What did you think of this episode?
5Loved it!
55.6%
165
4Liked it!
29.3%
87
3It was OK
10.8%
32
2Disliked it
2.7%
8
1Hated it
1.7%
5
Average 4.3
297 votes
DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- And Abby wins the race, sasuga. I don’t like Sam, he definitely believes women are inferior to men, disgusting. Looking forward to get to know more about Abby |
| The airplane race scenes were quite impressive ! It was nice to see Abigail's past too, she still got severe PTSD though |
| As a true blue Singaporean, this episode was everything I wanted and more. The subtle references to everything Singaporeans love (e.g. bubble tea). Abigail's past, which still harbours lingering toxic memories, and the air race conducted in an accurately depicted Singapore landscape. Definitely wanting to know more about this girl's backstory. With Abby's participation, Laurent and Edamura settle within the stands and does narrative juxtaposition on the quite-possible "match rigging" formula (which is standard for tricksters). For "Paula Dickins" Cynthia and Abby though, trying to get around contact with the princes to conduct their trickery, it's part-and-parcel of similar "business practices". And the air race is on! Trying to override Prince Sam's actions is deadly, but even more deadly is Abby's PTSD which she is mentally overtaken and loses consciousness. It's a good thing that Abby won the preliminaries (setting up Clark vs. Abby), but the sinister plot is acknoweged in good faith. "To die" is to gain her consciousness back, for Abby. Quite a great episode if you ask me. |
KANLen09Jun 11, 2020 9:09 AM
 |
| after watching the subbed episode of ep. 6, I couldn't help myself but skip around through ep.7 Looks like this arc will be more Abby focused now that were are starting to learn of her background. SO I guess she started her childhood happy as a ballet dancer, but was then forced into becoming a child solider with other girls. Now that we know she's of middle eastern descent, I wonder if the two Arab brothers they are trying to take down had anything to do with Abby becoming a child soldier. It would certainly give her motive for revenge. |
| Yet again, another case of Paula being good and everything else putting me in a bored mood. |
animejas said: Yet again, another case of Paula being good and everything else putting me in a bored mood. Then just drop the show. Literally every comment you've made about it is you whining about it being too mediocre for you. Why force yourself to watch it at this point? If you don't like the cast or general tone of this show by this point then you aren't going to like it period. |
GreenEmu said: animejas said: Yet again, another case of Paula being good and everything else putting me in a bored mood. Then just drop the show. Literally every comment you've made about it is you whining about it being too mediocre for you. Why force yourself to watch it at this point? If you don't like the cast or general tone of this show by this point then you aren't going to like it period. I mean, in a way, it is above most of what I'm seeing in general from this year so I can praise that but I just want it to push the boundaries more, feel like it can take more risks. I'm not really a fan of dropping shows unless its absolutely worthless or if its a show that neither me or my friend enjoy watching together (we normally see seasonals together). And it's not like its a 1-2 for me either. It's definitely not bad and there are elements about it I love, but they are punching under their weight currently, that's it. |
animejas said: GreenEmu said: Then just drop the show. Literally every comment you've made about it is you whining about it being too mediocre for you. Why force yourself to watch it at this point? If you don't like the cast or general tone of this show by this point then you aren't going to like it period. I mean, in a way, it is above most of what I'm seeing in general from this year so I can praise that but I just want it to push the boundaries more, feel like it can take more risks. I'm not really a fan of dropping shows unless its absolutely worthless or if its a show that neither me or my friend enjoy watching together (we normally see seasonals together). And it's not like its a 1-2 for me either. It's definitely not bad and there are elements about it I love, but they are punching under their weight currently, that's it. yet every episode discussion you complain about not liking the episode, so why bother watching it? I think the anime has made it pretty clear at this point what it's formula is gonna be story-wise. It's okay not to like an anime,yet you keep making these objective comments like it's the anime's fault for being bad and not just the simple fact that it's not up to your own personal tastes. |
Chickengirl said: animejas said: I mean, in a way, it is above most of what I'm seeing in general from this year so I can praise that but I just want it to push the boundaries more, feel like it can take more risks. I'm not really a fan of dropping shows unless its absolutely worthless or if its a show that neither me or my friend enjoy watching together (we normally see seasonals together). And it's not like its a 1-2 for me either. It's definitely not bad and there are elements about it I love, but they are punching under their weight currently, that's it. yet every episode discussion you complain about not liking the episode, so why bother watching it? I think the anime has made it pretty clear at this point what it's formula is gonna be story-wise. It's okay not to like an anime,yet you keep making these objective comments like it's the anime's fault for being bad and not just the simple fact that it's not up to your own personal tastes. Everything is subjective for what I'm saying, that's why its my opinion. I'm not just blindly spouting random bullshit about it, it just is a shame that I saw a lot of potential in it and keep on seeing potential in it and feel like its underdelivering. I'll just keep the comments to myself then since subjective criticism can't be shown here apparently. There are shows you can ask why I'm watching when I have it rated very low since I'm either seeing it with someone for the most part, or its that its popular so my curiosity is higher to finish it. But with this show, my score is above average of my normal one and I'm seeing it with someone so it's not like I'm looking at it like its utter trash that should never exist. I'm just constantly waiting for them to show more energy or show some more interesting storylines (in my opinion only). That is all. |
| I continue to have mixed feelings here. The quirks are fine and all, but each individual self-contained “heist of the week” feels too formulaic. Formulaic structures are ofc not always subpar, but they can get redundant depending on the characters and directives. I do hope stuff picks up, but right now it’s on the borderline for me, personally. Hope it doesn’t end up like BNA. |
 |
| It seems to me like the younger brother, the pilot, is not aware of his older brother's shenanigans. He seems to genuinely like racing. It was also cool to get glimpses of Abby's past and looks like she was groomed to be a terrorist. Rough... Looking forward to learning more about her, this arc seems to have her in focus. |
| So it's evident now that this arc will also be an Abby arc. Which is nice, I didn't really like her character at the start, because of how hostile and abrasive her personality was. Yet now we know she had a pretty tragic childhood and is suffering from PTSD after being a child soldier and almost killed when she had to fight against enemy soldiers in the middle east? I wonder if we'll learn how she ended up with Laurent though other than her having a death wish. He doesn't seem to be aware of her past since he seemed to not care about her emotional state? I thought that maybe with each case, the baddies they are trying to take down would be more and more evil/criminal to raise the stakes, but I'd argue the Arab brothers aren't as bad as Cassano was. Since Cassano was a mob boss responsible for people getting murdered who crossed him, and people's lives ruined or dying by the drugs he was creating and selling These brothers are kinda boring tbh and seem like an easy target to take down. Sam being your stereotypical super-sexist bad guy which is pretty much how any Arabian/middle Eastern villain is portrayed in media. I just kinda rolled my eyes at the scene with him and Cynthia. Then you have Clark being a pretty boy womanizer. Not saying these kinda men don't exist in real life, but it's just so overdone unimaginative to always use these character tropes for middle eastern villain characters. At least the writers didn't make them tied to some kind of terrorist organization lol. The anime could freshen the story up if one of the future villain targets is a woman, but I doubt it. The visuals with the plane racing was great though. And the color palate. I'm not a fan of the pop/rock/country(?) songs with english lyrics. English might be my native language, but for some reason I never like hearing it in anime all that much. |
giveup-the-ghostJun 12, 2020 8:43 AM
| Abby got PTSD or psychological trauma eh thats why she wants a place to die and always saying if you become a dead weight you will be discarded and stuff |
 Based ឵឵ ឵឵ ឵឵ ឵឵ ឵឵ ឵឵ ឵឵ ឵឵ ឵឵ ឵឵ ឵឵ ឵឵ ឵឵ ឵឵ ឵឵ ឵឵ ឵឵ ឵឵ ឵឵ ឵឵ |
 |
| A glimpse in Abby's past and it was a painful one. |
 |
Not gonna lie, had a good laugh here. Anyway, I'm not really liking the series' approach so far, it feels like they're trying to somehow justify what these dudes are doing by throwing some sad backstories, making the bad guys... worse, and sometimes showing us how good-hearted they are giving "their" money to poor people and their innocent kids. |
puruprendoJun 13, 2020 1:20 PM
| So we get a peek into Abby's past. She appears to be a child solider, and now she's haunted by what she's seen and done. Hoping the relationship between her and Edamura develops, as it appears his encouragement helped her finish the race. Oof, I have a feeling Cynthia is going to get revenge on Sam for his comments. |
| Calling out my girls like that won't get you good, you asshole. Cynthia and Abby. Absolute Waifus. Another awesome episode. Loved it. This anime is so good. |
 |
| I didn't see a mysogynist, just a brave man speaking the truth hehe. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| So, Abby's past, if I'm correct she used to be a member of ISIS whom her parents were part of, she got wounded after attacking a US FOB. |
| I'm guessing Abigail was either forced to join a terrorist group because they kept her parents hostage or they killed her parents and forced her to become a child soldier. She's suffering from terrible PTSD and has survivor's guilt which is why she wants to die. Not gonna lie that part where Abby vomited while piloting grossed me out. Blood, guts, gore are okay but damn vomit makes me squeamish. Sam is an asshole. He claims that he's not a sexist. However, I have a feeling he might be gay. He seems incredibly disgusted with women and how his own brother behaves too. Throw Edamame at him. He might give in after he sees their little druglord. |
| 臭い- |
puruprendo said: Not gonna lie, had a good laugh here. Anyway, I'm not really liking the series' approach so far, it feels like they're trying to somehow justify what these dudes are doing by throwing some sad backstories, making the bad guys... worse, and sometimes showing us how good-hearted they are giving "their" money to poor people and their innocent kids. I mean it's the point of Robin Hood stories. :P and still we need to learn backstories of Laurent and Paula (aka leaders) so maybe that story and motivation will be clearer (most likely at this point you are much further into story so you will know). Overall I think it is "feel good" anime in which bad guys lose and good guys win. also people like those bad guys unfortunately really exist. |
| Manga recommendation: - Spy x Family (Ch.109/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.198/? - weekly) - MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.115/? - weekly) | Machi and Oboro (Ch.20/? - biweekly) - Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.82/? - biweekly) - Monochrome Days (Ch.13/? - biweekly) Anime recommendation: - Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished) - If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished) - Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished) |
Nieznajomy43 said: I mean it's the point of Robin Hood stories. :P and still we need to learn backstories of Laurent and Paula (aka leaders) so maybe that story and motivation will be clearer (most likely at this point you are much further into story so you will know). Overall I think it is "feel good" anime in which bad guys lose and good guys win. also people like those bad guys unfortunately really exist. The problem is, Great Pretender actually had an interesting start, our protagonist shamelessly swindles this old lady and a foreign tourist, and so on, purely for money. But it quickly loses what was its biggest appeal, either by canceling ("the old lady was part of the plan all along!") or our guys saving the single father with a child. This is why I felt a little "cheated". Yeah, it probably was supposed to be a Robin Hood-esque series from the beginning, and a pretty bland and overly-complicated one if you ask me, I just hoped for something greater I guess,. |
puruprendo said: Nieznajomy43 said: I mean it's the point of Robin Hood stories. :P and still we need to learn backstories of Laurent and Paula (aka leaders) so maybe that story and motivation will be clearer (most likely at this point you are much further into story so you will know). Overall I think it is "feel good" anime in which bad guys lose and good guys win. also people like those bad guys unfortunately really exist. The problem is, Great Pretender actually had an interesting start, our protagonist shamelessly swindles this old lady and a foreign tourist, and so on, purely for money. But it quickly loses what was its biggest appeal, either by canceling ("the old lady was part of the plan all along!") or our guys saving the single father with a child. This is why I felt a little "cheated". Yeah, it probably was supposed to be a Robin Hood-esque series from the beginning, and a pretty bland and overly-complicated one if you ask me, I just hoped for something greater I guess,. Oh ok. so you were thinking that this will be anime about "bad guys"? I can understand that, there were times when I felt something similar while watching some series. but I can definitely disagree with anime being bland and it is "overly-complicated" but in good way by this I mean everything connect into logical story. |
| Manga recommendation: - Spy x Family (Ch.109/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.198/? - weekly) - MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.115/? - weekly) | Machi and Oboro (Ch.20/? - biweekly) - Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.82/? - biweekly) - Monochrome Days (Ch.13/? - biweekly) Anime recommendation: - Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished) - If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished) - Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished) |
| Damn, Abby has been through some shit. She's very strong willed, but suicidal? Oh boy I am sure Cynthia is pissed lmao Sam don't hold back. And Clark doesn't seem to be a bad dude he's just having fun. This was a really great episode. |
 |
| Welcome tot he live action remake of GTA - This anime has become a joke, i pretty much am starting to hate it for its senseless plot thats going no where, and endless twists that aren't really that impressive to begin with but they want you to think they are... .. ... ... .. |
| Arab guy is self contradicting but better than nothing I guess. |
 Behold of my awesomeness~ controversial and/or sensitive topics likely devolve into the same repetitive, derogatory, abusive, and harassing comments can no longer be posted. But my feels. |
| “Don’t misunderstand, I’m not sexist against women” proceeds to say they don’t belong in an air race and should stay in the kitchen. |
| Abby’s such a badass. So she obviously has a PTSD for whatever war she was in the past. And that reason for joining a con artists kind of amazed me though it’s sad |
| Better episode than the previous one in the rewatch. Poor Abigail's seemingly gone through some tough shit back in the day when remembering her parents, even envisioning them too while flying early on in the episode. She was even on the verge of crashing when Sam Ibrahim, one of the brothers that the crew are trying to scam was insulting Cynthia and even Abigail and talking about how women should not be competing here and stay doing housework, but Makoto screaming for Abigail (which she heard through the microphone) helped her wake her up and even finish the race with the victory, since she needs to make the final against Sam's brother, Clark Ibrahim. Sam was such a contradicting ass in this episode, telling Cynthia that women should do housework and how air racing is a man's sport, but when Abigail wins, tells Cynthia that she's not a misogynist. Big lol moment there from me. And I continue to love the heart and effort shown by WIT Studio when it comes to appreciating the setting and the little details beyond the case narrative and the cast itself. They did a wonderful job in depicting Singapore with scenic shots while the planes were flying. Even loved seeing Sam's wear be featured in an anime, with him wearing the keffiyeh and the kandora, showing the Middle Eastern background in him nicely. Plus the races themselves were well animated and the Abigail race at the end was really well done with the building of tension and the adrenaline rush provided after once Abigail woke up from her daydreaming/nightmare phase by Makoto with the help of the microphone as when she the wing of her plane was nearly touching sea, I felt nervous too watching that moment even though it was predictable what would happen after. Great stuff. |
animejasDec 5, 2020 3:31 PM
| Well Abby has a bad background ig. Finally, an indirect kiss between Laurent and Edamura.  Looks like BANDAI is sponsoring for the jets.  But I am calling BS on the fact that Edamura's shouting is somehow making Abby regain her shit. Complete BS in fact. He's not even wearing microphones when he does so. GodOfWolves said: Welcome tot he live action remake of GTA - This anime has become a joke, i pretty much am starting to hate it for its senseless plot thats going no where, and endless twists that aren't really that impressive to begin with but they want you to think they are... .. ... ... .. I kinda agree with this. |
 Without change,we end up becoming the very person we hate. I was dead until the moment I met you. I was a powerless corpse pretending to be alive. Living without power, without the ability to change my course, was bound to lead me to a slow death. |
| Despite being pretty naive as drug lord, I found Cassano to be slightly more interesting than these arabic brothers. Something tells me Clark isn't really aware of what his brother is doing tho. Not gonna lie, I was kinda relieved when Sam didn't fall for Cynthia's thot act at first... but then he ended up falling anyways because somehow Abby managed to win the race against a professional despite going through a PTSD episode. |
| Looks like we'll be getting glimpses into Abbie's past now! |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| Wow, already with a politically correct angle and terrorism... |
| I am not a weeb, I simply enjoy 2D girls |
| She won against a veteran? Now that hard to swallow :/ The first arc was good. Looks like besides the main cast everyone is plain idiot. I I were Sam I would've checked her (red hair girl) background before making a deal with her. |
SouthRzVa said: like how did she won. For ones I thought this Sam guy is smart that Abby would lose and they'll have to do some other shit to overcome this. I'm totally disappointedDespite being pretty naive as drug lord, I found Cassano to be slightly more interesting than these arabic brothers. Something tells me Clark isn't really aware of what his brother is doing tho. Not gonna lie, I was kinda relieved when Sam didn't fall for Cynthia's thot act at first... but then he ended up falling anyways because somehow Abby managed to win the race against a professional despite going through a PTSD episode. |
| Laurent & bbt is such a LEWK hahahaha I love Laurent!!!!! The art of Singapore’s landmarks was so good!! What a visual treat! They were probably inspired by Singapore always hosting the F1 races & changed it to this air race. How cool!! L O L @ Clark chasing Abbie around in the pool like a fool lolollllll & I wanted to slap that sexist pig when he spoke to Cynthia that way. Laurent was right, I can’t wait for Cynthia to get back at him. He has angered the wrong gal |
 ꕤ but i’ll probably remember over and over again you were there and everyone else was there — the day we all searched for just one thing ꕤ |
| Some incel people in the anime community still cringe to insist on the "go to the kitchen" as I can see on some comments. Even if you don't really believe it, it's just tiresome and you're not entertaining anyone. :-) That said, very good episode and especially the discussion between Sam and Cynthia. |
 |
| Abbie's flasbacks as a terrorist kicks in hard. She's doing all this dangerous stuff in order to die. Sad stuff. The Prince with his fucking speech about women LOL damn.. |
   “You yourself have to change first, or nothing will change for you!” ' |
| I already thought Sam wouldn't fall for Cynthia's charlatan skills, I can't wait for Laurent and the rest to swindle him especially after his sexist attitude saying things like 'woman belong in the kitchen'. But I guess thats going to be a bit tough seeing Abby is dealing with some PTSD. |
 |
| What a beautiful representation, thanks American Japan xD |
More topics from this board
Poll: » Great Pretender Episode 1 Discussion ( 1 2 3 )moodie - Jun 1, 2020 |
116 |
by brunoyilli
»»
Today, 3:37 AM |
|
Poll: » Great Pretender Episode 23 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )SingleH - Sep 20, 2020 |
253 |
by Smawaru
»»
Yesterday, 2:34 PM |
|
Poll: » Great Pretender Episode 22 Discussion ( 1 2 )uninstallthegame - Sep 20, 2020 |
62 |
by T-PainBeDamned
»»
Jan 29, 5:04 AM |
|
Poll: » Great Pretender Episode 21 Discussionuninstallthegame - Sep 20, 2020 |
37 |
by T-PainBeDamned
»»
Jan 29, 4:38 AM |
|
Poll: » Great Pretender Episode 20 Discussionuninstallthegame - Sep 20, 2020 |
47 |
by T-PainBeDamned
»»
Jan 29, 2:03 AM |