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| That was a lot take in. Souls are again being mentioned, but now it’s very clear that they have a role in the Abyss. I felt like some stuff was answered, yet we’re so far from the truth. I hope Nanachi is okay :( |
Reply to SIimyBread
this one took so long when is the next chapter coming out
| @SIimyBread He has no schedule |
| 死だけが確実 |
Reply to Belafu
I think this chapter is one of the most important ones in the series (and it has very little to do with Nanachi)
The abyss, most likely, is the amalgamation of souls, or more particularly the collective unconscious. Souls don't exist outside of Orth/the abyss because the collective unconscious resides in the abyss. Every 2000 years, the abyss overflows due to the amount of collective unconsciousness built up which causes the curse (or the curse itself is the unconscious) to leak out. This is also further supported by a psychologist named Jung who described the conscious, subconscious, and unconscious mind as basically an abyss that could be an inspiration for the series.
The abyss judges the conscious and unconscious mind instead of what actually is. For instance, the orphans likely were assigned their birthdates due to fallen parents. That date isn't their real birthdate. however, they still die on that day. That's because their conscious mind believes that is their birthday. The fact that Riko and the others do not know what time it is actually protects them from this. Furthermore, we can also see this pattern in a previous arc with the value of objects. Riko's attachment to Meinya, a squished creature, holds more weight in the abyss's eyes than any treasure, solely because of her unwavering belief in its value, not because of what its objective value actually is. Kajyu mentions that those who believe their own lies have that has their true truth. Therefore, a lot of the consequences of the abyss result purely based on how one's mind perceives it rather than how it actually is.
So, why does this matter? Well, it would give a reasonable explanation for why Riko is actually likely to make it to the bottom. Riko is optimistic, a little oblivious (maybe intentionally!), and unaware of the surface's current time. These would all be protective factors for why a childlike wonder would actually benefit someone down to the abyss's deepest parts. If Riko does not know the time, then she cannot succumb to the birthday death disease. Riko is flawed which ironically makes her protected.
The abyss, most likely, is the amalgamation of souls, or more particularly the collective unconscious. Souls don't exist outside of Orth/the abyss because the collective unconscious resides in the abyss. Every 2000 years, the abyss overflows due to the amount of collective unconsciousness built up which causes the curse (or the curse itself is the unconscious) to leak out. This is also further supported by a psychologist named Jung who described the conscious, subconscious, and unconscious mind as basically an abyss that could be an inspiration for the series.
The abyss judges the conscious and unconscious mind instead of what actually is. For instance, the orphans likely were assigned their birthdates due to fallen parents. That date isn't their real birthdate. however, they still die on that day. That's because their conscious mind believes that is their birthday. The fact that Riko and the others do not know what time it is actually protects them from this. Furthermore, we can also see this pattern in a previous arc with the value of objects. Riko's attachment to Meinya, a squished creature, holds more weight in the abyss's eyes than any treasure, solely because of her unwavering belief in its value, not because of what its objective value actually is. Kajyu mentions that those who believe their own lies have that has their true truth. Therefore, a lot of the consequences of the abyss result purely based on how one's mind perceives it rather than how it actually is.
So, why does this matter? Well, it would give a reasonable explanation for why Riko is actually likely to make it to the bottom. Riko is optimistic, a little oblivious (maybe intentionally!), and unaware of the surface's current time. These would all be protective factors for why a childlike wonder would actually benefit someone down to the abyss's deepest parts. If Riko does not know the time, then she cannot succumb to the birthday death disease. Riko is flawed which ironically makes her protected.
| @Belafu wow thanks so much for the aclarations! Maybe Riko is a dead soul that instead of going back to the abyss, through the relic as a vessel, inserted itself to riko’s body?? But that soul isn’t from riko, maybe it’s from another person that used that relic before to insert their soul?? Idk….So the daughter of riko’s mother died there at least “in soul”. I don’t remember that sequence tho. And NANACHI??? like please so random… either way her conflict was kinda being elongated and its wasn’t giving any dramatical growth, they were lbeinf just there so I don’t know, but i love nanachi hope something miraculous to happen |
ObakezokuMar 10, 7:31 AM
| Wow, the seventh layer appears incredibly intense right from the start. It delves deep into lore, exploring the intricacies of souls, the 2000-year gap, and the intriguing concept of time passing slowly within the abyss—a kind of boon for those deemed "defective" who opt to dive in rather than succumb to being consumed by the abyss on the surface and adding to its layers. Also, NANACHI BACK TO SUFFERING?!?!!?! |
| It was awesome to get some answers to the bigger picture! I had no idea where the birthday death plot line could be going but now it's starting to make sense. |
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| The souls, interesting point!!! kekeke |
| Ehh .. surely Nanachi ain't dead-dead, when she died the exact moment the manga brought up resurrecting people/and or the possibility of it ... right, that would be way on the nose. |
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Reply to HireraSpark1234
no way in hell nanachi just died
HireraSpark1234 said: no way in hell nanachi just died Unlikely, pay attention to what Reg is doing. From the moment the tentacle thing snatched Nanachi till the end of the chapter Reg was able to turn around, grasp the situation, fire his arm and pretty much reach Nanachi's tail. Given the reaction speed Reg demonstrated here there is no way that he fails to grab onto Nanachi. As I see it this is either done to split up the group or to give Reg the opportunity to "beat the creature out of its hiding spot" to initiate some sort of "boss battle" with Nanachi's action (saving the twins) setting up for some character interactions later on. |
| They're finally in the 7th layer: The Final Maelstrom. There's gotta be a layer deeper than that though. Their discussion on souls unlocked the mysteries and the truthfulness of the Birthday Death disease. What the heck!? Did Nanachi get crushed to death? I hope not, Nanachi is the GOATed character. I hope not, but her body looked like mashed potatoes man. I got random photos from the chapter: |
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| NOOOO NANACHI 😭 Aside from that evil cliffhanger, this was an amazing chapter. Finally an answer to the birthday curse. There was also a lot of cute/sweet moments. Here are some of my favorite pages: |
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