The Armed Detective Agency is actually weak?

May 8, 2024 4:48 PM

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eWEQRW123123 said:
Overall, the Armed Detective Agency has low combat power and is mostly suited for support.

And yet, in the end, they’re always victorious.

May 8, 2024 4:58 PM

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Eleben said:

eWEQRW123123 said:
Overall, the Armed Detective Agency has low combat power and is mostly suited for support.

And yet, in the end, they’re always victorious.

Actually right there.

May 8, 2024 4:58 PM

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eWEQRW123123 said:
The vast majority of the agency has poor combat powers. They are far more suited for support than combat. I think the show largely overplays how strong the agency is.

Dazai: his power to nullify abilities only gives him an advantage over ability users. Against normal people, he has no advantage. He's not much different than a normal person.

Doppo: his power is more for utility rather than combat. Due to the limitation of only being able to draw notepad-sized items, he mainly can only draw guns and grenades for combat. This doesn't make him much different from a normal person.

Kenji: he has superhuman strength but he doesn't seem strong. He was easily defeated by other ability users multiple times. I haven't seen him beat another ability user (by himself) once.

Junichirou: Largely a support ability. Has little offensive power.

Akiko: she can heal injuries but other than that, her strength is equivalent to a normal person. This was seen in her fight against the Bomber where she was easily defeated at first and only won by taking him by surprise.

Ranpo: no combat powers

Atsushi: ironically, the strongest member of the agency (excluding the boss). He has high regeneration, super speed, super strength, and claws.

Overall, the Armed Detective Agency has low combat power and is mostly suited for support.

that might be true but I wouldn't say poor combat power since by utilizing all of their abilities, combat power is a joke.

May 8, 2024 6:14 PM

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this show isn't about raw strength. it's more about mind games as the detective agency never aims to kill or harm anyone, I can be avoided, but just wants to protect the city.
if you think the armed detective agency was supposed to be strong then you have somehow heavily mistaken this show and I suggest you rewatch it.
but yeah the agency is rather weak in terms of raw combat power but excels in other areas :D

May 8, 2024 6:23 PM

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Well Dazai and Ranpo are both incredibly smart and tactical so that makes up for they’re weaker abilities/no abilities

May 8, 2024 6:24 PM

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Kenji is actually very strong when he gives it his all, as shown in season 5. He would probably beat most characters if it wasn't his personality, except those who have an advantage against his power like Dazai and Chuuya or are simply overpowered.

May 8, 2024 6:32 PM

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Its all about the mind

May 8, 2024 7:42 PM

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The Armed Detective Agency's main job is as a detective agency that investigates criminal cases, both involving ordinary crimes and cases involving supernatural forces. Although not all members of The Armed Detective Agency have the same motivations or act in traditional ways like heroes, they often perform heroic acts to protect society from threats and crime.

Therefore, in certain contexts, they can be called heroes because of their efforts to maintain the peace and security of the city, as well as helping people in need.

Apart from administration, their work is also almost the same as heroes in other anime worlds, including;

1. Fight against various criminal organizations.

2. Investigate criminal cases.

3. Helping people in need, including the victims.

4. Maintain peace in the city.

5. And fight powerful enemies.

From the explanation above, i can conclude that they are very strong and busy. But not in the sense of having to be strong like Saitama OPM.😗

May 8, 2024 8:46 PM

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Pablo_Neruda1 said:
that might be true but I wouldn't say poor combat power since by utilizing all of their abilities, combat power is a joke.

Not really. Without Atsushi, they are quite weak and Kenji is their only frontline. I see the rest of the team as backline support while Kenji as the frontline. If they defeat Kenji or keep him busy, they can easily reach the backline and defeat the rest of the team.

holo-simp said:
this show isn't about raw strength. it's more about mind games as the detective agency never aims to kill or harm anyone, I can be avoided, but just wants to protect the city.
if you think the armed detective agency was supposed to be strong then you have somehow heavily mistaken this show and I suggest you rewatch it.
but yeah the agency is rather weak in terms of raw combat power but excels in other areas :D

Phantom_373 said:
Well Dazai and Ranpo are both incredibly smart and tactical so that makes up for they’re weaker abilities/no abilities

Being able to raid bases with a few people and survive Port Mafia attacks just doesn't add up though.

Mainnus said:
Its all about the mind

Or the plot armor.

People with low average anime scores don't have high standards. They are just bad at choosing good anime to watch.

May 8, 2024 8:52 PM

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eWEQRW123123 said:

Pablo_Neruda1 said:
that might be true but I wouldn't say poor combat power since by utilizing all of their abilities, combat power is a joke.

Not really. Without Atsushi, they are quite weak and Kenji is their only frontline. I see the rest of the team as backline support while Kenji as the frontline. If they defeat Kenji or keep him busy, they can easily reach the backline and defeat the rest of the team.

holo-simp said:
this show isn't about raw strength. it's more about mind games as the detective agency never aims to kill or harm anyone, I can be avoided, but just wants to protect the city.
if you think the armed detective agency was supposed to be strong then you have somehow heavily mistaken this show and I suggest you rewatch it.
but yeah the agency is rather weak in terms of raw combat power but excels in other areas :D

Phantom_373 said:
Well Dazai and Ranpo are both incredibly smart and tactical so that makes up for they’re weaker abilities/no abilities

Being able to raid bases with a few people and survive Port Mafia attacks just doesn't add up though.

Mainnus said:
Its all about the mind

Or the plot armor.

doesn't matter. they find someway to make up for the so called "low combat power" which is one of the reasons the anime is damn peak.

May 8, 2024 8:53 PM

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eWEQRW123123 said:

Pablo_Neruda1 said:
that might be true but I wouldn't say poor combat power since by utilizing all of their abilities, combat power is a joke.

Not really. Without Atsushi, they are quite weak and Kenji is their only frontline. I see the rest of the team as backline support while Kenji as the frontline. If they defeat Kenji or keep him busy, they can easily reach the backline and defeat the rest of the team.

holo-simp said:
this show isn't about raw strength. it's more about mind games as the detective agency never aims to kill or harm anyone, I can be avoided, but just wants to protect the city.
if you think the armed detective agency was supposed to be strong then you have somehow heavily mistaken this show and I suggest you rewatch it.
but yeah the agency is rather weak in terms of raw combat power but excels in other areas :D

Phantom_373 said:
Well Dazai and Ranpo are both incredibly smart and tactical so that makes up for they’re weaker abilities/no abilities

Being able to raid bases with a few people and survive Port Mafia attacks just doesn't add up though.

Mainnus said:
Its all about the mind

Or the plot armor.

doesn't matter. they find someway to make up for the so called "low combat power" which is one of the reasons the anime is damn peak.

@Pablo_Neruda1 It's called plot armor.

People with low average anime scores don't have high standards. They are just bad at choosing good anime to watch.

May 8, 2024 8:55 PM

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eWEQRW123123 said:
@Pablo_Neruda1 It's called plot armor.

well, call it whatever you want.

May 8, 2024 8:57 PM

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I mean in terms of "anime" strength sure there relatively weak but as an organisation in bsd they are relatively powerfull. just because they only have one or two people that have offensive ability's doesn't matter when they have the intellect of both ranpo and dazai also as I'm typing this you completely missed kyouka ??? she's got a pretty powerfull ability that's quite literally an offensive power. sure a few of them are weak on there own but that's why their a part of a group

May 8, 2024 9:02 PM

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I mean in terms of "anime" strength sure there relatively weak but as an organisation in bsd they are relatively powerfull. just because they only have one or two people that have offensive ability's doesn't matter when they have the intellect of both ranpo and dazai also as I'm typing this you completely missed kyouka ??? she's got a pretty powerfull ability that's quite literally an offensive power. sure a few of them are weak on there own but that's why their a part of a group

@Xjebtvybrhfye

Nah. Compared to Port Mafia and the Guild, they are far weaker in terms of combat power.

I've only seen up to Season 2.

People with low average anime scores don't have high standards. They are just bad at choosing good anime to watch.

May 8, 2024 9:04 PM

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eWEQRW123123 said:
@Xjebtvybrhfye

Nah. Compared to Port Mafia and the Guild, they are far weaker in terms of combat power.

I've only seen up to Season 2.

yeah ok just a heads up if you have seen less than half the show don't make a post about how the main group are weak

May 8, 2024 9:08 PM

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@eWEQRW123123
for some who yapps so much details, you're awful dum,
you may have been right, if we ware talking about a power fantasy anime, ware charcters constantly needs to gain level or new power up or techniques. to defeat monster/ villain's, to save the world or survive.

but this is a totally different world building that's not a power fantasy, and with different settings, it's supernatural, superpower, Deactivate, Mystery. Where brains matter more than bronze.

And speaking about Dazai, like his worth less fighting normally person. he can finish the fight before it even starts if he fought a normal person. with his intelligence.

To debunk every point you made, it takes too much time, and i don't have it, your claims and your thinking are one sided, on this matter.

Although their are not 'OVER POWERED' and i do agree that, The some of the agency has poor combat powers than the guild and mafiya, that's because they are detective agency, not some shayd under ground thugs.

but they are farm form weak. And they do have more than a single op character, that you'll see in the in the upcoming season,

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May 8, 2024 9:47 PM

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Something something "Weak is the one who relies on brute strength akone" something.

May 8, 2024 11:46 PM

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It would be pretty boring if every member of the Agency was a heavy. Kenji, Fukuzawa, Atsushi, and Kyouka are heavies, not sure why you’re saying Kenji isn’t strong.

Kunikida being able to summon grenades does actually make him quite a bit stronger than a normal person.

Yosano being able to essentially come back from the dead makes her a good matchup for anyone with combat abilities that don’t enhance physical strength.

Dazai is weak against normal humans, which is why the agency doesn’t have him fight normal humans solo.

Tanizaki’s ability is extremely strong in combat and defense, it lets him get sneak attacks on basically anyone, and escape basically anyone.

Ranpo is just a normal guy in combat, but the show never makes him seem stronger than he is.

Of these members, only Dazai and Ranpo don’t have powers that enhance their combat abilities. If these characters were in front of a firing squad, only Kunikida, Dazai, and Ranpo would die. They’re strong af.

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May 9, 2024 12:54 AM

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eWEQRW123123 said:

Pablo_Neruda1 said:
that might be true but I wouldn't say poor combat power since by utilizing all of their abilities, combat power is a joke.

Not really. Without Atsushi, they are quite weak and Kenji is their only frontline. I see the rest of the team as backline support while Kenji as the frontline. If they defeat Kenji or keep him busy, they can easily reach the backline and defeat the rest of the team.

holo-simp said:
this show isn't about raw strength. it's more about mind games as the detective agency never aims to kill or harm anyone, I can be avoided, but just wants to protect the city.
if you think the armed detective agency was supposed to be strong then you have somehow heavily mistaken this show and I suggest you rewatch it.
but yeah the agency is rather weak in terms of raw combat power but excels in other areas :D

Phantom_373 said:
Well Dazai and Ranpo are both incredibly smart and tactical so that makes up for they’re weaker abilities/no abilities

Being able to raid bases with a few people and survive Port Mafia attacks just doesn't add up though.

Mainnus said:
Its all about the mind

Or the plot armor.

port mafia have never ever fully gone to obliterate the agency. for example, during the cannibalism arc, chuuya only sent a message when he went to the agency's secret base and didn't fully attack them. most of the time they actually require the help of other people. and it just so happens that one of the strongest port mafia members is a simp for Dazai which does help.

I must say although I disagree with everything else you've said, I do agree that this show does have a major problem about plot armour and it's inability to do anything to the main cast of characters; you can see them die again and again but somehow they'll come back.

May 9, 2024 1:18 AM

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Was to pointing out the agency true strength, the plot armor stuff is a whole other conversation.

May 9, 2024 1:40 AM

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@eWEQRW123123 dude just watch some battle shonen, this show isnt about brute strength or physical combat. And its better you watch all the content before you scale their powers. This aint an isekai with an overpowered mc from day 1.

May 9, 2024 2:03 AM

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i think it's the main reason bungo stray dogs is so amazing i mean you don't have to be always strong the majority of the fights in the show rely on strategic fights and team works all every character have there own incredibly unique powers and we can see some of the best and unique fights in this show that's why i love bungo stray dogs so much

May 9, 2024 2:21 AM

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eWEQRW123123 said:

Pablo_Neruda1 said:
that might be true but I wouldn't say poor combat power since by utilizing all of their abilities, combat power is a joke.

Not really. Without Atsushi, they are quite weak and Kenji is their only frontline. I see the rest of the team as backline support while Kenji as the frontline. If they defeat Kenji or keep him busy, they can easily reach the backline and defeat the rest of the team.

holo-simp said:
this show isn't about raw strength. it's more about mind games as the detective agency never aims to kill or harm anyone, I can be avoided, but just wants to protect the city.
if you think the armed detective agency was supposed to be strong then you have somehow heavily mistaken this show and I suggest you rewatch it.
but yeah the agency is rather weak in terms of raw combat power but excels in other areas :D

Phantom_373 said:
Well Dazai and Ranpo are both incredibly smart and tactical so that makes up for they’re weaker abilities/no abilities

Being able to raid bases with a few people and survive Port Mafia attacks just doesn't add up though.

Mainnus said:
Its all about the mind

Or the plot armor.

port mafia have never ever fully gone to obliterate the agency. for example, during the cannibalism arc, chuuya only sent a message when he went to the agency's secret base and didn't fully attack them. most of the time they actually require the help of other people. and it just so happens that one of the strongest port mafia members is a simp for Dazai which does help.

I must say although I disagree with everything else you've said, I do agree that this show does have a major problem about plot armour and it's inability to do anything to the main cast of characters; you can see them die again and again but somehow they'll come back.

@holo-simp

Didn't they send the Black Lizard after them in season 1? In season 1, they also mentioned that they were regularly raided by Port Mafia.

People with low average anime scores don't have high standards. They are just bad at choosing good anime to watch.

May 9, 2024 8:20 AM

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Eleben said:

eWEQRW123123 said:
Overall, the Armed Detective Agency has low combat power and is mostly suited for support.

And yet, in the end, they’re always victorious.

I disagree about akiko she's really strong just need to dissect her enemies with a large saw

May 9, 2024 8:40 AM

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Eleben said:

eWEQRW123123 said:
Overall, the Armed Detective Agency has low combat power and is mostly suited for support.

And yet, in the end, they’re always victorious.

I disagree about akiko she's really strong just need to dissect her enemies with a large saw

@sjabeen You should tell that the person who made the thread.

May 9, 2024 11:35 AM

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I wonder how much content you have covered to make that statement.

May 9, 2024 12:49 PM

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This is not a 'action/battle/fighting' Shonen anime that has an atrocious sudden plot armor powerup.

IMO, those plot armors are the worst.

May 9, 2024 3:17 PM

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May 10, 2024 1:50 AM

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dudes literally only seen season 1 yet is yapping like he's current in the manga

May 10, 2024 9:08 AM

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eWEQRW123123 said:
@holo-simp

Didn't they send the Black Lizard after them in season 1? In season 1, they also mentioned that they were regularly raided by Port Mafia.

they raided them often, that doesn't mean they went all out. do you really think that if the port mafia wanted them gone, they wouldn't send their entire army after them?

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