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Nov 23, 2021 11:55 PM
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This certainly looks interesting. I wonder who will choose which league.
Nov 24, 2021 12:20 AM
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Ok I legit disappointed with how Ego just absorbed the former U-20 players. Blue lock used to be a zero sum game for high school kids chosen from the entire HS of Japan and sacrificing them outright from the start, now he just accepted them nilly-willy and throw them out to Blue Lock's new advanced stage? Granted they were the former U-20 team but they are not even exposed to the initial harsh Blue Lock environment yet and he just accepted them?

This manga became tame as it goes and I don't like it. Remember at the start of the match with U-20 arc it was clearly said that Blue Lock will 'REPLACE' the U-20 team, not merge.

The U-20 defender at least are worth their salt, but the rest of the players in other position? Nah. Even if they were used to fulfill other roles than Forward the entire goal of Blue Lock is still for looking for that one Forward, and Blue Lock's current setup is still better anyway.
Nov 24, 2021 1:29 AM
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This stage really something.
Is we get to see Noel Noah in next chapter.
im not too good to speak english

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Nov 24, 2021 5:43 AM
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Definitely looking forward to it. I'm already sure Chigiri will choose England, but let's see. I wonder what Rin and Isagi might choose also hope we get a look at Kunigami soon.
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Nov 24, 2021 5:48 AM
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I love how the first spread page resembles Isagi's first entry in Blue Lock. Joining the fun, quite better.
Nov 24, 2021 6:15 AM
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While I feel like Isagi should choose Germany based on his play style thus far, I honestly feel like he's gonna pick Italy or something random lmao.
Nov 24, 2021 6:44 AM
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Gardefusilier said:
Ok I legit disappointed with how Ego just absorbed the former U-20 players. Blue lock used to be a zero sum game for high school kids chosen from the entire HS of Japan and sacrificing them outright from the start, now he just accepted them nilly-willy and throw them out to Blue Lock's new advanced stage? Granted they were the former U-20 team but they are not even exposed to the initial harsh Blue Lock environment yet and he just accepted them?

This manga became tame as it goes and I don't like it. Remember at the start of the match with U-20 arc it was clearly said that Blue Lock will 'REPLACE' the U-20 team, not merge.

The U-20 defender at least are worth their salt, but the rest of the players in other position? Nah. Even if they were used to fulfill other roles than Forward the entire goal of Blue Lock is still for looking for that one Forward, and Blue Lock's current setup is still better anyway.
While I agree that the U-20 weren't exposed to the initial Blue Lock environment, you have to consider that these are already world class players who were able to stand toe-to-toe with Blue Lock after their training at Blue Lock. That is to say, while they trained in an environment outside of Blue Lock, they still are at a level equal to that of most Blue Lock players post phase one.

On top of that, you have to also consider that the U-20 is also a part of Japan's youth who weren't given a chance to enter Blue Lock at the time of its conception. Excluding them when they've proven they can contend with the best at Blue Lock and couldn't join because they were already competing at the world level when Blue Lock formed would be wasteful and foolish of Ego, who's already been shown to make these kinds of exceptions for the betterment of Blue Lock by allowing Kunigami to continue in Blue Lock after his loss against Shidou, so it's not unreasonable that he would give world class Japanese players a chance to prove themselves in the environment of Blue Lock at the current phase, since they've proven themselves to be as good as the post phase one players at Blue Lock, as well as being necessary to boost the defense of Blue Lock for the upcoming world stage, and that's ultimately what Ego is doing.

As the number of players decrease while looking for the best striker, he's also looking for the most optimal team in terms of both defense and offense, so excluding U-20 when it's been proven to have an incredible defense would be counterintuitive to creating the most optimal team. As much as I love the defensive line of Aryu, Niko, and Gagamaru, that defense, and the 4-5-1 formation in general, wouldn't be enough against world class players, which was proven by Sae and Shidou crushing them in the second half and Blue Lock needing substitutions and their lead striker playing defense in order to keep up.

All this to say, you're completely in your right to be disappointed that the U-20 was allowed to join Blue Lock, but at the same time, it does make sense in terms of optimizing Blue Lock and would be wasteful to exclude them when they've already proven to be at a level akin to that of post phase one Blue Lock players and with the number of strikers continuing to fall. That, and discarding really interesting and developed characters after one game would be wasteful of the manga's creator in my opinion.
Nov 24, 2021 6:58 AM
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Well, I don't think it was a big surprise to see U-20 being used in Blue Lock. They're certainly on the same level as the Blue Lock players and I want to see Aiku more. He's an interesting and fun character. Blue Lock Phase 2 seems like to be an international training. Players have to choose between 5 countries (americans probably got it all wrong, just joking). Well, we all know which one Isagi will pick but I'm looking forward for the other choices. Also, don't forget that ONE player still has to arrive on the scene. Not a lot of people will like U-20 entering Blue Lock because that wasn't the point but they're pretty useful at the same time. I just hope that they won't gain as much as the Blue Lock players themselves.


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Nov 24, 2021 6:58 AM
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So we got the mad lad Shidou returning to Blue Lock, a completely changed Kunigami rejoining the main cast, Rin reaching flow and fully embracing his ego to destroy other players, and now the top players at U-20 are joining up. The only thing we're missing is Sae joining Blue Lock to absolutely shit on everyone. I feel like the number of players are about to drop significantly in the next 100 days. Very hyped to see how Blue Lock will change between now and the world cup.
Nov 24, 2021 7:31 AM

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J3_Omega said:
Gardefusilier said:
Ok I legit disappointed with how Ego just absorbed the former U-20 players. Blue lock used to be a zero sum game for high school kids chosen from the entire HS of Japan and sacrificing them outright from the start, now he just accepted them nilly-willy and throw them out to Blue Lock's new advanced stage? Granted they were the former U-20 team but they are not even exposed to the initial harsh Blue Lock environment yet and he just accepted them?

This manga became tame as it goes and I don't like it. Remember at the start of the match with U-20 arc it was clearly said that Blue Lock will 'REPLACE' the U-20 team, not merge.

The U-20 defender at least are worth their salt, but the rest of the players in other position? Nah. Even if they were used to fulfill other roles than Forward the entire goal of Blue Lock is still for looking for that one Forward, and Blue Lock's current setup is still better anyway.
While I agree that the U-20 weren't exposed to the initial Blue Lock environment, you have to consider that these are already world class players who were able to stand toe-to-toe with Blue Lock after their training at Blue Lock. That is to say, while they trained in an environment outside of Blue Lock, they still are at a level equal to that of most Blue Lock players post phase one.

On top of that, you have to also consider that the U-20 is also a part of Japan's youth who weren't given a chance to enter Blue Lock at the time of its conception. Excluding them when they've proven they can contend with the best at Blue Lock and couldn't join because they were already competing at the world level when Blue Lock formed would be wasteful and foolish of Ego, who's already been shown to make these kinds of exceptions for the betterment of Blue Lock by allowing Kunigami to continue in Blue Lock after his loss against Shidou, so it's not unreasonable that he would give world class Japanese players a chance to prove themselves in the environment of Blue Lock at the current phase, since they've proven themselves to be as good as the post phase one players at Blue Lock, as well as being necessary to boost the defense of Blue Lock for the upcoming world stage, and that's ultimately what Ego is doing.

As the number of players decrease while looking for the best striker, he's also looking for the most optimal team in terms of both defense and offense, so excluding U-20 when it's been proven to have an incredible defense would be counterintuitive to creating the most optimal team. As much as I love the defensive line of Aryu, Niko, and Gagamaru, that defense, and the 4-5-1 formation in general, wouldn't be enough against world class players, which was proven by Sae and Shidou crushing them in the second half and Blue Lock needing substitutions and their lead striker playing defense in order to keep up.

All this to say, you're completely in your right to be disappointed that the U-20 was allowed to join Blue Lock, but at the same time, it does make sense in terms of optimizing Blue Lock and would be wasteful to exclude them when they've already proven to be at a level akin to that of post phase one Blue Lock players and with the number of strikers continuing to fall. That, and discarding really interesting and developed characters after one game would be wasteful of the manga's creator in my opinion.
The thing about former U-20 members is, only the defenders that are worth including since they can stand toe and toe with Blue Lock. If it's not for Isagi Sae and Shidou, they lack any offensive capabilities to actually threaten BL team since their original Midfielders and Forwards are sub par in comparison. It's hardly a match imo, and it kinda gives me the impression the rest of the regular from U-20 team better off to act as support rather than to brought into the team.

However If Blue Lock is invented before Aiku joined the U-20 team, I agree with you, I'm sure as hell he will join it since he did say he used to play as strikers. It doesn't explain why other sub-par players in other positions that are not part of Defender quad can join in tho, Blue Lock used to be tight about these things and how easily they can discard someone. These sub-par players I mentioned barely showed anything, not yet exposed to how Blue Lock's environment worked, yet they are already given the chance to go abroad to the advanced phase of Blue Lock, that's one hell of an easy ticket.

I disagree on your last two paragraphs too, what makes Blue Lock special is their focus on offense while maintaining defense to the minimum as it's not the priority, it's done to such extent that Ego briefed them to win by attrition knowing all his players had striker mindset. It's okay to lose 3 goals as long as you can score 4, and this fits well with the overall premise of the manga since they are also still searching for combos and striving for creating the perfect striker. All out offensive team has better environment to allow this to happen and we did see how Isagi & Rin grows out of it. Adding a mix of people from U-20 that already has their own specialized roles will only diminish that magic.
Nov 24, 2021 8:37 AM

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Yeah it is really interesting.....I wonder who'll go to which "environment"
Nov 24, 2021 10:03 AM
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Gardefusilier said:
J3_Omega said:
While I agree that the U-20 weren't exposed to the initial Blue Lock environment, you have to consider that these are already world class players who were able to stand toe-to-toe with Blue Lock after their training at Blue Lock. That is to say, while they trained in an environment outside of Blue Lock, they still are at a level equal to that of most Blue Lock players post phase one.

On top of that, you have to also consider that the U-20 is also a part of Japan's youth who weren't given a chance to enter Blue Lock at the time of its conception. Excluding them when they've proven they can contend with the best at Blue Lock and couldn't join because they were already competing at the world level when Blue Lock formed would be wasteful and foolish of Ego, who's already been shown to make these kinds of exceptions for the betterment of Blue Lock by allowing Kunigami to continue in Blue Lock after his loss against Shidou, so it's not unreasonable that he would give world class Japanese players a chance to prove themselves in the environment of Blue Lock at the current phase, since they've proven themselves to be as good as the post phase one players at Blue Lock, as well as being necessary to boost the defense of Blue Lock for the upcoming world stage, and that's ultimately what Ego is doing.

As the number of players decrease while looking for the best striker, he's also looking for the most optimal team in terms of both defense and offense, so excluding U-20 when it's been proven to have an incredible defense would be counterintuitive to creating the most optimal team. As much as I love the defensive line of Aryu, Niko, and Gagamaru, that defense, and the 4-5-1 formation in general, wouldn't be enough against world class players, which was proven by Sae and Shidou crushing them in the second half and Blue Lock needing substitutions and their lead striker playing defense in order to keep up.

All this to say, you're completely in your right to be disappointed that the U-20 was allowed to join Blue Lock, but at the same time, it does make sense in terms of optimizing Blue Lock and would be wasteful to exclude them when they've already proven to be at a level akin to that of post phase one Blue Lock players and with the number of strikers continuing to fall. That, and discarding really interesting and developed characters after one game would be wasteful of the manga's creator in my opinion.
The thing about former U-20 members is, only the defenders that are worth including since they can stand toe and toe with Blue Lock. If it's not for Isagi Sae and Shidou, they lack any offensive capabilities to actually threaten BL team since their original Midfielders and Forwards are sub par in comparison. It's hardly a match imo, and it kinda gives me the impression the rest of the regular from U-20 team better off to act as support rather than to brought into the team.

However If Blue Lock is invented before Aiku joined the U-20 team, I agree with you, I'm sure as hell he will join it since he did say he used to play as strikers. It doesn't explain why other sub-par players in other positions that are not part of Defender quad can join in tho, Blue Lock used to be tight about these things and how easily they can discard someone. These sub-par players I mentioned barely showed anything, not yet exposed to how Blue Lock's environment worked, yet they are already given the chance to go abroad to the advanced phase of Blue Lock, that's one hell of an easy ticket.

I disagree on your last two paragraphs too, what makes Blue Lock special is their focus on offense while maintaining defense to the minimum as it's not the priority, it's done to such extent that Ego briefed them to win by attrition knowing all his players had striker mindset. It's okay to lose 3 goals as long as you can score 4, and this fits well with the overall premise of the manga since they are also still searching for combos and striving for creating the perfect striker. All out offensive team has better environment to allow this to happen and we did see how Isagi & Rin grows out of it. Adding a mix of people from U-20 that already has their own specialized roles will only diminish that magic.
I think you're right. Being a heavily defense oriented team, U-20 doesn't really have much in the way of striker material. In fact, I believe that, aside from Sendou, we won't see the much from the other two forwards. Sendou and Aiku are really the only ones who have a chance at playing anything besides defense at Blue Lock, but you have to remember that, of the U-20 players joining Blue Lock, the majority of them are defensive. Assuming only the main team of U-20 were invited, which seems to be the case, only Sendou, Kozato, and Chou are the only offensive players who get to join Blue Lock. I can definitely understand not thinking Chou and Kozato deserve to be at Blue Lock, but I do think Sendou held his own well enough during the match to be allowed to join Blue Lock at this phase. So while I agree that two of the ten U-20 players probably shouldn't be at Blue Lock, I still think the majority of U-20 are fine joining Blue Lock, bolstering it's defense while having a new contender for top striker.

As for your last paragraph, while I agree that Blue Lock did focus offense while keeping defense to a minimum, I believe this was more out of necessity than anything, considering the only thing Ego had to work with approaching the game with U-20 were strikers, and very few had defensive qualitites, but now that Ego has access to the U-20 defensive wall, it seems very likely he'll use them to better balance the playstyle of the team, which is why I believe he invited a group of defensive players to an environment comprised of only of strikers. Either that, or he'll have them as substitutions to completely alter the playstyle of Blue Lock and throw off the opposing team, kind of like with Baro and Reo.

Finally, as to your comment about the offensive focus being a better environment to create the perfect striker. I don't completely disagree with notion, as this offensive focus is doing well toward that goal by creating several great strikers, but I believe the perfect striker can't exist in this offensive focused team comprised only of strikers. The way it is now, you have several strikers existing for the sake of their own goal, but in order to create the perfect striker, you would need a team existing for the sake of that strikers goal, and having defensive players like the U-20 wall, who's job it is to keep the other team from scoring while getting the ball back to the striker is a far better team environment for the perfect striker to exist than the one currently being used, and I believe that kind of team is going to start forming as more strikers are discarded during this phase.
Nov 24, 2021 12:20 PM

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I am guessing Isagi is going to Germany I am thinking Rin will as well to compete against Noel.

Bachira is going to Spain. I am guessing Shidou will as well to continue to play with Rin's big bro.

Barou is going to England. I think Chigiri will go here as well.


The defense from the U20's will go to the italian league. I could see Niko going here as well


I have no idea where everyone else will go lmao. But I am pretty sure about the ones I listed.

I am basing my guesses on how Ego described the different leagues, but it could be a big miss.

Nov 25, 2021 5:33 AM

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Looks promising next arc, I want to see Kunigami already.

Also, I wonder who will go to Spain. Looks like they went with the Iniesta, Xavi and co. creativity, so I would say that Bachira at least is going there.
Nov 28, 2021 12:09 AM
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Next arc is going to be crazy, can't wait to read next chapter!!
5/5 chapter!!
Jan 6, 2022 4:11 AM

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"100 days left before the U-20 World Cup Starts" oh great let me set up a timer real quick. Ego do be speaking facts about how training to become a soccer player gets you more strength and sense throughout the way, also interesting how each environment has different characteristics and laws of playing soccer so I'm curious which of these soccer players will go to which environment and looking forward to more depth about how the story goes in the 2nd phase!
Jan 8, 2022 11:19 PM

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So even those U-20 players too will be a part of Blue lock second phase, and damn they have to choose themselves a league, from those top 5 leagues of Europe. Clearly wasn't expecting something like this, but still being a part of a top world league is necessary to get awareness of your standing.
Nov 16, 2022 3:49 PM

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so Phase 2 is that the Blue Lock players will enter the European League eh
May 29, 2023 3:04 AM
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i love isagi ma lil puzzle boy
also love barou ma lil bulldog
love reo ma lil Lamborghini
love nagi ma lil ghosty
love karasu ma fave crow
love eita and oliver ma lil playboys
love chigiri ma lil princess
miss kunigami he gon be emo
Jun 2, 2023 8:43 AM

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I kinda predicted the club system. This means Kunigami will also be joining one of those clubs. Most likely the one that Isagi will join since he'll get the most spotlight here and Kunigami is coming back after a while so we will need to see more of him.

The top 5 clubs also seem to have 1 world-class professional player among them.

Also, the U20 world cup will take place in 100 days. Seems like that will take place after this current major arc ends and maybe a mini-arc after that.

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