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Nov 11, 2022 10:14 PM
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This is a genuine question. I have seen a lot of people saying things such as who is this, and why are we not going to learn about them? Or stuff relating to the doctor. Or Amiya's bad leadership etc. Does every series need to answer everything in one episode? Is it not okay to have some mystery surrounding characters? I honestly don't understand most of the complaints from people as they all just get answered with time. People say oh this is just 8 episodes. Yeah, 8 episodes out of a gigantic story so of course, it isn't going to solve everything right away. You are watching a prologue, not an epilogue.

What are people expecting? People then complain about action like the show needs to have nonstop action to be good. How much instant gratification to people need nowadays?
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Nov 11, 2022 10:22 PM
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Not a lot of people will be patient if their body was turning to crystal
Nov 11, 2022 10:28 PM
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Not a lot of people will be patient if their body was turning to crystal


How do I even respond to this? XD
Nov 11, 2022 10:33 PM
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ikr it's going great i think people should just wait
Nov 11, 2022 11:03 PM
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Bruh! It was episode 3 'n it's true we still don't know a shit bout them, and cuz of this, we can't relate or cry 'n get emotional on their deaths, you understand?
Viewers even don't know how it started or what they're fighting for.

In second half: They were explaining shit like, "we do this 'n that xyz." but not about characters, or story. Plus, I'm not interested in watching something, where we don't even know what's going on, that's why I dropped it.
Nov 11, 2022 11:38 PM
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Bruh! It was episode 3 'n it's true we still don't know a shit bout them, and cuz of this, we can't relate or cry 'n get emotional on their deaths, you understand?
Viewers even don't know how it started or what they're fighting for.

In second half: They were explaining shit like, "we do this 'n that xyz." but not about characters, or story. Plus, I'm not interested in watching something, where we don't even know what's going on, that's why I dropped it.


It is okay I am to someone who needs instant gratification.
Nov 12, 2022 12:28 AM
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Calal-Chan said:
This is a genuine question. I have seen a lot of people saying things such as who is this, and why are we not going to learn about them? Or stuff relating to the doctor. Or Amiya's bad leadership etc. Does every series need to answer everything in one episode? Is it not okay to have some mystery surrounding characters? I honestly don't understand most of the complaints from people as they all just get answered with time. People say oh this is just 8 episodes. Yeah, 8 episodes out of a gigantic story so of course, it isn't going to solve everything right away. You are watching a prologue, not an epilogue.

What are people expecting? People then complain about action like the show needs to have nonstop action to be good. How much instant gratification to people need nowadays?

These series is a massive information overload as it is. I’m completely new to this franchise, and it keeps shoving all this information down my throat all at once. It’s made for some boring episodes. Most series spread the info out, this makes people want to know more and tune in for the next episode.
Nov 12, 2022 12:59 AM
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Koduh said:
Calal-Chan said:
This is a genuine question. I have seen a lot of people saying things such as who is this, and why are we not going to learn about them? Or stuff relating to the doctor. Or Amiya's bad leadership etc. Does every series need to answer everything in one episode? Is it not okay to have some mystery surrounding characters? I honestly don't understand most of the complaints from people as they all just get answered with time. People say oh this is just 8 episodes. Yeah, 8 episodes out of a gigantic story so of course, it isn't going to solve everything right away. You are watching a prologue, not an epilogue.

What are people expecting? People then complain about action like the show needs to have nonstop action to be good. How much instant gratification to people need nowadays?

These series is a massive information overload as it is. I’m completely new to this franchise, and it keeps shoving all this information down my throat all at once. It’s made for some boring episodes. Most series spread the info out, this makes people want to know more and tune in for the next episode.


Feel free to ask me some questions then. If it is something I can answer without massive spoilers I will do so. This series is actually pretty simple once you get into it anyway. And the show will eventually get better about to much information. But as I said above most complaints to come from that but come from just not being able to understand anything. When again it really isn't that complicated.
Nov 12, 2022 1:02 AM
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Calal-Chan said:
Koduh said:

These series is a massive information overload as it is. I’m completely new to this franchise, and it keeps shoving all this information down my throat all at once. It’s made for some boring episodes. Most series spread the info out, this makes people want to know more and tune in for the next episode.


Feel free to ask me some questions then. If it is something I can answer without massive spoilers I will do so. This series is actually pretty simple once you get into it anyway. And the show will eventually get better about to much information. But as I said above most complaints to come from that but come from just not being able to understand anything. When again it really isn't that complicated.

It’s just the way they wrote the episodes made them super boring. Many anime’s leave stuff out on purpose so episodes won’t feel too heavy, and for fans to look forward to finding out new things. This anime leaves little to be excited about, especially for people new to the franchise.
Nov 12, 2022 1:07 AM

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Koduh said:
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Feel free to ask me some questions then. If it is something I can answer without massive spoilers I will do so. This series is actually pretty simple once you get into it anyway. And the show will eventually get better about to much information. But as I said above most complaints to come from that but come from just not being able to understand anything. When again it really isn't that complicated.

It’s just the way they wrote the episodes made them super boring. Many anime’s leave stuff out on purpose so episodes won’t feel too heavy, and for fans to look forward to finding out new things. This anime leaves little to be excited about, especially for people new to the franchise.


I obviously disagree, but to each their own. I enjoy a good slow plot driven show that requires you to think about a bunch of different things. To many anime hold our hand nowadays and just end up being popcorn action with no substance. So having a show with a ton of depth is great. This is a prologue which sets up potentially over 10 seasons worth of content of rich world building complicated characters and deep lore. This is why the setup is required to have so much. I personally find it more engaging than some other shows that just throw action nonstop. Just don't try to expect to understand every little detail and you wont feel as overwhelmed. Honestly it shouldn't be that hard to understand that a War centered around infected and there different values is what is going on. It really isn't that complex. That is why I said if you have any questions feel free to ask. Like what is actually confusing or overwhelming? Like the other guy is complaining about not knowing enough and you are saying something different. So I am confused myself.
Nov 12, 2022 1:31 AM

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Can't really blame them tho. Reading the prologue for the first time bored me too. I feel like I'm only enjoying the anime just because I know the characters and the lore.
Nov 13, 2022 8:55 PM
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Ursus.
It literally says U R sus.

I do like the series though. I feel like I am missing a big chunk of info, but I don't feel annoyed by it.
Nov 13, 2022 9:24 PM

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Ursus.
It literally says U R sus.

I do like the series though. I feel like I am missing a big chunk of info, but I don't feel annoyed by it.


U R SUS YOOOOOOO so true.
Nov 16, 2022 3:21 AM

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Calal-Chan said:
Does every series need to answer everything in one episode? Is it not okay to have some mystery surrounding characters?

For most of 12-episode anime you can tell is it interesting to you or not in a 3 episodes and for 8-episode anime it is unforgivable to be boring and empty as Arknights anime looks like. Characters not surrounded by mystery but are plain cardboard cut-outs with no personality.

P.S. I’m Arknights fan for a 2+ years, but anime is really bad.
Nov 16, 2022 4:28 AM

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KnightmareNEKO said:
Calal-Chan said:
Does every series need to answer everything in one episode? Is it not okay to have some mystery surrounding characters?

For most of 12-episode anime you can tell is it interesting to you or not in a 3 episodes and for 8-episode anime it is unforgivable to be boring and empty as Arknights anime looks like. Characters not surrounded by mystery but are plain cardboard cut-outs with no personality.

P.S. I’m Arknights fan for a 2+ years, but anime is really bad.


If you were an arknights fan you would know the anime is doing a much better job than what the game does at the start. Us Arknight fans all know the beginning struggles a little bit but saying the anime which by far exceeds how the game does it, is bad is disingenuous. It makes me think you don't even remember how poorly the game does it. Also if this show does continue and adapt when the game starts improving story-wise the beginning isn't even that bad because it is a prologue. It even says Prelude to Dawn. It is an introduction to what is a gigantic world and potentially hundreds of episodes of content. So no I don't think saying just 3 episodes is enough for something that has barely scratched the surface.

And if you truly had played the game you know the characters don't continue to stay plain cardboard cut-outs as again this is just an introduction to the setting and even in it in the second half it should start exploring the characters more just like the game did. Arknights has always been a slow burn. Always was and always will be. And I for one enjoy slow-burn atmospheric shows. Like you must hate how the game does it lol.

Nov 16, 2022 5:04 AM

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A total of 8 episodes and we're encroaching the halfway point. Some are just too curious to know more. To me, I don't think these concerns are ever gonna get fleshed out in these 8 eps and that further installment is needed if you don't play the game.




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Nov 16, 2022 10:55 AM

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Nothing like judging a show that is only 4 episodes in, with a story that we know would take about 100 episodes so far, as being slow confusing and boring.

Whenever the tags are action and fantasy people now expect a 30 second narration that breaks the 4th wall and explains everything about a simple, easy to understand world.

I didn't love shows like Darker than Black (for a myriad of other reasons), but even I believe that stories in which you know almost nothing about what is happening are very good in the end.

It also fits with the dokutah's amnesia condition. Have a little patience people. If you hold the same opinion after the 8th episode then so be it. I would disagree though.
Nov 16, 2022 4:08 PM
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Ikr xD, people are so impatient to know the plot and most of Arknights player giggles seeing em hahah
Nov 16, 2022 10:23 PM
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Here is the fact:

This anime is made for AK players only.
So what do they expect? What do I expect?
They know the stuff.
We don't.
Nov 17, 2022 3:11 AM

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Calal-Chan said:
KnightmareNEKO said:

For most of 12-episode anime you can tell is it interesting to you or not in a 3 episodes and for 8-episode anime it is unforgivable to be boring and empty as Arknights anime looks like. Characters not surrounded by mystery but are plain cardboard cut-outs with no personality.

P.S. I’m Arknights fan for a 2+ years, but anime is really bad.


If you were an arknights fan you would know the anime is doing a much better job than what the game does at the start. Us Arknight fans all know the beginning struggles a little bit but saying the anime which by far exceeds how the game does it, is bad is disingenuous. It makes me think you don't even remember how poorly the game does it. Also if this show does continue and adapt when the game starts improving story-wise the beginning isn't even that bad because it is a prologue. It even says Prelude to Dawn. It is an introduction to what is a gigantic world and potentially hundreds of episodes of content. So no I don't think saying just 3 episodes is enough for something that has barely scratched the surface.

And if you truly had played the game you know the characters don't continue to stay plain cardboard cut-outs as again this is just an introduction to the setting and even in it in the second half it should start exploring the characters more just like the game did. Arknights has always been a slow burn. Always was and always will be. And I for one enjoy slow-burn atmospheric shows. Like you must hate how the game does it lol.


I’m judging arknights ANIME only from ANIME point of view. Every adaptation must be watchable in isolation from original content.
Nov 17, 2022 3:22 AM
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For those who get confused over everything on Arknights: Reimei Zensou, Arknights stroy line isn't linear like any other anime or game in common. For Example, in other anime or game you will be introduced as the MC where you're "absolute good" and your goal is to beat "absolute evil" or some other settings with goal that can be cleared with straight forward approach (everything is so simple even kids can understand). But Arknights is made to be complicated, to be vast, to be mysterious, that you need a whole season to talk about a character's past, motive, and goal.

Arknights story is like a huge puzzle the are so many pieces that you need to collect in order to see "a part" of the story. sometimes we talk about the past (Vigilo, A Walk in The Dust), sometimes we talk about future possibilities (Integrated Srategies Ending). Arknights story isn't for everyone, it targets the people who like hidden plot, world building and mysteries.

I'm sure even the anime won't be made with many seasons(heck, I doubt there'll be 2nd season) because the target audience is too few. Not many people have patience and "brain" to understand wtf is going on in Arknights story












spoiler: you think the only problems that Terra have is only oripathy? LOL, wait until you see what happend in Iberia
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KnightmareNEKO said:
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If you were an arknights fan you would know the anime is doing a much better job than what the game does at the start. Us Arknight fans all know the beginning struggles a little bit but saying the anime which by far exceeds how the game does it, is bad is disingenuous. It makes me think you don't even remember how poorly the game does it. Also if this show does continue and adapt when the game starts improving story-wise the beginning isn't even that bad because it is a prologue. It even says Prelude to Dawn. It is an introduction to what is a gigantic world and potentially hundreds of episodes of content. So no I don't think saying just 3 episodes is enough for something that has barely scratched the surface.

And if you truly had played the game you know the characters don't continue to stay plain cardboard cut-outs as again this is just an introduction to the setting and even in it in the second half it should start exploring the characters more just like the game did. Arknights has always been a slow burn. Always was and always will be. And I for one enjoy slow-burn atmospheric shows. Like you must hate how the game does it lol.


I’m judging arknights ANIME only from ANIME point of view. Every adaptation must be watchable in isolation from original content.


It is plenty watchable as an anime only. If you play the game first you literally experience these 3 episodes before any other content. (I mean other content is literally locked out for the prologue) It was just how the story was set up. And the anime does it better than the game. So I don't see the problem. This was always the weakest part, but that is fine because it is set up for future events. I don't see the problem with that. It is a slow burn with lots of mystery elements. It was always gonna have a few confusing things. The only way it continues to get better is if they continue adapting it, because the story continually improves with time. Sometimes set up is needed for a gigantic story. And as the adaptation improves the source material for the most part I would say it is a success.
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Crucix_Aphoris said:
For those who get confused over everything on Arknights: Reimei Zensou, Arknights stroy line isn't linear like any other anime or game in common. For Example, in other anime or game you will be introduced as the MC where you're "absolute good" and your goal is to beat "absolute evil" or some other settings with goal that can be cleared with straight forward approach (everything is so simple even kids can understand). But Arknights is made to be complicated, to be vast, to be mysterious, that you need a whole season to talk about a character's past, motive, and goal.

Arknights story is like a huge puzzle the are so many pieces that you need to collect in order to see "a part" of the story. sometimes we talk about the past (Vigilo, A Walk in The Dust), sometimes we talk about future possibilities (Integrated Srategies Ending). Arknights story isn't for everyone, it targets the people who like hidden plot, world building and mysteries.

I'm sure even the anime won't be made with many seasons(heck, I doubt there'll be 2nd season) because the target audience is too few. Not many people have patience and "brain" to understand wtf is going on in Arknights story












spoiler: you think the only problems that Terra have is only oripathy? LOL, wait until you see what happend in Iberia


It is sad that you might be right on it not getting another season. But honestly I see passion in this so you never know. It is by far the best gacha game adaptation. Most are either originals or cut so much content it ends up being trash.
Nov 17, 2022 3:56 AM

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Here is the fact:

This anime is made for AK players only.
So what do they expect? What do I expect?
They know the stuff.
We don't.


It really isn't. The game was just as confusing at this point. The anime actually streamlines it in my opinion. Arknights is meant to be a bit confusing at the start. I think in the second half it is less confusing and the farther it continues the more plot threads get revealed.
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It is plenty watchable as an anime only. If you play the game first you literally experience these 3 episodes before any other content. (I mean other content is literally locked out for the prologue) It was just how the story was set up. And the anime does it better than the game. So I don't see the problem. This was always the weakest part, but that is fine because it is set up for future events. I don't see the problem with that. It is a slow burn with lots of mystery elements. It was always gonna have a few confusing things. The only way it continues to get better is if they continue adapting it, because the story continually improves with time. Sometimes set up is needed for a gigantic story. And as the adaptation improves the source material for the most part I would say it is a success.

No, it isn't. They had opportunity to remake prologue, to change it's pacing, make it more interesting. Also, no information doesn't automatically count as mystery хD
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Instant gratification is why. People are so used to consuming lame LN adaptation or formulaic shonen anime that they're unable to digest anime that slowly gives you infromation overtime. Heck i'll even argue show like steins;gate will perform poorly among current anime watcher because that show takes like, what, 10 ep before the REAL plot starts kicking.
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KnightmareNEKO said:
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It is plenty watchable as an anime only. If you play the game first you literally experience these 3 episodes before any other content. (I mean other content is literally locked out for the prologue) It was just how the story was set up. And the anime does it better than the game. So I don't see the problem. This was always the weakest part, but that is fine because it is set up for future events. I don't see the problem with that. It is a slow burn with lots of mystery elements. It was always gonna have a few confusing things. The only way it continues to get better is if they continue adapting it, because the story continually improves with time. Sometimes set up is needed for a gigantic story. And as the adaptation improves the source material for the most part I would say it is a success.

No, it isn't. They had opportunity to remake prologue, to change it's pacing, make it more interesting. Also, no information doesn't automatically count as mystery хD


You okay to just agree to disagree then?
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Instant gratification is why. People are so used to consuming lame LN adaptation or formulaic shonen anime that they're unable to digest anime that slowly gives you infromation overtime. Heck i'll even argue show like steins;gate will perform poorly among current anime watcher because that show takes like, what, 10 ep before the REAL plot starts kicking.


People really need that instant gratification for sure.
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AugustinusR said:
Instant gratification is why. People are so used to consuming lame LN adaptation or formulaic shonen anime that they're unable to digest anime that slowly gives you infromation overtime. Heck i'll even argue show like steins;gate will perform poorly among current anime watcher because that show takes like, what, 10 ep before the REAL plot starts kicking.


Now thats... thats actually an interesting point to make, might make a good argument for the slow progression here. However, it doesn't defend the fact that arknights anime is a hit or miss on the hook and plot, many seem to compare it as a game playthrough. Imo we don't have to call out people being impatient, it is the show's job the keep the viewers hooked, being a slow burner filters out the viewers to an extent.
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AugustinusR said:
Instant gratification is why. People are so used to consuming lame LN adaptation or formulaic shonen anime that they're unable to digest anime that slowly gives you infromation overtime. Heck i'll even argue show like steins;gate will perform poorly among current anime watcher because that show takes like, what, 10 ep before the REAL plot starts kicking.


People need to expand out into other mediums too or just watch some older long-running shows with reputations. But yes, I agree for the most part.




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AugustinusR said:
Instant gratification is why. People are so used to consuming lame LN adaptation or formulaic shonen anime that they're unable to digest anime that slowly gives you infromation overtime. Heck i'll even argue show like steins;gate will perform poorly among current anime watcher because that show takes like, what, 10 ep before the REAL plot starts kicking.
AugustinusR said:
Instant gratification is why. People are so used to consuming lame LN adaptation or formulaic shonen anime that they're unable to digest anime that slowly gives you infromation overtime. Heck i'll even argue show like steins;gate will perform poorly among current anime watcher because that show takes like, what, 10 ep before the REAL plot starts kicking.


In my opinion, as someone who likes to read manga and watch anime, the very first few episodes decides the rest of the whole series(especially anime or manga adaptation from games or LN). If it's boring, only few people wants to continue watching or reading it (chance are those who know what's going on and big fan of said series). That's why I think that Arknights Reimei Zensou isn't a good watch for someone who isn't a big fan of the game. It's confusing, it's complicated, and not many things are brought to light. I would more prefer if Arknights make an anime based on event stories, like Under the Tides, IS#1 story (it would be light story that easier to enjoy), and other events. Thus it's clearly to be directed to Arknights player.

Aside from that, I agree that we're being used to be served food on our plate. Every plot and characteristic is so clear. We easily define a character's motive, goal, reason, etc. So when we get something like Arknights anime, we get so confused. What do Amiya think of doctor? why Reunion reject and doubt Rhodes Island eventhough they're infected too? We're not so sure. That's what I called 'realistic' and 'human'
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Crucix_Aphoris said:
AugustinusR said:
Instant gratification is why. People are so used to consuming lame LN adaptation or formulaic shonen anime that they're unable to digest anime that slowly gives you infromation overtime. Heck i'll even argue show like steins;gate will perform poorly among current anime watcher because that show takes like, what, 10 ep before the REAL plot starts kicking.
AugustinusR said:
Instant gratification is why. People are so used to consuming lame LN adaptation or formulaic shonen anime that they're unable to digest anime that slowly gives you infromation overtime. Heck i'll even argue show like steins;gate will perform poorly among current anime watcher because that show takes like, what, 10 ep before the REAL plot starts kicking.


In my opinion, as someone who likes to read manga and watch anime, the very first few episodes decides the rest of the whole series(especially anime or manga adaptation from games or LN). If it's boring, only few people wants to continue watching or reading it (chance are those who know what's going on and big fan of said series). That's why I think that Arknights Reimei Zensou isn't a good watch for someone who isn't a big fan of the game. It's confusing, it's complicated, and not many things are brought to light. I would more prefer if Arknights make an anime based on event stories, like Under the Tides, IS#1 story (it would be light story that easier to enjoy), and other events. Thus it's clearly to be directed to Arknights player.

Aside from that, I agree that we're being used to be served food on our plate. Every plot and characteristic is so clear. We easily define a character's motive, goal, reason, etc. So when we get something like Arknights anime, we get so confused. What do Amiya think of doctor? why Reunion reject and doubt Rhodes Island eventhough they're infected too? We're not so sure. That's what I called 'realistic' and 'human'


The beginning of Arknights isn't really all that complicated. It is two factions of infected people with different ideals fighting. What is confusing about that? Undertides is also both way longer and more complicated than anything this first season has to offer not to mention if someone had no knowledge would be even more confused. I truly don't understand why you think that would be easier to get into.

So basically you do agree it is nice to have something that doesn't spoon feed you? I am so confused. Like is your entire comment here satire?
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P.S. I’m Arknights fan for a 2+ years, but anime is really bad.

I don't really know how you came to that conclusion. For a gacha anime I'd say it exceeded all of my expectations as the narrative and pacing of AK storyline and world is already hard to adapt. Only concern is they really need to make more episodes for the next season instead of 8 or 12 episodes.

Then again simply put Arknights isn't for everyone and idk how anime onlies are taking it. Thing is it doesn't spoon feed you what's happening and it relies on you piecing things together to see the bigger picture. And it's a rollercoaster ride from here on out.
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I feel the main issues as always are going to come from the anime-onlies. Making anime is expensive, and this anime, Prelude to Dawn from what I know is a completely in-house production. As such I think the direction they are going for is that this anime was not made to be a purely standalone experience but rather a complementary to the game itself.

And we know how that sort of approach always earns the ire of the legion of hardcore anime-onlies. But aside from that if are already a fan of the story and the setting of AK I think the anime is actually pretty decent.

And I do understand Hypergryph taking this sort of approach to the anime adaptation. AK world is a massive setting with a truly huge amount of lore, worldbuilding, intersecting nations, organizations, and factions intertwined in a complex web of geopolitics that parallels a lot of the complicated irl geopolitical events from our own history (You'll see how most of AK nations are analogies to irl countries). Throw in all the supernatural stuff as well, and you have a truly colossal and complex setting.

A truly good "standalone" Arknights anime adaptation would have to be something very similar to One-Piece (with its copious amounts of episodes) in length. With tons of episodes to flesh out its massive scope of setting and characters. And that's not something Hypergryph can afford. So they instead went with a very condensed approach.

And yeah I was disappointed with the low episode count when we got the info. But this is the best we got. An anime adaptation that truly shines as a complementary to the game rather than this standalone experience many wanted.
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I feel the main issues as always are going to come from the anime-onlies. Making anime is expensive, and this anime, Prelude to Dawn from what I know is a completely in-house production. As such I think the direction they are going for is that this anime was not made to be a purely standalone experience but rather a complementary to the game itself.

And we know how that sort of approach always earns the ire of the legion of hardcore anime-onlies. But aside from that if are already a fan of the story and the setting of AK I think the anime is actually pretty decent.

And I do understand Hypergryph taking this sort of approach to the anime adaptation. AK world is a massive setting with a truly huge amount of lore, worldbuilding, intersecting nations, organizations, and factions intertwined in a complex web of geopolitics that parallels a lot of the complicated irl geopolitical events from our own history (You'll see how most of AK nations are analogies to irl countries). Throw in all the supernatural stuff as well, and you have a truly colossal and complex setting.

A truly good "standalone" Arknights anime adaptation would have to be something very similar to One-Piece (with its copious amounts of episodes) in length. With tons of episodes to flesh out its massive scope of setting and characters. And that's not something Hypergryph can afford. So they instead went with a very condensed approach.

And yeah I was disappointed with the low episode count when we got the info. But this is the best we got. An anime adaptation that truly shines as a complementary to the game rather than this standalone experience many wanted.


All I want to say with the low episode count is that they could do more in the future. If it gets enough support they might continue it. If anything it is better to do it in short bursts rather than have poor animation like one piece did for like a decade.

Everything else I can understand to some degree. Obviously fans will enjoy it more, but I do think as this is just the beginning of the game new people shouldn't struggle that much. It really isn't nearly as confusing as people say.

Like in the top reviews we have someone say this which just confirms people being impatient.
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Everything else I can understand to some degree. Obviously fans will enjoy it more, but I do think as this is just the beginning of the game new people shouldn't struggle that much. It really isn't nearly as confusing as people say.

Like in the top reviews we have someone say this which just confirms people being impatient.


You're calling out my review here, so to clarify: I'm not saying that I'M impatient. I'm saying that I'm expecting the average viewer to be impatient, and am responding to that by offering them a suggestion. You can't deny that the first two episodes are on the slower end, and that the third had scuffed pacing. All of that culminates in a pretty hit-or-miss first impression (as evidenced by the other reviews, not just mine) that requires people to have patience in order to get to what will probably be the meat of the adaptation. So, yeah: It's not that I'M impatient (I've been playing Arknights for a year and a half, so I knew what to expect going into this). It's that based on what I've seen on MAL, Reddit, AniList etc. there are two types of viewers: the ones who wanted the story to get to the good stuff sooner, and the ones who are fine with a more drawn-out experience. The former may not be willing to put up with the slow start, hence what I say in my review.
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Everything else I can understand to some degree. Obviously fans will enjoy it more, but I do think as this is just the beginning of the game new people shouldn't struggle that much. It really isn't nearly as confusing as people say.

Like in the top reviews we have someone say this which just confirms people being impatient.


You're calling out my review here, so to clarify: I'm not saying that I'M impatient. I'm saying that I'm expecting the average viewer to be impatient, and am responding to that by offering them a suggestion. You can't deny that the first two episodes are on the slower end, and that the third had scuffed pacing. All of that culminates in a pretty hit-or-miss first impression (as evidenced by the other reviews, not just mine) that requires people to have patience in order to get to what will probably be the meat of the adaptation. So, yeah: It's not that I'M impatient (I've been playing Arknights for a year and a half, so I knew what to expect going into this). It's that based on what I've seen on MAL, Reddit, AniList etc. there are two types of viewers: the ones who wanted the story to get to the good stuff sooner, and the ones who are fine with a more drawn-out experience. The former may not be willing to put up with the slow start, hence what I say in my review.


And I am saying it is this generation of people who need validation right away for a story to be "good" Arknights is a slow build up, but that build up is still important. So yeah I find most people to be being impatient. And your review expresses the same thing except that you also like it? It feels really contradictory.
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You're calling out my review here, so to clarify: I'm not saying that I'M impatient. I'm saying that I'm expecting the average viewer to be impatient, and am responding to that by offering them a suggestion. You can't deny that the first two episodes are on the slower end, and that the third had scuffed pacing. All of that culminates in a pretty hit-or-miss first impression (as evidenced by the other reviews, not just mine) that requires people to have patience in order to get to what will probably be the meat of the adaptation. So, yeah: It's not that I'M impatient (I've been playing Arknights for a year and a half, so I knew what to expect going into this). It's that based on what I've seen on MAL, Reddit, AniList etc. there are two types of viewers: the ones who wanted the story to get to the good stuff sooner, and the ones who are fine with a more drawn-out experience. The former may not be willing to put up with the slow start, hence what I say in my review.


And I am saying it is this generation of people who need validation right away for a story to be "good" Arknights is a slow build up, but that build up is still important. So yeah I find most people to be being impatient. And your review expresses the same thing except that you also like it? It feels really contradictory.


Speaking as both a writer and a player: of course build-up is important, the issue is that it's poorly executed (just like in-game). Several expositional scenes drag on for way too long, with the worst instance being the second half of Episode 3. Personally I feel like YP shouldn't have focused as much on trying to emulate the story 1:1, because when they don't you can see some smart decisions being made. A weak story will still be weak even if it's adapted into another medium, so it falls on the screenwriters to tweak things for a more enjoyable experience. In this case, overemphasizing exposition during what was supposed to be a tense escape from a devastated city detracted from the atmosphere, especially since the exposition wasn't nearly as visual as it could have been. Honestly I could rant about this for an hour, but I just don't have the time.

Regarding my personal feelings: I knew what to expect, but that doesn't stop me from being concerned with how they're adapting the story. As you can see above I stray towards the 'instant gratification' camp (though in my case, I just wanted them to focus more on presenting an engaging first impression), but I can also see where people are coming from regarding a slower, more artistic approach. That's why I framed it the way I did, so hopefully that clears it up.
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And I am saying it is this generation of people who need validation right away for a story to be "good" Arknights is a slow build up, but that build up is still important. So yeah I find most people to be being impatient. And your review expresses the same thing except that you also like it? It feels really contradictory.


Speaking as both a writer and a player: of course build-up is important, the issue is that it's poorly executed (just like in-game). Several expositional scenes drag on for way too long, with the worst instance being the second half of Episode 3. Personally I feel like YP shouldn't have focused as much on trying to emulate the story 1:1, because when they don't you can see some smart decisions being made. A weak story will still be weak even if it's adapted into another medium, so it falls on the screenwriters to tweak things for a more enjoyable experience. In this case, overemphasizing exposition during what was supposed to be a tense escape from a devastated city detracted from the atmosphere, especially since the exposition wasn't nearly as visual as it could have been. Honestly I could rant about this for an hour, but I just don't have the time.

Regarding my personal feelings: I knew what to expect, but that doesn't stop me from being concerned with how they're adapting the story. As you can see above I stray towards the 'instant gratification' camp (though in my case, I just wanted them to focus more on presenting an engaging first impression), but I can also see where people are coming from regarding a slower, more artistic approach. That's why I framed it the way I did, so hopefully that clears it up.


I mean fair is fair I suppose. I just never thought the start was that initially weak like everyone else. But it is all subjective in the end. I am good to agree to disagree on this if you are. I think we are both fairly civil and can do that. I asked one before and they didn't even respond back. I do appreciate you being nice considering I called out your review specifically xD You have obvioulsy made an informed opinion about it all, but I do stand by quite a few people being close minded on the subject in general.

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Calal-Chan said:
ShinodaChan said:


Speaking as both a writer and a player: of course build-up is important, the issue is that it's poorly executed (just like in-game). Several expositional scenes drag on for way too long, with the worst instance being the second half of Episode 3. Personally I feel like YP shouldn't have focused as much on trying to emulate the story 1:1, because when they don't you can see some smart decisions being made. A weak story will still be weak even if it's adapted into another medium, so it falls on the screenwriters to tweak things for a more enjoyable experience. In this case, overemphasizing exposition during what was supposed to be a tense escape from a devastated city detracted from the atmosphere, especially since the exposition wasn't nearly as visual as it could have been. Honestly I could rant about this for an hour, but I just don't have the time.

Regarding my personal feelings: I knew what to expect, but that doesn't stop me from being concerned with how they're adapting the story. As you can see above I stray towards the 'instant gratification' camp (though in my case, I just wanted them to focus more on presenting an engaging first impression), but I can also see where people are coming from regarding a slower, more artistic approach. That's why I framed it the way I did, so hopefully that clears it up.


I mean fair is fair I suppose. I just never thought the start was that initially weak like everyone else. But it is all subjective in the end. I am good to agree to disagree on this if you are. I think we are both fairly civil and can do that. I asked one before and they didn't even respond back. I do appreciate you being nice considering I called out your review specifically xD You have obvioulsy made an informed opinion about it all, but I do stand by quite a few people being close minded on the subject in general.

Ps ignore spelling errors I am too lazy today lol


Yeah, I'm fine with that. Just wanted to hop in and clarify some stuff since I saw my review get brought up; no malice intended.
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I mean fair is fair I suppose. I just never thought the start was that initially weak like everyone else. But it is all subjective in the end. I am good to agree to disagree on this if you are. I think we are both fairly civil and can do that. I asked one before and they didn't even respond back. I do appreciate you being nice considering I called out your review specifically xD You have obvioulsy made an informed opinion about it all, but I do stand by quite a few people being close minded on the subject in general.

Ps ignore spelling errors I am too lazy today lol


Yeah, I'm fine with that. Just wanted to hop in and clarify some stuff since I saw my review get brought up; no malice intended.


No malice from me either. Was nice having a great conversation :D
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Because anime is not a game. If it doesn't keep the audience interested in 1-3 Eps, the series may lose interest from people who have never played the game before and they will drop. If having to wait until the second season You think they will come back to watch or not because each season of anime has many stories for them to watch? If the first part of the main story is boring and uninteresting, then why not fix the story to make it more interesting than in the game? Anime that comes from gacha games, if it doesn't make the story interesting from the beginning, will anime only generate interest that wants to play games? Because as far as I can see, the score is constantly decreasing. And the people of the audience are divided into two sides, like and dislike. I'm a bit worried, I just want Arknight to become more popular, if Arknight isn't very successful I'd hope for Blue archive or Genshin, but that's it, I'll see after the season ends. Whatever it is, I hope to get better after this.
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Because anime is not a game. If it doesn't keep the audience interested in 1-3 Eps, the series may lose interest from people who have never played the game before and they will drop. If having to wait until the second season You think they will come back to watch or not because each season of anime has many stories for them to watch?


You just confirmed you are an impatient person who needs instant gratification. I hate this new generation of people expecting that things are just handed to them on a silver platter. Arknights has clearly captured plenty of peoples interest at the start. The fault lies with people expecting all the questions to be answered right away. Or for there to be non stop action constantly. Shows shouldn't have to hold your hand to get the point across. And yeah I do think some people are like that. It is the same reason why plenty of shows have several seasons worth of content. My favorite show HxH 2011 has quite a slow start and doesn't even introduce the power system early like most shounen do yet it is clear tons of people enjoy that style.

So tldr I just think people are impatient and need to learn not everything is meant to be instant. Somethings are meant to simmer and take some time.
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Well dude, I can't relate cuz I'm a computer algorithm, though I do think that it might be the fact that you have limited time on earth. Might be wrong on this one, if anyone wishes to correct me I will be okay with it
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Well dude, I can't relate cuz I'm a computer algorithm, though I do think that it might be the fact that you have limited time on earth. Might be wrong on this one, if anyone wishes to correct me I will be okay with it


This is the best argument here. You deserve and award.
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Who the fuck is calling this anime confusing? Like, how? What is confusing about it? The anime literally does game-like infodumps to clarify what the spectator needs to know at the moment lmao



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yeh I'm seeing a lot crying about the phasing and boring plots or writing...like bruh u keep telling One Piece will get good after u watch like 90 episodes?!? lmao I just can't with these BRUHkids hoho
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the worst anime of the seasons simply because we have no freeakin idea whats goin on
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yeh I'm seeing a lot crying about the phasing and boring plots or writing...like bruh u keep telling One Piece will get good after u watch like 90 episodes?!? lmao I just can't with these BRUHkids hoho


ya bro we should know about trash because we are trash
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Well dude, I can't relate cuz I'm a computer algorithm, though I do think that it might be the fact that you have limited time on earth. Might be wrong on this one, if anyone wishes to correct me I will be okay with it


This is the best argument here. You deserve and award.


retards can't fathom critical thinking..go play with a rubber ball
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