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| I still wonder what Misha did to get the attention of both Lungmen and Reunion, but good that she has Rhodes Island to help her out. Some interesting themes this episode, they explored the difference between Reunion and Rhodes Island, despite them both consisting of Infected people. Reunion is just something that spreads lies and false hope so people can grasp it, while Rhodes Island is grounded in realism. I do hope Misha and Rhodes Island can get to safety and Misha can get treatment, but I highly doubt they're out of trouble. |
| Aaaaaand that's a wrap for Episode 5, now that Rhodes Island got some assistance from Penguin Logistics, they've finally got some more people to cover Misha's extraction. Though, they are still far from safe, and it seems like Misha is a high priority target for Reunion as well. I'm very glad about Apple Pie (Exusiai) and my girl Lupo Ice Queen (Texas) having their debut here, really made my day. But yeah, definitely looking forward to the next episodes, keep it up, Yostar Pictures! Loved this little scene when Exu took a bite of Texas' pocky stick, hehe  |
| This was probably the weakest episode so far, because the direction and animation took a slight dip. There was a lot of context in the early part they skipped, which made it feel rushed and without real connection. On the good part, the Skullshatterer and Misha stuff was nice and the consequences of Oripathy in Misha going out of control was very important to show what we are really dealing with instead of just talking about it. |
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| i still don't see where they are going with this, with only 3 episodes left. |
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StateofOhayo said: i still don't see where they are going with this, with only 3 episodes left. After seeing the pace of first three episodes, it was easy to tell (for those familiar with AK storyline) where the anime is going to end. It will be a good place to end but unless there are more seasons after this, this will become "Go play the game!" advertisement anime. Though with just 8 episodes, the anime has been doing solid job telling the early game storyline. |
| As much as I'm fan of arknights, this anime is looking kinda terrible. It came down to me in this episode when I started jumping seconds due to impatience. It's sooo slow, like, everything really. The soundtrack seems like it's trying to make you take a nap. The characters or anything simply have no background nor context, I just know them cause I already play arknights, but technically speaking it's so lackluster. It's a real shame to me. I will continue watching and hoping for it to get better, what can happen, but the series (already episode 5) is already a wasted potential. Like, I can't see someone who doesn't play the game wanting to play it after this, much on the contrary and that's so sad. |
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| Exceptionally bad episode even for this show's standards. Literally nothing happened and while nothing was happening it was poorly animated and poorly acted as well. They ought to start adding some interest other than weak plot "lines" that don't develop or am gonna drop this show soon |
| Liked it! Pretty good episode. Finally got a bit more action and the dialogue felt more meaningful and grabbed my interest better than the last couple of eps, which were boring as heck. The new aspect of this show that I'm starting to enjoy is all the politics. At first, it was just "good guys vs. bad guys", but there's clearly a lot more to it than that and I'm becoming more and more curious as to the enemies' motives, individually and as a whole. Gonna keep watching, see you all next ep! |
Odd_ManNov 25, 2022 4:38 PM
| There is 3 more episodes in this series. I wonder if this series will wrap up any good? But still a decent episode nonetheless. |
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| Confidence! Well, seems the enemy knows Bear!!! kekeke |
| animation is bad for this episode but ye most anime have bad animation after few episodes in the beginning anyway |
| EH?! Not a single "APPLE PIE!" line from my girl Exusiai. Good to see Exusiai and Texas animated though... A bit of a spoiler about Misha although it has been hinted on this episode. Also if you want more spoilers. |
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| Not gonna lie, this episode was rough to watch. Animation is a downgrade, pacing feels very weird, and the whole thing just doesn't feel connected in a weird fashion. The weakest episode so far, but after good 4 previous episodes, I can still let this off the hook. With things going, as an anime-only fan, I guess the last boss will be that full face masked person (I assume a woman from her voice and slender legs). I thought the final fight will be Rhodes vs Talulah, but that sounds rushed so all I'm asking is for the show to end on a good note. |
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| Honestly no complain.. This episode was just as how I remember them in the game with the Goofy Exusui taking them thru the roofs LMAO OhWhenDidiAsk said: im very sad exu didn't say Apple pie ;-; Yea.. But we at least now know that Exusui DP is a freaking Apple Pie.  |
UkRsNov 26, 2022 11:25 PM
| Sweet home Texas! |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| It does seem that the partnership with the defense force is in name only. Given the oppression its no surprise that Reunion would have plenty of supporters within the slums. But to counter that its nice to see operators from penguin logistics here to help them. So there are different types of oripathy as well then. If Misha had left it she would eventually have become infected as well. If anything the lore of Arknights does a great job at showing the rifts within society that divide the two factions. Some saviors of the infected Reunion aspires to be though when they use force on those infected that don't buy their BS. But at the same time this shows why Rhode island's operators are so loyal to the cause. Overall I liked this ep and felt that it featured a nice balance of action, lore and character intros with a nice emphasis on what divided the two sides and how they treat people. Franka had quite a lot of lines but Ai Kakuma shined in her portrayal of her. |
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| Man why does bunny girl even bother saving anyone? It's not like anyone ever appreciates what she does save for the "Dakutah" and Misha here. Oh look its that wolf and angle girl that are in all that f*cked up hentai. |
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| Still trying to keep Misha saved. Wow they have Pocky (Qoocky) in this universe 🤣 |
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| Man my impatience thread keeps aging really well. Everyone wants everything to be answered right away. It really is sad where the state of people has gone. We all need answers right away and nonstop action. Can't ever have a slow paced atmospheric show with mystery surrounding the world and characters. No we all need one note easy to read characters that fit archetypes. Example. Who is Misha? Why is she being chased? I don't know just watch the show and find out. Does that need to be explained right away? Almost every complaint I have seen comes from the show leaving stuff out and expecting the viewer to maybe have a brain and realize that the real world is complicated. Arknights doesn't just put everything on a silver platter. You have to either figure it out yourself or wait. It isn't that hard. |
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| Still not really sure where its going with this Misha character. |
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Inorichi said: Calal-Chan said: Man my impatience thread keeps aging really well. Everyone wants everything to be answered right away. It really is sad where the state of people has gone. We all need answers right away and nonstop action. Can't ever have a slow paced atmospheric show with mystery surrounding the world and characters. No we all need one note easy to read characters that fit archetypes. Example. Who is Misha? Why is she being chased? I don't know just watch the show and find out. Does that need to be explained right away? Almost every complaint I have seen comes from the show leaving stuff out and expecting the viewer to maybe have a brain and realize that the real world is complicated. Arknights doesn't just put everything on a silver platter. You have to either figure it out yourself or wait. It isn't that hard. lol it's not about impatience or gratification, it's about interest. The Arknights anime presents itself with the mysterious doctor and RI's attempt at extracting dr from Chernobog. This is the bare exposition to the plot and what piques the audience's interest. Then the anime goes fuckall let's go to lungmen without explaining anything about RI, anything about the main character and their goals. They present questions to the audience. Who is the doctor? Who are RI? Why are they going to Lungmen? Then go on to the next arc which develops new questions like "Who is Misha" without ever elaborating. It's an issue of proper narrative structure, not anything to do with the "state of people" Nothing about the plot is known after 5 of 8 episodes, thats the problem. Some of those things are even explained. Who are RI for example. RI is a group of people set on trying to help infected people. The show literally info dumps this. Who is Misha as I said above doesn't need to be answered the episode she is introduced and you are going to learn more about her in literally the next episodes. Who is the doctor is, is a big mystery throughout the entire thing so answering that right away wouldn't make sense either. Nothing about the plot is revealed? I just don't think you were paying that much attention. We get to learn about multiple factions who are in war due to different ideals. We learn about tons of different world building on what being infected is like. We learn that Amiyas goal is to help infected. So your statement "Then the anime goes fuckall let's go to lungmen without explaining anything about RI, anything about the main character and their goals." Is just flat out wrong. I will repeat again just to be clear. It is obvious 5 episodes in that there goal is to help infected people. They are then going to lungmen for that purpose as well and are trying to work with the LGD against reunion. They find Misha who is infected so this is who they are after. Obviously I can't say how they connect but the next episodes as I continue to repeat will. Either way Evalith has already answered a ton of info that you can gather from the anime quite easily that you have just disregarded. So yeah I very much think it is impatience and the reason I picked the Misha comment out is that it is clear you need everything answered right away when the whole point is they don't even know who she is. By the end of the arc you will know who she is. And why she connects to the story. You will also learn even more more about RI and the LGD as they communicate through the arc. Which as Evalith already stated was partially answered in episode 3 if you just put context together. You get more of that context as the arc continues. I honestly can't understand peoples confusion and impatience. It isn't that hard. If you don't enjoy it that is fine but coming up with incredibly nitpicky things that are already either answered or are a huge mystery element of the story seems really petty to me. |
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Inorichi said: Calal-Chan said: Some of those things are even explained. Who are RI for example. RI is a group of people set on trying to help infected people. The show literally info dumps this. Who is Misha as I said above doesn't need to be answered the episode she is introduced and you are going to learn more about her in literally the next episodes. Who is the doctor is, is a big mystery throughout the entire thing so answering that right away wouldn't make sense either. Nothing about the plot is revealed? I just don't think you were paying that much attention. We get to learn about multiple factions who are in war due to different ideals. We learn about tons of different world building on what being infected is like. We learn that Amiyas goal is to help infected. So your statement "Then the anime goes fuckall let's go to lungmen without explaining anything about RI, anything about the main character and their goals." Is just flat out wrong. I will repeat again just to be clear. It is obvious 5 episodes in that there goal is to help infected people. They are then going to lungmen for that purpose as well and are trying to work with the LGD against reunion. They find Misha who is infected so this is who they are after. Obviously I can't say how they connect but the next episodes as I continue to repeat will. Either way Evalith has already answered a ton of info that you can gather from the anime quite easily that you have just disregarded. So yeah I very much think it is impatience and the reason I picked the Misha comment out is that it is clear you need everything answered right away when the whole point is they don't even know who she is. By the end of the arc you will know who she is. And why she connects to the story. You will also learn even more more about RI and the LGD as they communicate through the arc. Which as Evalith already stated was partially answered in episode 3 if you just put context together. You get more of that context as the arc continues. I honestly can't understand peoples confusion and impatience. It isn't that hard. If you don't enjoy it that is fine but coming up with incredibly nitpicky things that are already either answered or are a huge mystery element of the story seems really petty to me. Lack of Explanation != Mystery Saying the Doctor has amnesia is an element of mystery. Their past is unknown. However, that is not an explanation or reason for the CURRENT doctor to have extremely weak and confusing motives and fly about to Lungmen on an international terrorist hunt without clarifying his/her own motives, goals, or desires. The only thing being disregarded is the point being made. I iterated numerous times that arc related questions like "Who is Misha" does not matter to anyone and will obviously be clarified later. "RI is a group of people set on trying to help infected people.". Helping != World Police Force. Helping people and hunting terrorists are very different. The jump in logic from what they say, to what they do makes little sense. The only thing that's explicitly stated is RI is a Pharma company, which contradicts what happens on screen with RI being more capable than actual armed defenders of the most populous cities. Learning more about Lungmen after they get there is absolutely fine, perfect. But not explaining "Why are we going to Lungmen?" Then ignoring the entire overarching plot and moving onto a side objective regarding Misha for 1-2 eps is just poor narrative structure. Having W appear in episode 3, cutting out all the information about Scout's squad, removing her dialogue about what she got from her interaction with Doctor and Amiya, and using still frames so nothing shows on W's face isn't about impatience or gratification. It's poor series comp. Nothing is 'already' answered. It's poorly implied with lore, which I've stated does not substitute for a plot. Contrary to what I'm saying, I'm actually more or less enjoying Arknights, but just because I like something does not immediately make it 10/10, perfect masterpiece. There are points that the show does well like the art direction given the staff's experience, and parts the show aren't so great such as episode structure and series composition given the "staff's/Hypergryphs?" lack of experience. I'm not going to cover my eyes, pretend it's the best thing ever, and go about re-affirming biased beliefs, this isn't twitter. It's an episode discussion thread, I'm going to bring up the points worthwhile discussing. If you want to disagree, go right ahead. But do it with facts from the anime, not the "people's state of minds". I don't think the Arknights anime is perfect either but I do find most of your complaints here to be stretching and multiple points were answered or are going to be answered. The show tells us that RI isn't just a pharma company by their actions and what they are doing. Not to mention a character says it out loud lol. We don't need the show to info dump us exactly what they are because god knows the show info dumps enough stuff already. Some of your complaints seem to come from the anime apparently not being a good adaptation in some aspects like with W, but if we are being honest the game handles this starting stuff way worse than the adaptation. I am glad you are enjoying it but don't act like your beliefs aren't biased either. Everybody's brain connects and notices different things due to our own bias but you stating "I'm not going to cover my eyes, pretend it's the best thing ever, and go about re-affirming biased beliefs, this isn't twitter." is like putting your opinion on a pedestal like it is better than everyone else's. I just personally find your complaints to be nitpicky considering many are literally answered within the show. Like you pointing out my RI helps infected people saying that them helping people doesn't equal World Police Force. But through the show we can see that just them going out and helping people involves fighting Reunion. Even if they would rather not fight them. So them having to fight and gather people who can makes sense. It is easy to infer this all through context. I guess all in all if you want to agree to disagree I can do that obviously. Though as I said I have complaints about Arknights in general too so I don't think you even realize how much we probably do agree on. I just have gotten tired of people being confused when honestly everything is really quite simple in this show. |
Calal-ChanDec 1, 2022 12:14 PM
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Inorichi said: Calal-Chan said: I don't think the Arknights anime is perfect either but I do find most of your complaints here to be stretching and multiple points were answered or are going to be answered. The show tells us that RI isn't just a pharma company by their actions and what they are doing. Not to mention a character says it out loud lol. We don't need the show to info dump us exactly what they are because god knows the show info dumps enough stuff already. Some of your complaints seem to come from the anime apparently not being a good adaptation in some aspects like with W, but if we are being honest the game handles this starting stuff way worse than the adaptation. I am glad you are enjoying it but don't act like your beliefs aren't biased either. Everybody's brain connects and notices different things due to our own bias but you stating "I'm not going to cover my eyes, pretend it's the best thing ever, and go about re-affirming biased beliefs, this isn't twitter." is like putting your opinion on a pedestal like it is better than everyone else's. I just personally find your complaints to be nitpicky considering many are literally answered within the show. Like you pointing out my RI helps infected people saying that them helping people doesn't equal World Police Force. But through the show we can see that just them going out and helping people involves fighting Reunion. Even if they would rather not fight them. So them having to fight and gather people who can makes sense. It is easy to infer this all through context. I guess all in all if you want to agree to disagree I can do that obviously. Though as I said I have complaints about Arknights in general too so I don't think you even realize how much we probably do agree on. I just have gotten tired of people being confused when honestly everything is really quite simple in this show. I agree that nobody is completely objective and I wasn't trying to put my opinions on a pedestal or anything with that quote, just saying that I'm not looking for confirmation bias and am stating my own opinion with my reasoning. Obviously, I have my own bias view on the anime and others may disagree, but they'll also be able to see my point of view hence the discussions thread. I don't deny that anyone can make the assumption that RI's attempt to help the infected leads them to conflict with Reunion, but the issue is that unless the infected only exist where Reunion go, why is RI going to Lungmen? Why not go to Ursus or Victoria and help the infected there? Why does a pharma company intentionally choose the path which leads to conflict with terrorists? If their goal isn't to fight Reunion, there's no reason to specifically go to Lungmen. If their goal IS to fight Reunion, it would be much more logical for RI to ambush Reunion themselves when Reunion is unprepared, then to attempt to defend a massive city from Reunion who could attack at any time at any place. Yes the audience can make assumptions through the lore given in the show, but these will ultimately be assumptions and are not always correct. A large selling point of Arknights is it's expansive world building, but if you try to view the events of the anime with this broader world view, it makes the audience question why RI is doing what they're doing. Without knowledge of the game, anime only viewers are forced to make assumption after assumption, and the show isn't explicitly leading the viewer on or supplementing them with any new information to help rather completely ignoring these questions while moving onto a subplot with Misha. For the most part, I see where you're coming from, that people can make assumptions about the plot. But what I think is that there simply isn't enough information given to the audience to make good assumptions. Which is the complaint I see most of in discussions, that people that haven't played the game do not understand where the show is going and why. All that is fair. Arknights has always had a fairly week start even in game, but I do think it is a bit weak due to the fact how big Arknights world truly gets. Thanks for being civil. I don't really have much else to add. |
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