Ecchi(?)

Dec 30, 2024 4:42 AM

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FutoiOtaku

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It’s anime not hentai. Put some pants on!

Dec 30, 2024 4:50 AM

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It’s anime not hentai. Put some pants on!

@FutoiOtaku considering we just had 2.5 ririsa with censorship his question is legitimate.

Dec 30, 2024 5:10 AM

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FutoiOtaku

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Otakupervert890 said:
@FutoiOtaku considering we just had 2.5 ririsa with censorship his question is legitimate.

I’m not against ecchi but the desperation shown for a few 2D butts and boobs is pretty embarrassing. And why do you use the word censorship? It’s directorial choice. If a studio choose a particular level of nudity to be shown at prime time in Japan, that is a financial decision not censorship.

Dec 30, 2024 5:20 AM

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Otakupervert890 said:
@FutoiOtaku considering we just had 2.5 ririsa with censorship his question is legitimate.

I’m not against ecchi but the desperation shown for a few 2D butts and boobs is pretty embarrassing. And why do you use the word censorship? It’s directorial choice. If a studio choose a particular level of nudity to be shown at prime time in Japan, that is a financial decision not censorship.

@FutoiOtaku if said scene show nudity in the manga and not in the anime adaptation it's censorship plain and simple regardless the reason why it's done it. In the case of 2.5 the nudity was high time high in the early volumes to be dropped later on but on the adaptation they did the beginning like how it is since volume 6 so it's censorship regardless of what the director choose to do it. If they would have done with it steam to later remove them for the Blu Ray but we won't even have that.

Dec 30, 2024 5:42 AM

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Otakupervert890 said:
@FutoiOtaku if said scene show nudity in the manga and not in the anime adaptation it's censorship plain and simple regardless the reason why it's done it. In the case of 2.5 the nudity was high time high in the early volumes to be dropped later on but on the adaptation they did the beginning like how it is since volume 6 so it's censorship regardless of what the director choose to do it. If they would have done with it steam to later remove them for the Blu Ray but we won't even have that.

I agree in principle that a direct adaptation would be best, but that is not achievable in the real world. They do the best they can. And no, there is NO CENSORSHIP! It is only censorship when steam effects and light beams or simple black oblongs are used to cover things. The choice not to include things that may affect the age rating enough to reduce viewer numbers is NOT CENSORSHIP. Read a dictionary. It is simply altering the content. Adding an anime-only ending to a show is not censorship, it’s directing. Reducing nudity is the same. I would prefer if it was censored so that the uncensored version could be released on blu ray, but my quibble isn’t your disappointment but your misuse of the word censorship.

Dec 30, 2024 5:51 AM

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Otakupervert890 said:
@FutoiOtaku if said scene show nudity in the manga and not in the anime adaptation it's censorship plain and simple regardless the reason why it's done it. In the case of 2.5 the nudity was high time high in the early volumes to be dropped later on but on the adaptation they did the beginning like how it is since volume 6 so it's censorship regardless of what the director choose to do it. If they would have done with it steam to later remove them for the Blu Ray but we won't even have that.

I agree in principle that a direct adaptation would be best, but that is not achievable in the real world. They do the best they can. And no, there is NO CENSORSHIP! It is only censorship when steam effects and light beams or simple black oblongs are used to cover things. The choice not to include things that may affect the age rating enough to reduce viewer numbers is NOT CENSORSHIP. Read a dictionary. It is simply altering the content. Adding an anime-only ending to a show is not censorship, it’s directing. Reducing nudity is the same. I would prefer if it was censored so that the uncensored version could be released on blu ray, but my quibble isn’t your disappointment but your misuse of the word censorship.

@FutoiOtaku your right completely rewriting a book isn't censorship, but putting black bars over the words in the book is, our mistake oh great censorship king. Just stop embarrassing yourself honestly.

Dec 30, 2024 6:08 AM

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@FutoiOtaku your right completely rewriting a book isn't censorship, but putting black bars over the words in the book is, our mistake oh great censorship king. Just stop embarrassing yourself honestly.

I think you may look back when you grow up and realise what an asshole you were just now. And your summing up is pretty much correct apart from the extremist ‘complete rewrite’ bit. It is minor editing. Every time I engage in these discussions idiots like you bring down the IQ level. Come back in 20 years.

Dec 30, 2024 6:35 AM

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@FutoiOtaku your right completely rewriting a book isn't censorship, but putting black bars over the words in the book is, our mistake oh great censorship king. Just stop embarrassing yourself honestly.

I think you may look back when you grow up and realise what an asshole you were just now. And your summing up is pretty much correct apart from the extremist ‘complete rewrite’ bit. It is minor editing. Every time I engage in these discussions idiots like you bring down the IQ level. Come back in 20 years.

@FutoiOtaku Obfuscating your censorship is still censorship and always will be. Putting a black bar on a character is censorship but putting an even bigger piece of clothing in place of a black bar is not censorship? This is crazy talk. You think its ok because they are doing it to meet some sort of tv guidelines or age ratings? That is the very definition of censorship then. A system in which an authority limits the ideas that people are allowed to express and prevents books, films, works of art, documents, or other kinds of communication from being seen or made available to the public, because they include or support certain ideas. You can say its their own decision to perform this censorship to fit inside of the system, but its still censorship, and a much much more offensive form of censorship than just using light beams or black bars, because its censorship that insults the viewers intelligence by pretending to not be censorship.

Dec 30, 2024 6:46 AM

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niconiconii27 said:
@FutoiOtaku Obfuscating your censorship is still censorship and always will be. Putting a black bar on a character is censorship but putting an even bigger piece of clothing in place of a black bar is not censorship? This is crazy talk. You think its ok because they are doing it to meet some sort of tv guidelines or age ratings? That is the very definition of censorship then. A system in which an authority limits the ideas that people are allowed to express and prevents books, films, works of art, documents, or other kinds of communication from being seen or made available to the public, because they include or support certain ideas. You can say its their own decision to perform this censorship to fit inside of the system, but its still censorship, and a much much more offensive form of censorship than just using light beams or black bars, because its censorship that insults the viewers intelligence by pretending to not be censorship.

I’m not wasting any more time on this, your views are impractical and extreme and could not be adopted in reality without also allowing political and religious extremism, child porn and snuff videos to flood mainstream internet services. And again, you don’t understand the definition of censorship. If this was an example of such, the source material would be banned. It is an editorial decision to access a wider audience through small adjustments to the source whilst not changing the narrative in any way. Basically the nudity is relegated to the viewers’ imagination. Please don’t overreact so much, you can still read the manga.
And I’m not on the side of sanitising anime, I would watch a true adaptation gladly, I just live in the real world and understand how businesses work.

Dec 30, 2024 9:29 AM

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^I mean I don't agree fully with everything either one here is saying but, yeah..."altering it" in your own words is censoring when the altering is removing something. And of the two views here yours is definitely the more extreme. It's rated pg13 that's why they pulled back a little, and it was relatively little, on the nudity if it was even necessary since I'm not sure if they even show nipples in the manga. Covering the manga fully even if it has to be rated R, would not suddenly enable the slew of extreme media you suggested. And if you think those things haven't already flooded the Internet you're in for a surprise.

Dec 30, 2024 1:28 PM

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FutoiOtaku said:
It’s anime not hentai. Put some pants on!

"It’s anime not comedy, if you want to watch something funny watch standup" that’s how you sound, and yes it is censorship

Dec 30, 2024 2:19 PM

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niconiconii27 said:
@FutoiOtaku Obfuscating your censorship is still censorship and always will be. Putting a black bar on a character is censorship but putting an even bigger piece of clothing in place of a black bar is not censorship? This is crazy talk. You think its ok because they are doing it to meet some sort of tv guidelines or age ratings? That is the very definition of censorship then. A system in which an authority limits the ideas that people are allowed to express and prevents books, films, works of art, documents, or other kinds of communication from being seen or made available to the public, because they include or support certain ideas. You can say its their own decision to perform this censorship to fit inside of the system, but its still censorship, and a much much more offensive form of censorship than just using light beams or black bars, because its censorship that insults the viewers intelligence by pretending to not be censorship.

"oh my lord, how dare they transform a literary work that's composed of multiple parts other than the fact that there is nudity that would be inappropriate for children and sensitive audiences, all of whom would have access to the streaming platforms said transformed work would stream on? It is outrageous that I won't be able to see softcore or out right pornographic levels of nudity on a show that's not porn. By commercializing a product that might still be plenty titillating in order to make money and make the whole endeavor worthwhile, they are insulting my intelligence. This is equivalent to the book burnings."

Call it censorship if you want, technical terms or whatever. What's pathetic is your dismay at the proposition of there being "censorship". As in hating people for not drawing anime ass on a string for you, but putting panties on them cheeks and maybe a veil. The humanity...

Dec 30, 2024 8:55 PM

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Todday said:

FutoiOtaku said:
It’s anime not hentai. Put some pants on!

"It’s anime not comedy, if you want to watch something funny watch standup" that’s how you sound, and yes it is censorship

Be as smart an ass as you like, but try looking up censorship in a dictionary. There is no authority forcing the studio to subvert its message or suppress anything, the studio chose to sanitise the show for commercial gain. Go jack off to drawings of children elsewhere, your argument is invalid.

Jan 1, 6:20 PM

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one of the favorites it seems! recommended
This protagonist isn’t weak, and the harem is well-defined.
There are a few little controversies, haha, but the protagonist knows how to be ethical.
This anime is going to be a lot of fun!

Jan 4, 6:35 AM

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EasyAdv

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Just read manga and you will see how much ecchi is.
To say on short version: the level is low

Jan 7, 2:36 AM

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Ayakaxiao

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not enough to make your pen hard

Yesterday, 8:24 AM

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Zero0Two0

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i think it will show nothing

Yesterday, 10:52 AM

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It is Censored. They should removed the Ecchi tags with this kind of anime. It is misleading.

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No, this isn't ecchi and it baffles me that something like this got it (even if by mistake) while something like Sono Bisque Doll should have the tag but has never been added.

Yesterday, 4:05 PM

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one of the favorites it seems! recommended
This protagonist isn’t weak, and the harem is well-defined.
There are a few little controversies, haha, but the protagonist knows how to be ethical.
This anime is going to be a lot of fun!

@Mari_Marx Looking forward to it ;)

Yesterday, 4:32 PM

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I've read the manga and it not that ecchi of a series I'm surprised it was tag ecchi

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