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Jun 27, 2010 4:51 PM
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Was this series intended to function as a defense of otaku? To make them look good? Because I thought it made them look like self-absorbed jerks.

When the first episode opens, the protagonist has a quasi-girlfriend he seems to see a few times a week; we see them playing tennis, for instance. A while after the protagonist is turned into an otaku, we see her again, speaking to him in a café. She complains that he’s gotten a little fat, smells bad, and that she hasn’t seen him lately.

Even if we say that she shouldn’t be too hung-up on his appearance if she loves him (which I think is being too generous; who can honestly say they wouldn‘t mind a fit and athletic quasi-lover puffing up? Not to mention that it implies his lifestyle is becoming unhealthy), there’s no excuse for him to smell bad. Surely he knew ahead of time he was to meet here at the café, yet he couldn’t mange to bathe beforehand? Whether he failed to think of it or just didn’t care, the lack of respect is astonishing.

Yet the most serious of the three is the last, which segues to the end of the story. Even after hearing her complaints, he continues to do otaku stuff and only is inspired to call her after Minmay from the Macross movie reminds him of her (and I will say that being reminded of her by an idealized fictional representation is actually kind of sweet), only for another guy to answer the phone. He’s been dumped.

The thing is, I can’t tell whether the story admits that this is entirely his fault. Of course she got another guy after he ignored her so diligently. What did he expect? This isn’t about watching cartoons, or building plastic models, or dressing up in costumes, it’s about time; he spent all his time on himself, having fun, leaving her alone. There’s no reason why he couldn’t have spent some time with his new otaku friends while continuing to meet her needs. But his response is to proclaim his dedication to being an otaku, if memory serves (sorry; it‘s been a while since I saw this show). Isn’t that just making the problem worse?

This seems to be some sort of late ‘80’s (or “first generation“) otaku thing, where their concept of themselves was that they dedicated their lives and all their passion to the appreciation of their favored art and in the case of the protagonist and the founders of Gainax, moving into creating it themselves, which is why they miss out on conventional pleasures such as love. To me this reeks of arrogant self-absorption and seems more like an excuse for social ineptitude, it being important to note that otaku who became creators are a very tiny minority, even if you count non-professionals like those who create drawings or videos based on their favorite anime.

The strangeness continues in the second episode. The protagonist’s former quasi-girlfriend shows up as the smirking wife of the evil businessman trying to run the little otaku company out of business. Shed has no real effect on the narrative. Why is she here? Why is she depicted as holding a grudge against the protagonist, revealing in his apparent defeat? It smells rather like truly shocking self-absorption; “If she dumped me, she must be deliberately trying to cause me pain. She’s evil,” “I’m important enough for her to seek revenge against me years after we broke up.”

Then there’s the woman who works at his company and saves it through her artistic skills, creating a popular new character that drives sales to save the company. She is very clearly attracted to the protagonist, but the last we see of her is in a montage, drawing, the finale instead being given over to rather megalomaniacal fantasies of turning the whole world into otaku. Did the protagonist ignore her feelings as he ignored those of his last lady friend?

This work certainly gives off the air of a homage to otaku, yet the main character and symbolic representative of otaku is selfish and callous to the feelings of those around him, and so I am left baffled. Could the creators just be terribly out of touch?
Jun 30, 2010 7:13 PM
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This anime, is just a parody of every otaku that exist in Japan. In the animated version, you can see an optimistic style of life, but in the live-action version you see the REAL thing.

In Japan, being an otaku, means that you have no life and you are kinda disguisting for society. But outside Japan, otaku is just people that likes anime/manga stuff.

I found the live-action segments hilarious, 'cause many of the people interviewed are part of the GAINAX staff, and they exagerate the behavior of an actual otaku. So you can say that GAINAX is full of otaku, that hate other otakus...or something like that.
Sep 14, 2014 5:08 PM
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I thought is was almost really sad....The characters start off as otaku nobodies that obsess over their hobbies and all of a sudden they become successful business men. It seems very unlikely that this would happen with any Otaku and it almost seems like its mocking them....that they will never amount to anything....thats the vibe I got from Otaku no Video
Jun 8, 2017 9:59 PM
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LaOveja said:
This anime, is just a parody of every otaku that exist in Japan. In the animated version, you can see an optimistic style of life, but in the live-action version you see the REAL thing.

In Japan, being an otaku, means that you have no life and you are kinda disguisting for society. But outside Japan, otaku is just people that likes anime/manga stuff.

I found the live-action segments hilarious, 'cause many of the people interviewed are part of the GAINAX staff, and they exagerate the behavior of an actual otaku. So you can say that GAINAX is full of otaku, that hate other otakus...or something like that.


Wow! That explains a lot for me. I was confused weather or not they were interviewing seriously or not but that helps me understand a bit better lol. My copy of the DVD came with translator notes but I didn't really see that written in it. Along with what SF stands for
Seriously, what is an SF circle? i know what a circle is but what does SF stand for? (No not Sailor Fuku)
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Jun 8, 2017 10:10 PM
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DanaRena said:
Seriously, what is an SF circle? i know what a circle is but what does SF stand for? (No not Sailor Fuku)

Pretty sure it's Science Fiction.
Jun 9, 2017 6:21 PM
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Fronzel said:
DanaRena said:
Seriously, what is an SF circle? i know what a circle is but what does SF stand for? (No not Sailor Fuku)

Pretty sure it's Science Fiction.


That's what I thought but I wasn't sure...espically since most of the topics didn't seem like science fiction...
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Jun 9, 2017 6:26 PM
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DanaRena said:
Fronzel said:

Pretty sure it's Science Fiction.


That's what I thought but I wasn't sure...espically since most of the topics didn't seem like science fiction...

In which case it could be "Speculative Fiction" which is a fancy name for what they used to call "weird fiction" which included proto-sci-fi stuff like H.P. Lovecraft's work.
Jun 11, 2017 10:23 PM
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Fronzel said:
DanaRena said:


That's what I thought but I wasn't sure...espically since most of the topics didn't seem like science fiction...

In which case it could be "Speculative Fiction" which is a fancy name for what they used to call "weird fiction" which included proto-sci-fi stuff like H.P. Lovecraft's work.


Oh! That's really interesting! I like that answer. Thank you for your help! :D
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Jul 17, 2017 3:59 PM
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I think, much like a few posters within this thread, the use of contrast illustrates the idea lifestyle vs the reality, in which the animated version is the ideal lifestyle with regard to being an otaku whereas in actuality the following is much more despairing in a way
Mar 3, 2019 7:03 PM

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I don't really agree with the assesment that this is meant to parody and shame otakus, since this is partially about the creation of Gainax and they came out of otaku culture themselves. Also I would argue that the interviews (when they are real) are only negative if you take them that way. I think to understand this piece you have to understand that early Gainax were kind of trolls that didn't take anything seriously.
Mar 4, 2019 10:56 AM

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PostModernAutist said:
I think, much like a few posters within this thread, the use of contrast illustrates the idea lifestyle vs the reality, in which the animated version is the ideal lifestyle with regard to being an otaku whereas in actuality the following is much more despairing in a way


I have been thinking about it since my last post, and I think the idea is similar, but a bit different from what you and others have said. I think it's more about the duality of the lifestyle. Since both the Anime sections (more so the first tape though) and the interview sections highlight both posatives and negatives of being involved in the culture. It's about the fact that one hand Otaku culture can be uplifting, it can make you feel like you are part of a group when you otherwise would be a loner, it can give you bonds that can last a lifetime. But it can also socially isolate you from the rest of society, it can put your jobs and relationships at risk.

Really even though it does seem cruel at times with it's parodies of Otaku culture, I think it's only portraying how Otaku themselves think of themselves. I've noticed this on both stuff that I've read about Otaku, and in my conversations with people other than myself in western "nerd" culture. On one hand they champion it and try to get other people into it. But on the other hand they will go on about how depressed they are and how they will never amount to anything in life. I think Otaku no Video is trying to express that same duality.
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