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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Welp, that's not your ordinary rose. And it didn't take long for the surreal fighting to take place again this episode after the short breather they've had. I have to say though, even compared to the other abnormalities, the monster from this episode was way abnormal. Also pretty tense episodea among the magical girls themselves. I hope Nanami can better control her personal feelings. |
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| Introducing a girl from the enemy team (one of the twins; thanks Stygian_Prisoner), who is in koto club. Main girl decide to talk to her. She asked about her sister, and wants her help. Buying the papers to put on the cup to thank the cool girl. Suddenly to that space. Big plant monster. Cool girl's friend suddenly visit. She said she needs to join the group to find her together. She also invited others to explain about their team. She also said the cool girl feels pity about others that she led them stay. Memory Museum... rumor again. About twintail girl from main series not unrelated to every girl? Another girl from the enemy team appears. |
tsubasaloverMar 14, 2020 11:27 PM
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| They changed the OP up a bit Was nice to see Amane and Iroha interacting and getting to know each other. Just shows how similar these girls are on both sides, just different ways of going about it Mifuyu popping up like that was very unnerving lol, like a cult recruiter. She knows exactly the buttons to press to upset yachiyo too. “Roommates, not friends” that’s not nice 😔 Looks like we’ll get more of her history next episode The third magius appears! I definitely would not have gone to that “lecture” but yachiyo probably wanted the girls to find out for themselves instead of preventing it Overall really good episode. Wish this got more love. For a lot of people, because it’s not Gen urobuchi and super dark, it’s not as good as the OG series. For me, I actually like it quite a deal more. It focuses on the character interactions and relationships and those slice of life moments that we got a few episodes ago are much more satisfying for me than constant dread. Second szn plz |
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| Even though its to be expected its strange to see the members of the magius have a normal life as schoolgirls as well. The president of the Koto club huh interesting role for Tsukuyo. Her reaction to Iroha's appearance though sure was amusing. It was cute seeing the girls all decide to pitch in to get the coasters though. Mifuyu making a personal appearance though was quite the interesting move on her part as was her approach. The impact that her visit had on both Iroha and Yachiyo though was intriguing. The memory museum sure had quite the unique layout that while odd was also reflective of its intended purpose. Looks likely that Iroha's decision to attend proved fortunate as it allowed her to meet one of her childhood friends Touka. Im quite curious to see what both Touka and Momoko has to say about both Nemu and the events that Yachiyo and her friends went through in the past that caused the current events. |
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| The drop in quality persists for the second episode in a row, with a lot of 'meguca' faces this time. Considering that, it might actually be for the better that the battle with the Witch was skipped in this episode. Otherwise i would expect it to be rather poorly animated & directed. It was quite dumb of Tsukuyo to try to sneak past Iroha while hiding her face that way instead of just going the other way, but i guess this was in line with the established goofiness of her and her sister's characters. This episode also had a couple of insignificant scenes which i found to be really weird nonetheless. First were a bunch of schoolgirls riding unicycles. Made me remember Fate/Zero, which also featured an apparently random scene like that. For real though, are unicycles popular among middle schoolers in Japan? Second was a rumour man eating a goat's ass. Just like that. Had to take a brake to let that sink in. Now, on a positive note, i was glad to finally see Momoko again. Looking forward to an emotional moment between her and Rena next episode. And Touka was looking real hot there, rocking that delicious zettai ryoiki. |
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| This episode makes me more optimistic about the end of this season. I like it when the anime enters this calmer pace and invests more in the dialogues, setting the stage for a season finale that promises a lot: the protagonists will probably know the truth about the soul gem, the fate of the magical girls and the plan of the Wings of Magius. At the same time, Momoko and Rena will have a conversation about what happened to Yachiyo's old group (a conversation that will certainly also involve the truth about the soul gem, as Momoko says it is something related to all magical girls) and must join the others in the museum. I'm looking forward to what comes next. The anime repeats that mistake from episode 4 of putting a useless witch in a random moment (why Gertrud?), but despite that, the episode is very good. |
| "If someone says it's wrong to hope, I'll tell them they're wrong every single time." |
| I think it's clear that the inclusion of Gertrude was meant to illustrate and reminder viewers not only of the fact that witches are coming in from all over, but that they might be starting to affect their behavior. Notice how this witch appeared before them instead of hiding, cutting up potential gifts? If the Magius's goal was to create despair and emotions, this is how they may be getting it |
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| The tension in this episode was off the charts! Gonna be fun next two episodes. |
| This one got very interesting. Mifuyu and Yachiyo are adults huh. Magical women. We get that from context more than character design, haha. A lot to think about when it comes to their backstories. I'm not sure how to feel about Mifuyu at this point. I definitely got that the show wanted us to be apprehensive about her but I kind of want to like her. Only two episodes left to wrap up a lot. Not sure if the rumors about a second season are true. |
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| Tsukuyo being in the koto club reminded me how much I miss Kono Oto Tomare! T__T hopefully magia record and kot get new season announcements |
houlouk said: Genoard said: The drop in quality persists for the second episode in a row, with a lot of 'meguca' faces this time. Considering that, it might actually be for the better that the battle with the Witch was skipped in this episode. Otherwise i would expect it to be rather poorly animated & directed. By meguca face, you mean faces that don't move like if it was just a drawing ? if it is that so, then there was that in the anime since the beginning (and a lot of animes have this problem). I wonder how gertrud has been able to survive in kamihama all this time considering that she is in low tier in the witch game and that there are a lot of powerful magical girls in kamihama (because witches are powerful too) I am also asking myself why the score is constantly dropping. Is it because people think each episode is worse (it would be strange imho) than the previous or because what it is forgivable at episode 3 is not at episode 11 or because people who like the show more have voted first ? I think Gertrude might also be a copy like the witches from last episode. Her grief seed didn't have her symbol on it. As for the score, I don't think it's a matter of the quality dropping but of more people dropping it in disdain because they don't like this show, sadly. Which is understandable, this isn't a perfectly written drama like Madoka Magica |
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houlouk said: I am also asking myself why the score is constantly dropping. Is it because people think each episode is worse (it would be strange imho) than the previous or because what it is forgivable at episode 3 is not at episode 11 or because people who like the show more have voted first ? The quality of the character design and animations decreased considerably compared to the first episodes. The action scenes are not good and this becomes more and more evident. Until the tenth episode, the story seemed to be going nowhere. Also, during the "phase of introducing the characters and forming the main group", almost nothing else happens. The fights have no consequences (all the girls come back unharmed from all the fights), the choices have no consequences (like Felicia's choice to join the Wings of Magius and then everything goes back to normal in the next episode), no event has a big impact, there is no tragedy or change in perspective. After the eleventh episode, it seems to be only now that this kind of thing is going to happen. |
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| Oh hell, its Gertrud! Nice cameo there. And seems like we're gonna get backstory next episode. |
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houlouk said: Genoard said: The drop in quality persists for the second episode in a row, with a lot of 'meguca' faces this time. Considering that, it might actually be for the better that the battle with the Witch was skipped in this episode. Otherwise i would expect it to be rather poorly animated & directed. By meguca face, you mean faces that don't move like if it was just a drawing ? if it is that so, then there was that in the anime since the beginning (and a lot of animes have this problem). Entirety of anime is just a drawing, unless it's 3D. What you describe here is nothing unusual. What i'm talking about are cases when a face of a character in a scene is lacking details and/or generally poorly drawn as if it were further away in the background. Fore example, take a look at these 2 shots of Tsukuyo from this episode:  They're (almost) the same size, but the one on the right undoubtedly looks worse due to poor detail in hair texture, eye pupils and lighting. Here are some other notable examples from this episode. Feel free to correct me here, but i don't remember so many, if any, such occasions in earlier episodes. |
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Ryoketsu said: The quality of the character design and animations decreased considerably compared to the first episodes. The action scenes are not good and this becomes more and more evident. Until the tenth episode, the story seemed to be going nowhere. Also, during the "phase of introducing the characters and forming the main group", almost nothing else happens. The fights have no consequences (all the girls come back unharmed from all the fights), the choices have no consequences (like Felicia's choice to join the Wings of Magius and then everything goes back to normal in the next episode), no event has a big impact, there is no tragedy or change in perspective. After the eleventh episode, it seems to be only now that this kind of thing is going to happen. This is a fine and justified opinion to have, but it isn't fact, nor is it echoed in the scions of good writing, or however that's determined in the amorphous blob that is art. I mean, your idea of "everything goes back to normal" as indicator of a lack of stakes only has basis if we're spectating a drama like Madoka. But in reality, the characters change and grow as a result of these encounters. That is undeniable. The stakes feel real to the characters in their encounters and fights - just because a gutting twist doesn't happen, it doesn't mean there's no point to this story. Otherwise, SoL stories would never be popular, nor adventure films where you know the hero will win. As for "nothing else happening," we had characterization and growth for virtually everybody, mysteries and worldbuilding on this strange new status quo in Kamihama. People can not care for that stuff, but to deny their existence is a fallacy |
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| Finally. Finally someone let's us hear "the bad guys"' opinions. Every time it was always "they are bad" and noone ever wanted to hear, why they are doing, what they are doing. So thank god they finally get a chance to tell "the good guys", what they are doing and why they are doing this. Of course it's going the go the expected direction, there will be a disagreement over what is the right thing to do, there will be a fight and there will be some conlusion to this. But I honestly hope there will be a good explanation to this all, the mystery of salvating the magical girls has been floating around the series for many episodes now and there have never been any steps to get closer to finding out, how to achieve salvation, why the Wings of the Magius are pursuing this goal and why they are doing it in the way they are. So hopefully there will be a good explanation - and maybe not another new character. |
| Interesting episode! Mafuyu dropping by Yachiyo's house, inviting the magical girls to learn the truth. They meet Touka at the Memory Museum! 2 episodes to go, can't wait to see how they will wrap this up! |
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| Interesting development again. Touka appeared instead of Nemu and she doesn't remember Iroha chan. Looks like we'll get some flashbacks next episode, excited to see what happened to Yachio and her friends a year ago. |
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| This reminds me that most people havent watched the original Madoka while airing. This is the problem with newer anime fans. They are only exposed to SHAFT from BDs. Which are completely fixing up mistakes during the TV broadcast. If the quality is bother you drop it for now and wait for the BDs. If the story is bothering you then drop it entirely because this is only a showcase of magical girls and their cute designs with a linear plot connecting the series. I do find it funny, or ironic, that during the original broadcasting, the last 3 episodes were in terrible production shape because of the earthquake. Few years later and now the virus is affecting the series once again. |
tsubasalover said: Introducing a girl from the enemy team, who is in koto club. Main girl decide to talk to her. She asked about her sister. So the twins are her younger sisters. Lol, no. She is one of the twin sisters, not a new girl. Iroha found out what school she goes to, so she went there to intercept her. You're probably confused because of her different surname. In public, she goes by her mother's maiden name (Akatsuki), but when she's with her twin sister, Tsukasa, she takes on her father's surname (Amane). The mobile game explains this. |
| There really should be another season, because there is no way they can properly end this in 2 episodes. |
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| madoka was epic this show is .. not so much |
moodie said: This reminds me that most people havent watched the original Madoka while airing. This is the problem with newer anime fans. They are only exposed to SHAFT from BDs. Which are completely fixing up mistakes during the TV broadcast. If the quality is bother you drop it for now and wait for the BDs. If the story is bothering you then drop it entirely because this is only a showcase of magical girls and their cute designs with a linear plot connecting the series. I do find it funny, or ironic, that during the original broadcasting, the last 3 episodes were in terrible production shape because of the earthquake. Few years later and now the virus is affecting the series once again. Must be the work of a witch who hides somewhere. We didn't have such issues in Rebellion, cuz no witches there. Definitely work of some witch. Jokes apart, it's the story people are disliking. It amazes people no one gets hurt, and their actions have no consequences. If you compare it with Madoka Magica, it sure doesn't have a complex writing. The drop in quality becomes an excuse since there's nothing else to focus on. I think that's why sequel to Rebellion will be a movie, and is still in production, because it's hard to please fans. Magia Record is there to take a bullet, and it can being side story. The first 3 episodes were gorgeous in visuals as they were prepared beforehand for pre airing. |
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| damn you Mifuyu, ruin the moment when Iroha's group have a fun surprise for Yachiyo. :( oh, Tsukuyo is not brave when she is alone and have no witch to summon. Funny when she thought Iroha is gonna torture her. :p wow, so Yacchan is a model? well, she's a tall and beautiful girl so the job fits her. and lastly. Touka is sexy. >< |
Liddo-kunMar 16, 2020 12:49 AM
| Memory museum is chilling placr. |
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Genoard said: houlouk said: By meguca face, you mean faces that don't move like if it was just a drawing ? if it is that so, then there was that in the anime since the beginning (and a lot of animes have this problem). Entirety of anime is just a drawing, unless it's 3D. What you describe here is nothing unusual. What i'm talking about are cases when a face of a character in a scene is lacking details and/or generally poorly drawn as if it were further away in the background. Fore example, take a look at these 2 shots of Tsukuyo from this episode: They're (almost) the same size, but the one on the right undoubtedly looks worse due to poor detail in hair texture, eye pupils and lighting. Here are some other notable examples from this episode. Feel free to correct me here, but i don't remember so many, if any, such occasions in earlier episodes. The bad one was a quick shot and only used once, but the better one is a important part of the episodes, studios often cut their budget by focus on important scenes such as fight scene |
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| Tsukuyo got a laugh out of me when she tried to hide her face with her case to walk past Iroha without being noticed. She's a fool to think that'll work. XD Thanks to Iroha's persistence, she was able to get through to her and, eventually, Iroha came face to face with Mifuyu at the villa. Mifuyu still has that air of mystery around her and I still find have my doubts about her. Plus, Yachiyo wasn't too fond of Mifuyu being in the villa when she came back and she almost lost her composure when she ordered Mifuyu to leave. The visit of the abandoned museum is certainly interesting with where it's leading and the appearance of Touka at the end will certainly leave Iroha asking her a truck-load of questions about the whereabouts of Ui. Good episode overall, although with only two episodes left, will we get a second season for Magia Record? With the way the story is going, I think another season should be needed. |
| Better than last episode but not by a huge margin. I'm wondering how they're gonna wrap the whole story up in the next two episodes though. I'm kinda sad they cut the fight with Gertrud, cause the reputation of the Kamihama witches being strong already really seems to fall apart as the anime progresses. I've seen no real fights where the magical girls seem to be outmatched, except maybe Iroha in episode one (tho I'm not sure if that even was a Kamihama witch tbh). Just general dissonance between what the viewer is told and what the viewer eventually sees imo. Though I guess we've already seen how that witch operates in the original, but still. Also, I think there was a production error or something in this episode (might have to do with what streaming service I used tho idk). About 9 minutes in, after Sana catches the coasters, there's a random shot of the floor without any of the characters that lasts about 3-4 seconds? It seemed extremely out of place, did anyone else notice this? |
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Phosphollite said: I think it's meant to be "this witch is so weak the fight isn't even worth showing" going by some of the dialogue right after, but ultimately the fight adds nothing to the episode and probably should've been cut entirely. If they needed to pad out the episode, more time selecting the coasters would've been a better idea.Better than last episode but not by a huge margin. I'm wondering how they're gonna wrap the whole story up in the next two episodes though. I'm kinda sad they cut the fight with Gertrud, cause the reputation of the Kamihama witches being strong already really seems to fall apart as the anime progresses. I've seen no real fights where the magical girls seem to be outmatched, except maybe Iroha in episode one (tho I'm not sure if that even was a Kamihama witch tbh). Just general dissonance between what the viewer is told and what the viewer eventually sees imo. Though I guess we've already seen how that witch operates in the original, but still. Also, I think there was a production error or something in this episode (might have to do with what streaming service I used tho idk). About 9 minutes in, after Sana catches the coasters, there's a random shot of the floor without any of the characters that lasts about 3-4 seconds? It seemed extremely out of place, did anyone else notice this? I'm not sure it's an error, but there is definitely a blank shot of the ground inside of the labyrinth at 9:01.Meta_Yoshi said: Hopefully it'll get another season - otherwise it'll end up as a "fuck you, play the game" ending.Good episode overall, although with only two episodes left, will we get a second season for Magia Record? With the way the story is going, I think another season should be needed. |
Polycell said: Phosphollite said: I think it's meant to be "this witch is so weak the fight isn't even worth showing" going by some of the dialogue right after, but ultimately the fight adds nothing to the episode and probably should've been cut entirely. If they needed to pad out the episode, more time selecting the coasters would've been a better idea.Better than last episode but not by a huge margin. I'm wondering how they're gonna wrap the whole story up in the next two episodes though. I'm kinda sad they cut the fight with Gertrud, cause the reputation of the Kamihama witches being strong already really seems to fall apart as the anime progresses. I've seen no real fights where the magical girls seem to be outmatched, except maybe Iroha in episode one (tho I'm not sure if that even was a Kamihama witch tbh). Just general dissonance between what the viewer is told and what the viewer eventually sees imo. Though I guess we've already seen how that witch operates in the original, but still. Yeah, witches like Candy and Rebecca (and now also Gertrud) seem to pop up just to pad out the episodes. They add little to nothing to MR, both story wise and animation wise (though even the longer fights tend to have very little "sakuga", I guess). Polycell said: Phosphollite said: I'm not sure it's an error, but there is definitely a blank shot of the ground inside of the labyrinth at 9:01.Also, I think there was a production error or something in this episode (might have to do with what streaming service I used tho idk). About 9 minutes in, after Sana catches the coasters, there's a random shot of the floor without any of the characters that lasts about 3-4 seconds? It seemed extremely out of place, did anyone else notice this? Considering there were sound effects of some jumping/landing and presumably Iroha and Tsurono smiling (or they're saying "うん" as if they're agreeing?), I assume that it's a production error and that the shot that is displayed is the background, but without the characters that were supposed to be in the shot. I can't really think of any other explanation tbh. |
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Marinate1016 said: Looks like we’ll get more of her history next episode Overall really good episode. Wish this got more love. For a lot of people, because it’s not Gen urobuchi and super dark, it’s not as good as the OG series. For me, I actually like it quite a deal more. It focuses on the character interactions and relationships and those slice of life moments that we got a few episodes ago are much more satisfying for me than constant dread. Second szn plz interested to know more about Yachiyo history as well. And why that thing in her mirror talks. I'm pretty much enjoying this just as the original. Although have to be really careful looking at posts, because spoilers are often said by spoiler happy people - have so far put a number of posters on previous threadse on block + ignore. |
Emelie_ said: As someone pointed out before, the earlier episodes have her retaining a hard expression when she reaches out to Iroha with the umbrella, while later episodes change it to smiling. Going by Yachiyo's 180 immediately after Mifuyu pointed out she was warming up, Yachiyo was only downplaying their relationships to herself, apparently having chosen not to get close to anyone at some point.I wish we got to see things more from Yachiyo's perspective. I like that we got to see her more vulnerable side in this episode. Before this episode it felt like we were missing out on that. I also think that Yachiyo was just trying to protect the other girls by downplaying their relationship so that the Wings of Magius won't use this against her. Although it was probably in vain since Mifuyu saw the cups and read her like an open book. Liddo-kun said: That thing in the mirror is wearing the same mask as when Iroha and Kaede activated their doppels - and given that the doppel is tied to a magical girl's inner self, what it says is almost certainly tied to why Yachiyo has been pushing others away.And why that thing in her mirror talks. |
| I realized something disturbing about the previous episode. For a familiar to grow into a witch, it needs to eat approximately four or five humans. The Wings of Magius were "creating" witches in the Endless Solitude by keeping familiars in captivity for them to grow. Mami said they were searching for a way that wouldn't cause sacrifices. The Wings of Magius were sacrificing people to feed the familiars. |
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Ryoketsu said: I realized something disturbing about the previous episode. For a familiar to grow into a witch, it needs to eat approximately four or five humans. The Wings of Magius were "creating" witches in the Endless Solitude by keeping familiars in captivity for them to grow. Mami said they were searching for a way that wouldn't cause sacrifices. The Wings of Magius were sacrificing people to feed the familiars. Now that you've mentioned it, I have a theory to discuss. Kyoko said in originally anime that a familiar has to eat a few human beings to turn into a witch. But why isn't this a certain number? Because maybe a familiar doesn't turn into a witch simply by devouring a mere human, but a Magical Girl. We all know when a Magical Girl's soul gem becomes completely dark with impurities, she turns into a witch. Her soul gem converts into a grief seed, and hence witches have grief seeds. But a witch's familiars don't have it's own grief seed, so they probably acquire it by killing a Magical Girl. So what form does a familiar acquires after it devours a Magical Girl? Maybe the form of the witch whose familiar it is (or the Magical Girl it devours). That would explain multiple copies of a single witch, but each having their own grief seed. This also explains why the native uwasa has no grief seeds, because it would require a Magical Girl to die. And we know magical girls cannot die by witching out in Kamihama, so Magius are probably sacrificing humans to make rumours, they aren't sacrificing Magical Girls in that process. |
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salarx said: Now that you've mentioned it, I have a theory to discuss. Kyoko said in originally anime that a familiar has to eat a few human beings to turn into a witch. But why isn't this a certain number? Because maybe a familiar doesn't turn into a witch simply by devouring a mere human, but a Magical Girl. We all know when a Magical Girl's soul gem becomes completely dark with impurities, she turns into a witch. Her soul gem converts into a grief seed, and hence witches have grief seeds. But a witch's familiars don't have it's own grief seed, so they probably acquire it by killing a Magical Girl. So what form does a familiar acquires after it devours a Magical Girl? Maybe the form of the witch whose familiar it is (or the Magical Girl it devours). That would explain multiple copies of a single witch, but each having their own grief seed. This also explains why the native uwasa has no grief seeds, because it would require a Magical Girl to die. And we know magical girls cannot die by witching out in Kamihama, so Magius are probably sacrificing humans to make rumours, they aren't sacrificing Magical Girls in that process. The familiars could also create a "generic" grief seed when they ate enough people to grow into a witch, such as the grief seed from this episode which is different from Gertrud's grief seed from the original series. This one was probably a Gertrud's familiar which grew up. |
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| Given that Alina was able to pull out so many copies of the Pendulum Witch, I'd say it's not particularly likely that familiars need to eat a magical girl to become witches in their own right. |
houlouk said: I don't understand, how is it possible to put 2/10 on a show and continue watching it after episode 11 ? i sat through pupa, i can sit through this garbage im too invested |
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