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Jan 4, 8:16 AM
#1
Sakacooked days ,its over guys this adaptation will flop. Go watch Solo leveling or Orb on the movements of the earth instead this season TMS why didn't you put some of the animators from lupin the 3rd,megalo box or detective conan on this show. Why give us midðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ The staff seems pretty good is it only because of the director?? |
Jan 4, 8:23 AM
#2
I say just wait till the first episode is out then we will just wait and see. |
Jan 4, 8:45 AM
#3
The problem is the director lmao if Moriyama took the helm instead it would have looked as good as SL or atleast on par with it the production committee fumbled real bad on a very good chance to make a lot of profit the Jp fans were already mad now it’ll probably be another Chainsaw man situation |
UruichiJan 4, 8:51 AM
Jan 4, 8:55 AM
#4
Not relevant, I’ll watch an actual episode rather than trying to be first to shit on something I’ve never seen. |
Jan 4, 8:59 AM
#5
FutoiOtaku said: Not relevant, I’ll watch an actual episode rather than trying to be first to shit on something I’ve never seen. Same, I agree with mai senpai |
Jan 4, 9:17 AM
#6
ImTheHourlyDevil said: FutoiOtaku said: Not relevant, I’ll watch an actual episode rather than trying to be first to shit on something I’ve never seen. Same, I agree with mai senpai I third agree on this one |
Jan 4, 9:19 AM
#7
FutoiOtaku said: Not relevant, I’ll watch an actual episode rather than trying to be first to shit on something I’ve never seen. exactly, don't need to judge so quickly |
Jan 4, 9:39 AM
#9
They got the most hype ass music for all them to just aura farm lmao |
Jan 4, 9:39 AM
#10
Mackyreels said: Sakacooked days ,its over guys this adaptation will flop. Go watch Solo leveling or Orb on the movements of the earth instead this season TMS why didn't you put some of the animators from lupin the 3rd,megalo box or detective conan on this show. Why give us midðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ The staff seems pretty good is it only because of the director?? Its ok a casual like yourself feels that way |
Jan 4, 9:48 AM
#11
Mackyreels said: Sakacooked days ,its over guys this adaptation will flop. Go watch Solo leveling or Orb on the movements of the earth instead this season TMS why didn't you put some of the animators from lupin the 3rd,megalo box or detective conan on this show. Why give us midðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ The staff seems pretty good is it only because of the director?? really? i don't think it's mid animation. Maybe it's just me. well anyway we can decide that after watching the first episode. I guess |
Jan 4, 11:00 AM
#13
People trying to defend the animation of this op are copping hard… The characters are still and when they move it looks so stiff, there’s literally a blue lock moment where the characters stay still and camera moves. I still have hope that maybe just maybe it will get better than this but leakers recently really shut that down along with the director. Sakamoto Days really deserved so much better than this!!! On a good note: Gintama like opening and nice song. |
Jan 4, 11:15 AM
#15
imagine trashing an anime that's not even out yet, and fr, can you just enjoy something for once instead of telling it's trash for no reason ? |
Jan 4, 11:36 AM
#16
Knew it was cooked when I saw the studio and director combo, even the OP looking bad is crazy tho lol |
Jan 4, 11:50 AM
#17
I don't know what you meant by mid animation it was preety good wait till the day first ep airs we will see that day |
Jan 4, 12:19 PM
#18
I don't get the hate on Sakamoto days, can someone explain? |
Jan 4, 12:33 PM
#19
I dont get it to. Why not waiting till the first episode? |
Jan 4, 1:06 PM
#20
DragonOussama said: I dont get it to. Why not waiting till the first episode? Director and leakers plus the OP and trailers animation are giving away the biggest “oh no” vibe. It could be better though, who knows? |
Jan 4, 1:09 PM
#21
SCYTHER07 said: Cry more.If the story is good that's all that matters Yeah… unfortunately this series heavily depends on its fights scenes. Plus it’s literally the debut, you know which should attract people into watching it. Story being good isn’t a thing till a specific arc. So if the animation sucks -> death of this anime. Hence why you should criticise it not be okay with it looking like this… |
Jan 4, 1:42 PM
#22
NormieZzz said: I don't get the hate on Sakamoto days, can someone explain? The reason is the choose of the studio, TMS, for the adaptation, Sakamoto days is an action/comedy manga but its action scenes are wonderful, the composition of his autor, Suzuki Yuto, is dinamic, creative and fluent; many manga readers are worried that the studio can't do well the action scenes, trailers are fine, but we hope more for Sakadays. I hope for the best. |
Jan 4, 1:48 PM
#23
I wish people would give this adaptation a chance instead of doomsaying to this extent. There's a difference between being worried and writing off this adaptation before it even aired. |
Auroraloose's Aurorasimp |
Jan 4, 2:46 PM
#24
Reply to Confused_100
SCYTHER07 said:
Cry more.If the story is good that's all that matters
Cry more.If the story is good that's all that matters
Yeah… unfortunately this series heavily depends on its fights scenes. Plus it’s literally the debut, you know which should attract people into watching it. Story being good isn’t a thing till a specific arc.
So if the animation sucks -> death of this anime. Hence why you should criticise it not be okay with it looking like this…
@Confused_100 Still not gonna criticise it cause thats childish behavior.Id rather be patient and keep watching the 'bad animation' rather than watch something super popular with god tier animation like demon slayer. If the story gets boring id naturally drop it |
Jan 4, 3:00 PM
#25
Reply to Confused_100
People trying to defend the animation of this op are copping hard… The characters are still and when they move it looks so stiff, there’s literally a blue lock moment where the characters stay still and camera moves.
I still have hope that maybe just maybe it will get better than this but leakers recently really shut that down along with the director. Sakamoto Days really deserved so much better than this!!!
On a good note: Gintama like opening and nice song.
I still have hope that maybe just maybe it will get better than this but leakers recently really shut that down along with the director. Sakamoto Days really deserved so much better than this!!!
On a good note: Gintama like opening and nice song.
@Confused_100 I'm so tired of this shit. This is nothing new and certainly isn't just a 'Blue Lock' moment. This type of shots has ALWAYS existed. You guys have this debilitating fear of still frames, which is ridiculous. Still frames have always existed, they will continue to exist and SHOULD exist. This OBSESSION with animation has been increasing since Demon Slayer and it's unbearable. |
Jan 4, 3:34 PM
#26
Reply to SCYTHER07
Cry more.If the story is good that's all that matters
@SCYTHER07 Dumb opinion. If story is the only thing which matters, why make an anime adaptation at the first place, just read the manga. or maybe just voice over the manga and present them as episodes like blue lock. Production matters more. A manga like sakamoto days deserves a good anime production and it's fair to criticize what we are being presented |
Jan 4, 3:36 PM
#27
Reply to SuzuXIII
@Confused_100 I'm so tired of this shit. This is nothing new and certainly isn't just a 'Blue Lock' moment. This type of shots has ALWAYS existed. You guys have this debilitating fear of still frames, which is ridiculous. Still frames have always existed, they will continue to exist and SHOULD exist. This OBSESSION with animation has been increasing since Demon Slayer and it's unbearable.
@SuzuXIII Yee how dare people look out for ANIMAtion in ANIMES? |
Jan 4, 3:48 PM
#28
SCYTHER07 said: @Confused_100 Still not gonna criticise it cause thats childish behavior.Id rather be patient and keep watching the 'bad animation' rather than watch something super popular with god tier animation like demon slayer. If the story gets boring id naturally drop it And here’s the thing, you think demon slayer’s story is bad, yet it sold better than jjk and csm with lower number of volumes… I know this is gonna sound weird to you, but the theme of family is huge in eastern culture compared to western, hence the popularity. You thinking the story is weak is your opinion. Now for the animation criticism is equal to childish remark? Really? LOL Best answer using your pfp: imagine sasuke vs itachi fight with mid animation, I would love to see you defend it. |
Confused_100Jan 4, 4:02 PM
Jan 4, 3:51 PM
#29
SuzuXIII said: @Confused_100 I'm so tired of this shit. This is nothing new and certainly isn't just a 'Blue Lock' moment. This type of shots has ALWAYS existed. You guys have this debilitating fear of still frames, which is ridiculous. Still frames have always existed, they will continue to exist and SHOULD exist. This OBSESSION with animation has been increasing since Demon Slayer and it's unbearable. Still frames in OPs existed? What type of anime did you watch that did that without making it look artistic? Bruh I literally said I hope it is better than this because I am a fan of the manga and I know this deserves one punch man season 1 kind of treatment but all I am seeing is worse treatment. Something like oshi no ko that isn’t even shounen has a better art and animation than this… So stop acting this looks good and actually criticise to get a better product. Dandadan got better treatment, wind breaker got better treatment, frieren got better treatment. Almost all of the new gen got better treatment, but when we reach one of the GOATs of the new gen, we get this… Like CMON!!! If you want mid animation for great mangas, then you weren’t a fan because you didn’t care for it. Logic applies. (Btw frieren is one of the GOATs of new gen and I am happy it got the treatment it deserved) |
Confused_100Jan 4, 3:59 PM
Jan 4, 4:26 PM
#30
It will be like OPM S2 where many people believed that the TV animation would be better than the trailer and ended up being a disappointment✅ |
Jan 4, 4:57 PM
#31
Reply to LIVI___
@SuzuXIII Yee how dare people look out for ANIMAtion in ANIMES?
@LIVI___ If it was just people looking out I wouldn't care, it's not though. It's an obsession with animation that goes beyond just anime. You'll see this in Western shows too. It's the people that shit bricks at still frames, or the people that call anything that doesn't have noodle limbs and 56 impact frames bad animation. We're past people just looking out for it at this point. |
Jan 4, 5:07 PM
#32
Reply to Confused_100
SuzuXIII said:
@Confused_100 I'm so tired of this shit. This is nothing new and certainly isn't just a 'Blue Lock' moment. This type of shots has ALWAYS existed. You guys have this debilitating fear of still frames, which is ridiculous. Still frames have always existed, they will continue to exist and SHOULD exist. This OBSESSION with animation has been increasing since Demon Slayer and it's unbearable.
@Confused_100 I'm so tired of this shit. This is nothing new and certainly isn't just a 'Blue Lock' moment. This type of shots has ALWAYS existed. You guys have this debilitating fear of still frames, which is ridiculous. Still frames have always existed, they will continue to exist and SHOULD exist. This OBSESSION with animation has been increasing since Demon Slayer and it's unbearable.
Still frames in OPs existed? What type of anime did you watch that did that without making it look artistic?
Bruh I literally said I hope it is better than this because I am a fan of the manga and I know this deserves one punch man season 1 kind of treatment but all I am seeing is worse treatment. Something like oshi no ko that isn’t even shounen has a better art and animation than this… So stop acting this looks good and actually criticise to get a better product.
Dandadan got better treatment, wind breaker got better treatment, frieren got better treatment. Almost all of the new gen got better treatment, but when we reach one of the GOATs of the new gen, we get this… Like CMON!!! If you want mid animation for great mangas, then you weren’t a fan because you didn’t care for it. Logic applies.
(Btw frieren is one of the GOATs of new gen and I am happy it got the treatment it deserved)
@Confused_100 YES still frames (or camera panning shots without character movement like you said) in OPs exist. Some examples would be Naruto, Chainsawman, DanDaDan, Demon Slayer, JJK etc. all have them because there is nothing bad about them. |
Jan 4, 5:29 PM
#33
SuzuXIII said: @Confused_100 YES still frames (or camera panning shots without character movement like you said) in OPs exist. Some examples would be Naruto, Chainsawman, DanDaDan, Demon Slayer, JJK etc. all have them because there is nothing bad about them. You are ignoring what I said on purpose LMAO. None of what you said had still frames except for artistic reasons (aka a wallpaper moment), here there is none. But go on defend like a non fan would do and ignore the main criticisms I gave in last response. Waste of time to respond to at this point. |
Jan 4, 8:44 PM
#34
ill give it the ol 1 ep ordeal im not gonna jump the gun this quick |
Jan 4, 8:57 PM
#35
I’m gonna wait for the anime to come out, but my hopes have been abolished, I’m sure the show will be fun, but it’s gonna be rly disappointing for the ppl who wanted an adaptation like that of DanDaDan, Kaiju No 8 (god I hate that anime), Frieren. SakaDays deserves wayy better than TMS. TMS doesn’t even have anything impressive in their works, THEY LITERALLY ANIMATED BAKI AND IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT. |
Jan 4, 8:58 PM
#36
FutoiOtaku said: Not relevant, I’ll watch an actual episode rather than trying to be first to shit on something I’ve never seen. You haven’t seen the trailers? |
Jan 4, 8:59 PM
#37
SCYTHER07 said: Cry more.If the story is good that's all that matters My guy, SakaDays is more abt the action than the story. Imagine now, how an action show would work with mediocre animation. |
Jan 4, 9:10 PM
#38
someguy said: FutoiOtaku said: Not relevant, I’ll watch an actual episode rather than trying to be first to shit on something I’ve never seen. You haven’t seen the trailers? Yes. Nothing terrible about them. You’re really desperate to pile on the negativity for no reason. At least the makers don’t waste their time looking at MAL forums and reading bs from self appointed experts. It’s anime, above average at that from those clips. If you need photorealistic animation try the Chinese stuff. |
Jan 4, 9:11 PM
#39
yeah it looks mid sadly but instead of recommending more mid like those, people should read the source material instead. |
Jan 4, 9:54 PM
#40
Reply to LIVI___
@SCYTHER07 Dumb opinion. If story is the only thing which matters, why make an anime adaptation at the first place, just read the manga. or maybe just voice over the manga and present them as episodes like blue lock. Production matters more. A manga like sakamoto days deserves a good anime production and it's fair to criticize what we are being presented
@LIVI___ The greatest of animation doesn't save the crappiest and the most bottom of the barrel stories. Production does NOT matter more than story. That's one of the dumbest takes I've seen in this site, and I've seen a few. That's like saying prettying and swagging up a pile of shit is more important than the fact that it's a pile of shit. Of course it's fair to criticize visual aspects, but that opening didn't look bad at all. It wasn't crazy or anything, but it's crazy that this would be worth the criticism. This sounds more like entitlement and immaturity. Cartoon adaptations allow for fun and enjoyable direction. Hell, I even liked the Way of The Househusband anime because it hit the comedic bits. You can have subpar animation and still create an enjoyable sequence. Likewise, you can have very talented people drawing, but because the scene is so poorly directed and edited, it ends up being garbage. If the direction and story aren't good, it's probably not going to be good. Doesn't matter if Hayao Miyazaki blessed the show with his artistic talent. |
Jan 4, 10:51 PM
#41
FutoiOtaku said: someguy said: FutoiOtaku said: Not relevant, I’ll watch an actual episode rather than trying to be first to shit on something I’ve never seen. You haven’t seen the trailers? Yes. Nothing terrible about them. You’re really desperate to pile on the negativity for no reason. At least the makers don’t waste their time looking at MAL forums and reading bs from self appointed experts. It’s anime, above average at that from those clips. If you need photorealistic animation try the Chinese stuff. I mean, for an action heavy series the animation is quite limited. You may think that not every anime needs excellent animation, and ye that is true, but you also need to consider the fact that sakamoto days is one of the best selling manga and is also highly praised for its action. I don’t want the show to suck, and wish that I can embarrassingly be proved wrong by TMS, though that’s highly unlikely. I also don’t think the animation is terrible, it’s just average, and unfortunately that’s not enough, you would know if you’ve ever read the manga. I’m gonna enjoy the show anyway, even if it does have bad animation, but I feel like because of that a lot of other ppl will not be able to enjoy Sakamoto Days the same way the fans did. |
someguyJan 4, 10:55 PM
Jan 5, 12:09 AM
#42
Reply to daft_mariner
@LIVI___ The greatest of animation doesn't save the crappiest and the most bottom of the barrel stories. Production does NOT matter more than story. That's one of the dumbest takes I've seen in this site, and I've seen a few. That's like saying prettying and swagging up a pile of shit is more important than the fact that it's a pile of shit. Of course it's fair to criticize visual aspects, but that opening didn't look bad at all. It wasn't crazy or anything, but it's crazy that this would be worth the criticism. This sounds more like entitlement and immaturity.
Cartoon adaptations allow for fun and enjoyable direction. Hell, I even liked the Way of The Househusband anime because it hit the comedic bits. You can have subpar animation and still create an enjoyable sequence. Likewise, you can have very talented people drawing, but because the scene is so poorly directed and edited, it ends up being garbage. If the direction and story aren't good, it's probably not going to be good. Doesn't matter if Hayao Miyazaki blessed the show with his artistic talent.
Cartoon adaptations allow for fun and enjoyable direction. Hell, I even liked the Way of The Househusband anime because it hit the comedic bits. You can have subpar animation and still create an enjoyable sequence. Likewise, you can have very talented people drawing, but because the scene is so poorly directed and edited, it ends up being garbage. If the direction and story aren't good, it's probably not going to be good. Doesn't matter if Hayao Miyazaki blessed the show with his artistic talent.
@daft_mariner A good production always elevates the story while the bad one cripples it. Demon slayer is the best example for it, People call demon slayer overrated and mid but the popularity it achieved is a dream every other producers dream of. So "greatest of animation" does save the crappiest and most bottom of the barrel stories, you can look up sukuna vs mahoraga from JJK, the manga itself doesn't really contain much, it's just 2 chapters of fight and mahoraga was just introduced out of nowhere yet the anime adaptation just elevates it to the extent that they are both different media now and the anime version is just way too superior than the manga too much that sukuna vs maho is considered one of the greatest fights in anime. Story doesn't mean shit when the production is bad(altough in a very few exceptional cases story is too good for an average production to affect it), a bad production will always handicap the story in some way you have already seen badly produced shows being turned into shit despite it having crazy good writing and story, The most recent example is Blue Lock and uzumaki. You just never notice how important the production is. Blue Lock and Haiykuu are both animes belonging from the same sports genre, blue have been the best selling manga of all time surpassing even one piece and jjk. But when it comes to the anime, y'know the rest of the case. Also "direction" comes under the production too, Even in the most of the genres, the production has carried it's popularity. Let's just ignore action, let's take slice of life. The bests of the slice of life animes have one thing in common, and that's a good production. That's the same for Kyoto Animation projects, they hold a reputable position for how they produce their anime and the quality of their production altough they may not have the best stories but their production is responsible for making that story feel special to you. Speaking of Hayao Miyazaki, let's their example, studio ghibli films are carried by the production. Sounds like a hot opinion? but it's not, people just don't notice this. If you take away the production from his movies they wouldn't feel special at all, the plot and stories in itself aren't great, all the love which people have for ghibli films are because these movies feels beautiful and immersive to a beautiful fictional world. that is because of the artistic talent and vision of miyazaki and his direction which comes under production. I would just suggest you to watch this 10 min vid and then share you counter opinion or otherwise we would just be aruging back and forth for hours and reach nowhere It's a very good video which changed my opinion in how i viewed animes too |
LIVI___Jan 5, 12:14 AM
Jan 5, 1:38 AM
#43
Reply to LIVI___
@SCYTHER07 Dumb opinion. If story is the only thing which matters, why make an anime adaptation at the first place, just read the manga. or maybe just voice over the manga and present them as episodes like blue lock. Production matters more. A manga like sakamoto days deserves a good anime production and it's fair to criticize what we are being presented
@LIVI___ Id rather watch an anime with a good adaptation than read a manga cause you can just sit back and relax while watching the show unlike the manga where you have to keep scrolling every few seconds.I agree a good manga deserves a good anime adaptation but its not complete shit the animation in sakamoto days looks decent but for some crybabies animation is all that matters.Also second thing is that besides animation theres ost voice acting,op,ed and so many more things that happen in an anime which makes it better than a manga |
Jan 5, 1:44 AM
#45
Reply to Confused_100
SCYTHER07 said:
@Confused_100 Still not gonna criticise it cause thats childish behavior.Id rather be patient and keep watching the 'bad animation' rather than watch something super popular with god tier animation like demon slayer. If the story gets boring id naturally drop it
@Confused_100 Still not gonna criticise it cause thats childish behavior.Id rather be patient and keep watching the 'bad animation' rather than watch something super popular with god tier animation like demon slayer. If the story gets boring id naturally drop it
And here’s the thing, you think demon slayer’s story is bad, yet it sold better than jjk and csm with lower number of volumes…
I know this is gonna sound weird to you, but the theme of family is huge in eastern culture compared to western, hence the popularity. You thinking the story is weak is your opinion.
Now for the animation criticism is equal to childish remark? Really? LOL
Best answer using your pfp: imagine sasuke vs itachi fight with mid animation, I would love to see you defend it.
@Confused_100 Majority of the fanbase of demon slayer consists of kids and teenagers, you know why cause you don't need to think while watching it its just for the sake of entertainment and doesn't need to apply a lot of thought process. Also I wasn't solely relying on Itachi vs Sasuke for enjoying Naruto, theres so much more than just that one fight like Itachis mindset his love for his village and the things he had to sacrifice to make certain things happen.Also id still watch the fight with mid animation and be happy with it |
Jan 5, 1:50 AM
#46
Reply to someguy
SCYTHER07 said:
Cry more.If the story is good that's all that matters
Cry more.If the story is good that's all that matters
My guy, SakaDays is more abt the action than the story. Imagine now, how an action show would work with mediocre animation.
@someguy Theres always an option to drop it if the story's not good |
Jan 5, 2:49 AM
#47
SCYTHER07 said: @Confused_100 Majority of the fanbase of demon slayer consists of kids and teenagers, you know why cause you don't need to think while watching it its just for the sake of entertainment and doesn't need to apply a lot of thought process. Also I wasn't solely relying on Itachi vs Sasuke for enjoying Naruto, theres so much more than just that one fight like Itachis mindset his love for his village and the things he had to sacrifice to make certain things happen.Also id still watch the fight with mid animation and be happy with it You are ignoring the main point of my argument… smh The point of the matter: the story is good but if the animation of a fight scene is bad, the emotions you feel for the fight goes flat. So if the story is hyping this fight to come and that fight falls flat, how do you think it will impact your perception of the story? Yeah a lot especially for an action anime. but even if it isn’t then ironically something like uzumaki which has a great story got ruined just because of animation. Btw demon slayer is mostly watched by kids? Teenagers I get and families but kids? Okay, there’s an easy response to that, first episode lol. The story being simple isn’t equal bad if it achieves it correctly. The opinion of “story more complex equals masterpiece” is flawed. Anyways at the end of this conversation: I do hope and wish I am wrong and the animation of this skyrockets because I really want this to be anime of the season or year even. Until then, I will keep criticising because I want a better adaptation. Sakadays deserves it. |
Jan 5, 3:17 AM
#48
ive already caught up to the manga last year and i love it |
Jan 5, 4:04 AM
#49
Reply to LIVI___
@daft_mariner A good production always elevates the story while the bad one cripples it. Demon slayer is the best example for it, People call demon slayer overrated and mid but the popularity it achieved is a dream every other producers dream of. So "greatest of animation" does save the crappiest and most bottom of the barrel stories, you can look up sukuna vs mahoraga from JJK, the manga itself doesn't really contain much, it's just 2 chapters of fight and mahoraga was just introduced out of nowhere yet the anime adaptation just elevates it to the extent that they are both different media now and the anime version is just way too superior than the manga too much that sukuna vs maho is considered one of the greatest fights in anime.
Story doesn't mean shit when the production is bad(altough in a very few exceptional cases story is too good for an average production to affect it), a bad production will always handicap the story in some way you have already seen badly produced shows being turned into shit despite it having crazy good writing and story, The most recent example is Blue Lock and uzumaki. You just never notice how important the production is.
Blue Lock and Haiykuu are both animes belonging from the same sports genre, blue have been the best selling manga of all time surpassing even one piece and jjk. But when it comes to the anime, y'know the rest of the case.
Also "direction" comes under the production too,
Even in the most of the genres, the production has carried it's popularity. Let's just ignore action, let's take slice of life. The bests of the slice of life animes have one thing in common, and that's a good production. That's the same for Kyoto Animation projects, they hold a reputable position for how they produce their anime and the quality of their production
altough they may not have the best stories but their production is responsible for making that story feel special to you. Speaking of Hayao Miyazaki, let's their example, studio ghibli films are carried by the production. Sounds like a hot opinion? but it's not, people just don't notice this. If you take away the production from his movies they wouldn't feel special at all, the plot and stories in itself aren't great, all the love which people have for ghibli films are because these movies feels beautiful and immersive to a beautiful fictional world. that is because of the artistic talent and vision of miyazaki and his direction which comes under production.
I would just suggest you to watch this 10 min vid and then share you counter opinion or otherwise we would just be aruging back and forth for hours and reach nowhere
It's a very good video which changed my opinion in how i viewed animes too
Story doesn't mean shit when the production is bad(altough in a very few exceptional cases story is too good for an average production to affect it), a bad production will always handicap the story in some way you have already seen badly produced shows being turned into shit despite it having crazy good writing and story, The most recent example is Blue Lock and uzumaki. You just never notice how important the production is.
Blue Lock and Haiykuu are both animes belonging from the same sports genre, blue have been the best selling manga of all time surpassing even one piece and jjk. But when it comes to the anime, y'know the rest of the case.
Also "direction" comes under the production too,
Even in the most of the genres, the production has carried it's popularity. Let's just ignore action, let's take slice of life. The bests of the slice of life animes have one thing in common, and that's a good production. That's the same for Kyoto Animation projects, they hold a reputable position for how they produce their anime and the quality of their production
altough they may not have the best stories but their production is responsible for making that story feel special to you. Speaking of Hayao Miyazaki, let's their example, studio ghibli films are carried by the production. Sounds like a hot opinion? but it's not, people just don't notice this. If you take away the production from his movies they wouldn't feel special at all, the plot and stories in itself aren't great, all the love which people have for ghibli films are because these movies feels beautiful and immersive to a beautiful fictional world. that is because of the artistic talent and vision of miyazaki and his direction which comes under production.
I would just suggest you to watch this 10 min vid and then share you counter opinion or otherwise we would just be aruging back and forth for hours and reach nowhere
It's a very good video which changed my opinion in how i viewed animes too
@LIVI___ Popularity doesn't equal quality. Is it every producer's dream? Idk. I'm a member of the audience. I consume what they produce. Popularity doesn't mean anything to me, at least in a meaningful way. Yes, something like Demon Slayer became extremely popular mainly due to its visuals, but the thing that really 'elevated' it was direction. The way they portrayed and directed it elevated the source material in a way that it made the story seem more interesting as well. Yet, you're missing the point. You say story doesn't mean shit if the production is bad: you're almost right, were it not for the fact that the story remains what it is no matter how you portray it. That's integral to any piece of visual entertainment that contains any semblance of narrative. A story doesn't have to be that interesting on paper in order to still be enjoyable, but the story is still central to what makes it good or bad anyway. I.E. Revenant (starring Leonardo DiCaprio) isn't complex. It's kind of bland on paper, actually; but the way it's directed and played by the actors makes it visceral and compelling. Still, the driving force of the film is contained in the plot. Not the filmmaking. A film is telling and showing you the story. It still has to be written in a way that it also works the way its portrayed in an adaptation, and vice versa. Point is, production doesn't matter more than story, because its purpose is to envisage it. Not supercede it. It doesn't need to be Demon Slayer in order to do that and be interesting, no matter how hard you try to suggest otherwise. It's only my opinion ofc, but no, I don't think pretty visuals and esoteric designs saved Darling in the Franxx from being a wad of horseshit, or Demon Slayer's flashy episodes from being mid. As controversial as Record of Ragnarok's anime is, I liked it a lot more than something like God of Highschool. Don't get me wrong, I don't fully agree with SCYTHER07, but at least their viewpoint is fair. If the story is good, that's all that matters in their eyes. On the other hand, since you're arguing for what's been presented (the opening), I find it weird that you think it's fair to criticize it the way you're implying. We haven't even seen the first episode yet. |
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