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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Okay, so the preview lead me to believe that they won't show WWIII, but in this episode, they actually did O_O But it was incredibly condensed to the point where it seems like it was just a tease and they'll show more of it some other time.  But yeah, the problem here is that Okabe experienced Reading Steiner despite not sending any D-mails. Someone else must've changed the divergence, causing some of Okabe's memories to not match with his surroundings. In this episode, we also get to know about Shiina Kagari, Mayuri's adopted daughter in the future. Both Kagari and Suzuha were supposed to be together, but by the looks of it, they got split up. But at their current time, Kagari should be much older, but still present in this timeline. So there's still a chance of finding her.  Gotta say though, the directing style in the Kagari/Suzuha flashback closely resembles the original anime's style (especially with the cicadas chirping). That goes to show that they can choose to direct S;G 0 in a similar style... but it ain't summer in S;G 0 XD But they're jumping quite around with the VN material (not that it's a bad thing). 2/3 of the Stray Sheep chapter was adapted in this episode. |
GoldenDevilGamerMay 2, 2018 9:08 AM
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| Shiina Kagari...interesting. A pretty insightful story coming from Daru. A good info dump episode but definitely felt more like a tease development. Really like the atmosphere of the S;G psychology as usual with the small bits of comedy added in. I still want to see more of Hiyaji's past with Kurisu soon.  |
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| And thus, the most boring character in the novel makes her debut. Hard to say how I feel about the changes in this episode without knowing how exactly they plan to adapt the whole thing. What I can say is that some scenes felt really rushed. |
| sorry I haven't played any visual novels or anything but please tell me, am I assuming correctly that Kagari Shiina is Makise Kurisu (or a sibling of her)? |
Zakew said: sorry I haven't played any visual novels or anything but please tell me, am I assuming correctly that Kagari Shiina is Makise Kurisu (or a sibling of her)? |
| They made quite the plothole already. They showed the war-torn 2010 where (VN spoliers) but it couldn't be any more rushed. It was one of the most impactful and most interesting parts of the novel. When that world showed itself in the VN, that feeling was indescribable. As Okabe explored that world, we learned more and more about how The actual plothole is that Okabe saw that world, and he then just went back to moments after his mental breakdown in front of Maho. That makes zero sense, if he spent any time at all in that world, he would have been in a completely different time and place when he returned. Reading Steiner does not move him in time, it only moves him and the world to a different wordline. Time flows linearly and continually if we only consider Reading Steiner to be a factor, and not Time Leaping. This is even more weird if we consider the fact that I don't see at all how they could explain that no time elapsed when he returned to a worldline without the early war. |
Mandrake10May 2, 2018 10:01 AM
Zakew said: sorry I haven't played any visual novels or anything but please tell me, am I assuming correctly that Kagari Shiina is Makise Kurisu (or a sibling of her)? What I am about to say is not considered a spoiler as it is mentioned in this episode, but Mayuri adopted Kagari in the future so she is Mayuri's daughter. FlamepriesT said: And thus, the most boring character in the novel makes her debut. Hard to say how I feel about the changes in this episode without knowing how exactly they plan to adapt the whole thing. What I can say is that some scenes felt really rushed. Agreed, war scene was rushed and I hope they showcase it later, probably in 2 episodes time, I guess that they want to take their time with later parts of the story. Kagari is not really that bad, she can be annoying sure, but she is bearable. |
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Mohammadalmannai said: Though, it would've been nice to see the entirety of the war scene from the moment its shown. The out-of-nowhere vibe it created is what made things more tense. Teasing it first, then bringing it back up might make it lose some impact. Though I don't want to judge anything until I see how they handle the rest of the series.FlamepriesT said: And thus, the most boring character in the novel makes her debut. Hard to say how I feel about the changes in this episode without knowing how exactly they plan to adapt the whole thing. What I can say is that some scenes felt really rushed. Agreed, war scene was rushed and I hope they showcase it later, probably in 2 episodes time, I guess that they want to take their time with later parts of the story. Kagari is not really that bad, she can be annoying sure, but she is bearable. Also, I think the real problem with Kagari is how much of a wasted character she turned out to be. The anime could fix that, idk. |
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| A really good info heavy episode. Kagari looks way too much like Kurisu for me so something's up with that. |
| This was an interesting episode with a lot of information. The first scene showed the future, the world in chaos. We got our usual Okabe and Amadeus interactions. Is always enjoyable to watch them. The new information that Suzuha talked was intriguing. Mayuri have an daughter wow. The new character is very mysterious. I enjoyed the flasbacks used in the episode. That ending with Okabe finding an old enemy and remembering the past. Veey good scene in terms of psychology. |
PoloMay 2, 2018 10:37 AM
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| A Question to all the visual novel readers does anything happen in the near future cuz otherwise I might die of boredom. |
| Ep felt way too short again,kinda regret that I've picked this up while it's airing. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
No it did not. That was not the future, it was just not explained at all what it actually was, other than hints that it was his Reading Steiner. That scene is about 2 hours in the visual novel, not 2 minutes. |
Mandrake10May 2, 2018 10:26 AM
Skennes said: This was an interesting episode with a lot of information. The first scene showed the future, the world in chaos. We got our usual Okabe and Amadeus interactions. Is always enjoyable to watch them. The new information that Suzuha talked was intriguing. Mayuri have an daughter wow. The new character is very mysterious. I enjoyed the flasbacks used in the episode. That ending with Okabe finding an old enemy and remembering the past. Veey good scene in terms of psychology. Oxford_Lowell said: Good episode. This flashback or flashforward i don't know, future dare is better i thought dare looks fat :/, mayuri is nice mom but mayuri's black hair and kagari's red hair ?? i don't know his father. welp, Kiryuu is Bacccccckkkk, i feel bad again for Okabe xD. I get why you guys are confused lol. Believe it or not, it was his reading steiner, wasn't explained properly in the anime. Kagari is adopted btw. xShinigami3125 said: A Question to all the visual novel readers does anything happen in the near future cuz otherwise I might die of boredom. Yes, it is worth it. It will probably be around the next two or three episodes. I do not want to spoil, but it might end up more impactful that S;G. |
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| that war scene was such a fucking tease, I know they are screwing with us |
| I didn't miss Moeka at all, we don't need her. Kagari seems to be dangerous. |
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Mohammadalmannai said: Skennes said: This was an interesting episode with a lot of information. The first scene showed the future, the world in chaos. We got our usual Okabe and Amadeus interactions. Is always enjoyable to watch them. The new information that Suzuha talked was intriguing. Mayuri have an daughter wow. The new character is very mysterious. I enjoyed the flasbacks used in the episode. That ending with Okabe finding an old enemy and remembering the past. Veey good scene in terms of psychology. Oxford_Lowell said: Good episode. This flashback or flashforward i don't know, future dare is better i thought dare looks fat :/, mayuri is nice mom but mayuri's black hair and kagari's red hair ?? i don't know his father. welp, Kiryuu is Bacccccckkkk, i feel bad again for Okabe xD. I get why you guys are confused lol. Believe it or not, it was his reading steiner, wasn't explained properly in the anime. Kagari is adopted btw. xShinigami3125 said: A Question to all the visual novel readers does anything happen in the near future cuz otherwise I might die of boredom. Yes, it is worth it. It will probably be around the next two or three episodes. I do not want to spoil, but it might end up more impactful that S;G. I seriously doubt that because SG had me hooked from episode 1-22 but SG0 doesn't spark even a fraction of the excitement I felt while watching SG. |
Mandrake10 said: ohhh alright, thanks for the clarification!No it did not. That was not the future, it was just not explained at all what it actually was, other than hints that it was his Reading Steiner. That scene is about 2 hours in the visual novel, not 2 minutes. |
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xShinigami3125 said: I see, thanks you for saying that, makes sense now.Mohammadalmannai said: I get why you guys are confused lol. Believe it or not, it was his reading steiner, wasn't explained properly in the anime. Kagari is adopted btw. Yes, it is worth it. It will probably be around the next two or three episodes. I do not want to spoil, but it might end up more impactful that S;G. I seriously doubt that because SG had me hooked from episode 1-22 but SG0 doesn't spark even a fraction of the excitement I felt while watching SG. |
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Mandrake10 said: They made quite the plothole already. They showed the war-torn 2010 where (VN spoliers) but it couldn't be any more rushed. It was one of the most impactful and most interesting parts of the novel. When that world showed itself in the VN, that feeling was indescribable. As Okabe explored that world, we learned more and more about how The actual plothole is that Okabe saw that world, and he then just went back to moments after his mental breakdown in front of Maho. That makes zero sense, if he spent any time at all in that world, he would have been in a completely different time and place when he returned. Reading Steiner does not move him in time, it only moves him and the world to a different wordline. This is even more weird if we consider the fact that I don't see at all how they could explain that no time elapsed when he returned to a worldline without the early war. Ehh no. If you pay attention you can see that the instance where he experienced WW is different than what he felt in the rooftop. See how he wakes up from the dream BEFORE the opening than AFTER the opening he is back at that rooftop with Maho. They're different instances, you can see throught the episode that Okabe doesn't know anything about the WW, because he hasn't experienced it yet. What actually happens in the rooftop is a minor world shift (as hinted by Okabe not remembering he recalled Amadeus). |
HyperLMay 2, 2018 10:53 AM
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
HyperL said: Ehh no. If you pay attention you can see that the instance where he experienced WW is different than what he felt in the rooftop. See how he wakes up from the dream BEFORE the opening than AFTER the opening he is back at that rooftop with Maho. They're different instances, you can see throught the episode that Okabe doesn't know anything about the WW, because he hasn't experienced it yet. The actually happens in the rooftop is a minor world shift (as hinted by Okabe not remembering he recalled Amadeus). Thanks for clarifying that part, it just felt confusing but thanks for the explanation as I was confused too why did he wake up from his bed the nsuddently he is on the rooftop? lol |
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xShinigami3125 said: A Question to all the visual novel readers does anything happen in the near future cuz otherwise I might die of boredom. Honestly, I don't know why you keep on watching the series. While most people have found the previous episodes very enjoyable, you've reached the point of typing "I might die of boredom". Of course, more things are bound to happen sooner or later. But if you care so little about everything else until things reach that point, in spite of the fact that most characters have already been established in S;G, then I don't think this series is for you. |
xShinigami3125 said: A Question to all the visual novel readers does anything happen in the near future cuz otherwise I might die of boredom. I guess knowing what what's coming kinda helps. I suggest waiting for it to finish and then just binge watch the whole thing later. |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
HyperL said: Mandrake10 said: They made quite the plothole already. They showed the war-torn 2010 where (VN spoliers) but it couldn't be any more rushed. It was one of the most impactful and most interesting parts of the novel. When that world showed itself in the VN, that feeling was indescribable. As Okabe explored that world, we learned more and more about how The actual plothole is that Okabe saw that world, and he then just went back to moments after his mental breakdown in front of Maho. That makes zero sense, if he spent any time at all in that world, he would have been in a completely different time and place when he returned. Reading Steiner does not move him in time, it only moves him and the world to a different wordline. This is even more weird if we consider the fact that I don't see at all how they could explain that no time elapsed when he returned to a worldline without the early war. Ehh no. If you pay attention you can see that the instance where he experienced WW is different than what he felt in the rooftop. See how he wakes up from the dream BEFORE the opening than AFTER the opening he is back at that rooftop with Maho. They're different instances, you can see throught the episode that Okabe doesn't know anything about the WW, because he hasn't experienced it yet. What actually happens in the rooftop is a minor world shift (as hinted by Okabe not remembering he recalled Amadeus). Thank you, it did not occur to me to think about it that way. I still don't see the reason to show that to us now and in this way, but it at least makes sense. |
Mohammadalmannai said: HyperL said: Ehh no. If you pay attention you can see that the instance where he experienced WW is different than what he felt in the rooftop. See how he wakes up from the dream BEFORE the opening than AFTER the opening he is back at that rooftop with Maho. They're different instances, you can see throught the episode that Okabe doesn't know anything about the WW, because he hasn't experienced it yet. The actually happens in the rooftop is a minor world shift (as hinted by Okabe not remembering he recalled Amadeus). Thanks for clarifying that part, it just felt confusing but thanks for the explanation as I was confused too why did he wake up from his bed the nsuddently he is on the rooftop? lol I'll admit that wasn't a very good way to handle things. The episode also cut to Suzuha's flashback with Kagari without any usual flashback transition which also raises an eye brow at the directing, but nothing ground breaking. |
HyperLMay 2, 2018 11:30 AM
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
| Hmm am i the only one thinks the WW3 scene is not the one from Pandora's Box Chapter in VN? Actually i think that was Edit : Seems some people still lost at what's going on so i will strip the spoiler tag since it isn't spoiler just VN exclusive Visualization of the scene at the start of the Stray Sheep Chapter In the VN, we only get some narrative while in the anime we lucky to get some visualization    so i think nothing really out of context, changed drastically, or plothole (at least for now) and i'm happy with this episode so far. solid 8.5/10 for the very least |
7th-ArchangelMay 3, 2018 10:17 AM
FlamepriesT said: xShinigami3125 said: A Question to all the visual novel readers does anything happen in the near future cuz otherwise I might die of boredom. Honestly, I don't know why you keep on watching the series. While most people have found the previous episodes very enjoyable, you've reached the point of typing "I might die of boredom". Of course, more things are bound to happen sooner or later. But if you care so little about everything else until things reach that point, in spite of the fact that most characters have already been established in S;G, then I don't think this series is for you. I knew and I would have droped it already if it wasn't Steins Gate. Because steins gate is my favorite anime of all time so I am gonna watch this show doesn't matter how hard it is for me to stay awake. |
Ulquiorra said: I didn't miss Moeka at all Well it's much better to have her as friend than enemy. I think she is going to be on the right side this time. |
HyperL said: xShinigami3125 said: A Question to all the visual novel readers does anything happen in the near future cuz otherwise I might die of boredom. I guess knowing what what's coming kinda helps. I suggest waiting for it to finish and then just binge watch the whole thing later. I am not sure if I am able to binge this series if it doesn't improve drastically so I rather watch it One a weekly basis to stretch it out a little. |
| Great episode. The opening sequence was pretty hard to watch. War is harsh :( I thought the committee was gonna show up this episode or was the person who was happy that they finally secured Okabe a part of the committee? Interesting bit that someone else able to perform some sort of D-Mail esque action that activated Okabe's Reading Steiner? There's some inconsistency in his memories now I guess. As Amadeus seems to say he called her back after hanging up. Daru acting like a Dad and then boasting about it was funny. XD Shiina Kagari? Mayuro's adopted War Orphan, interesting. I was first thinking along the lines of Kagari being Kurisu herself but if that were true, then that would be a time paradox and then I remembered that Kagari is 22 years at this point while Kurisu was 17(or 19?) so I guess it's safe to rule out Kagari not being Kurisu herself. That said, I'm suspicious that Kagari is the one causing the D-Mail-esque activities that are activating Okabe's Reading Steiner. I'm assuming that ghost rumor refers to Suzuha asking about Kagari in the past post the point where they lost contact with each other. Moeka's back? This spells trouble. |
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7th-Archangel said: Hmm am i the only one thinks the WW3 scene is not the one from Pandora's Box Chapter in VN? Actually i think that was so i think nothing really out of context, changed drastically, or plothole (at least for now) and i'm happy with this episode so far. solid 8.5/10 for the very least That actually makes sense, though if that's the case I believe including a bit of the narrative would've helped pinpoint the purpuse of the scene. I also think they used that scene to |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
| I'm confused!! Did the reading steiner activated or not? And that professor Les who appeared like a ghost. What was that? |
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7th-Archangel said: Hmm am i the only one thinks the WW3 scene is not the one from Pandora's Box Chapter in VN? Actually i think that was so i think nothing really out of context, changed drastically, or plothole (at least for now) and i'm happy with this episode so far. solid 8.5/10 for the very least The strange thing it's |
Stark700 said: Shiina Kagari...interesting. A pretty insightful story coming from Daru. A good info dump episode but definitely felt more like a tease development. Really like the atmosphere of the S;G psychology as usual with the small bits of comedy added in. I still want to see more of Hiyaji's past with Kurisu soon. Top 10 Anime Betrayals....jk LOL |
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celestine_09 said: I do have a question...I am half way through the VN and already knew whats going to happen especially in this episode about looking for Kagari...I do agree that the episode felt a little rushed...when I watched the third episode, I did appreciate the writers putting a little spin to it so there was change.. (especially the Okabe-Maho scene). I am afraid on finishing the VN now as it may ruined the fun for me when I reach a couple of eps for this season. Should I finish the VN to know how it got the the S;G 23B ending from the Anime? Or should I just stop and wait for each episode of SG;0? I am aware that the VN has diff endings but I did some research on how to reach the true ending and I think I'm on my way there... T__T I don't see why you'd want to stop reading it. Everyone who's enjoyed the visual novel has been enjoying the series as well. On top of that, this adaptation isn't exactly a carbon copy of the visual novel and will probably diverge from the source material a whole lot more than the original S;G ever did. And because of the way the routes work, I don't think they can include all the great scenes in this adaptation. So go ahead and enjoy it. |
| "I hear a voice" damn, I forgot how creepy Kagari can be. Also, was that... the moment when Okabe looked at his phone for just a moment... Was it THAT moment? |
*laughs in Dimple*  |
| Something definitely is going on here with the strange visitor... |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
7th-Archangel said: Hmm am i the only one thinks the WW3 scene is not the one from Pandora's Box Chapter in VN? Actually i think that was so i think nothing really out of context, changed drastically, or plothole (at least for now) and i'm happy with this episode so far. solid 8.5/10 for the very least You're probably right. Its either that, or there was a flash foward teaser for the extended scene. Either way, Its not a huge problem. They pretty much had to cross over now if they wanted to adapt the new years scene so I can pretty much understand the rationale behind the way things went this episode. |
TheDarkMGames said: "I hear a voice" damn, I forgot how creepy Kagari can be. Also, was that... the moment when Okabe looked at his phone for just a moment... Was it THAT moment? I don't think so. He would have been surprised if it was actually that. |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
HyperL said: I don't think so. He would have been surprised if it was actually that. |
*laughs in Dimple* |
Kagari kinda looks like Kurisu (with red hair and all). Could it be that she's actually Kurisu and Okabe's daughter ? And Mayuri adopted her after their death xD I didn't see Okabe and Kurisu in that flashback. Only Mayuri and Daru were there when Suzu and Kagari left. And the face Kagari thought of before pointing the gun looked like Okabe's face! Could it be that I'm reading too much into it ? :3 |
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Minar-kyun said: Kagari kinda looks like Kurisu (with red hair and all). Could it be that she's actually Kurisu and Okabe's daughter ? And Mayuri adopted her after their death xD I didn't see Okabe and Kurisu in that flashback. Only Mayuri and Daru were there when Suzu and Kagari left. And the face Kagari thought of before pointing the gun looked like Okabe's face! Could it be that I'm reading too much into it ? :3 I think it looks like someone's face, but not Okabe's |
*laughs in Dimple* |
| Great episode, I want more! |
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