I mean for those familiar with the source material, the web manga, presumably. I just found the synopsis and promotional material for this one somehow more vague and harder to read than is normally the case, with some confusing details. On the anime series' archival webpage on MAL it has "video game" listed as part of the themes? I take it this is not an isekai (it also doesn't list "isekai", but that doesn't necessarily mean anything as it's sometimes wrongly omitted as an oversight, but I also didn't get the sense that this was an isekai from the description and trailer), so I assume it's like a high fantasy world. But is it like a video game world or does gaming somehow otherwise tie into the plot?
It airs in only around a week from now, so I could just wait to see and watch it to hopefully clear up some of the mysteries and confusion and discover that way what type of series it looks like it's aiming to be the old-fashioned way, and I'll probably do just that and watch it anyway regardless (or give it a shot, basically), but again, it'd be nice if any fans could share an inkling of what to expect.
Nikola is just a village girl working at the inn...until the day dragons invade, and she meets Haga, a scholar of everything around him. He's a part of an elite society called "Seeker," created to address a series of maladies plaguing their usually peaceful world. But both Nikola and Haga have secrets they hide...ones that will change each other's very existence...
(Source: MAL description)
if you go to the manga page and go to the chapter 1 discussion you'll find out a spoiler about the series. I'll leave it at that since I don't know how to do the spoiler tag on mobile
Phantom1412 said: Nikola is just a village girl working at the inn...until the day dragons invade, and she meets Haga, a scholar of everything around him. He's a part of an elite society called "Seeker," created to address a series of maladies plaguing their usually peaceful world. But both Nikola and Haga have secrets they hide...ones that will change each other's very existence...
(Source: MAL description)
if you go to the manga page and go to the chapter 1 discussion you'll find out a spoiler about the series. I'll leave it at that since I don't know how to do the spoiler tag on mobile
Thanks - I read the synopsis already (I always do beforehand for everything I watch or may potentially watch), but regarding the web manga-related spoiler, if it's something like that then it definitely leaves me intrigued and I can only surmise and speculate with some head canon theories. I may peek into it or I may now just wait to be surprised.
You already put two and two together so reading again the official English title for this series might help you realize the true nature of Konofuka's world.
Well it is about debuggers trapped in a shitty game. While Our MC is the only one that still take his job seriously after a year and is trying find an escape. I find the series is rather interesting from the normal isekai trash we usually get. Trust me, I know isekai trash since it is my anime achilles' heel.
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I've been thinking about it and the premise that they are trapped in a VR game doesn't add up. They have been in there for years with no contact, but reported bugs do get fixed when possible. They should've been contacted or pulled out a long time ago, as there hasn't been any stated reason why the companies can't pull them out. A virtual world that size would be too expensive to hold hostages as the companies would go bankrupt, so any method to pull them out forcefully should've been tried. If they can fix bugs then they have to be able to insert messages into the game.
My suspicions are that
they aren't physically hooked up to a VR rig, but are virtual scans of their minds turned into AI. They may be running at a faster clock rate then reality, so they can spend all their time debugging.
Betonhaus said: I've been thinking about it and the premise that they are trapped in a VR game doesn't add up. They have been in there for years with no contact, but reported bugs do get fixed when possible. They should've been contacted or pulled out a long time ago, as there hasn't been any stated reason why the companies can't pull them out. A virtual world that size would be too expensive to hold hostages as the companies would go bankrupt, so any method to pull them out forcefully should've been tried. If they can fix bugs then they have to be able to insert messages into the game.
My suspicions are that
they aren't physically hooked up to a VR rig, but are virtual scans of their minds turned into AI. They may be running at a faster clock rate then reality, so they can spend all their time debugging.
I agree with you - both in the lingering feeling that too much isn't adding up from what we've been told and your proposed theory. It's probably that or something like that. And I consider myself a "passive viewer" who typically prefers the passive viewing experience so just prefer to go where the show takes me and don't normally either overly speculate or theorize midstream myself or read other viewers' and fans' theories and guesses, especially regarding a series with any element of mystery at all. But too much here was starting to bother me and seem like a lot of inconsistencies and conflicting information. So I started to get worried. Worried in that I hoped (and still do) it's something more elaborately thought out or at least semi-coherent and plausible like that and not just major plot holes and poor writing.
I like the
cloned minds theory because it's similar to examples of that phenomenon in a few other series I've seen, both in and outside of anime, and is a good way for a duplicate version of a person to exist with all their full memories and personality intact until up to the point they were separated while being detached from their original physical body. Whether it's a digitized consciousness uploaded to a computer server or other electronic device or some astral projection or spirit/soul split into another dimension or whatever. And in these stories the original person and their physical body can go on living their life in ignorant bliss completely unaware this is happening and that there is a second version of themselves out there experiencing this.
I am sorry to disappoint you guys, but a single season of this anime won't give you any definite answers about the biggest mysteries surrounding the game's world.
Avvenirista said: I am sorry to disappoint you guys, but a single season of this anime won't give you any definite answers about the biggest mysteries surrounding the game's world.
I'm not really expecting one. I mean, whether it revealed anything consequential at or toward the end or not it wouldn't really surprise me either way. They may reveal nothing or next to nothing and save that for a future hypothetical second season, may reveal nothing and then never have another season and remain unfinished forever, or may shoehorn in an anime original ending and never have another season.
But regardless, whether or not I decide to continue with this series and watch any second season if they have one, really depends on what they do with and the direction they take the remaining half of the episodes available. So far I have been very intrigued by the premise and potential of this series pretty much from the first or from even before it began, but underwhelmed with the execution.
Avvenirista said: I am sorry to disappoint you guys, but a single season of this anime won't give you any definite answers about the biggest mysteries surrounding the game's world.
I'm not really expecting one. I mean, whether it revealed anything consequential at or toward the end or not it wouldn't really surprise me either way. They may reveal nothing or next to nothing and save that for a future hypothetical second season, may reveal nothing and then never have another season and remain unfinished forever, or may shoehorn in an anime original ending and never have another season.
But regardless, whether or not I decide to continue with this series and watch any second season if they have one, really depends on what they do with and the direction they take the remaining half of the episodes available. So far I have been very intrigued by the premise and potential of this series pretty much from the first or from even before it began, but underwhelmed with the execution.
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The one thing that I can confidently tell you about this series is that Haga's adventure becomes increasingly interesting as the story progresses.
Avvenirista said: The one thing that I can confidently tell you about this series is that Haga's adventure becomes increasingly interesting as the story progresses.
That's reassuring, at least.
Out of the 11 new seasonals I'm watching this summer season, I will say that, despite any issues or complaints I have with it, this is still one of the ones week to week which I most look forward to the next episode of or choose to watch sooner than a lot of others when I have episodes backed up (behind a few days) from most of the series I'm watching. Like at least in the top half. Simply on premise alone it's more interesting than some others.
Betonhaus said: I've been thinking about it and the premise that they are trapped in a VR game doesn't add up. They have been in there for years with no contact, but reported bugs do get fixed when possible. They should've been contacted or pulled out a long time ago, as there hasn't been any stated reason why the companies can't pull them out. A virtual world that size would be too expensive to hold hostages as the companies would go bankrupt, so any method to pull them out forcefully should've been tried. If they can fix bugs then they have to be able to insert messages into the game.
My suspicions are that
they aren't physically hooked up to a VR rig, but are virtual scans of their minds turned into AI. They may be running at a faster clock rate then reality, so they can spend all their time debugging.
I agree with you - both in the lingering feeling that too much isn't adding up from what we've been told and your proposed theory. It's probably that or something like that. And I consider myself a "passive viewer" who typically prefers the passive viewing experience so just prefer to go where the show takes me and don't normally either overly speculate or theorize midstream myself or read other viewers' and fans' theories and guesses, especially regarding a series with any element of mystery at all. But too much here was starting to bother me and seem like a lot of inconsistencies and conflicting information. So I started to get worried. Worried in that I hoped (and still do) it's something more elaborately thought out or at least semi-coherent and plausible like that and not just major plot holes and poor writing.
I like the
cloned minds theory because it's similar to examples of that phenomenon in a few other series I've seen, both in and outside of anime, and is a good way for a duplicate version of a person to exist with all their full memories and personality intact until up to the point they were separated while being detached from their original physical body. Whether it's a digitized consciousness uploaded to a computer server or other electronic device or some astral projection or spirit/soul split into another dimension or whatever. And in these stories the original person and their physical body can go on living their life in ignorant bliss completely unaware this is happening and that there is a second version of themselves out there experiencing this.
Betonhaus said: I've been thinking about it and the premise that they are trapped in a VR game doesn't add up. They have been in there for years with no contact, but reported bugs do get fixed when possible. They should've been contacted or pulled out a long time ago, as there hasn't been any stated reason why the companies can't pull them out. A virtual world that size would be too expensive to hold hostages as the companies would go bankrupt, so any method to pull them out forcefully should've been tried. If they can fix bugs then they have to be able to insert messages into the game.
My suspicions are that
they aren't physically hooked up to a VR rig, but are virtual scans of their minds turned into AI. They may be running at a faster clock rate then reality, so they can spend all their time debugging.
I agree with you - both in the lingering feeling that too much isn't adding up from what we've been told and your proposed theory. It's probably that or something like that. And I consider myself a "passive viewer" who typically prefers the passive viewing experience so just prefer to go where the show takes me and don't normally either overly speculate or theorize midstream myself or read other viewers' and fans' theories and guesses, especially regarding a series with any element of mystery at all. But too much here was starting to bother me and seem like a lot of inconsistencies and conflicting information. So I started to get worried. Worried in that I hoped (and still do) it's something more elaborately thought out or at least semi-coherent and plausible like that and not just major plot holes and poor writing.
I like the
cloned minds theory because it's similar to examples of that phenomenon in a few other series I've seen, both in and outside of anime, and is a good way for a duplicate version of a person to exist with all their full memories and personality intact until up to the point they were separated while being detached from their original physical body. Whether it's a digitized consciousness uploaded to a computer server or other electronic device or some astral projection or spirit/soul split into another dimension or whatever. And in these stories the original person and their physical body can go on living their life in ignorant bliss completely unaware this is happening and that there is a second version of themselves out there experiencing this.
Yeah there does seem to be a few points where it would've made sense to have a little detail if things could be taken at face value.
when the bad guys got frozen by leaving the castle without the patdown, they got shoved by the leader which shows they could've been moved back into the castle and maybe unfrozen by being patted down. and when the leader came back from the dead, they had an opportunity to ask him about his experience - if he had been conscious but stuck with a dead avatar he could've been traumatized and highly adverse to anything dangerous. him being fine makes it seems like he barely noticed being dead, as if no time at all passed