| Judging by the official announcement and the first trailer, this show will be the next Gundam with a female protagonist. Speculating on the visual, a tough female pilot from Zion. It looks a bit like a development from the original draft of Suletta as a badass female military commander, but regardless, what do you think? Since the past and first show with a female protagonist broke a lot of copies due to yuri and writing, do you expect anything in advance from the new heroine? As far as I can see, since the show will be mostly produced by western animators and the design of the girl is quite western, some have already begun to worry that she will copy western "strong and independent women" gymmick, if you know what I mean. |
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| I get that your grasping at easy straws here, but is your whole gimmick being the biggest UC Gundam fan without watching UC Gundam now? Pandering to lonely men only goes so far Robert. Anyway I doubt this will be good, not because it has a female protagonist, but because it seems like it's going to not be self aware. Even though the series is serious to a degree, its the "Tomino Gundam hammer" that makes the series worth watching in the first place. |
KumiveneellaJul 6, 2023 4:18 AM
Kumiveneella said: At the moment, you are grasping at straws, because you seem to be deliberately trying to find complaints about the gender of the protagonist even where there are none. Even using it for passive aggression towards me, although perhaps this was the intention? You can reduce your moral guard mode when someone mentions the possibility of different opinions about the female protagonist, it does not mean that they are criticizing the female protagonist.I get that your grasping at easy straws here, but is your whole gimmick being the biggest UC Gundam fan without watching UC Gundam now? Pandering to lonely men only goes so far Robert. Anyway I doubt this will be good, not because it has a female protagonist, but because it seems like it's going to not be self aware. Even though the series is serious to a degree, its the "Tomino Gundam hammer" that makes the series worth watching in the first place. |
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IssunWriter993 said: Are you saying that Warhammer fans hate women and any female protagonist in their show is automatically considered a male?Lmao whut? its made by a fucking Warhammer fanboy |
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RobertBobert said: Take it as me being passively agressive if that's the reading which is the most comfortable for you. It just seemes as though there was a clear target audience here, "if you know what I mean". It's hard for me to come out of this with any other reading than the one I did. I am sorry if I've misjudged your intent here. Kumiveneella said: At the moment, you are grasping at straws, because you seem to be deliberately trying to find complaints about the gender of the protagonist even where there are none. Even using it for passive aggression towards me, although perhaps this was the intention? You can reduce your moral guard mode when someone mentions the possibility of different opinions about the female protagonist, it does not mean that they are criticizing the female protagonist.I get that your grasping at easy straws here, but is your whole gimmick being the biggest UC Gundam fan without watching UC Gundam now? Pandering to lonely men only goes so far Robert. Anyway I doubt this will be good, not because it has a female protagonist, but because it seems like it's going to not be self aware. Even though the series is serious to a degree, its the "Tomino Gundam hammer" that makes the series worth watching in the first place. |
Kumiveneella said: You're just trying to be the vice police already. My saltiness about G-Witch was not because Suletta was a woman or a queer, but because how the show wrote her because I hate it when the show tries to manipulate me or prevents me from truly loving it. But that is beside the point. I just suggested discussing the new protagonist because I've already seen some people dislike her just because of the descriptions that "gaijins will ruin this".RobertBobert said: Take it as me being passively agressive if that's the reading which is the most comfortable for you. It just seemes as though there was a clear target audience here, "if you know what I mean". It's hard for me to come out of this with any other reading than the one I did. I am sorry if I've misjudged your intent here. At the moment, you are grasping at straws, because you seem to be deliberately trying to find complaints about the gender of the protagonist even where there are none. Even using it for passive aggression towards me, although perhaps this was the intention? You can reduce your moral guard mode when someone mentions the possibility of different opinions about the female protagonist, it does not mean that they are criticizing the female protagonist. |
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IssunWriter993 said: I don't know if I need glasses, but you obviously need to be less rude. And trust me dude. I've seen so many woke people among the most "manly men" and so many based people among the most "gae gay" that it doesn't mean anything. You can agree or disagree with paranoia, but there is always a chance to destroy everything, even for non-political reasons.RobertBobert said: ??? you need glasses man, that's not what remotely what I'm saying. Just you know Warhammer isn't exactly woke or whatever so that moron screeching about leftists propaganda makes no sense.Are you saying that Warhammer fans hate women and any female protagonist in their show is automatically considered a male? |
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RobertBobert said: Who made it about Witch from Mercury, no one even so much as mentioned the show before you brought it up. But fine, now that you've brought it up, I have absolutely no problem with whatever people think about the show, the problem begins when people start to talk about it in conjunction to the rest of the franchise. As if the rest of the franchise somehow reflects different values? Kumiveneella said: You're just trying to be the vice police already. My saltiness about G-Witch was not because Suletta was a woman or a queer, but because how the show wrote her because I hate it when the show tries to manipulate me or prevents me from truly loving it. But that is beside the point. I just suggested discussing the new protagonist because I've already seen some people dislike her just because of the descriptions that "gaijins will ruin this".Take it as me being passively agressive if that's the reading which is the most comfortable for you. It just seemes as though there was a clear target audience here, "if you know what I mean". It's hard for me to come out of this with any other reading than the one I did. I am sorry if I've misjudged your intent here. Edit* And what particularly upsets me is that you haven't even watched any of the other shows, if your list is to be believed, though I suppose you did retrospectively remove some of the entries on your list, if my memory serves right. Why talk about the quality of the Gundam and Macross franchises as a whole, when you don't even know about them. By the way do you ever think that maybe there's just a bit of a pattern in the way you interact with people. It's not exactly subtle who you positively interact with and who you don't. By the way I agree with you that whole west is going to ruin this thing, is kind of ridiculous. |
KumiveneellaJul 6, 2023 7:59 AM
Kumiveneella said: If it wasn't about the Witch, then it wouldn't make sense for you to try and quip about my preference for Gundam. Not to mention it was scarecrow. Because in your answer, you're drawing too rough conclusions about my motivation just because I mentioned different opinions about the character, while not expressing anything from myself.RobertBobert said: Who made it about Witch from Mercury, no one even so much as mentioned the show before you brought it up. But fine, now that you've brought it up, I have absolutely no problem with whatever people think about the show, the problem begins when people start to talk about it in conjunction to the rest of the franchise. As if the rest of the franchise somehow reflects different values?You're just trying to be the vice police already. My saltiness about G-Witch was not because Suletta was a woman or a queer, but because how the show wrote her because I hate it when the show tries to manipulate me or prevents me from truly loving it. But that is beside the point. I just suggested discussing the new protagonist because I've already seen some people dislike her just because of the descriptions that "gaijins will ruin this". By the way do you ever think that maybe there's just a bit of a pattern in the way you interact with people. It's not exactly subtle who you positively interact with and who you don't. Hah, it's been a long time since I heard attempts to rationalize labels. Don't worry, as a half Jew I'm very familiar with the "I'm not anti-Semitic, just because Jews are often rich, people often see them as greedy or cheating on poor people." I also find you to be quite stuffy and often manipulative based on my experience with you. Does this mean that even if it is not so, yours still gave me such a reason? |
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RobertBobert said: Well you know it wasn't an argument? So why does it matter whether my point or yours was a scarecrow. Kumiveneella said: If it wasn't about the Witch, then it wouldn't make sense for you to try and quip about my preference for Gundam. Not to mention it was scarecrow.Who made it about Witch from Mercury, no one even so much as mentioned the show before you brought it up. But fine, now that you've brought it up, I have absolutely no problem with whatever people think about the show, the problem begins when people start to talk about it in conjunction to the rest of the franchise. As if the rest of the franchise somehow reflects different values? By the way do you ever think that maybe there's just a bit of a pattern in the way you interact with people. It's not exactly subtle who you positively interact with and who you don't. Hah, it's been a long time since I heard attempts to rationalize labels. Don't worry, as a half Jew I'm very familiar with the "I'm not anti-Semitic, just because Jews are often rich, people often see them as greedy or cheating on poor people." I also find you to be quite stuffy and often manipulative based on my experience with you. Does this mean that even if it is not so, yours still gave me such a reason? When did I rationalize labels, I'm sorry but I'm kind of lost? I'm sorry if I did anything harmful, it was merely a point about how to my personal experience, you seem to positively interact with those who dislike the show and say it's a shame to the rest of the franchise. And to bring up another personal experience you attack people when they talk about ships. I guess this whole conversation is kind of irrelevant at this point. To the original subject at hand, that is. |
KumiveneellaJul 6, 2023 8:14 AM
Kumiveneella said: Again. I just gave different opinions and asked what people think about the new protagonist. Saying nothing on my own, because I know too little about her to speculate. But at first you accused me of looking for the slightest opportunity to complain about her gender, and then, when it turned out that this was not so, you tried to hint that even if this was not so, then I give people a reason to think so. This is what drove me crazy.RobertBobert said: Well you know it wasn't an argument? So why does it matter whether my point or yours was a scarecrow. If it wasn't about the Witch, then it wouldn't make sense for you to try and quip about my preference for Gundam. Not to mention it was scarecrow. Hah, it's been a long time since I heard attempts to rationalize labels. Don't worry, as a half Jew I'm very familiar with the "I'm not anti-Semitic, just because Jews are often rich, people often see them as greedy or cheating on poor people." I also find you to be quite stuffy and often manipulative based on my experience with you. Does this mean that even if it is not so, yours still gave me such a reason? When did I rationalize labels, I'm sorry but I'm kind of lost? I'm sorry if I did anything harmful, it was merely a point about how, you seem to positively interact with those who dislike the show and say it's a shame to the rest of the franchise. And to bring up personal example you attack people when they talk about ships. |
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RobertBobert said: I suppose I gave my own opinion about this matter, I do think that there was very little room for discussion here other than the mere fact that the protagonist was female. I think that I to a degree apologized if I had misunderstood.Kumiveneella said: Again. I just gave different opinions and asked what people think about the new protagonist. Saying nothing on my own, because I know too little about her to speculate. But at first you accused me of looking for the slightest opportunity to complain about her gender, and then, when it turned out that this was not so, you tried to hint that even if this was not so, then I give people a reason to think so. This is what drove me crazy.Well you know it wasn't an argument? So why does it matter whether my point or yours was a scarecrow. When did I rationalize labels, I'm sorry but I'm kind of lost? I'm sorry if I did anything harmful, it was merely a point about how, you seem to positively interact with those who dislike the show and say it's a shame to the rest of the franchise. And to bring up personal example you attack people when they talk about ships. I suppose even this could be plausible deniability, but I'll believe you. But even the spam guy kind of supports my view of things. Which is irony at best. |
Kumiveneella said: This dude even writes anti-woke homophobic insults to me, so I'm not sure if he is even adequate. But it is not important. Do you still plan to fight with me in a forum duel or do you have any opinion about the new protagonist?RobertBobert said: I suppose I gave my own opinion about this matter, I do think that there was very little room for discussion here other than the mere fact that the protagonist was female. I think that I to a degree apologized if I had misunderstood.Again. I just gave different opinions and asked what people think about the new protagonist. Saying nothing on my own, because I know too little about her to speculate. But at first you accused me of looking for the slightest opportunity to complain about her gender, and then, when it turned out that this was not so, you tried to hint that even if this was not so, then I give people a reason to think so. This is what drove me crazy. I suppose even this could be plausible deniability, but I'll believe you. But even the spam guy kind of supports my view of things. Which is irony at best. |
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RobertBobert said: I think I already gave that opinion, that they're meh at best, I mean can't really get much of an image from the pv, and the fact that the're on the side of Zeon doesn't really scream nuance. I don't really think that this entry will be good in general, I might be wrong though. BYEKumiveneella said: This dude even writes anti-woke homophobic insults to me, so I'm not sure if he is even adequate. But it is not important. Do you still plan to fight with me in a forum duel or do you have any opinion about the new protagonist?I suppose I gave my own opinion about this matter, I do think that there was very little room for discussion here other than the mere fact that the protagonist was female. I think that I to a degree apologized if I had misunderstood. I suppose even this could be plausible deniability, but I'll believe you. But even the spam guy kind of supports my view of things. Which is irony at best. Edit* But C'mon if you want to seem neutral, don't link a rightwing comics news site as a source for people getting fired because of Hogwards Legacy. |
KumiveneellaJul 6, 2023 9:06 AM
Kumiveneella said: Based on the first trailer and the emphasis on CGI action in the portfolio of people involved, I can predict it will be mostly action porn. Although given that the anime character is not mentioned anywhere else, they may remember the trademark "kill them all" style.RobertBobert said: I think I already gave that opinion, that they're meh at best, I mean can't really get much of an image from the pv, and the fact that the're on the side of Zeon doesn't really scream nuance. I don't really think that this entry will be good in general, I might be wrong though. BYEThis dude even writes anti-woke homophobic insults to me, so I'm not sure if he is even adequate. But it is not important. Do you still plan to fight with me in a forum duel or do you have any opinion about the new protagonist? Edit* But C'mon if you want to seem neutral, don't link a rightwing comics news site as a source for people getting fired because of Hogwards Legacy. |
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AnimePedestrian said: This is actually a brand collaboration with Western CGI animators.Wait... this is being done by a western studio? |
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EmmyMoomin said: More like yours. For in my post there is nothing that this is somehow connected with G-Witch.Does g_witch live rent free in your head? This is a UC gundam show. It doesn’t have anything to do with g_witch |
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RobertBobert said: AnimePedestrian said: This is actually a brand collaboration with Western CGI animators.Wait... this is being done by a western studio? Oh so the story is being done in the east, phew... well then I don't think there's much to worry about in terms of it being say similar to Star Wars or Halo. |
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AnimePedestrian said: I can copy you a rough translation of the preview on the official site. But they haven't released the official stuff yet.RobertBobert said: This is actually a brand collaboration with Western CGI animators. Oh so the story is being done in the east, phew... well then I don't think there's much to worry about in terms of it being say similar to Star Wars or Halo. |
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EmmyMoomin said: So, you are literally passive-aggressive for me mentioning G-Witch in the context of the new Gundam, even trying to twist my words as an attack on the show, but it's my fault? Haha, classic. I'll skip the irony that you're trying to joke about my mind while literally expecting any mention of G-Witch in the context of other Gundam shows to mean that people think they're directly related.RobertBobert said: More like yours. For in my post there is nothing that this is somehow connected with G-Witch. In multiple replies and also in the original post, you mention stuff about g_witch despite no one bringing it up. I’d come up with something witty to say but it’d go over your head, knowing you. |
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EmmyMoomin said: The more you write this, the more you really look like a salty fan who is looking for a fight to justify her butthurt. So if you really have more important things to do, then you'd better deal with them than clumsily try to be sarcastic here.RobertBobert said: So, you are literally passive-aggressive for me mentioning G-Witch in the context of the new Gundam, even trying to twist my words as an attack on the show, but it's my fault? Haha, classic. I'll skip the irony that you're trying to joke about my mind while literally expecting any mention of G-Witch in the context of other Gundam shows to mean that people think they're directly related. Ironic if you to talk about passive aggressiveness. I have better things to do right now. You can continue to get mad at the other people calling you out for your inane bullshit though. |
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ShinXShinra said: I'll just state that, those lines weren't about the show, arguably the nuance isn't there without context. It's nice that you've identified with those lines though, it's good to have a defining identity trait or two. I'll have you know that I myself own a depressing amount of Gundam merch, toodaloo. Kumiveneella said: I get that your grasping at easy straws here, but is your whole gimmick being the biggest UC Gundam fan without watching UC Gundam now? Pandering to lonely men only goes so far Robert. Anyway I doubt this will be good, not because it has a female protagonist, but because it seems like it's going to not be self aware. Even though the series is serious to a degree, its the "Tomino Gundam hammer" that makes the series worth watching in the first place. not tryna be a part of this argument in any way but "pandering to lonely men" runs economies. Their the ones that pay for the industry (merch, figures, Bluerays, Manga etc) and as a result pay the mangaka's salary whereas you woke clowns pirate and chat shit online while taking your anti-depressants.. just saying. You'd probably get along well with Robert, send him a friend request or something, maybe you'd make a new friend. Maybe something would have been gained from this. You can actually watch Gundam for free on the official Gundaminfo channel as well, so there's really no need to pirate it. |
KumiveneellaJul 18, 2023 2:10 PM
ShinXShinra said: Oh WOW, I didn't know you were an empath. Though Sympathy is more, a sense of pity for someone, which isn't really the same thing as empathy. Kumiveneella said: I'll just state that, those lines weren't about the show, arguably the nuance isn't there without context. It's nice that you've identified with those lines though, it's good to have a defining identity trait or two. I'll have you know that I myself own a depressing amount of Gundam merch, toodaloo. You'd probably get along well with Robert, send him a friend request or something, maybe you'd make a new friend. Maybe something would have been gained from this. You can actually watch Gundam for free on the official Gundaminfo channel as well, so there's really no need to pirate it. sympathy. that's what it is. I can feel for certain men. :) I always wonder how the Gundam franchise is inextricably linked to some men's sense of manlihood, I mean come on at least pick something like Dirty Harry, where the politics of the work agree with you. Although I guess even Clint Eastwood acknowledged that the movie just panders to lonely men. Just always seems kind of weird to me, you know Tomino thinks its unfair that men can't wear dresses. |
KumiveneellaJul 18, 2023 4:42 PM
| No offence, but why do have such a hate-boner for feminism and "the West" (whatever the hell that means)? It seems every other day I lurk on here I find you on another thread whining about feminism. |
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ahzhx said: What an eloquent response, got any other boogeymen to add? Are transgenders or Muslims involved too?homo shit leftist propaganda garbage |
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Epiccgaymer said: At first I wanted to suggest that you read CAREFULLY and without scarecrows, since I quoted other people, but what's the point of asking this from a person who is non-ironically arguing with the troll above?ahzhx said: What an eloquent response, got any other boogeymen to add? Are transgenders or Muslims involved too?homo shit leftist propaganda garbage |
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RobertBobert said: Sure you've said you're just saying what other's are saying, but you've provided no actual examples of them. It's just a nebulous, "other people are the ones who are saying this, not me." Besides, I've never seen you talking about how "other people" have positive opinions of the "woke" stuff you seem to dislike in animeEpiccgaymer said: At first I wanted to suggest that you read CAREFULLY and without scarecrows, since I quoted other people, but what's the point of asking this from a person who is non-ironically arguing with the troll above?What an eloquent response, got any other boogeymen to add? Are transgenders or Muslims involved too? |
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Epiccgaymer said: That is, you literally thought out my words for me in order to be able to attack me for it, although I speak directly about other people and do not express my opinion about this position? Classic. Do you realize that you now sound like a fanatic who is looking for an excuse to hunt witches?RobertBobert said: Sure you've said you're just saying what other's are saying, but you've provided no actual examples of them. It's just a nebulous, "other people are the ones who are saying this, not me." Besides, I've never seen you talking about how "other people" have positive opinions of the "woke" stuff you seem to dislike in animeAt first I wanted to suggest that you read CAREFULLY and without scarecrows, since I quoted other people, but what's the point of asking this from a person who is non-ironically arguing with the troll above? |
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RobertBobert said: Epiccgaymer said: That is, you literally thought out my words for me in order to be able to attack me for it, although I speak directly about other people and do not express my opinion about this position? Classic. Do you realize that you now sound like a fanatic who is looking for an excuse to hunt witches?Sure you've said you're just saying what other's are saying, but you've provided no actual examples of them. It's just a nebulous, "other people are the ones who are saying this, not me." Besides, I've never seen you talking about how "other people" have positive opinions of the "woke" stuff you seem to dislike in anime You're still doing what I complained about. Where are these other people and why weren't they directly mentioned in the first post? I don't care about your persecution complex, so I'm not going to bother with the whole "fanatic" business other than saying I don't know how "why do you complain about feminism so much" and "where are these other people you keep talking about" don't seem like fanatical statements to me. |
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Epiccgaymer said: So now you insist that I literally give you links and names of other people and explain every little thing just because you are trying to persecute me for linking to their opinion? You act like a bully looking for excuses to pick on people while pretending to be someone with a reasonable question. Not to mention that you can't justify what you say yourself- you repeated the accusation of feminism just to bait me, although you still haven't been able to back it up with anything other than gaslighting.RobertBobert said: That is, you literally thought out my words for me in order to be able to attack me for it, although I speak directly about other people and do not express my opinion about this position? Classic. Do you realize that you now sound like a fanatic who is looking for an excuse to hunt witches? You're still doing what I complained about. Where are these other people and why weren't they directly mentioned in the first post? I don't care about your persecution complex, so I'm not going to bother with the whole "fanatic" business other than saying I don't know how "why do you complain about feminism so much" and "where are these other people you keep talking about" don't seem like fanatical statements to me. |
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RobertBobert said: Epiccgaymer said: So now you insist that I literally give you links and names of other people and explain every little thing just because you are trying to persecute me for linking to their opinion? You act like a bully looking for excuses to pick on people while pretending to be someone with a reasonable question. Not to mention that you can't justify what you say yourself- you repeated the accusation of feminism just to bait me, although you still haven't been able to back it up with anything other than gaslighting.You're still doing what I complained about. Where are these other people and why weren't they directly mentioned in the first post? I don't care about your persecution complex, so I'm not going to bother with the whole "fanatic" business other than saying I don't know how "why do you complain about feminism so much" and "where are these other people you keep talking about" don't seem like fanatical statements to me. Sorry for being unreasonable and asking you to promise evidence for your claims. I mentioned feminism because anyone who did so little as read your earlier posts on the thread can see you like the complain about them and the wider subject of 'woke' stuff. I fail to see how its gaslighting to talk about stuff you yourself brought up |
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Epiccgaymer said: So, you are fucking with me so hard that in one comment you demand sources from me for accidentally mentioning someone else's opinion (manipulatively presenting it as my statements) and at the same time trying to avoid having to confirm your DIRECT accusations by hiding behind "well, anyone can see this"? Ahaha, nice try. This is my last reply to you.RobertBobert said: So now you insist that I literally give you links and names of other people and explain every little thing just because you are trying to persecute me for linking to their opinion? You act like a bully looking for excuses to pick on people while pretending to be someone with a reasonable question. Not to mention that you can't justify what you say yourself- you repeated the accusation of feminism just to bait me, although you still haven't been able to back it up with anything other than gaslighting. Sorry for being unreasonable and asking you to promise evidence for your claims. I mentioned feminism because anyone who did so little as read your earlier posts on the thread can see you like the complain about them and the wider subject of 'woke' stuff. I fail to see how its gaslighting to talk about stuff you yourself brought up |
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RobertBobert said: I apologise for not holding myself to the standard I held you, but I considered it to be self-evident based on your many whinges about feminism within this thread itself. If you wish, I'll quote them all here.Epiccgaymer said: So, you are fucking with me so hard that in one comment you demand sources from me for accidentally mentioning someone else's opinion (manipulatively presenting it as my statements) and at the same time trying to avoid having to confirm your DIRECT accusations by hiding behind "well, anyone can see this"? Ahaha, nice try. This is my last reply to you.Sorry for being unreasonable and asking you to promise evidence for your claims. I mentioned feminism because anyone who did so little as read your earlier posts on the thread can see you like the complain about them and the wider subject of 'woke' stuff. I fail to see how its gaslighting to talk about stuff you yourself brought up RobertBobert said: The existence of a strong and independent woman is being whined about already as is the West.Judging by the official announcement and the first trailer, this show will be the next Gundam with a female protagonist. Speculating on the visual, a tough female pilot from Zion. It looks a bit like a development from the original draft of Suletta as a badass female military commander, but regardless, what do you think? Since the past and first show with a female protagonist broke a lot of copies due to yuri and writing, do you expect anything in advance from the new heroine? As far as I can see, since the show will be mostly produced by western animators and the design of the girl is quite western, some have already begun to worry that she will copy western "strong and independent women" gymmick, if you know what I mean. RobertBobert said: Again, whining about "woke" people and the use of "even for non-political reasons' further implies a fixation about some sort of political aspect to this.IssunWriter993 said: I don't know if I need glasses, but you obviously need to be less rude. And trust me dude. I've seen so many woke people among the most "manly men" and so many based people among the most "gae gay" that it doesn't mean anything. You can agree or disagree with paranoia, but there is always a chance to destroy everything, even for non-political reasons.??? you need glasses man, that's not what remotely what I'm saying. Just you know Warhammer isn't exactly woke or whatever so that moron screeching about leftists propaganda makes no sense. It doesn't take a genius to realise the "some people" you keep referring to is just you |
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| I've been watching it, she honestly isn't that bad - tough, caring and very much Femshep as a Zeon pilot. The issue for me has been honestly I'm just not feeling much for the show, most the character's are pretty poorly executed. The animation isn't very good, extremely wooden and stiff animation for the people and whilst the modeling for the Mecha and Hard Surfaces looks great there animation is a bit floaty - and doesn't feel exceptionally grounded. The story is also pretty much a snooze fest - for me if we are gonna follow Zeon (again) I need to get some weight in the writing. It just feels like it won't really tackle or attempt to tackle the issue with the Zeon faction and what they represent. Hell it hasn't even brought up what they did in Origin and the literally beginning of the first show from 79. Maybe it'll improve in the last two episodes but sadly as it is the last two mecha I watched this season Rose of the Recapture and now Gundam Requiem for Vengeance have both been poorly executed. At least Rose of the Recapture looked prettier. |
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I've been watching it, she honestly isn't that bad - tough, caring and very much Femshep as a Zeon pilot. The issue for me has been honestly I'm just not feeling much for the show, most the character's are pretty poorly executed. The animation isn't very good, extremely wooden and stiff animation for the people and whilst the modeling for the Mecha and Hard Surfaces looks great there animation is a bit floaty - and doesn't feel exceptionally grounded.
The story is also pretty much a snooze fest - for me if we are gonna follow Zeon (again) I need to get some weight in the writing. It just feels like it won't really tackle or attempt to tackle the issue with the Zeon faction and what they represent. Hell it hasn't even brought up what they did in Origin and the literally beginning of the first show from 79.
Maybe it'll improve in the last two episodes but sadly as it is the last two mecha I watched this season Rose of the Recapture and now Gundam Requiem for Vengeance have both been poorly executed. At least Rose of the Recapture looked prettier.
The story is also pretty much a snooze fest - for me if we are gonna follow Zeon (again) I need to get some weight in the writing. It just feels like it won't really tackle or attempt to tackle the issue with the Zeon faction and what they represent. Hell it hasn't even brought up what they did in Origin and the literally beginning of the first show from 79.
Maybe it'll improve in the last two episodes but sadly as it is the last two mecha I watched this season Rose of the Recapture and now Gundam Requiem for Vengeance have both been poorly executed. At least Rose of the Recapture looked prettier.
| @AnimePedestrian I'm currently rewatching the original 79 to refresh my memory and don't even know what show I should pick this up after. |
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@AnimePedestrian I'm currently rewatching the original 79 to refresh my memory and don't even know what show I should pick this up after.
| @RobertBobert Yeah, like how do I put this Requiem is only super off putting as its a CGI nightmare fuel. The story as of right now is super inoffensive almost in a passively putting oneself to sleep way. We are talking about Gundam here, not Naruto. Gundam always been a show with a point - its anti war, pro reform, it can be so much more than this dull show. Compare this to Hathaway, Chars Counter Attack, War in the Pocket, Origins and it pales in comparison. And if you look at something like 8th Ms Team or Stardust Memory which are certainly on the 'less engaged and smart shows/movies' at least they look fantastic as anime. With a gritty art style, that is peak Mecha. It sad as this show could have been great, in fact if this was the show that took the place of Witch of Mercury - with that budget, and length - I could even see this show growing into a real modern classic. But the animation, voice acting and the limited run time kills any chance this story/series had. Then again War in the Pocket told a tight and well executed story in its short window so maybe there is something that was more fundamentally wrong with the script. |
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@RobertBobert
Yeah, like how do I put this Requiem is only super off putting as its a CGI nightmare fuel. The story as of right now is super inoffensive almost in a passively putting oneself to sleep way.
We are talking about Gundam here, not Naruto. Gundam always been a show with a point - its anti war, pro reform, it can be so much more than this dull show.
Compare this to Hathaway, Chars Counter Attack, War in the Pocket, Origins and it pales in comparison.
And if you look at something like 8th Ms Team or Stardust Memory which are certainly on the 'less engaged and smart shows/movies' at least they look fantastic as anime. With a gritty art style, that is peak Mecha.
It sad as this show could have been great, in fact if this was the show that took the place of Witch of Mercury - with that budget, and length - I could even see this show growing into a real modern classic. But the animation, voice acting and the limited run time kills any chance this story/series had.
Then again War in the Pocket told a tight and well executed story in its short window so maybe there is something that was more fundamentally wrong with the script.
Yeah, like how do I put this Requiem is only super off putting as its a CGI nightmare fuel. The story as of right now is super inoffensive almost in a passively putting oneself to sleep way.
We are talking about Gundam here, not Naruto. Gundam always been a show with a point - its anti war, pro reform, it can be so much more than this dull show.
Compare this to Hathaway, Chars Counter Attack, War in the Pocket, Origins and it pales in comparison.
And if you look at something like 8th Ms Team or Stardust Memory which are certainly on the 'less engaged and smart shows/movies' at least they look fantastic as anime. With a gritty art style, that is peak Mecha.
It sad as this show could have been great, in fact if this was the show that took the place of Witch of Mercury - with that budget, and length - I could even see this show growing into a real modern classic. But the animation, voice acting and the limited run time kills any chance this story/series had.
Then again War in the Pocket told a tight and well executed story in its short window so maybe there is something that was more fundamentally wrong with the script.
| @AnimePedestrian Do you think that subjectively this is inferior even to the Witch? |
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@AnimePedestrian Do you think that subjectively this is inferior even to the Witch?
| @RobertBobert I mean... Okay so I've not seen witch but it did look a lot better animated that Vengeance. So I think objectionably Witch is the better animated show, possibly better voice acted or scored I don't know about that. And again the story, I wouldn't know. But on the fundamentals of anime... The animation Vengeance is really bad. Even read a Forbes article about it. It appears only the primary criticism is it just looks ugly. When you think this show is competing with everything else airing or set to air soon or just aired I think it's clear this anime gonna get lost in the haze. |
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@RobertBobert
I mean... Okay so I've not seen witch but it did look a lot better animated that Vengeance. So I think objectionably Witch is the better animated show, possibly better voice acted or scored I don't know about that.
And again the story, I wouldn't know.
But on the fundamentals of anime... The animation Vengeance is really bad. Even read a Forbes article about it.
It appears only the primary criticism is it just looks ugly. When you think this show is competing with everything else airing or set to air soon or just aired I think it's clear this anime gonna get lost in the haze.
I mean... Okay so I've not seen witch but it did look a lot better animated that Vengeance. So I think objectionably Witch is the better animated show, possibly better voice acted or scored I don't know about that.
And again the story, I wouldn't know.
But on the fundamentals of anime... The animation Vengeance is really bad. Even read a Forbes article about it.
It appears only the primary criticism is it just looks ugly. When you think this show is competing with everything else airing or set to air soon or just aired I think it's clear this anime gonna get lost in the haze.
| @AnimePedestrian So, if I understand you correctly, I shouldn't rush to stumble through the UC anime to get to this? At one time I didn’t go further than 0079 and so now I want to rewatch it to add it to my anime list and move on progressively. I also wanted to watch SEED again, I dropped that at the time, but as far as I understand, the original shows can be watched at any time. |
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