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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Impressive. Goku vs Jiren's rematch got intense as it could get. Unfortunately, it feels like he's still ahead of him. Gotta love 17 making his move though. He's no match against Jiren but he tries. Interesting to see Jiren's past this episode! I love 17's courage this episode. Even against someone like Jiren, he's not backing off. |
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| oh wow Android 17 blow himself up to give recovery time for Goku and Vegeta the backstory of Jiren is not that as complex as i expected, all his love ones died and that made him realize that strength is all that matters |
| I love Jiren backstory even though it is simple. However, Android 17 literally gave out his life to protect his comrades. Both got my heart. But Android 17 having to sacrifice himself for his comrades was a big blast. When I see characters or even people do that for their friends or allies. That is something to respect. As not a lot really does that. |
| wow looking back at this whole arc till now 17 honestly did the most out of everyone with that said looks like next ep vegeta is gonna get knocked out leaving this to goku surprising no one lol but looking forward to see how they end thing thoough im guessing he'll bring out some mastered ultra instinct plus something extra but we'll see |
| "one step at a time" |
| Tbh I felt nothing with Jiren's back story. They were too late showing us this so I totally don't care for it at this point. Maybe if they'd shown us this earlier. 17 MVP of this whole arc. Let's hope they revive him with the db |
| Wow, I just love 17,what a guy. Even without this episode it wouldn't be too far stretched to call him U7s most reliable member,but his sacrifice left me speechless,truly the MVP.Respect. Great episode overall and not just for 17,the fighting was pretty entertaining and Frieza surprised with his attack,was expecting him to stay in the backround till the end. Only part I wasn't specially fond of was the reveal of Jirens past,most boring story ever,hope the manga is going to do a bit more with that. Also dunno why Belmod thinks it's the right time to tell some stories when there are only 3-4min left and U7 has still 4 fighters in the race. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Android 17, you're the man bro. The most reliable person of U7. He did his best for the team till the very end. Lmao, my boy Frieza is super pissed xD. |
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| Jiren past was sad AF! At this point I seriously don’t see universe 7 winning... |
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| I'm surprised that they're just giving Jiren a flashback now. I can't be the only one that dislikes how 17 went out. Also judging from the next episode title, I'm assuming Vegeta is going to be eliminated. |
| Mankind knew that they cannot change society. So instead of reflecting on themselves, they blamed the beasts. |
| People say Goku's stamina problem is BS but Vegeta's is even worse. He got beaten by Jiren endless times, randomly pulled out a new form then able to freely transform without apparent drawbacks, used his "finishing move" Final Flash twice, used "self destruct" that supposedly drained all his stamina. Then after all that, he was able to transform back to the new blue form immediately, then get beaten yet again by Jiren all within like 3 minutes. And yet, he is in better shape than Goku at the end of the episode. I accept the fact that Goku and Vegeta was able to get hundred times stronger in the tournament since they are saiyan, but for 17 to even be able to do anything against Jiren is absurd. "That's enough out of you, Belmod" without any honorifics lol Jiren pays no respect to even his God of Destruction. 17 went out like a champ. He got much more shine than characters like Freiza and Gohan for a character with literally no buildup. I can't believe I am actually feeling bad for Freiza lol Overall, the episode was okay. Jiren is absolutely OP. |
UImoetardFeb 10, 2018 7:29 PM
| This episode was great. Frieza came out of nowhere but at least he tried. No. 17 is awesome. My man. Vegito possibility is shrinking..... |
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| RiP Android 17. MVP in the tournament imo. He’ll probably be wished back to life at the end of the tournament. Jiren backstory is cliche asf. |
| Hmm Jiren's past is sad yeah, specially considering his universe doesn't seem to have knowledge of Dragon Balls so death cannot be avoided. But still, showing that flashback this late... Sort of a bad move from the script imo xD And man, Android 17... He was the true MVP of the tournament, standing as one of the best characters of the whole show. |
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Aurkar said: I'm tired of this. The ultra Katchin supposed to be more resistant than any material in universes is far less resistant than... clothes??!!?! They never bleed, they never faint (or 3 minutes max), they never get out of stamina. None of them could harm Jiren (even by surprise) and N°17 can. Golden frieza can not resist Jiren but N°17 can. Come on this is ridiculous... The story of Jiren is even more superficial than Justin Bieber's one. At least one thing sounds like Dragon ball (finally because with Vegeta I was so frustrated before..) ONE OF THEM HOPEFULLY DIED!!! N° 17 is definitively the most interesting character of this bull****arc. Goku didn't use kaioken for minutes as they were fighting together. Vegeta recovered from a suicide in 1 second!!! This is nonsense. Animation was pretty good but that cannot reduce what's going wrong! Vegeta is way stronger now so maybe he knew he wasnt going to die with all that God Power he has. The blood is mostly because they censor it I remember. The Ultra Katchin can easily be broken by Goku, Vegeta, Jiren and Freeza, I guess the Clothes thing is a good point but sometimes these clothes are specially made from beings like Whis. And Vegeta didnt recover, hes just so strong now that he can keep going. But just relax and enjoy, whats the point of getting triggered over small things like blood. |
Aurkar said: I'm tired of this. The ultra Katchin supposed to be more resistant than any material in universes is far less resistant than... clothes??!!?! They never bleed, they never faint (or 3 minutes max), they never get out of stamina. None of them could harm Jiren (even by surprise) and N°17 can. Golden frieza can not resist Jiren but N°17 can. Come on this is ridiculous... The story of Jiren is even more superficial than Justin Bieber's one. At least one thing sounds like Dragon ball (finally because with Vegeta I was so frustrated before..) ONE OF THEM HOPEFULLY DIED!!! N° 17 is definitively the most interesting character of this bull****arc. Goku didn't use kaioken for minutes as they were fighting together. Vegeta recovered from a suicide in 1 second!!! This is nonsense. Animation was pretty good but that cannot reduce what's going wrong! Nº 17 can't be traced by Ki sensing, so I think that's why he was able to hurt Jiren while catching him off-guard. Also, he survived for so long because he has infinite stamina. Nevertheless, the producers of the anime have given nº 17 such a ridiculous buffing ... [EDIT] Overall, I agree with you that this arc lacks a lot of substance (and I'm not talking about the absence of blood). |
BDLFeb 10, 2018 8:43 PM
| Wow they actually killed off Android 17. He did amazing, can't ask for more as he did a lot in the tournament than expected. Kudos to him for not backing down even if he knew the disadvantage they are in. I thought they removed the bombs from the Androids way back in the Cell saga. The flashback was interesting, it reminded me of the Goku Black arc. If only they had done that a bit earlier, maybe removed those meaningless episodes like the Potafu arc, it would have been at least a few more episodes of build up. Jiren should really make sure Frieza is knocked out, that's twice already that Frieza has been sparred from elimination. It'll probably come back to haunt Jiren. Those coordinated attacks were pretty good, that finger flick ki blast that gave an opening for Goku and Vegeta was quite impressive. Overall I don't see how U7 can win, even if Goku goes UI. But well nonetheless the episode was amazing. Probably my favorite 17 episode, it showed his perseverance and determination. |
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| That was one hell of an episode. Amazing fight and man 17 is really something. Jiren past is surprising. Looks like it will be up to goku and vegeta to beat Jiren!! |
| Android 17 literally fight on the same level as Super Saiyan God. He have become way more powerful than some people may have not realized. He even went with out a bang. Considering your universe get erased if you lose, its almost surprising that no one thought of suicide attack until now. Jiren's backstory may have been the most cliche backstory I ever hear. Didn't make me care about him at all. |
| I don't think 17 even dead he can saved by Frieza because clearly Frieza don't die or ring out from Jiren's attack. |
| Into the Internet! |
| that backstory of jiren was unexpected for me. |
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| Definitely, No. 17 is the MVP in this tournament. |
| These last few episodes have really been something, this high intensity and fast paced action is what DB is all about. We'll miss ya 17, one of the MVPs this arc for sure. |
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| Wow 17 died. Way to strike me In the feels. I'm glad to see that Jiren has some character. Didn't really expect that. Nice episode. -Mahesvara said: Yeah it has been extremely intense. Idk what Goku and Vegeta are gonna do. And Frieza is just getting thrown around XDThese last few episodes have really been something, this high intensity and fast paced action is what DB is all about. We'll miss ya 17, one of the MVPs this arc for sure. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
AlfyanFeb 11, 2018 4:53 AM
on OtakuIriamu said: I could see fusion being a possibility, because as they are right now and even if Goku does go Ultra Instinct again, they don't stand a chance otherwise.-Mahesvara said: Yeah it has been extremely intense. Idk what Goku and Vegeta are gonna do. And Frieza is just getting thrown around XDThese last few episodes have really been something, this high intensity and fast paced action is what DB is all about. We'll miss ya 17, one of the MVPs this arc for sure. |
My Queens |
| And as this arc and the show as a whole draws closer to its end, it all crumbles apart. Vegeta up and back in his new form, mere seconds after using up all his energy on the final explosion from last episode. And then at it again in the next episode, going by the preview footage. Android 17 fighting on equal footing against Jiren alongside Goku and Vegeta, and putting up a better fight against him than Frieza. Him being the first one in the entire tournament to actually hurt Jiren. (also, inb4 Android 17 hid himself between the rubble instead of self-destructing) Jiren's power-up making no difference whatsoever. He doesn't appear to be any stronger than he was before he powered up to his maximum power. I'll give a point for a decently action-packed episode, and finally revealing some of Jiren's backstory, but it's hard to enjoy these last episodes before Super is ending, with how badly written these episodes are. |
Milennin said: And as this arc and the show as a whole draws closer to its end, it all crumbles apart. This was such a dull, uninspired episode. At this point, DBS is just dragging itself to the finish line. And what's more, I'm pissed how they just decided to end 17's life just like that. Best warrior in the tournament without a doubt. But it all felt too heroic and meh. Fuck you, Super. |
| Meh, Jiren's past was quite generic but well I cannot expect much from Dragon Ball for that part. Well RIP No. 17. I hated how much overexposure and buffs he got compared to other characters but he certainly didn't deserve to die. Ok episode I guess. |
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| Jien still lame as f*ck #17 the MVP of this arc MAJOR RESPECT |
| That felt different than normal DBS episodes. Frieza's kick came out of nowhere lmao like a crazy girl fight. What a lame past for Jiren not that I expect better from DBS. 17 your sacrifice shall be remembered. |
| They had the chance to make Gohan cool again, but they chose to make C17 the MVP of this arc. So when will Ultra Instinct be back? Maybe Vegeta will get it too? If Goku isnt using it anyway.. PS: So MAL set the ep counter to 131. I cant say Super was always enjoyable but overall it will be missed. Sloppy writing and zero connections between the arcs, but it still was Dragonball. (if not Z, it atleast had some original DB vibes to it) PPS: Totally forgot Frieza was still there. And I forgot it while writing the comment again. GG Frieza, GG. Time to get gud. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Jiren's teacher sacrificed himself like Piccolo did when he protected Gohan. As for #17's sacrifice, regular Shenron couldn't bring back artificial lifeforms, so I hope that Super Shenron will be able to bring him back. |
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| So basically, Jiren is DB's version of Toguro? And it sucks 17 is gone (till further notice), the guy became my favorite character of this arc. |
| Jiren's past sounds...underwhelming. Oh well, RiP 17, easily the best contestant in the ToP and probably the most useful. Next episode seems to hint at Vegeta going out, so I guess there goes the Vegito/Gogeta fusion potential aswell meaning it will boil down to UI Goku vs Jiren...and Frieza probably sneaking in somehow. |
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| So they killed the best character off... Lets just hope he gets revived somehow... this is too much |
| Android 17 stood up against Jiren, while Frieza got fucked over, lmao |
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