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Jan 24, 2021 9:58 AM
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Well that was an okay start. Too much happened in one chapter and the plot is pretty generic but this seems interesting enough and hopefully it will get better. I like the protag, he can avoid really well which is a great ability. The priest and his daughter seems like amusing people too.

Abyway good to have Matsui Yuusei sensei back in Jump.
Jan 24, 2021 10:22 AM
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I liked the chapter a lot. The pacing was a bit off at times but overall i thought it was good. I really like the mc so far too!
Jan 24, 2021 10:58 AM
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It was good but I found the explanations a bit fast sometimes. I don’t have a big feudal Japan knowledge so I was a bit confused. The art is incredible though.
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Jan 24, 2021 11:02 AM
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The only thing I didn’t like about this was the meta narrator. That was cringe as fuck

Otherwise, quite a weird first chapter. Weird interactions, weird characters, weird dialogues.
Also, I’m not sure what’s happened, I kinda got lost tbh. Too many names to remember. So the father betrayed the empire or something and then killed everyone? Did he also die? I don’t know what’s going on lol

Art was fantastic
This can get either horribly bad or exceptionally good.
Let’s see what this story has in store for us
Jan 24, 2021 11:14 AM
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This was super boring.
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Jan 24, 2021 11:23 AM
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Lets see if Matsui can get a 3rd hit!

Pretty fine start, art is great
Jan 24, 2021 12:10 PM
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Hmm, I'm really not feeling this one. I felt the pacing was way too fast to where I lost interest, in addition to getting tonal whiplash with this one, going from a light-hearted affair to real dark stuff at a drop of a hat. Not invested in any of the characters just yet and the MC is average so far, with his evasion tactics not being fully developed. Overall, I don't feel excited about this one. But I hope it gets better though.
Jan 24, 2021 1:01 PM
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Xenocrisi said:
The only thing I didn’t like about this was the meta narrator. That was cringe as fuck


Yeah, that was kinda wierd. The pacing was wierd too. But was really good.

Xenocrisi said:
Otherwise, quite a weird first chapter. Weird interactions, weird characters, weird dialogues.
Also, I’m not sure what’s happened, I kinda got lost tbh. Too many names to remember. So the father betrayed the empire or something and then killed everyone? Did he also die? I don’t know what’s going on lol


To me was impressibly clear despite the many characters that appeared. When the Hojo's clan died you can see the faces from the presentation of each. If you get kinda lost you can read the wikipedia article of Hojo Tokiyuki (the protagonist) or his father's article. They were real people.
Jan 24, 2021 3:02 PM
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Pretty interesting. That betrayal happened out of nowhere.

Expecting good things from AssClass' Author.
--AbiSa--
Jan 24, 2021 3:40 PM

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not bad. this is the first time I'm following a new shounen jump title so I hope I put my money in the right place.
Jan 24, 2021 6:37 PM

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I did not enjoy this one bit. I'll give it a few more chapters tho since the art is pretty nice.
Jan 24, 2021 6:54 PM

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It started very well.
Let's see how Matsui-sensei does this story because I really liked Ansatsu Kyoshitsu too much and it will be interesting to follow his new manga.
Jan 24, 2021 7:11 PM
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While the chapter did sort of feel like a mash of other manga combined into one, I liked art and the main character. I hope that the story is as strong moving forwards as Assassination Classroom's story was.

I am not quite feeling the side characters yet, but I am pretty confident that they will become more interesting and developed soon.

The backstory sort of gives off the vibes of a major epic story, so hopefully that isn't fumbled.

All in all, decent first chapter which has some potential, but first needs to find its own identity to stand out from other manga.

Looking forward to how the aptly named "The Elusive Samurai" will proceed moving forward.
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Jan 24, 2021 8:00 PM

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The Art looks good and that's about it. I hope it gets better.
Jan 24, 2021 9:19 PM
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i feel this will cater better to the Japanese audience more with the themes but its pretty solid outside of some fast pacing at parts
Jan 25, 2021 1:03 AM
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a good start though at some point it felt like the plot moved very ''quickly'' i didnt expect the betrayal because he seemed like a nice guy the art was very great and the mc seems like an interesting character that has room for development im looking forward to the next chapters. I believe this manga will become more popular in japan than internationally due to the many historical references that could be difficulat for the western audience to understand and keep them interested but it could change depending how the story develops
Jan 25, 2021 4:57 AM

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This all seems familiar. Since this is apparently based on real history I'm wondering if I heard it mentioned in another series. This first chapter was whatever, but it was pretty much just set up, so we'll see.
Jan 25, 2021 7:10 AM
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Its most likely fast paced becouse Japan readers know who these characters are from history and they are the main audience.
Jan 25, 2021 7:55 AM

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NoSoyNico said:
Xenocrisi said:
The only thing I didn’t like about this was the meta narrator. That was cringe as fuck


Yeah, that was kinda wierd. The pacing was wierd too. But was really good.

Xenocrisi said:
Otherwise, quite a weird first chapter. Weird interactions, weird characters, weird dialogues.
Also, I’m not sure what’s happened, I kinda got lost tbh. Too many names to remember. So the father betrayed the empire or something and then killed everyone? Did he also die? I don’t know what’s going on lol


To me was impressibly clear despite the many characters that appeared. When the Hojo's clan died you can see the faces from the presentation of each. If you get kinda lost you can read the wikipedia article of Hojo Tokiyuki (the protagonist) or his father's article. They were real people.


Well now I know how this will end... his wikipedia page is really short (jap. ver. also) but if everything is acquired and if author will not go into alternate history it will be kinda sad story.


Manga recommendation:
- Spy x Family (Ch.109/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.198/? - weekly)
- MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.114/? - weekly) | Machi and Oboro (Ch.19/? - biweekly)
- Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.82/? - biweekly)
- Monochrome Days (Ch.11/? - biweekly)
Anime recommendation:
- Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished)
- If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished)
- Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished)
Jan 25, 2021 11:15 AM

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let's get to it time to start reading the man behind ansatsu kyoushitsu new work
Jan 25, 2021 11:25 AM
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Well now I know how this will end... his wikipedia page is really short (jap. ver. also) but if everything is acquired and if author will not go into alternate history it will be kinda sad story.




I think the joke is that it's not the real story from now on, tho
Jan 25, 2021 11:54 AM

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NoSoyNico said:
Nieznajomy43 said:
Well now I know how this will end... his wikipedia page is really short (jap. ver. also) but if everything is acquired and if author will not go into alternate history it will be kinda sad story.




I think the joke is that it's not the real story from now on, tho


I dunno, maybe I missed this joke because for now it seems author is following real history (with adding some shounen elements).
MC also fled to Suwa Yorishige from Shinano Province and also have plan to return to Kamakura in 2 years like real Tokiyuki did.
Probable battle from the beginning is battle from 1335, which he lost.
Manga recommendation:
- Spy x Family (Ch.109/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.198/? - weekly)
- MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.114/? - weekly) | Machi and Oboro (Ch.19/? - biweekly)
- Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.82/? - biweekly)
- Monochrome Days (Ch.11/? - biweekly)
Anime recommendation:
- Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished)
- If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished)
- Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished)
Jan 26, 2021 1:22 AM
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Nieznajomy43 said:
NoSoyNico said:


I think the joke is that it's not the real story from now on, tho


I dunno, maybe I missed this joke because for now it seems author is following real history (with adding some shounen elements).
MC also fled to Suwa Yorishige from Shinano Province and also have plan to return to Kamakura in 2 years like real Tokiyuki did.
Probable battle from the beginning is battle from 1335, which he lost.


The author might make him win against Takauji tho as its a shounen, lets see how he tells this story
Jan 27, 2021 4:59 AM

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Matsui Yuusei is back in the magazine with a historical manga.

Not gonna lie the story moves at a pretty fast pace but nonetheless, it was a pretty decent start. The art is good and the MC is pretty interesting.

I'm looking forward to seeing where this will go!
Jan 27, 2021 6:01 AM

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Honestly, it caught me by surprise; suddenly, I was 7 again watching Rounorin Kenshin for the first time.

I only later realised the characters looked so familiar, it was then I realised it was from the same Mangaka as Assassination. classroom
Jan 27, 2021 11:46 AM
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Art was good, pacing was kinda fast. But looks interesting. Come on guys, this is only the first chapter. Let's wait and see how it progresses.
Jan 30, 2021 1:23 AM
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I like the plot but there are a lot of small panels with small bubbles and MangaPlus doesn't let you zoom in so the reading is not really enjoyable.
Jan 31, 2021 7:36 AM

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Thread fixed so it shows up in the chapter discussions list.

Please always make sure to tick the "chapter/episode discussion" option when you make a new thread like this one. Don't start a poll by yourself or it won't show up as a chapter/episode discussion for people.
Apr 25, 2021 4:49 PM

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How am I just finding this? Glad to see this mangaka back at it again and with something completely different from AC. The premise of this manga seems really intriguing, but I'm skeptical at how he's going to present this since we already know this era of history and how the MC didn't stop the Ashikaga Shogunate from taking power. This will definitely be interesting for sure. I'm really looking forward to this manga particularly for the setting (and the art of course). Most historical mangas I've read or heard about are either about the Edo period and the Meiji Restoration mostly. Some about the Sengoku period and more specifically, the Azuchi-Momoyama period. I haven't really seen any mangas set during the Kamakura or Muromachi period, so this should be cool.
Sep 26, 2021 8:19 AM

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Matsui got a thing for characters that can't be killed easily.

One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron


Jan 21, 2022 5:39 AM

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the same mangaka of Assassination Classroom aka a$$ class .

the same magazine weekly shonen jump aka weekly shonen dump .

the same girly twink main character , just like Nagisa Shiota .

my review of a$$ class : https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=459123

about chapter 1 of this samurai manga :

so the main brat is good at getting away , he can move at the speed of mach 20 just like a certain tentacle alien , lol .

page 15 : er no , a normal human can not hide in a box for 2 days without food , water , going to the toilet .

in page 25 : a ball is rolling . and then in the next page , a head is rolling , lol .

- kid : i dont want to kneel on the hard ground that has many sharp stones .
- soldiers : ok then , you can kneel on this comfortable mat . now stay still so we can chop off your head , lol .

1 problem of this manga is the sudden , extreme change of tone : from a kiddy manga to the berserk manga : murdering kids , r@ping kids , torturing , eating human flesh , playing with corpses , burning houses , etc etc , .....

page 48 : a small , weak 5-years-old kid has the mental strength and physical strength and skills to kill many big , strong adults . yeah right , the mangaka should write something more believe-able next time .


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Nothing appealed, it was just stuff happening, not very interesting.

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