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May 9, 2018 11:17 PM
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I'm pretty sure that rescue still somewhat denies physics and realistically should have at least broken Kazuya's neck... but I was prepared for a solution involving at least some cartoon logic. Overall I am satisfied! At least this is better than my idea, which was them stacking the money underneath and Kazuya doing a Scrooge McDuck dive into it lol

This arc gets a 9/10 from me! It suffered from the usual "problems" of the Kaiji series, but I actually think this arc is my favorite. Kazuya also remains my favorite villain. Maybe the 17-steps Mahjong was slightly more interesting as a game... but if so, One-Poker was a close second.

I will take a break from the Kaiji series now and check out some other Fukumoto stuff, too. But I will be back!
May 10, 2018 4:00 PM
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I'm quite sure this was the last chapter of the previous arc. And yeah, it was definitely obvious that Kazuya wouldn't die here and I'm quite satisfied with the conclusion. The following escape arc doesn't sound as enthralling as playing a game with your life at stake.

While I would love to read more Kaiji I'm not sure how long Fukumoto can keep this series alive. He's getting older and I doubt we'll see the series finishing without Kazuki and Hyoudou playing a (death) game against Kaiji. I hope this escape arc is over quickly and we see Chang,Mario and Kaiji play a team focused game against Hyoudou and his sons. Well anyways I'm taking a break from reading Kaiji for a while and I'll finish this part when it's completely translated (so 2020 ~).
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May 10, 2018 11:43 PM
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I suppose we can confirm that Kazuya had a secret tray of 2's because he did not have a 2 going into the final hand. I did suspect that this was the case, but I had also expected an explanation of it! I suppose in this part, Chang and Mario may ask Kaiji and in turn give us an explanation of what occurred.

Falling that far, head first, it seems like it may have totally denied physics and given Kazuya a pretty unlikely survival. Maybe someone can confirm, but currently it feels as though as good as part 5 was, it didn't really have the most sound logic. From the the button being programmed to work one single time and to be used by holding it down, and the lack of explanation for how the call button worked(which still could have been more of a FKMTKrazy issue than a Kaiji issue). Now we have our boys saving Kazuya with an extremely questionable method. I imagine he had a chance of survival, and with how Kaiji had to make sure he was alive, I suppose it's plausible? Regardless, baby Kazuya is adorable.

I found this arc to have one of the most entertaining games, however I found it to have more holes than I've ever noticed in a Kaiji game before, it ending in a fairly silly but moving resolution too. I loved Kazuya, he is easily the greatest Kaiji villain to date. He had a massive character arc over the last 3 parts and was contrasted and compared with Kaiji in fascinating ways. Chang and Mario were two of the greatest supports we've seen in Kaiji thus far and I'd love to see more of them, and perhaps see their sad reaction to the way Kaiji lives outside of the gamble. Even thematically with this part being one of the most hopeful, I think it was one of the greatest. It was a battle between the privileged mindset of the king who never has to doubt, and the mindset of the slaves who have not a thing to lose. Kazuya disregarded friendship and the good nature of humans for his experience with a life of only bad natured people using him for their own gain, allowing the Asian duo to come into the game, most likely to make Kaiji kill them and prove his hypothesis right. This coming back to bite him and forcing him to see there are some good people in this world, and we're all a mixed bag, that thinking everyone is perfect(kind of like Kaiji in part 1 if you think about it, being easily fooled constantly and developing because of it) is just as flawed as thinking everyone is demonic. The people that he brought back into the game to reveal their evil nature ended up saving him, to ultimately spell out that he is outright wrong.

Regardless of the flaws that are more notable than the other Kaiji parts, I enjoyed this one probably the most. I think the problems it held are enough to hold it back from a perfect 10 because the suspension of belief was notably broken on few occasions and the game did have some contrivances, but overall it's strength of comparing and contrasting the wealthy and the poor in views of meaning, happiness, and mentalities with such a fantastic villain, paired with an engaging game is enough to warrant a 9/10.

I'm fascinated by part 6 being an arc about escaping with the 2.4 billion! That was unexpected. I thought the black suits would be grateful that Kaiji saved Kazuya and potentially that Kazuya would allow them to leave or something. It doesn't sound like that will be the case. I hope Kazuya can join our poor trio as friends, at the very least in the final battles with Kazuki(if that occurs), and Kazutaka. Kazuya was a great blend of sadistic jerk you hate, and a pitiable man whom you wish to see grow as a better and happier person. It was his distrust in others that was his downfall and what else is better than an event that you almost lose your life in to change the way you think?
Feb 28, 2019 10:04 PM
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gfsdfgsdgsdfgs said:
I suppose we can confirm that Kazuya had a secret tray of 2's because he did not have a 2 going into the final hand. I did suspect that this was the case, but I had also expected an explanation of it! I suppose in this part, Chang and Mario may ask Kaiji and in turn give us an explanation of what occurred.


Yeah, I wondered about this as well. But maybe the 2 was simply the card Kazuya swapped for his ace when he first cheated?
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Finally starting part 6 myself. Only 146 chapters stand between me and catching up. This chapter sets up the new conflict and I am interested to see how Kaiji will get out of this one.

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