie is a disaster movie to watch yea really what would better IF they that set-light be more HUMAN & go with the set-feldt pairing but instead 00ver-rated just SCREW you & all gundam world. hmm really IF ever do more of this 00ver-rated i say best answer to it go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA-271GIsZU NEXUS attack on everything on 00ver-rated to prove it just a FAILED series & that GS era is the real answer of this generation. yea that what 00ver-rated really deserve this http://herotvforums.com/images/smilies/idiot.gif & now that experiment has been "pull the plug" now better to look new era cause i see my ideas are likely to happen & maybe GS era will return. |
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Jan 4, 2011 8:31 AM
#11
Disappointing movie. Was hoping it would be better than it what it turned out to be. At most it's a 7.5 out 10. Had more enjoyment watching Trigun: Badlands Rumble movie than this. Now that movie left me with a smile. |
Jan 4, 2011 8:43 AM
#12
i enjoyed it to be honest its a good movie not ground breaking but i dont think it deserves so much hate like you guys are saying but then again thats just you and this is me the message in the end is very good too peace is not achieve through force but rather on understanding |
Jan 4, 2011 11:29 AM
#13
The message of almost every Gundam series is that communication and understanding are key to world peace. That doesn't suddenly make the plot deep and meaningful. It was choppy, slow, and most importantly, boring. Lasers flying everywhere could not disguise the lack of substance. @ENTER_KLACMAN : Please stop saying "00ver-rated", it's not going to catch on, no matter how many times you type it out XD |
Jan 4, 2011 6:51 PM
#14
disapointed in not enough depth and not enough pew pew also did anyone understand that the qan[t]00 warped via wormhole and didnt explain that very well and lol to the gundam seed obsessed persongundam seed was just plain terrible compared to MSG SEIG ZEON~! |
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Jan 4, 2011 8:56 PM
#15
UC is better in terms of character, politics and universe building. CE is good series for younger audience. 00 employs some hardcore SF elements that not everyone like (but I do). I admit 00 overall is kinda disappointing... Then again, I wanted an anime adaption of Issac Asimov....I'm a bit disappointed it didn't go deeper. |
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Jan 5, 2011 5:11 AM
#16
Rizzle said: The message of almost every Gundam series is that communication and understanding are key to world peace. That doesn't suddenly make the plot deep and meaningful. ye you may imply its going shallow because its going repetitive now but this show is not just for people who watch a lot of gundam shows the message on the movie like "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding" is a quote from Albert Einstein and its a good lesson for kids that will be the next generation and a good reminder for adults so i dont think this show is a letdown its not made for adults only rather for future gundam funs especially the kids |
Jan 5, 2011 8:05 AM
#17
but still it end being a SCREW YOU for watching this 00ver-rated. really so much hype in many give mention those new characters in it hello it more FILLERS/EXTRAS in disguise. besides aliens really even so WHAT that is by far worst idea EVER geez no wonder gundam & aliens will never be a good mix. yet i knew whole time it will SUNK yet i was right whole & i was a prophet for knewing that movie is not good to watch. besides they argee with me on it. & now it over, nail in coffin, buried, etc so her what must be next to get us rid of this 00ver-rated hangover. 1.main lead female gundam protagnist pilot tv series 2.gundam version of kamen rider decade/35th super sentai crossover series in a gundam style 3.the return of the GS era (yea still owe a movie) even yet the unthinkable the 3rd GS tv season. give on the following main lead female gundam protagnist pilot tv series "i would seiyu with no gundam experience for example ayako, mamiko, mai nakahara, ami kosh, eri kit, yui horie, Saori Hayami, marina inoue, aya hirano, etc female with no gundam experience as MAIN LEAD females (give on english i do want Chantal Strand on the MAIN LEAD really way she sounded you got put her in MAIN LEAD roles)." gundam version of kamen rider decade/35th super sentai crossover series in a gundam style "sure SS & kamen rider did those & we have video game crossovers but in a actual tv series would be something especially so many dream/crossover/team-ups/etc of different world of gundam yea it's like your dream came true." the return of the GS era (yea still owe a movie) even yet the unthinkable the 3rd GS tv season "yea this one is still those loyal to GS & yet is still MAIN gundam till now of this generation so sure the movie must happen then what next maybe 3rd GS season, prequal series to GS, more spinoff, Gundam SEED Club Yonkoma the series, remake/reboot of GS, etc cause either way GS era is still really MAIN gundam is this generation". |
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Jan 5, 2011 3:50 PM
#18
Rizzle said: Lmao, I just finished watching, and I am crying with laughter. Quality entertainment for sure. This was a comedy, not an action shounen. I couldn't believe my eyes when the flower appeared, I was like "Is this for real!?" Are the producers on crack? That was how I felt when i watched it. I felt all the supposed serious moments such as Hallelujah jumping around like some ninja incredibly stupid and the whole ELS "Ribbons" scene was utterly awkward instead of "interesting". I couldn't stop laughing when Saji threw a chair at him, let alone the sticky grenade that is thrown lateron. This film is an utter disaster as an action movie, but would work great like a comedy as you said. I will pretend that this film never existed and 00 ended at season 2. |
ZakuHeadJan 5, 2011 4:54 PM
Jan 5, 2011 4:27 PM
#19
ENTER_KLACMAN said: the return of the GS era (yea still owe a movie) even yet the unthinkable the 3rd GS tv season "yea this one is still those loyal to GS & yet is still MAIN gundam till now of this generation so sure the movie must happen then what next maybe 3rd GS season, prequal series to GS, more spinoff, Gundam SEED Club Yonkoma the series, remake/reboot of GS, etc cause either way GS era is still really MAIN gundam is this generation". Seriously, if you think that the Seed series are among the "best" of Gundam, you are sadly mistaken. Seed is nothing more than a horrible remake of the original Gundam and its sequels. Why don't you go watch some of series directed Tomino himself, specifically Zeta Gundam along with Turn A? And if you still think that Seed is the best after watching them because you dismiss the art as old and crappy or the show stupid, I can only conclude that you have no brains at all. If these Gundam series never existed nor were they successful, you wouldn't have had Seed at all. |
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Jan 5, 2011 7:36 PM
#20
GunDumb90 said: ENTER_KLACMAN said: the return of the GS era (yea still owe a movie) even yet the unthinkable the 3rd GS tv season "yea this one is still those loyal to GS & yet is still MAIN gundam till now of this generation so sure the movie must happen then what next maybe 3rd GS season, prequal series to GS, more spinoff, Gundam SEED Club Yonkoma the series, remake/reboot of GS, etc cause either way GS era is still really MAIN gundam is this generation". Seriously, if you think that the Seed series are among the "best" of Gundam, you are sadly mistaken. Seed is nothing more than a horrible remake of the original Gundam and its sequels. Why don't you go watch some of series directed Tomino himself, specifically Zeta Gundam along with Turn A? And if you still think that Seed is the best after watching them because you dismiss the art as old and crappy or the show stupid, I can only conclude that you have no brains at all. If these Gundam series never existed nor were they successful, you wouldn't have had Seed at all. uh hello i was refer the GS era to being best on THIS generation. besides really GS was series that SAVE gundam world for the new era give uc was original era but for new eras lots of other gundam has fallen but GS stand tall & rise to the challenge. look it still better than 00ver-rated in all level besides i'm saying 00ver-rated sort a KILLED the whole 00ver-rated franchise itself cause of poor excuse of aliens, filler characters, BORING main guy who really need to be more human & GET LAD. yea 00ver-rated really SCREW ITSELF. should been better to continue more on GS era. |
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Jan 5, 2011 8:12 PM
#21
Actually it was Turn A Gundam which aired 3 years before Seed that brought in renewed interest. Also why don't you try to write properly? If you actually did, someone MIGHT understand you. Only loser fanboys think SEED is the greatest thing that happened to Gundam, ITS ACTUALLY Zeta that is considered the best, didn't you know that? Also stop saying 00verrated, you don't sound smart at all if you have nothing to comment about the film itself, then stop posting here. If you want to state why you think 00 sucks in your posts, try attempting to use some intellect along with proper grammar or we'll just accuse you of trolling the entire time. |
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Jan 6, 2011 3:33 AM
#22
GunDumb90 said: You must be easily entertained if you think those scenes are so hilarious... I couldn't stop laughing when Saji threw a chair at him, let alone the sticky grenade that is thrown lateron. This film is an utter disaster as an action movie, but would work great like a comedy as you said. The movie did have some funny moments between Kati and Patrick, as well as Billy and Mina. I like how they implemented some comedy in an overall serious movie. |
Jan 7, 2011 6:20 PM
#23
but still movie was big FLAWS in many way i've bring this message replay about it & i quote "Mecha Design Again, there was no improvement. Gundam 00 never could get over the famished look of their mecha designs. Whoever designed Raphael was tripping the light fantastic –its only redeeming feature is the dual-Haro (orenji and blue) system. Transformable Harute (?) looked like a Waverider/VF-19 Excalibur/Legois Alpha knockoff. I’d rather Setsuna stick with the 00 Raiser, than the 00 Quan-T, which looked really bad compared to its predecessor. And won’t it be so-annoying to have CYBER-TIERA AS YOUR VIRTUAL REALITY CO-PILOT? Give me a vocaloid instead, please, or an eroge girl – or Tinkerbell – NOT FRIGGIN TIERA THE VIRTUAL FAIRY GOD- ERR- WHATEVER. Nu Gundam must be rolling in its grave. The over-spamming of ELS bits/funnels was just that – BAD SPAM. And the funnels looked to be very similar to Legend Gundam’s DRAGOONS aesthetically. And people say Gundam SEED’s beam spamming was BAD? What do you call Trailblazer then –where everyone got envious of Mr. Yamato and wanted FULL BURST MODES? That's acceptable but SEED spam is not? I don't think so...or you have a weird sense of double-standard Well at least those Space-Invaders arcade mobile suits from Season 2’s end weren’t around to give me a migraine. Oh wait – they DID return for the movie, at least one of them PLUS THE ANNOYING BITSPAM. The Story and Script To mention stuff folks here talk about on Plurk, I have to agree with the comments there that it was too cliché (the Plurk term was “cheesy”). I feel like some of the lines came from Naruto (Graham: “This is your way.”) or TTGL. (Graham: Go on, shounen, and cut a path to the future!”) My opinion is that Trailblazer crashed the quality of the Gundam 00 story that it did so very well in Season 2 (except for the Space Invaders arcade ending). It had that “Gundam-meets-Transformers/Invasion-of-the-Body-Snatchers/Terminator/Star Wars-Death-Star-Melon/Trekkie-Borg-but-failed-to-assimilate-Macross” kind of feeling. I was waiting for Ribbons Almark to say “Hasta la vista, baby!” or “I’ll be back” after he was blown up by that magnetic grenade. And the alien warships reminded me of B-side Sci-Fi channel series like Babylon 5 or Andromeda. That movie Saji saw was plain fun - cheesy lines, super robot Gundam, and the appearance of the Axis asteroid gave it a nice touch. Saved the story by poking some fun in an otherwise dragging tale. Descartes Sherman is the Char clone of this take. Aside from Graham of course. Meena is the only interesting side character who stole the show. Allelujah and Marie/Soma are still my fave couple. Hippie eco-travelers. Parkour experts. Super soldier with amplifiers in their brain waves. Alien Invasion (doh) This is where I think Trailblazer turnovered the ball badly. While the premise of human colonies on Mars and Jupiter are prevalent in other timelines (specifically UC and SEED) and the possibility of a “invasion” of Earth and Humanspace by the frontier colonies is possible, taking the “Terminator 1000” route kinda threw it out of whack. I don’t watch Ben 10, but I read a Plurk comment that said the ELS looked to be based from a chara in that cartoon – which made me cringe. It made Trailblazer what Gundam shouldn’t ever do – stray from a core element of a Gundam story, which is, human emotions and struggles in a war between fellow humans. Putting the alien invasion element made Trailblazer a sorry attempt to transform Gundam into an intergalactic space opera with ALIENS. And oh yeah the ending – INVID FLOWER OF LIFE!!! PROTOCULTURE TREAT US WELL!! Gundam Fufonfia – Nyan 00 anyone? Overall, Trailblazer is not totally bad, thanks to the animation, but I didn’t really like the story, magnified by the lackluster mecha designs and the crazy alien invasion curve ball. Compared to other Gundam movies, Mobile Suit Gundam F91 is still the best of the lot, and Trailblazer is way behind. To sum it up, here’s gSS subs’ description of the movie: "After 1.5hrs of pointless political and scientific bullshit, the charas go Gundam SEED on the aliens and herpderp beam spamming everywhere" Or their more succinct one in gSS’ AVI version: “You should go watch a worthwhile movie instead anyway, like... Doraemon.” (dance) There was another comment, but its really not HTVF-friendly. Just go see gSS torrents for that. (headspin) Now I gotta go hurl. I hope Bonamine will work for annoying bit-spam induced headaches and dizziness. (headspin)" overall really more people are NOT ok with this FAILURE to gundam world. |
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Jan 8, 2011 10:39 AM
#24
Lol, I laughed and facepalmed several times watching the movie. Seeing that Unicorn was actually good, I had hoped Sunrise would learn and make this one good as well, but no, I find this one is almost as bad as Destiny. This movie reminds me of Fafner(the whole assimilation thing)+Terminator(Ribbons)+Spiderman(Allelujah)+Xenosaga(the whole huge scale alien thing), though done in a ridiculous way. I felt horrible likening Xenosaga to this, actually, since Xenosaga was quite good. That ending was hilarious as hell. Not to mention there's too much useless babble about "not fighting, we are trying to understand each other" repeatedly throughout the series that it could've fit within 1 hour instead of 2 hours. Really felt like watching SEED all over again. Plot could use some more advancement if the time spent babbling (and beam spamming) got cut instead. Characters are boring, heck, I think 00 S2 had even more development than this. A lot of characters appeared that serve little to no purpose at all. Well, the returning characters might be there just because they were there in the previous series, but Marina who was supposed to be important almost have no role aside in the epilogue. Not to mention most new characters are just there for the sake of it. Animation was okay, if not because the beam spam covering everything. It's even worse than SEED, which was known for Freedom's ridiculous beam spam. Making every single unit have bits is a stupid idea, I see. Makes me wonder why CCA didn't have that much beam spam, considering it has Nu + Sazabi + Alpha Aziel + the 2 Jagd Dogas. Well, at least this was better than SEED in terms of the lack of recycled animations. Wait, did that fit more into the reviews section? Really, Sunrise should animate Crossbone and Blue Destiny next, and not trolling us on those. And lol at a certain SEED obsessed fanboy. Funny that for me, SEED is the worst out of all the alternate universes (that I've watched, only Turn A left). Anyway, where did you copy paste that from? You should try to think your own reason why you think SEED is better than 00, not just copypasting someone. Oh, and write in an understandable manner, so people can actually understand your reasoning. |
Jan 8, 2011 11:27 AM
#25
Koko-Bear said: I like it when Allelujah finally showcased his supersoldier skills in Mongolia. He was clearly superhuman in all accounts that he can run faster than a truck, climb up a 20 foot wall, and instinctively evade in coming traffic. It's quite amusing. Then well all three consciousness synchronized and Harut went berserk on their ass was fun to watch. But that death by Andrei was really sad though.I think the only legit fighting scene in the movie was the one Andrei Smirnov was in , that was Epic i think. |
Jan 8, 2011 7:47 PM
#26
Frito said: Koko-Bear said: I like it when Allelujah finally showcased his supersoldier skills in Mongolia. He was clearly superhuman in all accounts that he can run faster than a truck, climb up a 20 foot wall, and instinctively evade in coming traffic. It's quite amusing. Then well all three consciousness synchronized and Harut went berserk on their ass was fun to watch. But that death by Andrei was really sad though.I think the only legit fighting scene in the movie was the one Andrei Smirnov was in , that was Epic i think. I felt that was the only good scene, all the other characters were just..there. Trailblazer was extremely bad and pretty much ruined the whole 00 AU for me, I'll just pretend it never existed. |
Jan 8, 2011 10:41 PM
#27
Trolled? Yeah...where's my intergalactic pink haired pop idol singer?! Need moar bubblegum pop and less songs about water flowing and forests breathing while people are blowing shit up and vice versa. /sarcasm More like, where is my Gundam SEED movie that was announced a gajillion years ago? Haters gonna be hate, but I feel more trolled because of not getting a Gundam SEED movie when it was clearly announced years earlier. It just dropped off the face of the Earth. All I can say to the flower phenomena is, at least it wasn't a giant heart carving on the moon with Setsuna and Marina's/Feldt's name on it (refering to Eureka Seven). |
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Jan 9, 2011 1:16 AM
#28
Jan 9, 2011 4:53 AM
#29
WTF did I just saw... aliens in a gundam series??? Its Official the gundam00 moive killed the gundam 00 series.....But I'll pretend I'd never seen this crap. |
Jan 9, 2011 7:52 AM
#30
I didn't feel it. I liked this movie and liked gundam 00 storyline in general. ENTER_KLACMAN said: so now look you're all in agree with me that 00ver-rated movie is a disaster movie to watch yea really what would better IF they that set-light be more HUMAN & go with the set-feldt pairing but instead 00ver-rated just SCREW you & all gundam world. hmm really IF ever do more of this 00ver-rated i say best answer to it go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA-271GIsZU NEXUS attack on everything on 00ver-rated to prove it just a FAILED series & that GS era is the real answer of this generation. yea that what 00ver-rated really deserve this http://herotvforums.com/images/smilies/idiot.gif & now that experiment has been "pull the plug" now better to look new era cause i see my ideas are likely to happen & maybe GS era will return. seed fanboy. |
Jan 9, 2011 8:16 AM
#31
now every gundam fan has an idea if micheal bay decided to take on gundam... |
Jan 9, 2011 9:19 AM
#32
I only felt trolled over personal desiers for the movie, but not the movie itself. Gundam 00: A wakaning of the trailblazer was a big gamble. Mizushima decided to make something that has never been used in a gundam series, extraterrestrial beings from another solar system. If you look from the POV from a fan of the UC or any other AU series of Gundam, it fails. But from the fans of the 00 series, and not Gundam, it doesn't fail, but it doesn't really succeed. In my personal opinion, I think they did introduced the aliens quite well. It wasn't even implied in the beginning that they were space aliens that invaded earth because they were bored. Later, you just found out that their way of life and nature were so different from ours that they would be considered dangerous, even if they aren't a violent race to begin with. The reason why that war happend is a reality for us humans as well. War often happens because of poor communications with others. It leads to misunderstanding, which happens the same way as with the ELS war. Although, it felt rushed in the end and they didn't come up with a smooth ending, so it still have flaws. Those who were truly trolled are the fans who were looking forward for Setsuna X Feldt, but didn't get enough. Well, he didn't end up with Marina in the end, so I guess that Ship to Ship war ended in a draw. As a fan of the series, I would have prefered human conflict over aliens, but I think that the movie was good enough. Also: ENTER_KLACMAN said: so now look you're all in agree with me that 00ver-rated movie is a disaster movie to watch yea really what would better IF they that set-light be more HUMAN & go with the set-feldt pairing but instead 00ver-rated just SCREW you & all gundam world. hmm really IF ever do more of this 00ver-rated i say best answer to it go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA-271GIsZU NEXUS attack on everything on 00ver-rated to prove it just a FAILED series & that GS era is the real answer of this generation. yea that what 00ver-rated really deserve this http://herotvforums.com/images/smilies/idiot.gif & now that experiment has been "pull the plug" now better to look new era cause i see my ideas are likely to happen & maybe GS era will return. I think the Seed series is more flawed than movie alone. If any Gundam series is overrated, then this is the first one to fall into that catagory. That's an unavoidable truth. |
SagaraYuzuruJan 9, 2011 12:37 PM
Jan 9, 2011 12:41 PM
#33
RedSuisei said: Characters are boring, heck, I think 00 S2 had even more development than this. A lot of characters appeared that serve little to no purpose at all. Well, the returning characters might be there just because they were there in the previous series, but Marina who was supposed to be important almost have no role aside in the epilogue. Not to mention most new characters are just there for the sake of it. Every character had a role and a purpose in the movie. And if you can't understand the ideological purpose of Marina and what she represents as opposed to Setsuna, then I am sorry to hear that. echoshadow said: WTF did I just saw... aliens in a gundam series??? Its Official the gundam00 moive killed the gundam 00 series.....But I'll pretend I'd never seen this crap. is it that hard to believe that there's life out there? Its not the first time this thought was tackled upon. TurnA Gundam was created FOR the interstellar combat and the series themselves contained alien lifeforms. or is there some kind of unknown rule that gundam series should only contain humans? Disaresta_06 said: now every gundam fan has an idea if micheal bay decided to take on gundam... Michael Bay already directed gundam. The series was Called Gundam Seed Destiny". Thankfully every sane person erased any memoeires of that abomination. This was more like Gundam series directed by Isaac Asimov and A.C.Clarke. ENTER_KLACMAN said: Transformable Harute (?) looked like a Waverider/VF-19 Excalibur/Legois Alpha knockoff. [/qupte] Or , you know, it looks like just about any gundam in Arios technology line. But of course seed mechas with giant wings and auto-aim systems were so awesomelly designed. ENTER_KLACMAN said: I’d rather Setsuna stick with the 00 Raiser, than the 00 Quan-T, which looked really bad compared to its predecessor. Looked like a cross between Nu-Gundam, and Exia, with the capabilities of TurnA. Hence way better than backpack and wing hell that was seed. ENTER_KLACMAN said: The over-spamming of ELS bits/funnels was just that – BAD SPAM. And the funnels looked to be very similar to Legend Gundam’s DRAGOONS aesthetically. Yes because we all know on just how awesome and original seed funnels were. And here's the irony of a seed fanboi commenting on spam attacks... ;] ENTER_KLACMAN said: And people say Gundam SEED’s beam spamming was BAD? What do you call Trailblazer then –where everyone got envious of Mr. Yamato and wanted FULL BURST MODES? That's acceptable but SEED spam is not? I don't think so...or you have a weird sense of double-standard the only auto-aim ever in the movie was Lockon's. Otherwise, the main difference with mechaand pilots from seed is that, you know, pilots are actually skilled in combat and have enough brains to devise strategies unlike the seed-spammers. ENTER_KLACMAN said: To mention stuff folks here talk about on Plurk, I have to agree with the comments there that it was too cliché (the Plurk term was “cheesy”). Which part exactly? Everything felt natural and in line with story, unlike certain neutral nation and certain godmode-sue disarming two armies at once. Not to mention that the outlook on conflict and its solving was handled way better. Oh and you know, it had actual characters, developed and realistic characters to whom you could relate to and understand. ENTER_KLACMAN said: And the alien warships reminded me of B-side Sci-Fi channel series like Babylon 5 or Andromeda. If you think babylon 5 and andromeda were "b-side series", then i have to question your tast....oh wait, you are that guy who LOVES seed....carry on then. ENTER_KLACMAN said: This is where I think Trailblazer turnovered the ball badly. While the premise of human colonies on Mars and Jupiter are prevalent in other timelines (specifically UC and SEED) and the possibility of a “invasion” of Earth and Humanspace by the frontier colonies is possible, taking the “Terminator 1000” route kinda threw it out of whack. I don’t watch Ben 10, but I read a Plurk comment that said the ELS looked to be based from a chara in that cartoon – which made me cringe. can't comment on this too much without loosing brain cells. Please go read some real science fiction. Oh and its not the first gundam series to focus on interstellar warfare. ENTER_KLACMAN said: It made Trailblazer what Gundam shouldn’t ever do – stray from a core element of a Gundam story, which is, human emotions and struggles in a war between fellow humans. That is core of gundam? i thought the core of gundam is the portrayal of war, with both sides having both good and bad qualities. AS well as little accidents leading to bad things? Oh wait you base everything you say on gundam seed.....oh welll. ENTER_KLACMAN said: Putting the alien invasion element made Trailblazer a sorry attempt to transform Gundam into an intergalactic space opera with ALIENS. gundam franchise was already space opera most of times. especially UC. oh and its not the firs ttime we had alien lifeforms or intesttellar mecha warfare. *points at turnA* To sum it up, here’s gSS subs’ description of the movie: ENTER_KLACMAN said: "After 1.5hrs of pointless political and scientific bullshit, the charas go Gundam SEED on the aliens and herpderp beam spamming everywhere" you see this comparison does not fit because the peace talks and the ideas in this movie actually made sense and were probably, unlike seed's halucinations. Mister said: Before I knew it, the movie was drawing to a close with Setsuna opening the stargate and then suddenly, a gigantic space flower appeared. The credits started rolling. My facial expression went from :O to :( ) in a split second. TurnA could do the same thing. In fact i am surprised tha tnone of other series ever used the concept. And the flower, its meaning and why it was there, was perfectly explained for those who actually watched. Mister I fast forwarded to the epilogue and saw Setsuna meeting Marina for the first time since they were young and she says I'VE MISSED YOU. Trolled hard missy, that's what you get for being clingy. He's metal now so I guess that makes him some kind of super-dildo; maybe they can still make up for lost time. When I thought that the movie would just end already, the Gundam turned into flowers. [/quote said: Apparantly words "platonic love" have not been heard by you. -[----------------------------------------- Overall I am now even less surprised that gundam 00 movie tvtropes page has "fan Dumb" trope in it. majority of this fandom is....welll....let's just say that the movie was too smart and too deep to be understood by them and the comments like "omg this had no plot" or "omg characters did not do anything" make me laugh and cry at the same time. |
Jan 9, 2011 2:35 PM
#34
If you can delude yourself into thinking that Marina actually had any purpose in the movies aside from that little bit in the epilogue, then I am sorry to hear that. It's funny to see fans defending this hard so far as to say that this movie is "too smart" and "too deep." |
Jan 9, 2011 9:15 PM
#35
RedSuisei said: The movie tried hard to use different characters and personify differently. They tried so hard that they forgot to write them as realistically as possible. Oh well. I want a Hallelujah spin-off where he becomes a bounty hunter hunting T1000s.If you can delude yourself into thinking that Marina actually had any purpose in the movies aside from that little bit in the epilogue, then I am sorry to hear that. It's funny to see fans defending this hard so far as to say that this movie is "too smart" and "too deep." |
Jan 10, 2011 6:27 PM
#36
Unfortunately this movie was utterly disappointing. The intro song was good though. |
Feb 3, 2011 9:11 AM
#37
They made the movie for one obvious reason I.E to sell their FUCKING TOYS! And people need to stop with:"Turn A was beautiful.Best gundam" We all know its a fucking lie. |
Fight4GloryFeb 3, 2011 9:17 AM
Feb 4, 2011 8:23 AM
#38
well well, for me the movie itself is a good one except for the Epilogue part. And the ELS suddenly turn into Fliower? WTH?? but set it aside, it was a good movie |
Feb 4, 2011 10:36 PM
#39
Wow, this movie was more confusing for me than End of Evangelion. Congrats Gundam. |
Feb 8, 2011 5:13 PM
#40
Heh, I started buying gundam plastic kits BEFORE I even knew it was a anime(I was like 10). I'm fearful of watching all the previous gundam series.. I watched seed as my #1 gundam series, and it was horrible. Then I watched 00, which was greate, then I watched gundam wing. Ew. Hm.. turn A story sounds interesting, but that gundam has a moustache :O |
Feb 9, 2011 10:34 PM
#41
While I understand the point they're trying to make with this movie, there's a limit to how cheesy you can do things. This movie proves that point. End made me laugh xD. |
Feb 9, 2011 10:35 PM
#42
Feb 10, 2011 12:00 AM
#43
I'm soo mad!!! They effing ruin a masterpiece. This is so unnecessary and WTF is the ending???!! We don't even see 00 quantum in action or its full capabilities. The plot was good at start and the fighting got too over top with all the effing lasers. I was happy when setsuna recovered and i was thinking he's gonna do something awesome like in the gundam 00 series but surprise an EFFING GIANT FLOWER AT THE END!!! Still a good movie if you just cut the ending |
Feb 12, 2011 5:03 PM
#44
i liked it. it killed off the epic 00 series tho. but like it shows that to stop war you need a common enemy bla bla bla etc. |
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Feb 15, 2011 9:50 AM
#45
I LOLd soooo hard. EPIC FAIL Sunrise! Though it was great entertainment for my half-dead brain. |
Feb 20, 2011 10:39 AM
#46
It seems to me that everyone's simply hopping onto the bandwagon of hate. "HERP everyone says FAIL, i say fail TOO! DERP!" Sure, the movie deviated from the way the TV series did things, and not in that good of a way. The biggest mistake is that this movie was made at all. As someone said earlier, gundam series are about human emotions, conflicts, etc. Adding aliens was clearly a step in the wrong direction. However, this movie WAS made, so in light of that, I find it hard to see a better main plot line that could have been taken. Try imagining the "regular", face-to-face conversation (with the aliens, I mean) route for example - it would have required too much dialogue, screen time, explanations and would have totally ruined the pacing. The only way to counter that would have been to make a TV/OVA series, but that would also have completely lost the essence of 00 - it would have been a completely different story and, I'm guessing, would have generated even more rage. It is true that most side characters did nothing, but hey - it's a movie. There was barely enough time for the main quartet to show off. Some might ask "then why put those characters in the movie at all?". The answer is, obviously, if anyone had been absent, a lot of the viewers would have reacted along the lines of "ZOMG WFT WHAR IZ [Insert character name]!!!111 SHITTEH MOVIE11!!1!", causing a shitstorm either way. Consider those "they-did-nothing" characters to be fanservice if you find them so worthless. Getting back to the execution of the plot, sure, there were quite a number of cliche lines, but it's nothing to be surprised at. Personally, I was expecting even more of those. What I disliked were some aspects of the epilogue. Primarily, though Marina wasn't among my favourite characters, seeing her as a semi-blind grandma still made me frown. I'm of the opinion that every happily-ever-after story should end while the characters are still young and have their whole lives ahead of them. That's just me, though. Still, the epilogue managed to reinforce the moral of the 00's story. What I found to be a really nice touch were the last frames with the flowery gundam. It also reminded me of the broken-down gundams in one of the second season's EDs - a thing used in conflict, a thing of the past, a thing that is not needed anymore. Thumbs up for that scene. Overall, I find the conclusion quite satisfactory. Sure, it could have shown how every single character ended up, but again, that's fanservice. Having everything handed to you on a silver platter might be convenient, but it is inessential. Having written all that, I actually thought of a possibility which could make this movie meaningful. Consider these points: *The alien homeworld was in trouble *Setsuna & Tieria went there with a gundam *Setsuna came back all glittery and in possession of either an upgraded Quantum or a different mobile suit altogether. *The expedition took a LOT of time Potential for "G00 - Adventures in the Land of Metal-ish Alien Tentacles" or something along those lines? Potential indeed. To conclude, as matters stand now, this movie was pretty meaningless. They could have wrapped it all up in S2, adding some extra scenes, or an additional episode, at most. Many viewers miss this point and go around cursing at the wrong things. While the execution could have been better, I'll agree on that, it was still quite good. I think that Sunrise were mistaken in animating this movie in the first place, but in light of this blunder, they produced quite a splendid result. Hop off the hate train, folks, and try looking at the movie from various perspectives and with an unbiased mind. From the majority of posts it is pretty obvious that the message G00 tried to deliver reached only a select few. A shame, isn't it? |
VerdictFeb 20, 2011 1:33 PM
Feb 24, 2011 9:54 AM
#47
taim said: Apparently, in Gundam 00 universe, only Patric Colasaur is immortal. Hey, you can't kill off the charismatic-comedic-relief guy! Someone needs to get laid in this storyline! Folly aside, I came to this movie with a hope to see shiny, more advanced versions of the Gundams from the first and second seasons. I wasn't expecting much from the story only because towards the end of the first season the lines for most of the main characters either became repetitive or I didn't really care. OP describes it best; Mister said: With about half an hour to go, the characters decided they needed to start saying stupid things like "we're not fighting, we're unlocking the future" but I thought that was just a reminder that the show as in fact Gundam. And then they said the same things again. And again. And again. As I watched this seemingly blank / emotionless / cold main character, Setsuna, take notice that he starts to feel something and become this overpowered "innovator", I had hope there could be something special happening once the laser spam battles were over. But I was rewarded with a giant flower. "Okay, calm down. Gundam has been pushing the peace thing for a while now. It's there theme, they can get away with this." I told myself as I watched the credits unroll. But that epilogue, man, when I saw a crystal-metal-Setsuna I knew someone was laughing at me somewhere. |
Mar 6, 2011 1:17 AM
#48
Verdict said: It seems to me that everyone's simply hopping onto the bandwagon of hate. "HERP everyone says FAIL, i say fail TOO! DERP!" Sure, the movie deviated from the way the TV series did things, and not in that good of a way. The biggest mistake is that this movie was made at all. As someone said earlier, gundam series are about human emotions, conflicts, etc. Adding aliens was clearly a step in the wrong direction. However, this movie WAS made, so in light of that, I find it hard to see a better main plot line that could have been taken. Try imagining the "regular", face-to-face conversation (with the aliens, I mean) route for example - it would have required too much dialogue, screen time, explanations and would have totally ruined the pacing. The only way to counter that would have been to make a TV/OVA series, but that would also have completely lost the essence of 00 - it would have been a completely different story and, I'm guessing, would have generated even more rage. It is true that most side characters did nothing, but hey - it's a movie. There was barely enough time for the main quartet to show off. Some might ask "then why put those characters in the movie at all?". The answer is, obviously, if anyone had been absent, a lot of the viewers would have reacted along the lines of "ZOMG WFT WHAR IZ [Insert character name]!!!111 SHITTEH MOVIE11!!1!", causing a shitstorm either way. Consider those "they-did-nothing" characters to be fanservice if you find them so worthless. Getting back to the execution of the plot, sure, there were quite a number of cliche lines, but it's nothing to be surprised at. Personally, I was expecting even more of those. What I disliked were some aspects of the epilogue. Primarily, though Marina wasn't among my favourite characters, seeing her as a semi-blind grandma still made me frown. I'm of the opinion that every happily-ever-after story should end while the characters are still young and have their whole lives ahead of them. That's just me, though. Still, the epilogue managed to reinforce the moral of the 00's story. What I found to be a really nice touch were the last frames with the flowery gundam. It also reminded me of the broken-down gundams in one of the second season's EDs - a thing used in conflict, a thing of the past, a thing that is not needed anymore. Thumbs up for that scene. Overall, I find the conclusion quite satisfactory. Sure, it could have shown how every single character ended up, but again, that's fanservice. Having everything handed to you on a silver platter might be convenient, but it is inessential. Having written all that, I actually thought of a possibility which could make this movie meaningful. Consider these points: *The alien homeworld was in trouble *Setsuna & Tieria went there with a gundam *Setsuna came back all glittery and in possession of either an upgraded Quantum or a different mobile suit altogether. *The expedition took a LOT of time Potential for "G00 - Adventures in the Land of Metal-ish Alien Tentacles" or something along those lines? Potential indeed. To conclude, as matters stand now, this movie was pretty meaningless. They could have wrapped it all up in S2, adding some extra scenes, or an additional episode, at most. Many viewers miss this point and go around cursing at the wrong things. While the execution could have been better, I'll agree on that, it was still quite good. I think that Sunrise were mistaken in animating this movie in the first place, but in light of this blunder, they produced quite a splendid result. Hop off the hate train, folks, and try looking at the movie from various perspectives and with an unbiased mind. From the majority of posts it is pretty obvious that the message G00 tried to deliver reached only a select few. A shame, isn't it? finally someone with a brain, yes it deviated too much with the central plot. and yes i didn't expect Aeolia Schenberg plan is to make peace with the aliens. i mean he prepared the GN Drive, Gundams, Celestial Being, Innvadors, Innovators just for that? i kinda agree that whole alien thing reminded me of Xenosaga, especials ELS. it reminded me of UDO for some reason. kinda ironic im also playing Episode III disc 2 right now im half way there :) im also surprised how ribbons already known Aeolia for sometime now. i wonder what they're relationship is? oh well Gundam 00 is still my favorite Gundam series. i was actually expecting Godlike Gundams appearing out of the jupiter out of a sudden. but oh well the movie was still good though but it didn't live up to the series name. @ENTER_KLACMAN lol proofread please. your sentence structure and grammar are horrible and no Gundam 00 is still better than Seed. heck i feel Wing is better than seed :P |
Mar 20, 2011 2:40 PM
#49
I did not think the movie was that bad, and I enjoyed it so, I gave it an 8. The only thing that really threw me off as the romance freak I am is the following. Why the hell would they make it seem like Feldt could be a legitimate love interest...and give so much meaning to the flower she gave Setsuna...and then end with with a Setsuna and Marina moment. I mean what...the...hell...was...that. I know, not the biggest complain about this movie but for me it is. I don't hate Marina...but please don't raise my hopes up like that... Still...I enjoyed the movie... |
I am a sucker for romance!!!! ] |
Apr 6, 2011 7:22 AM
#50
Verdict said: I agree with about 90% of what you said It seems to me that everyone's simply hopping onto the bandwagon of hate. "HERP everyone says FAIL, i say fail TOO! DERP!" Sure, the movie deviated from the way the TV series did things, and not in that good of a way. The biggest mistake is that this movie was made at all. As someone said earlier, gundam series are about human emotions, conflicts, etc. Adding aliens was clearly a step in the wrong direction. However, this movie WAS made, so in light of that, I find it hard to see a better main plot line that could have been taken. Try imagining the "regular", face-to-face conversation (with the aliens, I mean) route for example - it would have required too much dialogue, screen time, explanations and would have totally ruined the pacing. The only way to counter that would have been to make a TV/OVA series, but that would also have completely lost the essence of 00 - it would have been a completely different story and, I'm guessing, would have generated even more rage. It is true that most side characters did nothing, but hey - it's a movie. There was barely enough time for the main quartet to show off. Some might ask "then why put those characters in the movie at all?". The answer is, obviously, if anyone had been absent, a lot of the viewers would have reacted along the lines of "ZOMG WFT WHAR IZ [Insert character name]!!!111 SHITTEH MOVIE11!!1!", causing a shitstorm either way. Consider those "they-did-nothing" characters to be fanservice if you find them so worthless. Getting back to the execution of the plot, sure, there were quite a number of cliche lines, but it's nothing to be surprised at. Personally, I was expecting even more of those. What I disliked were some aspects of the epilogue. Primarily, though Marina wasn't among my favourite characters, seeing her as a semi-blind grandma still made me frown. I'm of the opinion that every happily-ever-after story should end while the characters are still young and have their whole lives ahead of them. That's just me, though. Still, the epilogue managed to reinforce the moral of the 00's story. What I found to be a really nice touch were the last frames with the flowery gundam. It also reminded me of the broken-down gundams in one of the second season's EDs - a thing used in conflict, a thing of the past, a thing that is not needed anymore. Thumbs up for that scene. Overall, I find the conclusion quite satisfactory. Sure, it could have shown how every single character ended up, but again, that's fanservice. Having everything handed to you on a silver platter might be convenient, but it is inessential. Having written all that, I actually thought of a possibility which could make this movie meaningful. Consider these points: *The alien homeworld was in trouble *Setsuna & Tieria went there with a gundam *Setsuna came back all glittery and in possession of either an upgraded Quantum or a different mobile suit altogether. *The expedition took a LOT of time Potential for "G00 - Adventures in the Land of Metal-ish Alien Tentacles" or something along those lines? Potential indeed. To conclude, as matters stand now, this movie was pretty meaningless. They could have wrapped it all up in S2, adding some extra scenes, or an additional episode, at most. Many viewers miss this point and go around cursing at the wrong things. While the execution could have been better, I'll agree on that, it was still quite good. I think that Sunrise were mistaken in animating this movie in the first place, but in light of this blunder, they produced quite a splendid result. Hop off the hate train, folks, and try looking at the movie from various perspectives and with an unbiased mind. From the majority of posts it is pretty obvious that the message G00 tried to deliver reached only a select few. A shame, isn't it? the two things that I don't agree with... 1. having reoccuring characters in a movie for the sake of fanservice seems like a lame half-assed excuse. 2. While I do understand the message they tried to push the way the presented made it hard for to take it or the entire movie serously. |
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