Utawarerumono: Futari no Hakuoro Episode 2 Discussion

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they are doing a wonderful job of course there's some things change skipped or even rushed
but I enjoy the first two episodes nonetheless and I'm excited to see what they will do with the rest of the series.😁

koala12345Jul 2, 2022 12:25 PM

Jul 2, 2022 12:24 PM

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Animaniaig said:
The second episode was a direct downgrade from the first in basically every way. The opening is okay, I thought I heard autotune for some of it and it wasn't very fitting, but they are really rushing through content. This is content that's a good 15 hours into the story on episode 2. Animation this episode was a lot worse than the previous one as well. I can definitely see it getting worse from here on.

ohhhhhhh of course there's no no way around the squeaky elitists nowadays who are not just satisfied on anything they get
sigh----really don't understand those people and I'm glad I don't.😑

Jul 2, 2022 12:39 PM

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Suara doesn't ever miss! The OP is great but the ED is breathtaking

Animaniaig said:
This is content that's a good 15 hours into the story on episode 2

That's a blatant lie, at most it's 10 hours in with gameplay included and probably down to 5-6 without gameplay (depending on how quickly you read). They're giving this game 28 episodes, we should be grateful for that and it's more than enough for a decent enough adaptation. Adaptation doesn't equal the VN in animated form word for word, it's an adaptation into a different medium.

FireFistYKJul 2, 2022 12:57 PM

Jul 2, 2022 1:41 PM

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So far, the adaptation is epic, though i’m not really fan of the opening. Probably the only bad point for me so far. Would definitely have preferred a remix of the game opening song.

Jul 2, 2022 4:55 PM

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This episode was over in a flash, reminds me of the previous season, it is so engaging you feel like 5 mins have passed.

Those two were some great songs by Suara and Kuon T-T I miss her.

akuma2002 said:
So far, the adaptation is epic, though i’m not really fan of the opening. Probably the only bad point for me so far. Would definitely have preferred a remix of the game opening song.

That would have been great, Hikari is such an amazing song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILKnlZq7hQY

KanameYuukiJul 2, 2022 4:58 PM

Jul 2, 2022 7:06 PM

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OMG OMG OMG.
THE OP SHOWED THE MOTHER.....
IM CRYING ALREADY.

All these game OSTs are just the best.

Maroro.....

Also, it's unfortunate that all the world building/character building are being skipped but it is what it is to move the plot forward.

PS. This is the end of a trilogy so the stakes are as high as they can get.

Jul 3, 2022 2:39 AM

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Ok, if my memory serves me right, we're on track with missing many crucial scenes. Like at this point in the game we knew

I gotta wonder how they will explain all of this. I'm worried this will become a trend, and this game thrives on those small events, scenes that later have huge impact.

FreiszczeJul 3, 2022 2:52 AM

Jul 3, 2022 3:43 AM

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Freiszcze said:
Ok, if my memory serves me right, we're on track with missing many crucial scenes. Like at this point in the game we knew

I gotta wonder how they will explain all of this. I'm worried this will become a trend, and this game thrives on those small events, scenes that later have huge impact.

Also these small events are way too numerous, hours of content. you can't expect them all to be animated. Seeing as they have to reach the ending in 28 episodes or ~9 hours.

Jul 3, 2022 3:56 AM

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Although I can't remember anything about the prequel, I still remember Dekoponpo's unique characterization.

Jul 3, 2022 4:27 AM

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booyah10 said:

Freiszcze said:
Ok, if my memory serves me right, we're on track with missing many crucial scenes. Like at this point in the game we knew

I gotta wonder how they will explain all of this. I'm worried this will become a trend, and this game thrives on those small events, scenes that later have huge impact.

Also these small events are way too numerous, hours of content. you can't expect them all to be animated. Seeing as they have to reach the ending in 28 episodes or ~9 hours.

I don't really mind small events, it's inevitable they will skip them. What I meant are actually huge parts of plot, that will need to be explained at some point. I mean, they still haven't explained

FreiszczeJul 3, 2022 4:33 AM

Jul 3, 2022 4:48 AM

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Dekoponpo is already doing his own thing. I wonder why they didn't get rid of him right away. Looks like Raikou is doing it in a roundabout way but Dekoponpo seems to have a lot of luck though.

The opening looks great and so is the ending.

Jul 3, 2022 6:15 AM

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Does anyone know where's kuon? Is she dead? I kinda forgot the story because it was like 6 years ago lmao

Jul 3, 2022 6:46 AM

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GurenNoOu said:
Does anyone know where's kuon? Is she dead? I kinda forgot the story because it was like 6 years ago lmao

In the last episode last season, she left the party after learning of Haku's death

Jul 3, 2022 8:39 AM

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I am seeing a lot of people saying that op is not good. personally i REALLY like it. the only complaints i have with the opening is the ending portion. 1. a weird way to end the song which doesn't sound good and 2. the fact that the song is ending.
I bet they will use the song from the games and previous series in various high points of the Story.

as for pacing it is a bit fast but i think after this section, they will slow down a bit. cuz it wouldn't be good if it went at this pace. cuz it would roughly be done in 12 episodes. i have hope.

Jul 3, 2022 9:28 AM

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mystic_vitriol said:
I am seeing a lot of people saying that op is not good. personally i REALLY like it. the only complaints i have with the opening is the ending portion. 1. a weird way to end the song which doesn't sound good and 2. the fact that the song is ending.
I bet they will use the song from the games and previous series in various high points of the Story.

as for pacing it is a bit fast but i think after this section, they will slow down a bit. cuz it wouldn't be good if it went at this pace. cuz it would roughly be done in 12 episodes. i have hope.

It's good if not used for utawarerumono op, sung by Suara but there is no Suara in it, out of character. You can compare that opening song with other songs sung by Suara..

Jul 3, 2022 9:41 AM

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They rushed 4h content to only 48 minute episode anime but I think it's a good thing, cuz deep down we all know that we don't want to see dekopompo very often omegalul, probably he will got the last screentime in the next episode.

Jul 3, 2022 11:55 AM

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Qanil said:

mystic_vitriol said:
I am seeing a lot of people saying that op is not good. personally i REALLY like it. the only complaints i have with the opening is the ending portion. 1. a weird way to end the song which doesn't sound good and 2. the fact that the song is ending.
I bet they will use the song from the games and previous series in various high points of the Story.

as for pacing it is a bit fast but i think after this section, they will slow down a bit. cuz it wouldn't be good if it went at this pace. cuz it would roughly be done in 12 episodes. i have hope.

It's good if not used for utawarerumono op, sung by Suara but there is no Suara in it, out of character. You can compare that opening song with other songs sung by Suara..

i mean yeah it is a bit different from the usual suara. but i like it nonetheless. i would have also liked it if it was similar but there are a lot of suara songs like that. so, depending on what that imaginary song could have been, this might be a better song

Jul 3, 2022 12:09 PM

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Oh boy this sucks
While the original Utawarerumono was a war story of a man who happened to amass a harem of dangerous imbeciles, 2 is content to solely be the story of how a harem of imbeciles exists and somewhere a war is happening. For every bit about the war, there's three or four scenes of girls bathing or just lounging around with their boobs out, which is also just about the only thing White Fox is animating with it. Now with extra sadness over killing off a character after 25 episodes. You know, the call to action that the first season did after like… 3. And still has not actually responded to the call.

Jul 4, 2022 7:23 AM

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It's a bit what I expected. Quite fast paced for who has played the VN.
The OP is decent. I like Nuedori over this one.
The ED though, damn, that one hit hard on me. It felt like an ode to the very first Utawarerumono ED Madoromi no Rinne.

Jul 4, 2022 8:10 AM

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Please tell me we will get enough screentime for Eruru, Touka and Kurara. I miss the original cast.

Jul 4, 2022 4:01 PM

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for people who still think that episode 2 is worth for 5 of 5, well the real blind ignorant is real in real life

c'mon, where is chikinaro? if this series really want to adapt after war arc then the existence of chikinaro in here is important because he is the only one to make kuon can appear once again with logic reason

didn't annihilate fat guys is too fast? this episode is where we can see anju recover slowly with chikinaro help, let me said it once again episdoe 2 is impossible if chikinaro is not in there

so now we must see grilled whole pig in the next episode without healthy anju? then for what purpose is they try protect her?

they protect anju because is the real, then this is where they should ask her if she still want return to the capital city or not BUT to ask her about it, they should recover her at least until she can talk with her own words clearly

normally, the scene where anju already in health condition and oshtor-haku try to test her vessel as the new emperor is in the middle of episode 3 OR at least show that anju is recovered in the end of episode 2. why? because if that fat pig killed without anju in there to witness it, her presence will be blurr soon to future episode like where we can see how wide is anju vessel as an emperor? the scene where mikazuchi test haku to worth to called himself as oshtor? or the scene where tuskur princess come to replace her and retake capital city for her? c'mon, the time after preparation before war is really so few and i doubt the conversation in war time can adapted well in here when the time is comes

really, the episode 2 is where oshtor-haku at least try to make a contact to other character by himself and nursing anju with the medicine given by chikinaro at the same time

if there is people in here who try to watch S1 and watch episode 1 & 2 right away after that, trust me most of them will suffered with huge frustation why the scene in episode 1 & 2 is so free despite what happen in the last episode of S1

Jul 4, 2022 9:07 PM

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Rizki_Diablo said:
for people who still think that episode 2 is worth for 5 of 5, well the real blind ignorant is real in real life

c'mon, where is chikinaro? if this series really want to adapt after war arc then the existence of chikinaro in here is important because he is the only one to make kuon can appear once again with logic reason

didn't annihilate fat guys is too fast? this episode is where we can see anju recover slowly with chikinaro help, let me said it once again episdoe 2 is impossible if chikinaro is not in there

so now we must see grilled whole pig in the next episode without healthy anju? then for what purpose is they try protect her?

they protect anju because is the real, then this is where they should ask her if she still want return to the capital city or not BUT to ask her about it, they should recover her at least until she can talk with her own words clearly

normally, the scene where anju already in health condition and oshtor-haku try to test her vessel as the new emperor is in the middle of episode 3 OR at least show that anju is recovered in the end of episode 2. why? because if that fat pig killed without anju in there to witness it, her presence will be blurr soon to future episode like where we can see how wide is anju vessel as an emperor? the scene where mikazuchi test haku to worth to called himself as oshtor? or the scene where tuskur princess come to replace her and retake capital city for her? c'mon, the time after preparation before war is really so few and i doubt the conversation in war time can adapted well in here when the time is comes

really, the episode 2 is where oshtor-haku at least try to make a contact to other character by himself and nursing anju with the medicine given by chikinaro at the same time

if there is people in here who try to watch S1 and watch episode 1 & 2 right away after that, trust me most of them will suffered with huge frustation why the scene in episode 1 & 2 is so free despite what happen in the last episode of S1

If you will constantly compare the game with the anime, you will never be satisfied as it is impossible to fit the whole game into 9 hours. You have to take it as is. Lots of sacrifices naturally has to be made.

Jul 4, 2022 11:59 PM

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booyah10 said:

Rizki_Diablo said:
for people who still think that episode 2 is worth for 5 of 5, well the real blind ignorant is real in real life

c'mon, where is chikinaro? if this series really want to adapt after war arc then the existence of chikinaro in here is important because he is the only one to make kuon can appear once again with logic reason

didn't annihilate fat guys is too fast? this episode is where we can see anju recover slowly with chikinaro help, let me said it once again episdoe 2 is impossible if chikinaro is not in there

so now we must see grilled whole pig in the next episode without healthy anju? then for what purpose is they try protect her?

they protect anju because is the real, then this is where they should ask her if she still want return to the capital city or not BUT to ask her about it, they should recover her at least until she can talk with her own words clearly

normally, the scene where anju already in health condition and oshtor-haku try to test her vessel as the new emperor is in the middle of episode 3 OR at least show that anju is recovered in the end of episode 2. why? because if that fat pig killed without anju in there to witness it, her presence will be blurr soon to future episode like where we can see how wide is anju vessel as an emperor? the scene where mikazuchi test haku to worth to called himself as oshtor? or the scene where tuskur princess come to replace her and retake capital city for her? c'mon, the time after preparation before war is really so few and i doubt the conversation in war time can adapted well in here when the time is comes

really, the episode 2 is where oshtor-haku at least try to make a contact to other character by himself and nursing anju with the medicine given by chikinaro at the same time

if there is people in here who try to watch S1 and watch episode 1 & 2 right away after that, trust me most of them will suffered with huge frustation why the scene in episode 1 & 2 is so free despite what happen in the last episode of S1

If you will constantly compare the game with the anime, you will never be satisfied as it is impossible to fit the whole game into 9 hours. You have to take it as is. Lots of sacrifices naturally has to be made.

Yeah, but it's not about sacrificing small things, it's about MAIN PLOT which being told so far without key features from the game. Whole fight with Dekopomopo makes only sense if Anju is there. If she's still sick, why would Oshtor risk anything? I mean he can hide behind gates for years. They specifically said that storming Ennakamuyi is close to impossible. In the game this was fight to show everyone in Yamato that Anju has claim to a throne and she's willing to paint roads with blood to do so. And for Anju to understand what war and her claim will bring upon Yamato.

Jul 5, 2022 2:06 AM

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Rizki_Diablo said:
for people who still think that episode 2 is worth for 5 of 5, well the real blind ignorant is real in real life

c'mon, where is chikinaro? if this series really want to adapt after war arc then the existence of chikinaro in here is important because he is the only one to make kuon can appear once again with logic reason

didn't annihilate fat guys is too fast? this episode is where we can see anju recover slowly with chikinaro help, let me said it once again episdoe 2 is impossible if chikinaro is not in there

so now we must see grilled whole pig in the next episode without healthy anju? then for what purpose is they try protect her?

they protect anju because is the real, then this is where they should ask her if she still want return to the capital city or not BUT to ask her about it, they should recover her at least until she can talk with her own words clearly

normally, the scene where anju already in health condition and oshtor-haku try to test her vessel as the new emperor is in the middle of episode 3 OR at least show that anju is recovered in the end of episode 2. why? because if that fat pig killed without anju in there to witness it, her presence will be blurr soon to future episode like where we can see how wide is anju vessel as an emperor? the scene where mikazuchi test haku to worth to called himself as oshtor? or the scene where tuskur princess come to replace her and retake capital city for her? c'mon, the time after preparation before war is really so few and i doubt the conversation in war time can adapted well in here when the time is comes

really, the episode 2 is where oshtor-haku at least try to make a contact to other character by himself and nursing anju with the medicine given by chikinaro at the same time

if there is people in here who try to watch S1 and watch episode 1 & 2 right away after that, trust me most of them will suffered with huge frustation why the scene in episode 1 & 2 is so free despite what happen in the last episode of S1

just get a life you elitist fuckboy, people llike you are exactly why visual novel fans are looked down upon, it's because of obnoxious fans like you😑

Jul 5, 2022 6:34 PM

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koala12345 said:

Rizki_Diablo said:
for people who still think that episode 2 is worth for 5 of 5, well the real blind ignorant is real in real life

c'mon, where is chikinaro? if this series really want to adapt after war arc then the existence of chikinaro in here is important because he is the only one to make kuon can appear once again with logic reason

didn't annihilate fat guys is too fast? this episode is where we can see anju recover slowly with chikinaro help, let me said it once again episdoe 2 is impossible if chikinaro is not in there

so now we must see grilled whole pig in the next episode without healthy anju? then for what purpose is they try protect her?

they protect anju because is the real, then this is where they should ask her if she still want return to the capital city or not BUT to ask her about it, they should recover her at least until she can talk with her own words clearly

normally, the scene where anju already in health condition and oshtor-haku try to test her vessel as the new emperor is in the middle of episode 3 OR at least show that anju is recovered in the end of episode 2. why? because if that fat pig killed without anju in there to witness it, her presence will be blurr soon to future episode like where we can see how wide is anju vessel as an emperor? the scene where mikazuchi test haku to worth to called himself as oshtor? or the scene where tuskur princess come to replace her and retake capital city for her? c'mon, the time after preparation before war is really so few and i doubt the conversation in war time can adapted well in here when the time is comes

really, the episode 2 is where oshtor-haku at least try to make a contact to other character by himself and nursing anju with the medicine given by chikinaro at the same time

if there is people in here who try to watch S1 and watch episode 1 & 2 right away after that, trust me most of them will suffered with huge frustation why the scene in episode 1 & 2 is so free despite what happen in the last episode of S1

just get a life you elitist fuckboy, people llike you are exactly why visual novel fans are looked down upon, it's because of obnoxious fans like you😑

tf lol, anti critics?

Jul 5, 2022 6:43 PM

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Yes, we can't include the whole VN story in the anime, and it is not customary to compare them. But causality still exists, and there is such a thing as the butterfly effect. This is what caused the second season to fail.

Please feel free to cut filler scenes in Ennakamuy that are less important, but for cases such as the scenes of Kuon in Tuskuru, Chikinaro coming to Ennakamuy, and Anju recovering before fighting Dekopompo are very important in the story. Firstly to develop Anju's character, secondly to introduce Princess Tuskuru, and thirdly to make Anju and Princess Tuskuru's fight more meaningful.

Because season 3 tells the story of Kuon and Anju as the successor of White Lord, this is why the title is Futari no Hakuoro.

Jul 5, 2022 6:51 PM

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Anju had never been to a battlefield in her life, and the battle against Dekopompo was a good example for Anju to understand her duties as the next Mikado, especially since Dekopompo was an easy mite to fight.

We also receive original scenes, there are some interesting original scenes such as Soyankekur and Ozen who should be neutral but they sided with Raikou in the anime. This is interesting so that Oshtor can build alliances from scratch. Or like when Kiwru picked up the Royal Guard and his family from the Capital, there should be a missing connection because at the end of the second series Kiwru had already left for Ennakamuy, while in the game Kiwru is still in the capital. And that plot hole is closed well in the anime.

Jul 5, 2022 6:55 PM

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Elitist this elitist that, just stfu.

You might regret that there will most likely be no rematch between Vurai and Oshtor because in the anime Vurai is already turned to salt. This scene is very important for Nekone's character development to accept the fact that her brother has died.

Jul 6, 2022 8:34 AM

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