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What do you think impacted the rating of this anime negatively after episode 1 the most?

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Most negative impact on rating
Mecha fans disappointed it's not mecha enough
1.7%
2
Non-mecha fans disappointed it has a mecha element
22.9%
27
Those who saw similarities to the introduction to a show they disliked and expect this to go the same way
9.3%
11
Watchers who expect a bombastic hook in the very first episode, or was disappointed it needs 2 episodes to begin proper (cliffhanger disappointment)
25.4%
30
Lack of faith due to other things (studio/ staff)
6.8%
8
Plot hole hunters (how did they survive that fall)
33.9%
40
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Oct 6, 2015 4:41 AM
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I'm curious how this became lower rated than for example Asterisk and Cavalry after the first episode aired, what do you think?

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Oct 6, 2015 4:43 AM
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Probably the fact that only one episode has aired and it wasn't that impressive, plus the majority of people don't rate airing.

Might also be bitches whining about mecha already.
Oct 6, 2015 4:50 AM
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Jerkhov said:
Might also be bitches whining about mecha already.

This one actually boggles my mind. Did a large percentage of users had some kind of bad experience with mecha in the past to blindly hate on everything mecha-related?
Oct 6, 2015 4:53 AM
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That plot hole though! Also some people expected better animation for some reason. They had their hopes up too high.
Oct 6, 2015 4:56 AM
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phantom346 said:
That plot hole though!


It's not really, the gem in Sogo's pocket (Felia) threw him 200 metres in the air not five minutes before that fall, so why wouldn't it also cushion their fall. It just got glossed over which I can understand some people taking offense to.
Oct 6, 2015 4:57 AM
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Red_Tuesday said:
phantom346 said:
That plot hole though!


It's not really, the gem in Sogo's pocket (Felia) threw him 200 metres in the air not five minutes before that fall, so why wouldn't it also cushion their fall. It just got glossed over which I can understand some people taking offense to.

You're guessing, stop guessing. If we keep guessing, plot holes wouldn't be a thing!
Oct 6, 2015 5:00 AM
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I think it's more to do with his hover board/scooter. We don't know how the world's technology operates, the hover board probably had a safety mechanism that would cushion high falls, or at the very least the MC controlled it in such a way that cushioned their fall.
Oct 6, 2015 6:39 AM
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I thought it was pretty obvious that they survived that fall due to the anti-gravity scooter they were riding on. If that thing can suddenly propel itself in the air it can easily slow down its fall as well. Just because it wasn't explicitly said doesn't mean its suddenly a plot hole.

What bothered me a bit more was the race scene before that. How could those guys possibly think that ramming a small scooter with that large car would end well? That scooter should have crashed the moment it touched the pipe. The show itself seems pretty lighthearted so it's slightly more acceptable, but that was still too much.

As for the rating, probably a combination of factors. I've heard some people say the premise is somewhat overdone (i.e. boy finds special girl). It's most likely too early to start looking at the score. I'm waiting a bit before I give an actual score.
Oct 6, 2015 6:51 AM
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The events were just way too forced and unnatural that it wasn't interesting to watch.
Oct 6, 2015 6:52 AM

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maybe it just wasn't very good
Oct 6, 2015 6:53 AM

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Only idiots rate a show after one episode, I would expect this to rate higher if it progresses as we hope.
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Oct 6, 2015 6:54 AM

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mayukachan said:
maybe it just wasn't very good


yeah but is was, if you want average go and watch Heavy Object
Oct 6, 2015 7:16 AM

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Crashmatt said:
Only idiots rate an show after one episode, I would expect this to rate higher if it progresses as we hope.


Why can't I rate something based on my first impressions of a show ? If it's a good first impression it gets a fair rating and vice versa. My rating is based on what I have watched and how much I enjoyed it, whether is just the first episode, or the entire show.

I think this was fine, rated 7/10 for now.
Oct 6, 2015 7:18 AM
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Most people don't rate things after 1 episode. But oh well the rating will increase later unless they somehow ruin the series after a nice start.
Oct 6, 2015 7:19 AM

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Lack of faith due to other things (studio/ staff)+how they survived the fall
Oct 6, 2015 7:19 AM

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I had a good first impression, but have not rated the show yet.

I'm sure many others are also withholding a rating until more episodes have aired.
Oct 6, 2015 7:22 AM

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Crashmatt said:
mayukachan said:
maybe it just wasn't very good


yeah but is was, if you want average go and watch Heavy Object

i dont want to because heavy object seems like its heavily boring. ]
so far comet lucifer feels like a 6/10 but has potential.
Oct 6, 2015 7:55 AM

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I loved the first but I just want to know how the fuck did they survive from that hole? It's not like I care about it a lot or something so if someone rated this with a 4 or 5 just for that thing, he/she is stupid, 100% sure about it.
Oct 6, 2015 7:57 AM
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Idk, was nothing special to me albeit not that bad either
Oct 6, 2015 8:02 AM

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I don't understand rating a show before it finished airing mentality overall but to rate a show after a first episode is dumb, it's completely based on some weird first impressions as it's hard to judge a show on anything else. Who dafaq cares?
Oct 6, 2015 8:29 AM
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That plot hole is bullshit, I must agree, but I'll let it slide, I don't think that is the reason.
Maybe because this anime's intrudoction is so generic in the sense of a person getting lucky and suddenly out of nowhere get an access to an amazing mech. It has been overused, it's almost a plauge in the mecha genre. Heck, I can count with only my fingers the ones that didn't use this kind of intrudoction.
It's a simple 101 mecha opening, and I personally was annoyed by how wildspread it is, when it has no reasonably good plot meaning other than quickly showing action in the first episode.
I personally prefer an amazing mecha rider that wins with wit and strategy the bigger foes, (aldonoha zero did this well).
I'm never rating an anime before I finish it, but for the ones who do this thing might have been the trigger.
Oct 6, 2015 8:37 AM

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That plot hole is bullshit, I must agree, but I'll let it slide, I don't think that is the reason.

Like people have mentioned here and in episode 1 discussion, that is not a plothole. Most likely the fall was cushioned due to the assistance of the hover scooter they were on.
Oct 6, 2015 9:29 AM

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People who rate an anime after one episode I literally have no respect towards.
How long until season 3 of Spice and Wolf?
The World May Never Know.
Oct 6, 2015 10:05 AM

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I rate after one episode how I feel about it at first and then I change the rating as the show progresses. For Charlotte, it started out as an 8 for me before rising to 9 and dropping to a mere 7. They are people who rate even before the show airs, and I think those are the true idiots.
Oct 6, 2015 10:09 AM

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plot.........................
"I lost all of what you could call feelings of love. They weren't sealed, so they can't be released. They weren't broken, so they can't be fixed. That which is lost, cannot be recovered." Shiba Tatsuya
"There are no regrets. If one can be proud of one's life, one should not wish for another chance." Saber
"No matter what happens, no matter how crazy things get, I'll always try to restore balance." Korra
"It's madness to let others take what's yours and accept it blindly." Baatar Jr
"Instinct is a lie, told by a fearful body, hoping to be wrong." Zaheer
"Partner in crime, partner in time" Chloe Price and Max Caulfield
Oct 6, 2015 4:33 PM

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It makes zero sense to rate an anime for just one episode, about this episode well It seemed like nothing happened, will apply the 3 episode rule.
Oct 6, 2015 4:36 PM

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It was just meh and completely confusing at the end. Hence the low rating. I get that vibe.
Oct 6, 2015 5:55 PM
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Boring and plot holes.
Oct 6, 2015 6:15 PM

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I'm gonna try to list some pros and cons so far in the first episode:

Pros:
• No lazy infodumping. We learn about the world/city and how people live in through a simple scene where the protagonist goes around on his "Quicker Board".
• Same goes for the current antagonists. We're learning about them through their actions instead of 5 minute dialogues about what their goals are.

Cons:
• The characters have no will and stuff happens because the plot said so.
1. A crystal falls from the sky directly on the protagonists' palm and he just goes back without questioning it.
2. While riding his board thingy he suddenly gets catapulted because that's what the crystal wanted and he just had to land on his friend.
3. Some pipe explodes and they fall into a cave right next to where some mecha spawning chick lies that the antagonists are searching for.
• We know little to nothing about the characters. Proper introduction is needed or otherwise it's hard to like a show.

Also let's not forget that the soldier just decided to charge at them instead of questioning what they're doing there or ask them to hand over the girl.
Oct 6, 2015 6:17 PM

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SukiMikasa said:
People who rate an anime after one episode I literally have no respect towards.


Up to you. I rate after one episode as a way to express first impression and changes my rating as the show progresses. It doesn't hurt and don't bother to look at the score before it's finished if you don't agree with early scoring. Thanks
Oct 7, 2015 4:20 AM
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I don't rate series at all. It's a useless thing to do. If you want to express your opinion,do so with words,not an arbitrary number.

I get why people didn't think the first episode was very good though.
Standard shounen protagonist,shitty animation,tropes everywhere.
I will wait until it's done airing to see if its any good.
Oct 7, 2015 4:26 AM

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I rate series after the first episode and you can't do nothing about it. If its turning good then the rating will raise and vice versa, there is no reason why you can't rate after the first episode. You can hold your rating all you want but saying that people who rate early is stupid is retarded.
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Oct 7, 2015 4:41 AM

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8outof10itsok said:

Standard shounen protagonist,shitty animation,tropes everywhere.

OK, lol.
Oct 7, 2015 4:43 AM

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Oct 7, 2015 4:57 AM
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KaiserNazrin said:
I rate series after the first episode and you can't do nothing about it. If its turning good then the rating will raise and vice versa, there is no reason why you can't rate after the first episode. You can hold your rating all you want but saying that people who rate early is stupid is retarded.
I think rating after one episode is fine, assuming that you're actually going to keep watching it. If you update your score with each new episode, then there's nothing wrong with doing it from the start

What I can't understand though is people rating something after the first episode and then dropping it at the same time. Then you literally judge the entire anime by one episode alone with zero intentions of keeping up with its progression, and that just doesn't make a whole lot of sense
Oct 7, 2015 5:10 AM

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HaXXspetten said:
KaiserNazrin said:
I rate series after the first episode and you can't do nothing about it. If its turning good then the rating will raise and vice versa, there is no reason why you can't rate after the first episode. You can hold your rating all you want but saying that people who rate early is stupid is retarded.
I think rating after one episode is fine, assuming that you're actually going to keep watching it. If you update your score with each new episode, then there's nothing wrong with doing it from the start

What I can't understand though is people rating something after the first episode and then dropping it at the same time. Then you literally judge the entire anime by one episode alone with zero intentions of keeping up with its progression, and that just doesn't make a whole lot of sense


IIRC the system would only count your rating after you watch certain amounts of episode so I don't think it matters whatever score the droppers rated the series with.


Oct 7, 2015 5:28 AM
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KaiserNazrin said:
HaXXspetten said:
I think rating after one episode is fine, assuming that you're actually going to keep watching it. If you update your score with each new episode, then there's nothing wrong with doing it from the start

What I can't understand though is people rating something after the first episode and then dropping it at the same time. Then you literally judge the entire anime by one episode alone with zero intentions of keeping up with its progression, and that just doesn't make a whole lot of sense


IIRC the system would only count your rating after you watch certain amounts of episode so I don't think it matters whatever score the droppers rated the series with.
Yeah it makes no difference for the overall MAL score due to the 1/5 rule. I just find it pretty stupid from an individual standpoint
Oct 7, 2015 5:38 AM

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HaXXspetten said:
KaiserNazrin said:


IIRC the system would only count your rating after you watch certain amounts of episode so I don't think it matters whatever score the droppers rated the series with.
Yeah it makes no difference for the overall MAL score due to the 1/5 rule. I just find it pretty stupid from an individual standpoint

can I ask why is it called "1/5"?
Oct 7, 2015 5:46 AM
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Xenocrisi said:
HaXXspetten said:
Yeah it makes no difference for the overall MAL score due to the 1/5 rule. I just find it pretty stupid from an individual standpoint

can I ask why is it called "1/5"?
Because that's the cutoff point?

Only scores where a user has completed at least 1/5 (20%) of a finished anime/manga are calculated

Well technically it's 1/5.2 (~19.23%) but it's more or less the same
Oct 7, 2015 10:24 AM

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HaXXspetten said:
What I can't understand though is people rating something after the first episode and then dropping it at the same time. Then you literally judge the entire anime by one episode alone with zero intentions of keeping up with its progression, and that just doesn't make a whole lot of sense


It can just mean that the first episode was worth this rating, not necessarily the entire anime (at least that's how I see it). Looking at the list you can see how many episodes people have watched anyway, and as said before it doesn't even count in the rating in the end so...
Oct 7, 2015 10:36 PM
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I'll see this through.But the main reason is that the show makes itself unnecessarily difficult.

1. why not just make him actually find the magic stone,and make the evil guys go there cause they detected a reading?The stone falling from the sky makes the villains presence forced.

2.The banging by
the car come on.Just sticking with only chasing would be fine,The point is still there.

3.why didn't they just let the boy get knocked over just cause of the giant holes made by the villains
in the city.The whole car ramming thing was stupid.

4.why not let the bad guy just ask them for the girl.Then when they grab him then make the robot show up?just attacking the kids makes you raise eyebrows.

See.I can come up with a better episode 1,than the paid writer,while keeping with his intention.

wtf author of this series.
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Oct 7, 2015 10:41 PM

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We'll have to see it to the end.

But goddamn, I feel like this will be another Captain Earth...
Oct 7, 2015 11:02 PM

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i usually see people complain about anime that have none sequential or ordered story telling, they say its confusing or incoherent and its just style over substance, this kind of story telling is prone to the criticism of plot holes, like they expect everything to be spoon-feed of information in just 1 episode

the recent Concrete Revolutio episode 1 is proof of this

EDIT:

damn this is about a specific anime, i thought it was a thread on the general anime board lol
Oct 7, 2015 11:57 PM
The Destroyer.

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Overused cliches.
Oct 8, 2015 6:14 AM

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Homura_ said:
Overused cliches.

You didn't watch Rakudai and Gakusen yet
Oct 8, 2015 6:30 AM

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Its because everyone on this site is a whiny bitch
Oct 8, 2015 7:54 AM

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MFK said:
Its because everyone on this site is a whiny bitch

Only 80%

The rest just lurk.
Oct 8, 2015 12:42 PM

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fredchickens said:
CLBGM said:

Only idiots writing something like this.
I rate after 1st episode. After 2nd. After 3rd [...] After last, and so? Pretty normal thing to do.
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I'm gonna try to list some pros and cons so far in the first episode:

Pros:
• No lazy infodumping. We learn about the world/city and how people live in through a simple scene where the protagonist goes around on his "Quicker Board".
• Same goes for the current antagonists. We're learning about them through their actions instead of 5 minute dialogues about what their goals are.

Cons:
• The characters have no will and stuff happens because the plot said so.
1. A crystal falls from the sky directly on the protagonists' palm and he just goes back without questioning it.
2. While riding his board thingy he suddenly gets catapulted because that's what the crystal wanted and he just had to land on his friend.
3. Some pipe explodes and they fall into a cave right next to where some mecha spawning chick lies that the antagonists are searching for.
• We know little to nothing about the characters. Proper introduction is needed or otherwise it's hard to like a show.

Also let's not forget that the soldier just decided to charge at them instead of questioning what they're doing there or ask them to hand over the girl.



Pretty much this.
Oct 8, 2015 3:14 PM

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fredchickens said:

Only idiots writing something like this.
I rate after 1st episode. After 2nd. After 3rd [...] After last, and so? Pretty normal thing to do.


That's just my opinion you don't have to agree with it. I don't score any series currently airing until I have finished watching it. Im amazed people have can be bothered scoring shows every week. Why are people so desperate to rate and review things before they are finished?
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