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Sep 5, 2016 8:13 AM
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This one is not bad actually in terms of the vibe early on but the end was...not what I have expected.
Sep 5, 2016 11:27 AM
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I quite enjoyed the animation and the (step)mother? Only managed to watch the raw version so I'd really like to hear what the story was really about.

The sex scenes were pretty good (though the pubic hair during one of the scenes looked like it was drawn on by a 10year old), but still, can't beat a good MILF in any hentai.
Sep 7, 2016 6:53 AM
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Uuuu~ what a transformation from genki moe mom to psycho yandere! It was good to see the gradual change through the time/events. But i mean, didn't have to kill him... And now what will she do with the new son, now that she has made him the new akitoshi and revealed her madness to the husband/dad?

Well she was most lewd with her drooping flabs and breasts and such curving of body (*˘︶˘*) Too bad didn't get to see her in some late stages of pregnancy (๑•́ ε •̀๑)
Sep 16, 2016 11:19 PM
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*Tells her to get an abortion*

*Calls her an old hag*

Mind you after he rapes her and make her adicted to him... What a catch this guy is!

The piece of sh*t got what was coming to him. He deserved that ending...

This is a nice little bit of turnabout on the usual "Hey, I'm some punk, and I'm going to totally make a sex slave out of this fully adult woman" ending that it is plaguing/saturating the Hentai Universe. This is actually more realistic than most mind break stuffs out there. After all, when you reduce a human being to an "animal" insect, stripping her off all morality and rationale, you're left with an apex predator (tying the story with the title: Mantis). People would pull out your innards with their bare hands, than beg for c*ck/c*cks with a silly face. One of the best endings ever!

Arai Kei... I definitely recommend to read the manga for this adaptation, the drawing is top notch and he have more stories that would break your heart, especially Hitoya no Tori but it has a good story at it core, give it a try!
Sep 18, 2016 4:25 AM
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Roy_Focker said:
Arai Kei... I definitely recommend to read the manga for this adaptation, the drawing is top notch and he have more stories that would break your heart, especially Hitoya no Tori but it has a good story at it core, give it a try!


Also enjoyed this (story wise, animation was pretty shit) but I wish it was longer, it would feel more right if it was 1 episode how the son abused the mother and the 2nd episode on how the tides turned because now it felt rushed (though the doujin was fully covered).

About Hitoya no Tori, I just read it and I have no clue what happened at the end, there's some deeper meaning about those birds that I'm missing (the last 3 pages pretty much).
Sep 18, 2016 7:18 PM
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So did she kill him or what?
Sep 20, 2016 2:25 AM
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Roy_Focker said:
*Tells her to get an abortion*

*Calls her an old hag*

Mind you after he rapes her and make her adicted to him... What a catch this guy is!

The piece of sh*t got what was coming to him. He deserved that ending...
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It feels like the character himself was abused by the previous mother and ended up liking it. I wouldn't say rape and murder is justified even if he raped her first.

This hentai makes me feel all sort of emotions and I didn't even jack off cause for some reason, the plot interested me.

In a hentai, what the actual fuck.
Sep 20, 2016 1:45 PM
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Yo... TheBritishBear!

For all we know that situation with his real mom could be like this...

Let's assume that the first marriage was very much like the second. At some point in time, the workaholic father who is also rarely home and barely intimate with his family became impotent, and the first wife kind of took her frustrations out on the son, physically and sexually, his real mother was abusing him and beating the shit out of him for no apparent reason (he mentions she would beat him...) That alone will mess a kid up.

On another scenario comprable as the above but a bit different yet similar to this episode you can say that as a revenge (for the beatings) he raped his mother or coerced her into having sex (the things he did with his step mom) or maybe he got caught having sex with his actual mother, and that arguably things were going the exact same direction he likely didn't bother to defend her when he was the one that raped her.

Let’s say one of the scenarios that I mentioned above is the one that happened either way I think the outcome leading to this episode is the same...

The father finds out about the relationship, ditches the first wife, and then six months later (seriously? who does that?), despite being impotent and despite what happened with his son, gets himself a younger second wife. This tells me that the kind of woman he looks for in a marriage is a babysitter. So, without considering the son's feelings or mental state and simultaneously bringing a new wife into a loveless marriage, he just goes back to business like his marriage is an afterthought. Maybe the son seduced his stepmother out of resentment for what happened to him. Maybe he wanted to feel like he was in control for once. Or maybe he wished that if there was someone he had to call mother and have sex with, it was the kind, meek woman he'd only recently known before he made his move. Either way, I feel like whatever happened with his real mother greatly influenced how this story concluded. Once his stepmom started eagerly initiating sex, I suspect that it reminded him of how his real mom treated him, and that would explain why he chose to run off and live with a friend for a few months instead of either facing the issue head-on or embracing the relationship he started.

There is a lot that is implied and left ambiguous, but we don't know.

But what we know is this... when a kid insults, don’t take responsibility and says that he wants to meet girls just to fuck them (this when he already did the damage to his stepmom) to a mentally unstable person (Oh, by the way because of him), you're pretty much assured he's gonna be a dirty scumbag. Kid's an ass who just took what he thought he wanted without looking at the price tag or the No Refund policy and he paid the price.

I commend the author for deviating from the typical I'm a cum dump/slave/slut to your d*ck master and you can do to me whatever you like even if it means to get an abortion or you getting tired of me and I end up dumped ending…

I agree with you about the plot, Hentai when is done in a right way is a joy to read/watch and kept you immersed in the story...
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Sep 22, 2016 10:15 AM
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Roy_Focker said:
The father finds out about the relationship, ditches the first wife, and then six months later (seriously? who does that?), despite being impotent and despite what happened with his son, gets himself a younger second wife.

This was actually the only thing I disliked plot wise, I mean you catch your son having sex with your wife (whether the son or the wife was the one that made the move doesn't matter for the 2 scenarios you mentioned) then just a few months later you get a new wife and while being impotent and not having sex with her even once (I think somewhere it was mentioned they didn't but maybe I'm mistaken) you work all the time and leave the understandably sexually frustrated wife all day alone at home together with the son who did your previous wife?

Roy_Focker said:
I comment the author for deviating from the typical I'm a cu dump/slave/slut to your d*ck master and you can do to me whatever you like even if it means to get an abortion or you getting tired of me and I end up dumped ending…

Agree though generally when reading doujins I prefer authors like Yukiu Con(seriously love all of his works) who even though he writes stories that include NTR/prostitution/blackmail etc he manages to do it without including much drama and without turning the girls into everything you mentioned (oh god the amount of times I've heard "i'm your personal cumdumpster"...)
Sep 22, 2016 7:22 PM

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Roy_Focker said:
I comment the author for deviating from the typical I'm a cu dump/slave/slut to your d*ck master and you can do to me whatever you like even if it means to get an abortion or you getting tired of me and I end up dumped ending…

Agree though generally when reading doujins I prefer authors like Yukiu Con(seriously love all of his works) who even though he writes stories that include NTR/prostitution/blackmail etc he manages to do it without including much drama and without turning the girls into everything you mentioned (oh god the amount of times I've heard "i'm your personal cumdumpster"...)
Oh sh*t there are some typos better fix that post... Lol!

Yeah, I read and watch all types of hentai genres... before I reply to you I don’t understand why people think that by criticizing and over used trope equals you disliking the genre (I have my fair share of debates in other sites about that) that it not the case I criticize the product/work to have a better product/work for example when COD and Guitar Hero when overboard doing the same sh*t over and over we make a stand and voice our displeasure with the product same here… The thing is like you said when you have the majority of hentai of this type ending with the girl broken or the guy masturbating using his tears as lube it diminish the impact of the story (there is no surprise) therefore when some BASE author deviates from the normal you have to applaud his/her work…
Sep 22, 2016 8:40 PM

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@Roy_Focker

The way I phrased my comment wasn't clear but that's what I was getting at, that Yukiu Con's works arent the usual shit that you know what's going to happen by reading the tags and watching the first 30seconds (as you said mindbreak being the most usual one) because so many do the exact same thing.

I'm not sure if you thought that i criticize the genres myself and I love only vanilla stuff? (which isn't the case, from animations Euphoria is on my top 10 easily and as you know is far from vanilla). There are many ways a rape/blackmail/ntr or whatever plot can play out (as I'm sure you know as you read doujins yourself I think) but when 95% of those turn with just the girl turning into a cock addict with the whole plot being the typical "I'll just rape you so much until you crave for it" it gets boring, even those genres are good if you do it like in "Meikko ga Kuru!" for example (go read it it's really short) or even in NTR ones like "Namadashi Generation", actually even the usual rape->mindbreak ending would be ok if it wasn't so overused as I said earlier.
Sep 22, 2016 9:18 PM

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Nope I didn’t think you were criticizing the genres... What I said is that people assume that we as readers as soon as we comment something negative about a genre = dislike that said genre why is absurd...

And I agree with you about the 95% of most genres ending in the same way...
Sep 26, 2016 3:13 PM
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Ok so this was insanely hot at first but what the actual hell? She just fucking strangles him? The end? Huh. Ok, then.
Oct 16, 2016 10:53 AM
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Roy_Focker said:
*Tells her to get an abortion*

*Calls her an old hag*

Mind you after he rapes her and make her adicted to him... What a catch this guy is!

The piece of sh*t got what was coming to him. He deserved that ending...

This is a nice little bit of turnabout on the usual "Hey, I'm some punk, and I'm going to totally make a sex slave out of this fully adult woman" ending that it is plaguing/saturating the Hentai Universe. This is actually more realistic than most mind break stuffs out there. After all, when you reduce a human being to an "animal" insect, stripping her off all morality and rationale, you're left with an apex predator (tying the story with the title: Mantis). People would pull out your innards with their bare hands, than beg for c*ck/c*cks with a silly face. One of the best endings ever!

Arai Kei... I definitely recommend to read the manga for this adaptation, the drawing is top notch and he have more stories that would break your heart, especially Hitoya no Tori but it has a good story at it core, give it a try!
Nah the story writer can go fuck himself
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Well, to each his own.
Nov 23, 2016 4:50 PM

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I like the ending, but plotwise, the idea of that brat still living with his father, despite having being caught before, just puzzles me. It kills my willing suspension of disbelief.


I can't believe I said that about a hentai, for Christ sake.
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5,5/10

Da actual fuq happened. Well, this is unusual. Very dark moments at the end, but its something new for sure. Has more elemetns than a real hentai, so thats good. Not sure i liked it though, cause this was definitely not what i expected.
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Probably the best I have watched in a really long while, just a little bit bellow Toshi Densetsu.
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The ending wasn't at my liking (my opinion)
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The type of NTR ending I can get behind. Guy was typical NTR asshole and had the the nerve to call her an "old hag", she was gorgeous. Ending surprised me since the video I watch put both episodes together (didn't even know it was two 10 min splits) but I'll take it over her being broken by NTR asshole dominating her for the rest of her life.

Before watching this I thought the animation was shit and Queen Bee like, low and behold looking more into it was actually Queen Bee. Still the character design of the main female was so good I overlook the stiff sex scenes somewhat.

Sad a better hentai studio didn't animate this, really loved the main female design, oh well.
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Shit went from 0-100 real quick. But hey I kinda think the young lad was being kind of a dick and he really did violate Chihiro's body and her emotions. He was acting like some typical incel NTR asshat.

The animation was good. Not the best, but satisfactory.
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Well, even though what happened to Akihiro was an overkill, he deserved it. You know what they say, you reap what you sow.

Honestly, one of the best NTR's I have seen and that is because of obvious reasons. But the ending still gives me shivers.
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The type of NTR ending I can get behind. Guy was typical NTR asshole and had the the nerve to call her an "old hag", she was gorgeous. Ending surprised me since the video I watch put both episodes together (didn't even know it was two 10 min splits) but I'll take it over her being broken by NTR asshole dominating her for the rest of her life.

Before watching this I thought the animation was shit and Queen Bee like, low and behold looking more into it was actually Queen Bee. Still the character design of the main female was so good I overlook the stiff sex scenes somewhat.

Sad a better hentai studio didn't animate this, really loved the main female design, oh well.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I love it when the NTR b*stards get their comeuppance. But still it's a shame to see what happened to the mother.
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Roy_Focker said:
*Tells her to get an abortion*

*Calls her an old hag*

Mind you after he rapes her and make her adicted to him... What a catch this guy is!

The piece of sh*t got what was coming to him. He deserved that ending...

This is a nice little bit of turnabout on the usual "Hey, I'm some punk, and I'm going to totally make a sex slave out of this fully adult woman" ending that it is plaguing/saturating the Hentai Universe. This is actually more realistic than most mind break stuffs out there. After all, when you reduce a human being to an "animal" insect, stripping her off all morality and rationale, you're left with an apex predator (tying the story with the title: Mantis). People would pull out your innards with their bare hands, than beg for c*ck/c*cks with a silly face. One of the best endings ever!

Arai Kei... I definitely recommend to read the manga for this adaptation, the drawing is top notch and he have more stories that would break your heart, especially Hitoya no Tori but it has a good story at it core, give it a try!
Agreed bro, the jerk got what he deserved. And although it's a shame to see what happened to the mother, I would love to see more of these NTR where the b*stards get their comeuppance.
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conclusion dont r@pe your step mother weebs
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I'm not one to condone cold-blooded murder but MC-kun walked right into that one and he was seriously asking for it. Even a stable, sane woman will no doubt have a terrible reaction to being told, by her young lover no less, that she's just an old woman that drags him down, nothing but a burden..... even in RL that's nothing going to end well for the guy. Saying those things to a clearly psychotic woman though? might as well be kicking the chair out from under you if you know what I mean.

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Anyway I liked how the cliché "I'M GOING TO TRAIN HER SEXUALLY AND TURN HER INTO MY SLAVE" completely backfired on MC-kun which is what would happen in RL too. Any woman that is susceptible to that had to be profoundly messed up to begin with, far beyond what some punk teenager could handle. The increasingly aggressive sexual behavior of the MILF was also amusing. This episode/story is more like a satire of the genre than an addition to it. The sex scenes were below avg and the animation was inconsistent, to say the least. The art style was all over the place with quality jumping around during the episode. Even the editing was kind of crap and you have to mess up really bad for crappy editing to be noticeable.

Honestly, I really liked it for the plot subversions & subtle comedic undertones [MC-kun's school pal was a pettanko genki gyaru , Lol. I see what you did there, sensei]. Unfortunately people don't go to H-anime for clever writing or funny deconstructions so 4/10 is all it gets.

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