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Jan 27, 9:27 AM
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Liam's relationship with Reina and her friends are really blooming.

Very similar to the previous episode as Liam goes to show off more magic skills. Scarlet still observes what he does so she's not taking eyes off of him. The fights in this show are really underwhelming imo including this one. They need to step it up.
Jan 27, 10:56 AM
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This is such a fun show! Although I'd like to see it from the other characters' points of view once in a while when Liam is talking to Radon, so we can see him just having a conversation with nothing :P
Jan 27, 11:16 AM
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Of course he gets the princess in the harem too cause why not lol. This show just goes all over the place. So Liam is now making his own country, recruiting every race in the promised land and naming them, creating his own army to maintain peace through strength.. Tensura from Temu. lol

I do get a chuckle every time Radon’s voice goes off in Liam’s head because he’s Rudeus’ inner voice as well.

But just a nothingburger of a show so far. Not horrible, but not good either. Pacing is way too fast too. Would be nice to see Liam actually face a challenge for once and to take things slow. Like even the radon clone trial happened in like 20 secs.. Liam meets the princess now she’s a massive simp and marrying him.. let us breathe lol
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Liam and Scarlet have zero romantic interaction, yet they're talking about marriage. Either they're coldblood that only think marriage is a political activity, or I'm skipping an episode or two where they're flirting, must only be one of these choices.
Jan 27, 11:36 AM
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phantomfandom said:
Liam and Scarlet have zero romantic interaction, yet they're talking about marriage. Either they're coldblood that only think marriage is a political activity, or I'm skipping an episode or two where they're flirting, must only be one of these choices.

You must’ve missed the whole portion of the ep where the noble from Jamil comes and offers the princess on behalf of the king.
Jan 27, 12:08 PM
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A wolf girl is super handy to have around...

Jan 27, 12:11 PM
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So is this what tensura watchers want when they complain about slow pacing? I'm so tired...
Jan 27, 1:31 PM
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phantomfandom said:
Liam and Scarlet have zero romantic interaction, yet they're talking about marriage. Either they're coldblood that only think marriage is a political activity, or I'm skipping an episode or two where they're flirting, must only be one of these choices.

This entire show has been on fast forward since episode one.
Jan 27, 1:58 PM
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This anime is one of the best isekai in a while.

Yes, like all of them, they have 'surface level similarities', but as I keep saying, it is how they use these things in the main story that makes or breaks the anime.

This anime has been fun to watch and the story is flowing well.

I am wanting to see the next episode and that counts for a lot.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Jan 27, 2:14 PM

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Liam and Scarlet have zero romantic interaction, yet they're talking about marriage. Either they're coldblood that only think marriage is a political activity, or I'm skipping an episode or two where they're flirting, must only be one of these choices.
@phantomfandom Have you learned or read any history before? Amongst kingdoms and nations in history, political marriages were the norm. However in many, the people have not even meat before or only on occasion, so they are basically strangers, with could make things hard for them. It was not about "romance" or "love", but a royal duty, and they were lucky if they were able to marry someone they actually loved.

This is a different situation, since princess Scarlet introduced herself to Liam, tested him as a subject of her nation, and she is now even serving under him, they are not strangers, but know and respect one another, plus they're working toward the same goals, to build a new nation on the Holy Land, ruled by the Dragon Radon & Liam as it's leader.

The noble from Jamil offered a peace deal and the king also offered his daughter the princess Scarlet to Liam, so now he has the recognition as a leader of a nation, with the strength and power worthy enough to sign a peace treaty and marry a princess, to be King & Queen of this new nation.

Other nations will have to recognize this nation, friend or foe, they can't ignore it, so they will need to make political moves in response to this new nation.

Scarlet also said that she has the dragon's blood flowing in her veins as a descendent of the first dragon and human union, so their own union follows in the ancient event from their history.

So this marriage serves their goals and it is to their advantage.

They can work on "romance" later, they do have an entire year before their engagement to be announced.
ejleonJan 27, 2:19 PM
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Jan 27, 2:34 PM
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It's the "Magic missile guy". Doesn't know better.
Jan 27, 2:36 PM
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Of course the most muscular and gruff sounding wolfman turned into a Loli voiced waifu.
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Considering this is a medieval-esque fantasy world full of violence like other countries of invaders seeking conquest and slave traders targeting other races such as pixies and elves, I would have not responded to the scouts so kindly like Liam did. Their one and only "warning" would have been killing almost all the scouts, massacring them by severing their heads, leaving only one alive to report back to their lord while bringing back the heads of his men, if he so chooses. The leader who gave the orders would definitely be killed as the first to die, and only one of the lower ranking men at the back of the line would be chosen as the surviving messenger. If the survivor chooses to leave behind the heads, I would instead display them with the helmets still attached, on pikes like Vlad the Impaler along the borders as a warning and as a message to other nations to not underestimate the new Dragon King. I would have also come up with a name on the spot for the new nation to let the rest of the surrounding rulers know; since it's called the promised land or paradise, Avalon would be a good name, and fits into the dragon-god theme.

...but alas, this ain't that kind of anime, as it's mainly a wish fulfillment slice of life.
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Jan 27, 3:29 PM
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Somebody needs putting on a police watchlist ^^^
Jan 27, 5:01 PM
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That escalated quickly 😳
Jan 27, 5:24 PM

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Soon there will be no pixies left, but the number of elves will grow and I didn't expect that when they showed the werewolf, she, will become Chris.
Jan 27, 5:26 PM
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what agony, I don't know if I can continue
Jan 27, 5:58 PM

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Liam's nation's slowly growing, and he's garnering an eclectic group of individuals to live in his newly formed nation lol
Jan 27, 6:42 PM
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Why isn’t Asuna and Jodi with him? They are his familiars, and wouldn’t they want to see the Holy land and be a part of helping to build it? It’s like once he got the elves he just ditched them. I understand they are adventurers but what could they be doing that’s more important than being with their master helping him? They could have acted as body guards for the elves before the beastmen came and became the body guards. They could have helped protect the place while he’s gone or traveled with him. They could have helped fight off the intruders hunting pixies not that he needed them. You’re telling me they were away from him for days if not weeks and was ok with it?
Jan 27, 6:45 PM
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Also what I don’t understand is the guy that came and proposed him marrying Scarlet was obviously lying. Saying he met her a few times but didn’t notice her standing right in front of him. And was the King really offering his daughter in a hand in marriage? Why wouldn’t the King summon him to the castle to tell him directly? That seemed fishy as hell. And I don’t know why he accepted. Was it really just to prevent them from breathing down his neck and trying other ways to get a hold of him and his powers?
Jan 27, 6:49 PM

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Liam just got his own Delta, a female wolf who fawns over him.
Great job defeating those stupid humans who tried to invade.
I do feel sorry for him having to try and come up with over 100 names for new contracts lol.
That dragon armor has made Liam & Scarlet more awesome.
I have ADD, ADHD & AUTISM, but this won't stop me. Let's keep having fun together.
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Jan 27, 8:32 PM
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naming creatures make them stronger
nation building of monsters and probably humanszl
harem building through servant contracts
reincarnated as a noble family and focuses purely on magic.
wolf girl turned servant..

is there one plot point unique?
Jan 27, 9:37 PM

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From the first couple of episodes, I thought it was going to be bad, but not that bad. Everything pours out of the horn of plenty for this kid. Power, women, land, influence. He can do it all, he's good at it all.
The author is also a weirdo. He's got scouts from one principality and ambassadors from another. They somehow found out about his micro-city and came to woo the princess. Immediately. He'd only started building his huts a few days ago, and they were already on their way. Not scouts, but an embassy that knows he's powerful. And they're giving away princesses left and right.
It's a clone of "Slime" and something else. There are elements of "The Eminence in Shadow" in wolf girl form. I was expecting her to get on his head, but they didn't go through with it. Also, she hasn't asked the master for puppies yet. I guess the age rating doesn't allow it.
Jan 27, 10:37 PM
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I think they should add the comedy genre here, because every time they feel a new power, they always immediately try it, no matter where they are wwwww
Jan 27, 11:02 PM
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yeah imma just going to make a spell to make things not break.. and another spell to keep this anime above a 6
Jan 27, 11:53 PM

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Founded a nation, transformed a male werewolf into a wolf girl, added more elves to his harem, engaged to the princess and equipped a magic armor. What's next then, Liam becomes galactic emperor?
Jan 28, 3:15 AM

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I think they should add the comedy genre here, because every time they feel a new power, they always immediately try it, no matter where they are wwwww
@Akira_MY Needs the "Parody" tag
Have fun, everyone. I'm going to drop "Speed-running My Easy-Mode Reincarnation (with Harem)."
Jan 28, 6:10 AM

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Like last week, Liam is always getting exponentially overpowered. Looks like the direction of this anime is world conquest because it doesn't really make sense to be that overpowered unless the enemies will be equally tough.

That said, I'm loving this.
Jan 28, 6:12 AM

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Of course the most muscular and gruff sounding wolfman turned into a Loli voiced waifu.
@maraviax This was a facepalm moment, but I gotto give props to the author for making me laugh.
Jan 28, 8:15 AM

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"I'll remove you by force" but he didn't do anything beyond that... (and he obviously used a spell 17 times as a warning, but it's rather appalling to see how they portrayed it...)

Obviously, bad guys will send this info to someone, and not just shut their trap because MC ordered them to. lol (it's rather annoying how naive this MC is)

Well, let's see where this goes. (... the adaptation is going downhill)
CrazyButNot4UJan 28, 8:29 AM
It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.
Jan 28, 9:41 AM

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World ending suit obtained. Make it a familair and end galaxies probs. Gg wp.
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Jan 28, 4:48 PM

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This show just reaches new levels of awful each episode. He can now create any magic he needs at his convenience, he acquires slav--sorry "familiars"--at exponential rates, he now has super-armor (and will apparently create even stronger armor next episode), and his position in the world is progressing so fast, by episode 8 he'll rule the world, the universe by episode 10, then the multiverse shortly after.

By far this is one of the lowest effort stories I've seen in a while. There are no stakes because his powers are already infinite, there's barely any character development (and the first two girls don't even get mentioned or appear in this episode), and beyond that it just feels empty and vapid. Nothing is presented of any substance and every idea has been done many times before and far better. The animation matches this trend as well: his defeat of the scouting party was literally a copy/pasted frame of him firing a power missile after teleporting into each soldier.

At this point it's only out of sheer, morbid curiosity that I'm even continuing this show. To each their own, but this show looks like a sub-4/10 so far.
Jan 28, 4:58 PM

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This anime is so ridiculously fast-paced that I can’t help but keep watching.

If they padded it out, I think it would just be too boring, so I appreciate them getting straight into it, but I have to admit I wasn’t expecting the protagonist to be the founder of a country five episodes in.
Jan 28, 9:18 PM
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felixsifuri said:
So is this what tensura watchers want when they complain about slow pacing? I'm so tired...

Fr. Like the pacing is awful and things just seem to happen
Jan 29, 2:37 PM

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I like to dabble in some of the isekai slop that comes out every season and this one feels so by the books it’s nearly unwatchable. Every time the dragon remarks how interesting the main character is, it’s like, really? Every new skill introduced has the same formula of “this skill is hard to master -> mc practices for a minute of run time -> mc has mastered the skill and extended his harem” or the occasional “mc is good…. but he could be better ;) ;) foreshadowing”.

I’m hoping this anime finds something to stand out from the rest (Sweet Reincarnation, another isekai, started off weak and leaned into its political world building and became better for it) but I maybe have one or two more episodes in me before dropping it if nothing improves. Maybe the nation building arc will amount to something interesting, but it really wouldn’t surprise me if the sociopolitical drama just follows the skill formula where everything just goes right with the illusion of conflict.
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Wait that was the wolf girl, thought he was a guy as well lol. But hey the wolf girl's finally here, she's named Chris. Second best girl, she's cute. Love Scarlet, I just said that she'd become the queen of the new nation last episode and she's already getting married to Liam lol. Not that I'm complaining at all. More pixies named and became elves, over 100 this time, that's a lot. The radon armors are powerful but they look so lame. Scarlet's normal outfit is way better.

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