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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Wow nice, they introduced quite a bit of characters of different ranks and positions. Definitely not the usual business trip. We even got a brief duel involving Yatori. Glad to see Ikta expressing his own ideals and teasing others including using a spider; lol I find that pretty funny. Looks like we get to see a glimpse of at the end. Interesting episode, can't wait to see more. |
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| So they didn't include the end of Vol.1 in this episode..? Edit: just watched the episode..I wish they adapted the goddamn epilogue..now we have to wait until the end of the show..oh well. @Zefyris the production values wasn't bad..but the directing doesn't fit this narration style at all.. I think Atsuko Ishizuka is the only director currently at Madhouse that can direct a LN adaptation decently. she did a great jobe adapting Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo, and NGNL needed just a good stopping point to be perfect. but the director of Alderamin in the other hand doesn't seems to know what he is doing tbh. and I still didn't het used to this artstyle..seriously the only good thing that came out of this adaptation is the music and VAs.. If there is going to be a S2 I hope they give it to another studio and change the artstyle, but that more likely won't ever happen, which is a shame because I really like this series. |
BlueAvatarAug 12, 2016 11:55 AM
| ^But characters are referring to it despite that. They pushed it back at the end of the anime, it seems. Not a huge fan of the way the events of this episode are put in anime format, honestly. Not about what they cut or not, but simply, the whole episode is wholly lacking of any sort of smart handling of all those new informations. Basically, the camera, the character talking just standing here not moving or just walking together, and the like. This is bellow average for adapting something. It's extremely lacking visually ImO. |
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| Wow very disappointing episode for me. I was really looking forward to the epilogue as it's what got me hooked into the series. Thank god for Kanna as her scene was handled well. Zefyris said: ^But characters are referring to it despite that. They pushed it back at the end of the anime, it seems. Not a huge fan of the way the events of this episode are put in anime format, honestly. Not about what they cut or not, but simply, the whole episode is wholly lacking of any sort of smart handling of all those new informations. Basically, the camera, the character talking just standing here not moving or just walking together, and the like. This is bellow average for adapting something. It's extremely lacking visually ImO. Basically this. |
| Big Order (TV):great anime or greatest anime? |
| Damn, Kanna is top tier, i hope we get to see her again. What did Ikkun see there? |
| Whoever decided to cut or at best move That Event to the end of the series, needs to never be allowed to work on an anime again. |
| Damn you cliffhanger! What did Ikta see in that cell? Have a bad feeling Kanna might die when these natives attack... |
| It's basically the same problem as the first episode, so I'm wondering if the guy in charge was the same. The way they put everything together after cutting part (cutting part is normal in anime, so that's okay) is awfully awkward, and the whole staging is extremely uninspired. Basically madhouse here is completely letting the original work "do the work" in being interesting without doing their job as ADAPTING it. That's what happens when you have rookies put in charge. The only good news is that as long as they don't go astray from the original source, the remaining part that will be adapted in the anime from episode 7 to 13 is more than enough good to carry the whole anime without any help from a talented staff. |
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| Ikta's child "experience" WILL really help with that Sinack villager, soon I believe. Another lesson learned the princess get from Yatori's duel plus Ikta's lecture. Damn that Ikta, always had something on his sleeve. Even to run from that "penalty" for ditching from exercise. LOL |
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D-Joe said: antonn said: Whoever decided to cut or at best move That Event to the end of the series, needs to never be allowed to work on an anime again. This is why i hate LN readers sometimes, even though i'm also already read this LN. Sorry for having standards for adaptations. I can live with rushed adaptations or low budget animation, it's practically the norm. However cutting a very important part of the story is not forgivable. Also I haven't the LN yet, only the manga adaptation, get your generalizations right. |
antonn said: Whoever decided to cut or at best move That Event to the end of the series, needs to never be allowed to work on an anime again. for real. I see no purpose in moving it as it, imo, disjoints what Ikta does during these 2 vol. and in general the whole dynamic. Now it'll be shown at end of ep.13 and it'll be poorly executed plot twist scene. |
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D-Joe said: Zefyris said: It's basically the same problem as the first episode, so I'm wondering if the guy in charge was the same. The way they put everything together after cutting part (cutting part is normal in anime, so that's okay) is awfully awkward, and the whole staging is extremely uninspired. Basically madhouse here is completely letting the original work "do the work" in being interesting without doing their job as ADAPTING it. That's what happens when you have rookies put in charge. The only good news is that as long as they don't go astray from the original source, the remaining part that will be adapted in the anime is more than enough good to carry the whole anime without any help from a talented staff. Except it's by episode 3's staff. And it's really funny when you LN readers keep yelling this episode is so shit while non-LN readers think it's fine, or even it's good. Rookies huh, Overlord director is a rookie now lol. Sorry but this has nothing to do with being LN reader or not. And tons of peoples are going to not like this one/find it boring. Because I'm not talking here about what they cut/modified and so on, but purely and simply the extremely bland staging. Just to say, I AM fine with exposition like this episode, but lots of peoples are not. And being fine with it do not stop me from recognising that it wasn't well staged at all. Do you have any idea of how many rookie are among the alderamin staff? because there's a lot. |
ZefyrisAug 12, 2016 11:44 AM
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| As an anime-only I felt it was a good episode. Interesting bit about the Igsem family being at the top and how they're dual wield weapon style is a symbol of authority. I'm actually pretty surprised the princess doesn't know much about her own empire. Yattori's duel was pretty cool, She won as expected. Some more information regarding the terrain in the area during the training exercise. Loved the way Ikta owned that superior officer, I like Kanna, She seems to be another person with the scientific approach in the show. That cliffhanger end :o, What did Ikta see? Not sure what this event is that everyone is saying they skipped, If it really is that important of an event it's pretty weird of MadHouse to skip it. Guess I'll have to check out the LN's. |
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D-Joe said: http://myanimelist.net/people/40519/Itou_Naoyukiantonn said: Sorry for having standards for adaptations. I can live with rushed adaptations or low budget animation, it's practically the norm. However cutting a very important part of the story is not forgivable. Also I haven't the LN yet, only the manga adaptation, get your generalizations right. So who told you they're cutting that part? In fact i find it funny you guys think that's great part, sure it's important and should be adapted, but not a part that making people love the show, it's important but stupid part til volume 7 changed everything. this is the director of Overlord, and he has nothing to do with Alderamin anime as you can see.. and yes, the director of Alderamin is one of the most unexperienced directors in the industry..just check his profile: http://myanimelist.net/people/31581/Ichimura_Tetsuo |
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BlueAvatar said: So they didn't include the end of Vol.1 in this episode..? Edit: just watched the episode..I wish they adapted the goddamn epilogue..now we have to wait until the end of the show..oh well. @Zefyris the production values wasn't bad..but the directing doesn't fit this narration style at all.. I think Atsuko Ishizuka is the only director currently at Madhouse that can direct a LN adaptation decently. she did a great jobe adapting Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo, and NGNL needed just a good stopping point to be perfect. but the director of Alderamin in the other hand doesn't seems to know what he is doing tbh. and I still didn't het used to this artstyle..seriously the only good thing that came out of this adaptation is the music and VAs.. If there is going to be a S2 I hope they give it to another studio and change the artstyle, but that more likely won't ever happen, which is a shame because I really like this series. Well this episode basically felt like they took the dialogue of the novel (normal), they cut parts of it (normal), then they just add character standing talking, sitting talking, walking around talking to go with the dialogue(not normal AT ALL) without even bothering to adapt the dialogue to the cut that were made (not normal at all either). D-Joe seems to have a problem seeing that, but the episode script, the episode directing, and the staging are all very low level. The whole episode survive just because the initial dialogue was good. The madhouse staff basically did not do anything relevant to make it more appealing to anime viewers from start to finish. >_< Luckily, this only seem to happen in information heavy episodes so it should be okay from now on. |
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D-Joe said: BlueAvatar said: http://myanimelist.net/people/40519/Itou_Naoyuki this is the director of Overlord, and he has nothing to do with Alderamin anime as you can see.. and yes, the director of Alderamin is one of the most unexperienced directors in the industry..just check his profile: http://myanimelist.net/people/31581/Ichimura_Tetsuo ...he is storyboard of this episode(and episode 3), MAL is not official of this show. http://alderamin.net/story/03.html http://alderamin.net/story/06.html Try google "伊藤尚往". dude he's in charge of the storyboard. Not the script, not the episode director. And even the storyboard itself was subpar anyway. |
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| Sometimes I wonder if Solork and Igsem won't end up fighting in opposite sides. Her loyalty to the Empire is absolute and unless the Empire is reformed from within (the little princess maybe?) Ikta will at some point get fed up with all those ignorant martinets. |
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D-Joe said: Zefyris said: dude he's in charge of the storyboard. Not the script, not the episode director. And even the storyboard itself was subpar anyway. 1.it's not subpar. 2.storyboard is important than episode director because he design how every shots works. 3.none of key staff in this episodes are "rookie". As expected before this show start airing, LN-reader ruining the discussion of an LN adaption show, again, no wonder you wasted so much time in that "underrated" thread. dude, I'm goign to say it a last time. Forget that I've read the ln for one minute and read back everything I said. You did that? good. There was absolutely nothing in relation with me having read the LN or not from start to finish. What I'm saying here is completely axed to the anime and anime only. i'm not talking about what is missing, about their choice of what to cut or anything. If you cannot get in your mind the fact that I'm only talking about the anime here and not the LN, then don't even bother answering, that's not worth it. The director is a complete rookie. Several important seiyuu are complete rookie, and several other staff members that were named are pretty much rookie. And yes, the storyboard of this episode wasn't good. |
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| I just hope they'll include that scene as a flashback rather than actually later in the story or not at all. It's a pretty important scene. Other than that, it was fairly enjoyable. Could have been better, but I liked it. I was just surprised that they didn't include the thing. And no, I'm a manga reader, not LN. As usual, I'm looking forward to next week's episode still. |
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Lelouch0202 said: Not sure what this event is that everyone is saying they skipped, If it really is that important of an event it's pretty weird of MadHouse to skip it. Guess I'll have to check out the LN's. If you want some pictures to go along with it, you can also read ch.14 of the manga. It covers the first part of this episode (before the OP) and what was skipped. |
antonnAug 12, 2016 1:52 PM
| cliffhangers are great |
| Love this series it continues to be one of my favorite anime's of this year. Looking forward to next week. |
| can't believe how hard I screamed seeing that spider.. |
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| WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY DOING? Seriously, they skipped the most important part of Vol1, and possibly one of the most important things in the series, made the Evens of the episode seem boring instead of interesting as they were in the manga and character Designs somehow got worse <.< Seriously Wtf. Here is what they missed/cut/maybe moved to later |
ShrimperorAug 12, 2016 5:04 PM
| Going North to intimidate the barbarians. Books are worth alot and Ikta saves a girl from the greedy higher up man :) Yatori showing off her Igsem skills against a the forth's best man :O Black loli about to attack to receive what was stolen from them and Ikta finds someone locked up? Hime x Old Man Doujin When? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)  |
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| I thought the new girl gonna mentioned that Ikta had a naughty time with her mom at some point. |
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| Not much happened, but as long as we get more of Ikta's just messing about I'll be more than satisfied. Yatori's spar was also quite decent, so all in all a good set up episode. |
| 5 main aspects I base my ratings on: 1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it? 2. Is it better than Breaking Bad? 3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it? 4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL? 5. Is it actually good? Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant... |
| Yikes. That's one big spider, lol. But Ikta really sucks when it comes to combat, lol. I wonder what he saw in that cell? Damn cliffhanger.... Good episode. |
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| @Shrimperor delete that. They didn't skip it, they're going to put it at the end of the cour. Meaning, you're doing something that is not allowed on MAL : discussing of something that has yet to happen in an episode in an episode thread. Discussing skipped content is fine, but this wasn't skipped. they're moving things around. |
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| I'm really liking this, characters and interactions especially. When Yatori kicked Ikkun lolol. I love this girl. :D Also, always gotta love the mountain people. Reminds me of Kingdom. Only slightly though. |
Zefyris said: ^But characters are referring to it despite that. They pushed it back at the end of the anime, it seems. Not a huge fan of the way the events of this episode are put in anime format, honestly. Not about what they cut or not, but simply, the whole episode is wholly lacking of any sort of smart handling of all those new informations. Basically, the camera, the character talking just standing here not moving or just walking together, and the like. This is bellow average for adapting something. It's extremely lacking visually ImO. I'm a anime-only viewer, but thats what I thought when watching it. Loved all the previous episodes, but this one felt lazy and a little bit boring. |
| Liked this episode a lot. Yotori knows how to put a plug in Ikta's amorous nature (getting kicked hard in the shin REALLY hurts!) The more I see Ikta the more its cementing that its not so much that he's some super, infallible military genius, its more like he has truly applied himself to military science. |
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| ok looking good....I bet the army did something to the tribe |
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| So Matthew wants to improve himself so that he can reach Ikta and Yatori's level because they're way above everyone else in many things. Remeon is afraid of facing enemies in close combat because he probably fears that he might not stand a chance if the enemy so much as sees him. So that's why he's a sniper. You can't spot a sniper in the forest that easily and his aim is good so he doesn't miss. It's the perfect job for him. And the new recruits are sent to the northern mountains as part of their training for six months. The local tribe there are hostile towards those around them and have caused the Empire quite a lot of trouble. But they stopped for the past couple of years. And now they're planning on stirring up things again to gain the land they lost probably to the empire. And Ikta is obviously running around in places he shouldn't be. And Kanna is kawaii. The cutest girl in this show so far, more cuter than loli Yatori. Some man senior to her tries to take away some books which would fetch a high enough price if sold. And Ikta deals with him. But Ikta is caught and dragged off. Lol it was as if he skipped on the patrol to pick up girls. And he runs off to see something in a dungeon. That was an interesting development. And by Ikta's looks, whatever is in there is so not pretty. |
| Man, this episode just set up our soldiers fighting the Shinak tribe. |
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| Does that girl at the end remind anyone of Yo Tan Wa (Mountain King) from Kingdom? I see some LN readers complaining about the adaptation, can someone clue me in on the problems? Also no spoilers please! |
Goku said: I see some LN readers complaining about the adaptation, can someone clue me in on the problems? Also no spoilers please! Besides the usual things that get complained about during adaptations or low budget episodes, they skipped a very important part of the story. Important as in basically the defining moment of the story. There's speculation that it might get thrown in at the end, but even if they do, it's very poor story telling. |
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