Vinland Saga Chapter 217 Discussion

true victory is not killing your enemies but making peace - thorfinn

if we kill our enemies will we be free? - eren

ye the difference between attack on titan and vinland saga

true victory is not killing your enemies but making peace - thorfinn

if we kill our enemies will we be free? - eren

ye the difference between attack on titan and vinland saga

@deg you cannot compare

Shonen stories do not emphasize on character development much and they focus on "action" and "thrill" a lot

Vinland is a seinen that focuses on world building and character building ... Thorfinn was a killing machine but then changed ... the story here has a deeper meaning.

Honestly, I agree with "true victory is not killing your enemies but making peace" because you can your enemy but lose most of your people, money, infrastructure, etc., which is not a true victory. Peace is always better than war

But AOT focus on character development a lot.

Vinland Saga and AOT both have different philosophy which fits perfectly in their own series.

@ZXEAN What character development in AOT? Very superficial development ... it is a things in shonen they don't want authors to focus on logical character development it is mostly "get stronger", "revenge", "for the sake of my friends". In shonen you want the characters to appeal to younger generations; developing the character's personality ruins it for viewers who got attached to the character because of its original personality.


Development is what they call "a character arc", which is "the transformation or inner journey of a character over the course of a story". In Action shonen, it is about getting stronger only and that's very superficial. Some people might disagree but this is my take.

When watching Aot and other shonen stories, you never wait for "character development" you mostly look for the fights and how the story would turn out, no one says "I am looking forward to how X character would develop" as that development is usually limited to power.

It doesn't mean AoT is bad, it is just that this is how it works for shonen magazines; directors used to force authors not to change characters significantly or kill loved characters because they just care about the money and younger generations drop mangas for the slightest reason.

Many anime watchers hated Vinland saga 2 because Thorfinn's character changed and they only wanted a "bad-ass" version of Thorfinn.

Again, this is just my opinion based on the differences I observed between shonen and seinen

@UaEfAlCoN83 Attack on Titan isn't like your typical Shounen series.

Anyway here I am not gonna explain how it defer from other series or explain the character development of each characters since I am not that good at it but There are countless YouTube video explaining that if you are interested you can check those out.

@ZXEAN Bro I watched AoT and hundreds of shonen for me it was the same. If I need a youtube video to explain the character development this shows that the author failed at conveying it to the reader/watcher.

Again it is just an opinion doesn't change anything in the world. People perceive things differently which is why we have all these different stories out there because people are not the same.