The Executioner and Her Way of Life
BunkerPenguin48 said: Her group is above the top 10% of society which makes it feel like the nobles are the underdogs of the story if she is fighting against them. , I was just curious if anyone else thought that the main characters seemed like they were the bad guys despite being the protagonists… her group isn't about fighting against the nobles. She basically wiped the floor with the noble knights. Her group role is killing the lost one. And to answer your question, her morality is ambiguous at worst. She felt remorse over killing that boy. |
| Well, you know how some "lost one" turned a whole city, including its people, into some white dust. It's pretty justified why they have to kill them, they literally are a threat to the world. |
| hmm not really. yeah she killed an innocent dude but that innocent dude could've done a similar thing as that girl who turned a whole city(?) into dust. better be safe than sorry. its these nobles who are constantly bringing outsiders in and kicking them out without a care in world that concerns me |
| She's merely a tool of this so called "bad guy" |
BunkerPenguin48 said: Spoilers for the first episode. The first Episode was good at first and the world seemed interesting but then the MC Killed an innocent person to maintain their world. It felt more like an excuse to murder than a justified reason to execute. Her group is above the top 10% of society which makes it feel like the nobles are the underdogs of the story if she is fighting against them. The episode made sense but the main characters don’t feel likable at all at the moment and their motives are poor and unjustified. I will still watch more of the show, I don’t think it’s bad or anything, I was just curious if anyone else thought that the main characters seemed like they were the bad guys despite being the protagonists… I, personally, like when the MC is a antagonist or not a really good person. It is always a bit different from what we get in the genre. And seems it is getting popular since there is the other Isekai this season where the MC sides with the demon army. |
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| The incident during her childhood plus the teachings instilled in her are likely the reasons for why she kills despite the knowledge that they are innocent. And to be fair to her, the isekai'd guy seemed to have a not-so-very bright social life and thus the possibility that he could be corrupted by his newfound power arises. |
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Bikuta-san said: I feel you… honestly, the only sensible thing to do isn’t to kill the lost ones but instead to deal with the summoners instead. It’s not like the lost ones came there of their own volition, so why should they be the ones who gets executed. Because they 99% brought the disaster upon the world. There's two part in this world religion organization. one is to deal with their own worlder such as Noblesse and commoner. Where Menou belong to is Executioners.Their job is killing the lost ones. |
| Murdering someone even in the concept of their world is morally grey. So, I would say she's definitely not a good person. |
| It's pretty obvious she's evil. |
Applesaucey said: Potatoboy11 said: Well, you know how some "lost one" turned a whole city, including its people, into some white dust. It's pretty justified why they have to kill them, they literally are a threat to the world. This is a real shit justification, especially when in episode one the "good guys" are also shown to have magic which can melt peoples brains on the drop of a hat, and likely could just as easily level cities. Because they 99% brought the disaster upon the world. There's two part in this world religion organization. one is to deal with their own worlder such as Noblesse and commoner. Where Menou belong to is Executioners.Their job is killing the lost ones. |
| as someone who is sick of isekai, i welcome a series where isekai'd people get killed off. |
| Protesters, assemble!! |
| I mean you can't really say that the mc is a bad person. Cause she admits that the lost ones are innocent and they dont deserve this. Also killing them seems pretty justified cause it was showed in the first ep that the lost ones bring destruction to their world. You are just thinking too much.. |
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Potatoboy11 said: Well, you know how some "lost one" turned a whole city, including its people, into some white dust. It's pretty justified why they have to kill them, they literally are a threat to the world. NATO and USA are a at least a potential threat to the world, not they possess nuclear weapons they used it without justified reason, Japan already lost the war and declared it, so the reason to use arms ? The reaon USA used to wage recent wars (China made a huge lists, more than 20 countries were bombed), destroying Yugoslavia. So yeah people over the world should unite and destroy it as well as NATO etc That logic has too many flaws. The reasons are politics and some who are in power but not the most of innocent people. Killing and feeling guilt isn't justified, people get punished because they hit others with car (unintentionally), so killing others intentiolly really makes you guilty no matter how you look at it, and yeah even others possess threat one can effort not that happening, if that won't work out then use other means, not trying is the problem. The boy may have listened to reason, if not he might be judged. Making accusations or trial others before even they act is redicolous. Reminds me of the movie, where there are people who see the future, so special forces eliminate people before they do wrong. Why eliminate not prevent or restrict somehow people in question. Also circumstaces or cause are not taken into account. |
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FlorMan said: Potatoboy11 said: Well, you know how some "lost one" turned a whole city, including its people, into some white dust. It's pretty justified why they have to kill them, they literally are a threat to the world. The boy died only because the priestess showed him how to use his power. Then the anime tries to put in funny scenes. Pathetic... Even if she don't show, he gonna find out one way or another anyway. |
Innskip said: Potatoboy11 said: Well, you know how some "lost one" turned a whole city, including its people, into some white dust. It's pretty justified why they have to kill them, they literally are a threat to the world. NATO and USA are a at least a potential threat to the world, not they possess nuclear weapons they used it without justified reason, Japan already lost the war and declared it, so the reason to use arms ? The reaon USA used to wage recent wars (China made a huge lists, more than 20 countries were bombed), destroying Yugoslavia. So yeah people over the world should unite and destroy it as well as NATO etc That logic has too many flaws. The reasons are politics and some who are in power but not the most of innocent people. Killing and feeling guilt isn't justified, people get punished because they hit others with car (unintentionally), so killing others intentiolly really makes you guilty no matter how you look at it, and yeah even others possess threat one can effort not that happening, if that won't work out then use other means, not trying is the problem. The boy may have listened to reason, if not he might be judged. Making accusations or trial others before even they act is redicolous. Reminds me of the movie, where there are people who see the future, so special forces eliminate people before they do wrong. Why eliminate not prevent or restrict somehow people in question. Also circumstaces or cause are not taken into account. Are you seriously comparing to a person with a freaking organization and a freaking first-world nation? |
john_kun said: who asked anyway?i drop this anime boring anyway |
Spoilers for the first episode. The first Episode was good at first and the world seemed interesting but then the MC Killed an innocent person to maintain their world. It felt more like an excuse to murder than a justified reason to execute. Her group is above the top 10% of society which makes it feel like the nobles are the underdogs of the story if she is fighting against them. The episode made sense but the main characters don’t feel likable at all at the moment and their motives are poor and unjustified. I will still watch more of the show, I don’t think it’s bad or anything, I was just curious if anyone else thought that the main characters seemed like they were the bad guys despite being the protagonists… She is an executioner, an executioner is a person who executes people who have been sentenced to death, would you blame the death of a sentenced to death of the guy who gave him the lethal injection? of course not it is the fault of the law in that world she just does her job. |
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Blandmob said: But u know, instead of killing him after suddenly showing him that he got great power because he said he just some ordinary useless dude, she can just u know, guide him slowly and tell him to not use the power recklessly and use it for good deeds, and maybe she can recruit him to join the church and eradicate these noble that are summoning these lost ones That kinda sounds like beginning of Akame ga Kill. Anyway the thing I don't like is why does she not kill them immediately. Why all the lying? Even if the girl can't be killed by regular means, which she didn't know until she tried to kill her. Why not murder her on spot? Why lead her a little further away. Just confirm she's otherworlder. Boom, stab. Though with the guy there are more circumstances, like, like his death could have larger destruction, but that somehow didn't really bother her with the girl, so she could kill her on the balcony already. And her not remembering the stab is asspull too. Oh yeah, she tripped while standing completely still looking for Menou. Makes perfect sense. /edit: it also took Menou some time to stab her after she smashed her to the ground with her own body weight. Seriously I can believe she forgot things after "dying", but before that? That's very odd. And then there's Menou standing there shocked. With knife still in her hand. |
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Blandmob said: But u know, instead of killing him after suddenly showing him that he got great power because he said he just some ordinary useless dude, she can just u know, guide him slowly and tell him to not use the power recklessly and use it for good deeds, and maybe she can recruit him to join the church and eradicate these noble that are summoning these lost ones My same thoughts exactly, it would've been a good story if it were made like that but this story has other goals in mind. |
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john_kun said: i drop this anime boring anyway From first episode? You know I dropped Madoka Magica from first episode. Later on I returned because alkl the hype and now it is one of my favorite animes. I since learned my lesson and never judge anime or TV show from first episode. |
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BunkerPenguin48 said: Spoilers for the first episode. The first Episode was good at first and the world seemed interesting but then the MC Killed an innocent person to maintain their world. It felt more like an excuse to murder than a justified reason to execute. Her group is above the top 10% of society which makes it feel like the nobles are the underdogs of the story if she is fighting against them. Yeah. It's kind of a medieval world where her church has a the power to take down a king. Looks like she's just the lapdog of the church. If I had to guess, she's not exactly the "evil" behind those executions. The church probably has political interests behind them. It could be as simple as "Their power may be dangerous to us" or "Some over the top righteous otherworlder could decide we're tyrants and decide to take us down", to something like the ideas from the other world bringing up an eventual end of the "middle ages" and thus of their control of the world. Or maybe killing them has a purpose. Maybe their death will cause something to happen. MC probably hasn't even doubted the intentions of her church. If I had to guess, she'll grow close to her target, then she'll end up fighting her kouhai and opposing the church resulting in her death and subsequent revival by the girl. But maybe I'm reading too much into it and it's just a shitty show pretending to paint the MC as the hero who saves the world from the evil otherworlders. BunkerPenguin48 said: I mean the church is probably hiding something from her and she doesn't question it because there is no reason she would. Why question the people who raised (and brainwashed) her?The episode made sense but the main characters don’t feel likable at all at the moment and their motives are poor and unjustified. I will still watch more of the show, I don’t think it’s bad or anything, Personally I don't have any issue with how the plot is presented, but it's such an old cliché so I feel like it does have to present something else to really catch my attention and make me be "This is actually really good" instead of "I'll surely enjoy this for the 100th time, but it's still the 100th time". Leaving aside the details this is basically FFIV where the kouhai is Kain, MC is Cecil and the other girl is Rosa. Or maybe I'm overthinking it and it doesn't even go that far. |
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