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Jun 17, 5:37 AM
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With S2 near its end, I would like to discuss, how we could expect the remaining (more than half) of the volumes to be adapted in seasons (if this series truly gets a full adaptation).
Note: I wanted to put this on the anime thread, but it would probably get closed since it would discuss things ahead. Also, I have never progressed past volume 18, but I spoiled myself on enough points long ago with the illustrations (and read the wiki), that I get a feeling towards key parts.

In short: (edited this part, S4 could be 26 eps and still be decent)
- S3: vol.13-15, 13 episodes (rush a bit on vol13) [2025-2026?]
- S4: vol.16-21, 25 episodes (2 cour) [2027-2029?]
- S5: vol.22-26, 28 episodes [2030-2031, maybe 2031-2032 ]
- S5b: Redundancy volumes [2033?? if the series is still popular enough by then]

My reasoning:
I think a proper adaptation of the remaining LN volumes would be a Season 3 that would be ONLY 13 episodes long, adapting vol.13-15, they can rush a bit more on vol.13 and some parts of 14, and it would be CLIMATIC to end season 3 with Orsted fight and Eris coming back, I don't feel S3 should be 24 episodes because vol.17 wouldn't be as climatic, and vol.18 is even worst.

A possible S4 would adapt from vol.16 till vol.21, it would get 25 episodes, 6 LN volumes would cover it nicely, I think volume 22 would be an amazing point to end season 4, but it would make it an LN vol. longer, and they wouldn't bother doing 39 episodes (and I wished each 12eps adapted 2 volumes instead).

Then a final 5th Season to adapt 22-26, 28 episodes. (give it a bit more fat it is the end, don't rush it, you fuckers)
If by 2032 people still want more, there would be the redundancy stuff, I put the possible dates there, to also bring to discussion that a full proper adaptation at BEST would end in 2031-2032 (which is INSANE and leaves me down a bit), and this is me being hopeful that S3 would come in either at the end of 2025 or the beginning of 2026! (I do feel AI could revolutionize the industry and thus changing such predictions by a lot, but lets not consider that factor for this)

This is my suggestion because the end of a season has to be MEMORABLE, a highlight in the journey of Rudeous, and I feel this would be it.

ALSO, the director would have to be changed for S3, for fuck sake, it is not only about the quality of animation but execution and being able to translate properly to anime, and for the most part, the director of S1 did a much better job directing, than either directors of S2 (Orsted scene in S1 was changed greatly (the scenario) from LN and manga, but worked so well nonetheless, the director had a vision that was WORTH IT, not being shackled from the source but enhancing it further).
The Hydra fight felt cinematic but it could have been a bit better, and have even more impact... WE NEED IMPACT for the plot twist at the end of volume 14 and a good part of volume 15.
If we get further seasons and they are only doing a decent job translating so anime viewers can enjoy, it would be such a waste.

I'm interested in seeing what others think of this.
PlaycoolJun 30, 2:50 AM
Jun 17, 8:54 AM
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In the end, it don't matter

logical would be
season 3 part 1: 13-15
season 3 part 2: 16-18
season 4 part 1: 19-22
season 4 part 2: 23-26

Also this anime adaptation is fucking good, in most cases better than the ln. The only thing they rlly messed up on is that Rudy's supposed to have met his aunt. The other cut content is either filler or are minor details to explain stuff in the story (Like paul's sword in the latest episode and how he was the only one who could cut off the heads of the hydra).
But I feel like the anime adds more than it takes away from the volumes.
Jun 17, 11:56 AM
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In the end, it don't matter

logical would be
season 3 part 1: 13-15
season 3 part 2: 16-18
season 4 part 1: 19-22
season 4 part 2: 23-26

Also this anime adaptation is fucking good, in most cases better than the ln. The only thing they rlly messed up on is that Rudy's supposed to have met his aunt. The other cut content is either filler or are minor details to explain stuff in the story (Like paul's sword in the latest episode and how he was the only one who could cut off the heads of the hydra).
But I feel like the anime adds more than it takes away from the volumes.
R0r5ch4ch said:
In the end, it don't matter


How it doesn't? If you end S3, with volume 18 it wouldn't feel proper, climaxes should be left for the end for a good reason.
S2 is doing that, the climax has not ended yet, the dust is only settled when we see the graveyard scene.

R0r5ch4ch said:
Also this anime adaptation is fucking good, in most cases better than the ln.

And WHERE in S2 have you seen that? I would argue that ep9 of part 1 was really good, but the rest I feel they are just not putting that much effort, outside the designs now being consistent vs parts of S2 Part 1.

What saves the anime adaptation is the quality of the source material, because by its own standards, aside a few episodes, the director is NOT doing enough, probably because he also lacks the talent of S1's.

A competent adaptation that just wants to go through the motions, doesn't mean it is a GOOD adaptation, S1 was. This is decent, it is NOT bad, but we have seen enough examples of better LN adaptations, ala S1 of this, Rezero S1 and S2, and more recently 86.

The kind of being that this series is, the fact that they created a fucking studios to adapt it... it just deserved more, and I m not even addressing the cut content or the fact Rudy character design is still too childish, and he looks way older by this point on the LN.
Jun 17, 12:39 PM
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what I'm trying to say with that first alinea is that there's no point arguing over this as it's not in your hands.

There's no point trying to end on climactic moments if it means rushing through chapters.

As for the anime adaptation, it takes away stuff frol the novels, of course it does no other anime doesn't, but it also adds to it.
Like paul's sword talk 2 ep ago, or Rudy and Roxy shopping.

The main focus for this adaptation is to make sure the viewers understand the essence of the story, and they're doing a good job with that.

Adapting the source material letter by letter is simply impossible, so stop crying about it not being an exact copy.
Jun 17, 4:10 PM
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Based on your scenario, I feel like season 4 should be 16-21 instead of 16-22. The ending of 21 makes far more sense for an ending of a season, and 22-26 is much more fitting for the final season since they all fit together seamlessly I would say.

With what I would probably want, this is how it would go:

Season 3 - Volumes 13-15
Season 4 - Volumes 16-21 (can break them into two cours of 16-18, 19-21 if the anime staff want to do so)
Season 5 - Volumes 22-26 (can be done as one whole 2-cour season since it is the final one)

Depends ultimately on what the anime staff chooses to do but for me, this is my fantasy booking of how I would structure remaining volumes into seasons.
Jun 18, 1:04 PM
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In the end, it don't matter

logical would be
season 3 part 1: 13-15
season 3 part 2: 16-18
season 4 part 1: 19-22
season 4 part 2: 23-26

Also this anime adaptation is fucking good, in most cases better than the ln. The only thing they rlly messed up on is that Rudy's supposed to have met his aunt. The other cut content is either filler or are minor details to explain stuff in the story (Like paul's sword in the latest episode and how he was the only one who could cut off the heads of the hydra).
But I feel like the anime adds more than it takes away from the volumes.
@R0r5ch4ch i think this adaptation would be best, even according to the OP's standards of "make it climactic"
it's also coming from a guy who hasn't read 19 or above so i'm taking his opinion with a grain of salt
Jun 18, 1:25 PM
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Phjsh said:
@R0r5ch4ch i think this adaptation would be best, even according to the OP's standards of "make it climactic"
it's also coming from a guy who hasn't read 19 or above so i'm taking his opinion with a grain of salt

I know a lot of people who drop it around vol 19-21. Can't blame you.
It does get better when final turning point hits tho
Jun 18, 2:14 PM
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ideally, it would be:

S3: vol 13-17, ~16-20 ep
S4: vol 18-21, 12 ep
S5: vol 22-26, 24 ep

this is the way I PERSONALLY see the arcs being grouped up by the studio, and based on the story itself i think that’s the way it would make the most sense. i doubt the redundant reincarnation novels will be adapted tho unfortunately
Jun 18, 2:15 PM
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animejas said:
Based on your scenario, I feel like season 4 should be 16-21 instead of 16-22. The ending of 21 makes far more sense for an ending of a season, and 22-26 is much more fitting for the final season since they all fit together seamlessly I would say.

With what I would probably want, this is how it would go:

Season 3 - Volumes 13-15
Season 4 - Volumes 16-21 (can break them into two cours of 16-18, 19-21 if the anime staff want to do so)
Season 5 - Volumes 22-26 (can be done as one whole 2-cour season since it is the final one)

Depends ultimately on what the anime staff chooses to do but for me, this is my fantasy booking of how I would structure remaining volumes into seasons.

i think they will most likely keep the 15-17 storyline going in the same season. it makes more sense to me anyways.
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animejas said:
Based on your scenario, I feel like season 4 should be 16-21 instead of 16-22. The ending of 21 makes far more sense for an ending of a season, and 22-26 is much more fitting for the final season since they all fit together seamlessly I would say.

With what I would probably want, this is how it would go:

Season 3 - Volumes 13-15
Season 4 - Volumes 16-21 (can break them into two cours of 16-18, 19-21 if the anime staff want to do so)
Season 5 - Volumes 22-26 (can be done as one whole 2-cour season since it is the final one)

Depends ultimately on what the anime staff chooses to do but for me, this is my fantasy booking of how I would structure remaining volumes into seasons.

i think they will most likely keep the 15-17 storyline going in the same season. it makes more sense to me anyways.
@Er1kAnderson I mean, I don't see the anime doing 13 and 14 only for 1 cour. If they choose to adapt 5 volumes for season 3 continuously for like 25-26 episodes (13-17), then that would make more sense. Otherwise, I feel like 15 is a much better ending point since the stuff after that is a pretty big shift in his life which will make more sense with the start of a new cour.
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animejas said:
@Er1kAnderson I mean, I don't see the anime doing 13 and 14 only for 1 cour. If they choose to adapt 5 volumes for season 3 continuously for like 25-26 episodes (13-17), then that would make more sense. Otherwise, I feel like 15 is a much better ending point since the stuff after that is a pretty big shift in his life which will make more sense with the start of a new cour.

yea you’re probably right… 13 and 16 are pretty light, but 14 and especially 15 and 17 will need more episodes fs. really looking forward to volume 15 especially 😁
Jun 23, 11:18 AM
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@Er1kAnderson I mean, I don't see the anime doing 13 and 14 only for 1 cour. If they choose to adapt 5 volumes for season 3 continuously for like 25-26 episodes (13-17), then that would make more sense. Otherwise, I feel like 15 is a much better ending point since the stuff after that is a pretty big shift in his life which will make more sense with the start of a new cour.
@animejas Yep, and I m very close to finishing vol.19, vol.17 was no way a proper way to end a possible S3, neither is vol.18, neither is vol.19, you need truly memorable climaxes that have a huge impact.
I say Vol. 22 is good cuz the big fight it has, would be a memorable way to end a season, finally seeing Roxy and Eris fighting together with Rudy.

R0r5ch4ch said:
I know a lot of people who drop it around vol 19-21. Can't blame you.
It does get better when final turning point hits tho

Even the highest volume was still fun (vol.18), since the plot always feels moving, something is happening, I don't feel there is a boring volume that would be the sole reason to have you drop it.
20-21 is church stuff with Zenith family, there is still stuff I m looking forward to see there, before the plot goes to its final stages.

Phjsh said:
it's also coming from a guy who hasn't read 19 or above so i'm taking his opinion with a grain of salt

It is not like volume 19 was revolutionary, I preferred vol.17, and I m almost finishing reading vol.19, it is good and all, but I fail to see your point, still not a way to end a climatic scene (with only Roxy, Rudeous and Zanoba?!).
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I don't really remember when arcs started and finished, but 3 volumes per cour seems a decent choice (even if this part 2 is running a bit but whatevs). I'd say we'll be lucky if it goes on like this, of course IF the anime's gonna going till the end of the original 26 volumes. I'm sadisfied enough with the novels, but seeing the next part as the peak of Mushoku story i just wanna see it adapted very well. I don't expect S1 quality to ever come back tho.
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I don't really remember when arcs started and finished, but 3 volumes per cour seems a decent choice (even if this part 2 is running a bit but whatevs). I'd say we'll be lucky if it goes on like this, of course IF the anime's gonna going till the end of the original 26 volumes. I'm sadisfied enough with the novels, but seeing the next part as the peak of Mushoku story i just wanna see it adapted very well. I don't expect S1 quality to ever come back tho.
Hebi_op said:
I don't really remember when arcs started and finished, but 3 volumes per cour seems a decent choice (even if this part 2 is running a bit but whatevs).

Really is not, I ended up enjoying the final episodes, but there are enough people calling out all extra juicy stuff they have missed out, and don't forget they cut out the desert part of volume 12.
I really wish it was 2 volumes per 12 episodes, more and more we see adaptions getting that, and it works! Doubt we would get it thought.

Welll in the future I can always tell them AI to take the source of MT anime series and the LN, and deliver extra juicy content with 2 volumes per 12 episodes, same art style and everything else, and press try again until I get something decent!!!
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Hebi_op said:
I don't really remember when arcs started and finished, but 3 volumes per cour seems a decent choice (even if this part 2 is running a bit but whatevs).

Really is not, I ended up enjoying the final episodes, but there are enough people calling out all extra juicy stuff they have missed out, and don't forget they cut out the desert part of volume 12.
I really wish it was 2 volumes per 12 episodes, more and more we see adaptions getting that, and it works! Doubt we would get it thought.

Welll in the future I can always tell them AI to take the source of MT anime series and the LN, and deliver extra juicy content with 2 volumes per 12 episodes, same art style and everything else, and press try again until I get something decent!!!
@Playcool I understand and i don't want to say i don't agree lol, but seeing a lot of novels having 4-5 volumes adapted in a single cour, i see 3 as fair enough. I don't starve for a perfect adaptation, the novel is so good that a good work is fine enough for me, and s2p2 is good enough to sadisfy me.
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R0r5ch4ch said:
In the end, it don't matter

logical would be
season 3 part 1: 13-15
season 3 part 2: 16-18
season 4 part 1: 19-22
season 4 part 2: 23-26

Also this anime adaptation is fucking good, in most cases better than the ln. The only thing they rlly messed up on is that Rudy's supposed to have met his aunt. The other cut content is either filler or are minor details to explain stuff in the story (Like paul's sword in the latest episode and how he was the only one who could cut off the heads of the hydra).
But I feel like the anime adds more than it takes away from the volumes.

anime adaptation will never be better, it skips content which could be there but isn't
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TLeey_ said:
R0r5ch4ch said:
In the end, it don't matter

logical would be
season 3 part 1: 13-15
season 3 part 2: 16-18
season 4 part 1: 19-22
season 4 part 2: 23-26

Also this anime adaptation is fucking good, in most cases better than the ln. The only thing they rlly messed up on is that Rudy's supposed to have met his aunt. The other cut content is either filler or are minor details to explain stuff in the story (Like paul's sword in the latest episode and how he was the only one who could cut off the heads of the hydra).
But I feel like the anime adds more than it takes away from the volumes.

anime adaptation will never be better, it skips content which could be there but isn't

when I wrote this I should've phrased differently.
I meant that cdrtain scenes/chapters were better in the anime.
It'll never truly rival the novels

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