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NegativeRei said:
I just finished the show. I'm not a big fan of action, but not gonna lie, I enjoyed this one. A-1 Pictures did a good job with the adaptation. That said, the whole game system is kinda meh. You'll find a lot of flaws if you think too much about it. I didn’t overanalyze it and just went with the flow.

The fight scenes are exceptionally well animated but the show is mostly mindless action without much buildup. Jinwoo just goes into random dungeons and fights, which means the battles mostly lack emotional impact. My favorite fight is the one against the blue anaconda, and that’s because it carries emotional weight. Before defeating the anaconda, we get Jinwoo’s monologue about why he needs to become stronger. In the double dungeon, despite being intelligent and creative, he was abandoned by others for being weak.

Despite this, the show is enjoyable. I think it gets more hate than it deserves because of its popularity. Not the best show, but a good one. 7/10 from me.

Before anyone comments asking about the point of this thread, I just wanted to share my opinion and know what others think. You're free to ignore it.

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Shawn-20 said:
NegativeRei said:
I just finished the show. I'm not a big fan of action, but not gonna lie, I enjoyed this one. A-1 Pictures did a good job with the adaptation. That said, the whole game system is kinda meh. You'll find a lot of flaws if you think too much about it. I didn’t overanalyze it and just went with the flow.

The fight scenes are exceptionally well animated but the show is mostly mindless action without much buildup. Jinwoo just goes into random dungeons and fights, which means the battles mostly lack emotional impact. My favorite fight is the one against the blue anaconda, and that’s because it carries emotional weight. Before defeating the anaconda, we get Jinwoo’s monologue about why he needs to become stronger. In the double dungeon, despite being intelligent and creative, he was abandoned by others for being weak.

Despite this, the show is enjoyable. I think it gets more hate than it deserves because of its popularity. Not the best show, but a good one. 7/10 from me.

Before anyone comments asking about the point of this thread, I just wanted to share my opinion and know what others think. You're free to ignore it.

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AnimeGirlGusher said:
@GRG3 Greatest argument of 2025

Also not only are you a Vinland Saga fan you have Thurdfion, one of the worst written characters of all time, in your favorites. You would get a better plot, characters, direction and lore if you came on a wall for a month then ran a picture of it through text recognition software.

Bro you have DS2 in your favourites. Which is literally Mt Nagaromo and Mugen Train Arc done better. Yet you call out SL for repetition(which it isnt yet)? You have Fire Force in there which has a plot that is constantly disruspted by fan service and excessive powerscaling and majority of its female characters arent even actually characters but more so eye candy to the audience and mostly plain damsel in distresses. Yet your pretentious ass wanna take bout plot and characterization? Hey, I got DS2 in my favourites too. But I understand its flaws and i know its still the same general cycle of DS just with a slightly tweaked cast and more building. So the same way I critique DS for being repetitive, I would do the same for SL. But you have bias and clearly you have no idea to what actually gives a character depth and what makes a decent/good story.
So please, dont call one of the most real and raw depictions of a human being one of the worst written characters ever. And you genuinely have no basis to even contest and talk about story.
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GRG3 said:
NegativeRei said:
I just finished the show. I'm not a big fan of action, but not gonna lie, I enjoyed this one. A-1 Pictures did a good job with the adaptation. That said, the whole game system is kinda meh. You'll find a lot of flaws if you think too much about it. I didn’t overanalyze it and just went with the flow.

The fight scenes are exceptionally well animated but the show is mostly mindless action without much buildup. Jinwoo just goes into random dungeons and fights, which means the battles mostly lack emotional impact. My favorite fight is the one against the blue anaconda, and that’s because it carries emotional weight. Before defeating the anaconda, we get Jinwoo’s monologue about why he needs to become stronger. In the double dungeon, despite being intelligent and resourceful, he was abandoned by others for being weak.

Despite this, the show is enjoyable. I think it gets more hate than it deserves because of its popularity. Not the best show, but a good one. 7/10 from me.

Before anyone comments asking about the point of this thread, I just wanted to share my opinion and know what others think. You're free to ignore it.

Bro icl just stop talking real quick.

SL is not mindless action without much buildup. Sung Jin Woo leveling up has a purpose. People getting awakened has a purpose. Gates popping up outta nowhere when the Earth was perfectly fine before has a purpose. Everything that happens in SL somewhat develops the story further which is how good stories are written.

I cant go into depth obviously cuz I'm a manhwa reader and you're clearly not but to SL is just mindless buildup and action means you have absolutely ZERO watching comprehension goddamn. Most of what you see now will pay off later on into the series trust that.

Criticism for SL's characterization and messages are valid af. But to actually disrespect the story and the worldbuilding and say it has no value/purpose is just so pretentious because not every story needs to be belief challenging and 'deep'.

@NegativeRei rq obviously my dumb ahh assumed you would have read the manhwa since it seemed like you was talking bout the whole thing but you havent. My bad. Most of the plot threads like the existence of the system and the ants have payoffs later down the line. You just gotta give it time. Like you do with most stories.
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You've written a lot. I did a quick read. I appreciate your love for the series. Yes, I'm an anime only. I'm watching season 2 and the new arc seems interesting.
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AnimeGirlGusher said:
@GRG3 Greatest argument of 2025

Also not only are you a Vinland Saga fan you have Thurdfion, one of the worst written characters of all time, in your favorites. You would get a better plot, characters, direction and lore if you came on a wall for a month then ran a picture of it through text recognition software.

Bro you have DS2 in your favourites. Which is literally Mt Nagaromo and Mugen Train Arc done better. Yet you call out SL for repetition(which it isnt yet)? You have Fire Force in there which has a plot that is constantly disruspted by fan service and excessive powerscaling and majority of its female characters arent even actually characters but more so eye candy to the audience and mostly plain damsel in distresses. Yet your pretentious ass wanna take bout plot and characterization? Hey, I got DS2 in my favourites too. But I understand its flaws and i know its still the same general cycle of DS just with a slightly tweaked cast and more building. So the same way I critique DS for being repetitive, I would do the same for SL. But you have bias and clearly you have no idea to what actually gives a character depth and what makes a decent/good story.
So please, dont call one of the most real and raw depictions of a human being one of the worst written characters ever. And you genuinely have no basis to even contest and talk about story.
@GRG3 What a block of nonsense, use paragraphs.

GRG3 said:
Fire Force in there which has a plot that is constantly disruspted by fan service

Fan service is based and it's amazingly well done adding to comedic effect, Fire force never shows any full shot of completely naked ass but in VS there's a big full screen shot of child Thorfin's entire bare ass, making VS the more explicit anime.

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excessive powerscaling

Fire Force has really good powerscalling and all character's actions during fights don't break any of the well defined rules of the anime. If you want to see excessive power scaling take a look at Vinland saga, where Thorfinn is able to jump 30 meters into the air, naruto runs and able to slice grown trained soldiers in half with dumb looking big swings that exposes his entire body.

GRG3 said:
majority of its female characters arent even actually characters but more so eye candy to the audience and mostly plain damsel in distresses.

Seems like you haven't watched the show and took the words of the prudes who cried about fanservice, the cast of heroes and villains are stacked with strong fit girls that play vital roles in crucial fights. You talk about damsels in distress but in VS all the women portrayed are all rape meat for bandits

GRG3 said:
dont call one of the most real and raw depictions of a human being one of the worst written characters ever.

Nothing is human about Thorfin, no human ever, especially in medieval times, came close to being as 1% like Thorfin. There are many famous revenge stories in that time period and none involved getting into a cuckholding relationship with the pleasure being denied a fair fight with a cheating coward.

You don't know what repetition means, what a sad cope for trying to defend SL, genre =/= repetition...
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AnimeGirlGusher said:
@GRG3 What a block of nonsense, use paragraphs.

GRG3 said:
Fire Force in there which has a plot that is constantly disruspted by fan service

Fan service is based and it's amazingly well done adding to comedic effect, Fire force never shows any full shot of completely naked ass but in VS there's a big full screen shot of child Thorfin's entire bare ass, making VS the more explicit anime.

GRG3 said:
excessive powerscaling

Fire Force has really good powerscalling and all character's actions during fights don't break any of the well defined rules of the anime. If you want to see excessive power scaling take a look at Vinland saga, where Thorfinn is able to jump 30 meters into the air, naruto runs and able to slice grown trained soldiers in half with dumb looking big swings that exposes his entire body.

GRG3 said:
majority of its female characters arent even actually characters but more so eye candy to the audience and mostly plain damsel in distresses.

Seems like you haven't watched the show and took the words of the prudes who cried about fanservice, the cast of heroes and villains are stacked with strong fit girls that play vital roles in crucial fights. You talk about damsels in distress but in VS all the women portrayed are all rape meat for bandits

GRG3 said:
dont call one of the most real and raw depictions of a human being one of the worst written characters ever.

Nothing is human about Thorfin, no human ever, especially in medieval times, came close to being as 1% like Thorfin. There are many famous revenge stories in that time period and none involved getting into a cuckholding relationship with the pleasure being denied a fair fight with a cheating coward.

You don't know what repetition means, what a sad cope for trying to defend SL, genre =/= repetition...



I have watched Fire Force and dropped its ass, I dont just remember enough of that boring shi to grade it.(I'll read the manga soon enough).


And fan service is not 'based' when it comes to works like Fire Force. It works in shows and mangas like Prison School and Grand Blue which are for young adults but for a shonen, targeted to young boys, the constant exposure to the objectification and sexualization of women is not 'based.' Especially when said exposure is so much, majority of the anime watchers complain its too much so much so that a major plot point will be happening and then Hibana chest will just start jiggling all over the place(hyperbole you get the point.)

And goddamn when i say human i mean the emotional side. Thorfinn is a heavily flawed individual who has great guilt and turmoil and inner conflict within himself. He becomes a slave to rage and then guilt and constantly tries to free himself from that. Bro I'm not about to explain character depth to you fr. I cannot be bothered. And I know you are exaggerating(hopefully) but to describe Thorfinns and Askelaad's relationship like that is just disrespectful fr. Like I can tell you acc didnt even bother to understand or pay attention to anything.

Ok I really dont care what your response is. So you dont gotta reply. Whatever you say wont change my mind, not that you care. And whatever I said on here definitely didnt change any of your opinions. Thats fine idrc. Again somehow you watched the same Vinland Saga I watched and thought that badly of it. Same with SL. Same with how I view Fire Force and how you view it. That's how fiction works. Have a good day/night.

And bro you didnt even bother to deny the fact DS is repetitive at times😂😂. You just said sumn bout idk what repetition is. Lame ahh.
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CheliosX said:

Yea, what you said was no lie. And I couldn't care less. I said FLAT in the sense that it's okay. And by "simplistic but good", I was trying to imply the same thing but it seems my wording was wrong.
The Solo Leveling plot as a story in general is okay. But as a pure power fantasy show it's intriguing and good. And my point still stands that it's mainly battle shōnentards that'll glaze it as peak fiction.
Solo Leveling is not terrible, it's not peak. That's that.

And the world building? It's not terrible. For a story like Solo Leveling, it did well with its world building. Satisfactory to me. The lore is good too.
But I won't call it peak.
The story centers around Sung Jin-Woo but it's expected since it's a Solo story and whatnot.
I wouldn't have said any of this if I wasn't well informed on the world of SL. Got that?
That's all I'm saying.

As for the battle shōnentards, I won't take that back because from the majority of people I have encountered that glaze it, they only talk about the fights and Sung Jin-Woo's drip and aura. Nothing more. The term "battle shōnentard" can be found offensive but that's the way I describe people that have that mentality. I don't mean to insult them. I am just saying the truth.
I love Solo Leveling but not because of the fights, it's more of how Sung Jin-Woo grew as a character though not magnificent but well enough to make me admire him.
I have no issue with people being entranced by SL fights and animation. You're free to do so.

Eh at least you elaborated your points somewhat. I still disagree but idk there is some common ground.

No worries. We were able to get that out of the way.
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CheliosX said:
I thought Solo Leveling was peak before since it was the first ever manhwa I read (Dec 2023). I then came across the real peaks like ORV, Baskerville Bloodhound, GED, TBATE, Pick Me Up etc. That was when I realized SL was just meh in everything except fights.


As a power fantasy show, Solo Leveling is S tier. That's why battle shōnentards keep glazing it as if it's peak fiction. The fights are the only peak parts.
As for every other thing like world building, character depth and so on, it falls flat fr.
I only gave it (anime) a 9 for the fights and animation.
Story - 5.
Fights/animation - 9.

tbate bein sold on the anime mane💔breaks ma heart seeing such an amazing manhwa be fucked up
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AirEscobar said:
CheliosX said:
I thought Solo Leveling was peak before since it was the first ever manhwa I read (Dec 2023). I then came across the real peaks like ORV, Baskerville Bloodhound, GED, TBATE, Pick Me Up etc. That was when I realized SL was just meh in everything except fights.


As a power fantasy show, Solo Leveling is S tier. That's why battle shōnentards keep glazing it as if it's peak fiction. The fights are the only peak parts.
As for every other thing like world building, character depth and so on, it falls flat fr.
I only gave it (anime) a 9 for the fights and animation.
Story - 5.
Fights/animation - 9.

tbate bein sold on the anime mane💔breaks ma heart seeing such an amazing manhwa be fucked up

I've been sad ever since we got the studio as A-Cat. Man, what a fumble. I can't even look forward to the anime. 💔
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Piromysl said:
Why do people assume that just because something is generic and has overused formula it's immidietly bad? It's always about execution.

“There is no such thing as a new idea. It is impossible. We simply take a lot of old ideas and put them into a sort of mental kaleidoscope.” -Mark Twain

I don’t know why people find similar formulas, themes, formats, plots, etc surprising. Even the same exact stories have been redone multiple times; how many versions of Romeo and Juliet are there? Or Cinderella? Sword in the Stone?

Like you said, it’s about execution.
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i can understand the prospective of emotional build but the fights scenes are not at all
After the snake fight,
the dungeon he goes to next is because he has pay rent for the house so he goes in that dungeon where he kills humans
second time he go to S rank gate because the system gave him purpose to go in that dungeon so that he can get the elixier of life
THird time he has a request from hunter association to fill up the member for clearing the D-rank gate, where he meets with purple haired guy.
Fourth he goes with jinhos request because he is the only one who knows about jinwoo and makes a deal with him to go to dungeon
And last he goes to job change quest because he was curious to how much system wants him to push to get more stronger.

THere simple and easy.
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"blah blah blah "
ok and?
solo leveling is peak and sung jin woo is him and he solos your fav characters verses
"Are you the strongest because you're Satoru Gojo? Or are you Satoru Gojo because you're the strongest?"~ Suguru Geto

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"blah blah blah "
ok and?
solo leveling is peak and sung jin woo is him and he solos your fav characters verses
@AMBITZZ Spoken like a true average SL fan.
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@AMBITZZ Spoken like a true average SL fan.
@GTRaijin of course and I am proud of it lmao. stay mad and keep crying cuz its more popular than whatever obscure elitist shitshows you have in your favs.
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@GTRaijin of course and I am proud of it lmao. stay mad and keep crying cuz its more popular than whatever obscure elitist shitshows you have in your favs.
@AMBITZZ That's all you can say? That is actually really sad.
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@AMBITZZ That's all you can say? That is actually really sad.
@GTRaijin it's sad ? ok man seems like you got another reason to cry 😂😂
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Okay, as an anime watcher only: I'm going to hang around for the 2nd season after I scored the first one 6/10 to see how I feel. I don't think it's bad, but I realize that power fantasy may not be for me? It's not the aspect of repeating the trope. I found myself feeling indifferent to all characters, and when it happens, I have a hard time following through. The story interested me in the beginning, but again, the prospect of powering up may not be my cup of tea. As for the praised action, the hype I felt in the beginning left me later, and I love action shows! I felt it way more on paper when I read Ajin and all of Trigun last year for example. All in all I don't understand the hype for it because I think I'm not the target audience. If the new season doesn't change how I feel, then I will stop at that. I just wanted to check out what the whole fuss was about :p now watch me get eaten alive for saying all this
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Bro, if you are watching solo leveling for the plot, then just stop watching, it doesn't have a story, the only thing it has which is going for it is it's action. So stop thinking about the plot, shut down your brain and focus on the action, and enjoy that
And emotional impact of a fight scene?
It doesn't have them
Solo leveling is just a handsome guy fighting random monsters in the most coolest way possible. That's it.
it's not that deep bro.
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Bro, if you are watching solo leveling for the plot, then just stop watching, it doesn't have a story, the only thing it has which is going for it is it's action. So stop thinking about the plot, shut down your brain and focus on the action, and enjoy that
And emotional impact of a fight scene?
It doesn't have them
Solo leveling is just a handsome guy fighting random monsters in the most coolest way possible. That's it.
it's not that deep bro.

How can a piece of fiction not have a story? You know how dumb that sounds right? Mediocre plot or not, SL does a story to tell and something to say like most pieces of fiction. And the monsters r not 'random'. They are there on earth for a purpose. You seem to have read the manhwa. You should know this.
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GRG3 said:
cursed_viper said:
Bro, if you are watching solo leveling for the plot, then just stop watching, it doesn't have a story, the only thing it has which is going for it is it's action. So stop thinking about the plot, shut down your brain and focus on the action, and enjoy that
And emotional impact of a fight scene?
It doesn't have them
Solo leveling is just a handsome guy fighting random monsters in the most coolest way possible. That's it.
it's not that deep bro.

How can a piece of fiction not have a story? You know how dumb that sounds right? Mediocre plot or not, SL does a story to tell and something to say like most pieces of fiction. And the monsters r not 'random'. They are there on earth for a purpose. You seem to have read the manhwa. You should know this.

bro by it didn't have have story I meant to say was the plot is really bad and pointless
it's a way of speaking
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I guess the only reason this series sucess out of countless similar plot with OP main character was because Jinwoo basically SOLO everything unlike all other OP main character out there always crowded with harem or pointless and useless nakama.
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NegativeRei said:

this is too short for a review

that's what She said

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GRGE is the only person with a brain in this thread.

MC isn't even OP. You people need to watch isekais and understand what a real OP is.

(Even if he's the only one that can get stronger in a world where no one else can get stronger, he has to work for it. His struggles against other enemies are real. And the potential consequences are very strongly foreshadowed.)

Even though this show has a rather fair score of 8.27 here it's still underrated by elitists who seem to have watched a completely different series than I or the people who love it.

The action and animation are very good, yes, but the story is too. It's not the most complex or deep ever, and it lacks in the character department, but I feel like many shows that are critically acclaimed do also.

There's a lot of tension, moral struggle within the self of the MC, etc. Anyone who says this is a show where you "turn off your brain" has no idea what they're talking about. There's good stuff here that people deliberately choose to ignore because it's an isekai-adjacent. Same thing that happened with Re:Zero.
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