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Aug 3, 2009 11:22 PM
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OMG best dam thing i can hope from this chapter after last chapter.

He did it, he said the words he will succeed the shop that's what i wanted, and with the price he paid, can't age, <epic>, and can grant wish for real<shit awesome>.

He wore the long cape thing whatever u called it and smoke the pipe, too epic of a chapter, shit load that made me to smiley and happy. lol

to awesome, this chapter is. lol but... how does this fit in to Tsubasa , i think we will find out soon.
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Watanuki looking after the shop and smoking pipe like Yuuko...
I Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!!
Aug 4, 2009 12:18 AM
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I completly agree one of best chapter. Finally something happend ;]
And the scene when he took a pipe was nice ;]
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Great now the last thing we need is that Watanuki will turn out to be the younger version of Fei Wong, who couldn't wait for Yuuko and eventually decided to resurrect her.
Aug 4, 2009 2:56 AM
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Watanuki looking after the shop and smoking pipe like Yuuko...


FWRFWRFWRFWRFWRFWRFWRFWRFWRFWRFWR
FWRFWRFWRFWRFWRFWRFWRFWRFWRFWRFWR
FWRFWRFWRFWRFWRFWRFWRFWRFWRFWRFWR
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I hope he isn't Fei Wong, but I can completely see it somehow...
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Aug 4, 2009 3:41 AM
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this chapter felt... surreal, heh.
Aug 4, 2009 3:51 AM
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That was a great chapter,the best one in a long time! Feels like it's finally moving! I wonder what Doumeki will decide to do with the egg...
Aug 4, 2009 4:10 AM
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Great now the last thing we need is that Watanuki will turn out to be the younger version of Fei Wong, who couldn't wait for Yuuko and eventually decided to resurrect her.


omg that's horrible troll if it's true :(

Aug 4, 2009 4:57 AM
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XD it'll be absolutely horrible if thats true..whats Doumeki gonna do with the egg? i have no idea..
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I was totally thinking on a whole other level - I laughed at myself.

I was like, omg - what if Watanuki is Yuuko?!?! Or something like that.

It only lasted a few seconds, then I laughed pitifully at my stupidity XD
Aug 4, 2009 6:35 AM

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I totally saw this coming. Now all those fanfics that have Watanuki inheriting the shop in the future can be considered Canon ^_^
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between last chapter and this chapter, i pretty much conclude that the egg is to erase watanuki's memories, potentially the entire world's memories, of yuuko. that way watanuki could live his life as a healthy, normal boy, which is what i'm sure yuuko wanted, and that choice she gave to doumeki. it seems like he's hesitant about doing this, because watanuki's so adamant about succeeding the shop, but..i have a feeling the egg might be used. just to end the story for good.
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Watanuki may be FWR, but I´ve got a strong feeling he might be Clow!!
Aug 4, 2009 7:07 AM

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Epic chapter. Loved it, loved it, loved it. :D

I never even thought of the possibility that Watanuki might be FWR... no matter how sad that might make me, it would be a freaking awesome twist.
Aug 4, 2009 7:12 AM
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that will be TOO damn sad if that's the case..I really hope not.....I bet Doumkei's egg will be key to breaking the infinite loop in TRC
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Awesome, awesome chapter. Something happened!
Watanuki taking the shop, I can't really say I wasn't expecting it, but seeing it happen is something in itself.

The fact that he can't age and he can grant wishes...so cool!
Aug 4, 2009 10:26 AM

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between last chapter and this chapter, i pretty much conclude that the egg is to erase watanuki's memories, potentially the entire world's memories, of yuuko. that way watanuki could live his life as a healthy, normal boy, which is what i'm sure yuuko wanted, and that choice she gave to doumeki. it seems like he's hesitant about doing this, because watanuki's so adamant about succeeding the shop, but..i have a feeling the egg might be used. just to end the story for good.


tat is a gd idea but i doubt it will b so.. cas tat will cas watanuki to revert back to who he is previously in a sense... he is who he is today largely due to yuuko..
and yea wat is with FW and the resurrection man...
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Watanuki may be FWR, but I´ve got a strong feeling he might be Clow!!

I actually share your strong feelings. It would be an interesting use of the loop plot in Tsubasa applied to Holic. If Watanuki is FWR, then it would explain his determination to resurrect her, and if he's Clow then it explains the brief but powerful desire to keep her living even though death, which started it all.
But still remains the question of what does Doumeki egg do. Chryseis' idea looks nice, but since Doumeki determined that he couldn't use it on Watanuki since he only had one shot would mean that the egg only affects one person.
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Watanuki may be FWR, but I´ve got a strong feeling he might be Clow!!
This. Watanuki can be either one, it makes my head hurt just thinking about it lol XD
Mhm, I wonder what's the power of that egg though?


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I knew FWR is an incarnation of Syaroan, but him being Watanuki blew my mind.
Watanuki and FWR are in relations of "no" time and they both care for the Dimension Witch.
But, I have to agree that Watanuki may possibly be Clow because they look alike.
Instead of the Watanuki/FWR, I previously kept thinking that the Dimension Witch is Sakura.

The egg is probably the erasure of one's memories, but I, too, believe that the egg is a "dream".
Domeki may not have the egg with Watanuki because Watanuki is a lost cause for achieving his dream because he LONGS for and cares for the Dimension Witch similarly like FWR.
FWR is trying very, VERY hard to make his dream come true(bring back a dead person back), but he is somewhat failing. Thus, Watanuki's dream cannot come true.
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I knew FWR is an incarnation of Syaroan
Wait. WHAT?! What are you talking about XD?
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Yeah we really don't want Watanuki to be FWR, because he was so cool and such a good character in Holic, and if its true and if we compare it to the future him in Tubasa we feel, well i would feel sad, that he would turn out that way, if that's the case i hope he just inherits the shop and not try anything rash to resurrect her, instead just wait for a her to reincarnate some ages later, and then they meet again.
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confuser987 said:
I knew FWR is an incarnation of Syaroan
Wait. WHAT?! What are you talking about XD?


I meant that Fei Wong is "Syaroan" through Watanuki.

Chimasternmay said:
Yeah we really don't want Watanuki to be FWR, because he was so cool and such a good character in Holic, and if its true and if we compare it to the future him in Tubasa we feel, well i would feel sad, that he would turn out that way, if that's the case i hope he just inherits the shop and not try anything rash to resurrect her, instead just wait for a her to reincarnate some ages later, and then they meet again.

It is Noein all over again... JK.
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confuser987 said:
robbydesu said:
confuser987 said:
I knew FWR is an incarnation of Syaroan
Wait. WHAT?! What are you talking about XD?


I meant that Fei Wong is "Syaroan" through Watanuki.

Chimasternmay said:
Yeah we really don't want Watanuki to be FWR, because he was so cool and such a good character in Holic, and if its true and if we compare it to the future him in Tubasa we feel, well i would feel sad, that he would turn out that way, if that's the case i hope he just inherits the shop and not try anything rash to resurrect her, instead just wait for a her to reincarnate some ages later, and then they meet again.

It is Noein all over again... JK.


lol, yea i remember Noein, i just didn't know who to like in their lol. girl was to hung up on the future till like the last episode lol.
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I'm wondering what's going to happen from here on out. Watanuki can't be Fei Wong. He said that he's waiting though. Fei Wong must be another man.
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confuser987 said:
robbydesu said:
confuser987 said:
I knew FWR is an incarnation of Syaroan
Wait. WHAT?! What are you talking about XD?


I meant that Fei Wong is "Syaroan" through Watanuki.

How does that even work? That makes no sense...
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robbydesu said:
confuser987 said:
robbydesu said:
confuser987 said:
I knew FWR is an incarnation of Syaroan
Wait. WHAT?! What are you talking about XD?


I meant that Fei Wong is "Syaroan" through Watanuki.

How does that even work? That makes no sense...


if they wanted to work i think they could, because in Tsubasa changes in the present can effect the past so the past can be changed to.....

i think we should not make too many judgments on stuff atm, like who is who, or trying to guess the thing that is about to happen, who cares ; lets just wait till chapter come and see what story they want us too see.
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Chimasternmay said:
robbydesu said:
confuser987 said:
robbydesu said:
confuser987 said:
I knew FWR is an incarnation of Syaroan
Wait. WHAT?! What are you talking about XD?


I meant that Fei Wong is "Syaroan" through Watanuki.

How does that even work? That makes no sense...


if they wanted to work i think they could, because in Tsubasa changes in the present can effect the past so the past can be changed to.....

i think we should not make too many judgments on stuff atm, like who is who, or trying to guess the thing that is about to happen, who cares ; lets just wait till chapter come and see what story they want us too see.
What, but that's the whole point of discussion. Just because we don't know what will happen or what is what - doesn't restrict us from making theories of our own or challenging others XD that beats the whole purpose of discussion

As for confuser987's theory - it's an interesting one, and it could be plausible...if CLAMP really forces it. Even if the time factor is applied - the fact is that they look nothing alike personalities are not alike either. I truly see Fei Wong and Yuuko as seperate characters from Sakura and Syaoran.
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It was a good chapter.
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It's hard to tell... But indeed... this chapter was epic.... But I feel... bad for both Doumeki and Watanuki... I feel that the egg is like someone else here said.... The egg will only take effect in one people... Watanuki saying he's going to take over the Shop... And saying he will fill in Yuuko's role... And he will not age... just as Yuuko happened to be.... Hmmm this really sounds promising... I dunno what kind of twists CLAMP can use of at this point... But I'd not be surprised if Watanuki turned out to be the past of FWR... Poor Doumeki... I think he's breaking up from the inside... He doubts... and he doesn't want to activate the egg....

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Aug 4, 2009 9:13 PM
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Amazing chapter... I took Yuuko's death pretty hard, but this chapter totally makes up for it. I could see it coming a mile away, but the way it was executed was brilliant. The last scene with Watanuki smoking the ol' opium pipe kinda made me tear up a bit... I can't wait to see how Watanuki will take up the job.

Can't contribute to the Tsubasa discussion because, well, I don't read Tsubasa. Beautiful chapter, nonetheless. Time to get the story rolling again!
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OMG watanuki the shop owner...expected but still amazing
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Already expecting something like this to happen after the last chapters.

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Watanuki may be FWR, but I´ve got a strong feeling he might be Clow!!
^same
Aug 5, 2009 4:46 AM

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I wonder if Watanuki starts to drink now :D Of course as much as Yuuko was drinking.

I'm for Watanuki - Clow theory.

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I'm for Watanuki - Clow theory.

Yeas that would make the whole series much more Epic and legendary, rather then him being FWR u know what i mean.
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Chimasternmay said:
Gucia said:

I'm for Watanuki - Clow theory.

Yeas that would make the whole series much more Epic and legendary, rather then him being FWR u know what i mean.

Of course, you're right. And I like thinking of him as Clow, because he would have more "pure" motive towards Yuuko than FWR, and it suits Watanuki more than becoming all greedy and consume by hatred in the future.

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Amazing chapter... I took Yuuko's death pretty hard, but this chapter totally makes up for it. I could see it coming a mile away, but the way it was executed was brilliant. The last scene with Watanuki smoking the ol' opium pipe kinda made me tear up a bit... I can't wait to see how Watanuki will take up the job.

Can't contribute to the Tsubasa discussion because, well, I don't read Tsubasa. Beautiful chapter, nonetheless. Time to get the story rolling again!


You look at Yuuko at another way. Yuuko's time was stopped. Now she went through death. Making her live...
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Now she went through death. Making her live...
What do you mean by that?
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Of course, you're right. And I like thinking of him as Clow, because he would have more "pure" motive towards Yuuko than FWR, and it suits Watanuki more than becoming all greedy and consume by hatred in the future.


Which would fit perfect if Syaoran is FWR.

Watanuki/Clow and Syaoran/FWR - two different existence outcomes depending on the decision.
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Darn! How can Watanuki be the past of Fei Wong Reed? He made a choice to WAIT for Yuuko. He can't simply do something as diabolical as what FWR did to bring Yuuko back to life. Watanuki= Clow theory sounds frigging cool though.
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Darn! How can Watanuki be the past of Fei Wong Reed? He made a choice to WAIT for Yuuko. He can't simply do something as diabolical as what FWR did to bring Yuuko back to life. Watanuki= Clow theory sounds frigging cool though.
Yea out of all these out of the world theories, I think the only one I'm willing to accept is the Watanuki = Clow theory.

It's important to remember that if that's the case, there's another time paradox thing going on again because Clow is R!Syaoran descendent.
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08/03 - Young Magazine #36 & #37 - Chapter 185.
08/17 - Young Magazine #38 - No XXXHOLiC scheduled.
08/24 - Young Magazine #39 - Chapter 186.

>.> This is why CLAMP is starting to piss me off....They ALWAYS take extended breaks >.<
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EvilSapphire said:
Darn! How can Watanuki be the past of Fei Wong Reed? He made a choice to WAIT for Yuuko. He can't simply do something as diabolical as what FWR did to bring Yuuko back to life. Watanuki= Clow theory sounds frigging cool though.

Well, I was surprised at how much Watanuki actually cares for Yuuko as detailed in the latest xxxHOLiC chapters. And if you love someone that much (that's love, not in love), you can do anything, even if it's trying to revive someone like FWR has done.

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08/03 - Young Magazine #36 & #37 - Chapter 185.
08/17 - Young Magazine #38 - No XXXHOLiC scheduled.
08/24 - Young Magazine #39 - Chapter 186.

>.> This is why CLAMP is starting to piss me off....They ALWAYS take extended breaks >.<

Dear lord, 3 weeks...
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sarroush said:
08/03 - Young Magazine #36 & #37 - Chapter 185.
08/17 - Young Magazine #38 - No XXXHOLiC scheduled.
08/24 - Young Magazine #39 - Chapter 186.

>.> This is why CLAMP is starting to piss me off....They ALWAYS take extended breaks >.<
it normally wouldn't bother me, but didn't they just have a break?
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]it normally wouldn't bother me, but didn't they just have a break?


They did, and THAT's whats bothering me..It's like they can't have 2 weeks in a row >.> They always need a break
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They did, and THAT's whats bothering me..It's like they can't have 2 weeks in a row >.> They always need a break
yeah... i guess you can get away with that kind of thing when you're a big group like CLAMP :/
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yeah... i guess you can get away with that kind of thing when you're a big group like CLAMP :/


>.> So mean~ Making fans suffer like this T_T
Aug 11, 2009 4:56 AM
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And yet we squeal in delight every time a new chapter's published. TvT
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And yet we squeal in delight every time a new chapter's published. TvT


T_T I know....We're brainwashed by CLAMP I suppose o_O
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