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Nov 23, 2023 3:00 PM
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so far this show has been enjoyable with it's light hearted comedy and I love the OPs and EDs. however whenever there is an antogonist, all the suspense built up seems like it goes to waste. just a quick fight and everything is resolved.

although this doesn't ruin the show or make me dislike it, but I find that, for a show about a ex man slayer, the action is severely lacking in terms of animation and duration (Kenshin just sorta jumps around and smacks the guy in the face and leaves)
anyone else feel that way too?
Nov 23, 2023 3:04 PM
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Nah ur right cant lis, the original series had more hype in the fights but yh the fights in the remake currently are lacklusting and its sad tbh. Just enjoying the op/eds & the plot progression at this point.
Nov 23, 2023 3:13 PM
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That's a problem with the remake . The fights are much better in the manga!!
Nov 23, 2023 3:14 PM
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At this point I don't care about it, I am only watching it cuz I already watched so many eps thinking it will get better but lol it doesn't but now I can't quick cuz I already spend so much to it lol
Nov 23, 2023 3:16 PM
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At this point I don't care about it, I am only watching it cuz I already watched so many eps thinking it will get better but lol it doesn't but now I can't quick cuz I already spend so much to it lol


The fights in Kyoto arc are some of the best in shonen mangas , but i don't have much hopes with Lidenfilms as a studio!
Nov 23, 2023 5:10 PM
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I don't share your opinion but all I can say is that the "real" tense and great fights starts in the Sishio arc.
Nov 23, 2023 6:45 PM
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It is indeed lackluster at the moment, but honestly the story and characters are enough to make up, so I don't care much. It'll be great if they manage to nail the action sequence in Kyoto arc though.
Nov 23, 2023 7:28 PM
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Well episode 7 had a really good action scene so the studio is capable, so they just adapting it exactly how it played out in the manga I guess.
Nov 23, 2023 9:02 PM
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anime Industry should stop using blinding color palette for real and at least make the characters proportion realistic
Nov 24, 2023 12:43 AM

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sayu-simp said:
so far this show has been enjoyable with it's light hearted comedy and I love the OPs and EDs. however whenever there is an antogonist, all the suspense built up seems like it goes to waste. just a quick fight and everything is resolved.

although this doesn't ruin the show or make me dislike it, but I find that, for a show about a ex man slayer, the action is severely lacking in terms of animation and duration (Kenshin just sorta jumps around and smacks the guy in the face and leaves)
anyone else feel that way too?

i feel like the remake did everything right except for the fight scenes thats unfortunate but at least the ed2 is a banger
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Nov 24, 2023 4:07 AM
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Cestlavie_ said:
Well episode 7 had a really good action scene so the studio is capable, so they just adapting it exactly how it played out in the manga I guess.

apparently the manga fights were much better so I'm not too sure about that one.
Nov 24, 2023 4:08 AM
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egosumjk said:
anime Industry should stop using blinding color palette for real and at least make the characters proportion realistic

wdym character proportion realistic?
Nov 24, 2023 5:47 AM
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sayu-simp said:
egosumjk said:
anime Industry should stop using blinding color palette for real and at least make the characters proportion realistic

wdym character proportion realistic?

idk why but the characters doesn't seem alive to me example of good proportion is attack on titan i guess?
Nov 24, 2023 8:08 AM

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I'm hanging in there for the sole purpose of sunk cost fallacy. I've already come this far on the praise of "This anime is amazing it just starts slow". Well the season is just about up and uhhh I just don't have much good to say about this anime. Maybe if it had come out 10 or so years ago... but it's so lackluster and just average.

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Nov 24, 2023 9:38 AM

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sayu-simp said:
so far this show has been enjoyable with it's light hearted comedy and I love the OPs and EDs. however whenever there is an antogonist, all the suspense built up seems like it goes to waste. just a quick fight and everything is resolved.

although this doesn't ruin the show or make me dislike it, but I find that, for a show about a ex man slayer, the action is severely lacking in terms of animation and duration (Kenshin just sorta jumps around and smacks the guy in the face and leaves)
anyone else feel that way too?
chekkit said:
I'm hanging in there for the sole purpose of sunk cost fallacy. I've already come this far on the praise of "This anime is amazing it just starts slow". Well the season is just about up and uhhh I just don't have much good to say about this anime. Maybe if it had come out 10 or so years ago... but it's so lackluster and just average.


Yes , that's a very common opinion of the "start" of the work.

Kenshin is so damn strong that he's literally unbeatable...
The important point is not the fights themselves , but the characters and their developments.

Things will get more interesting with the Kyoto Arc , which is starting with the next episode !
In it , Kenshin will finally have to fight seriously , and he sometimes won't win. He will also have to question himself (and his vow) , and the fights will be longer and tenser with each episode going by.

Actually , even the Author himself didn't expected anything from his work...
He literally started it only to train his drawings , and he was surprised by the popularity his Manga got (mostly with the Oniwaban-shu sub-Arc).
It's because of this popularity than he was pushed by his editor to develop a real story around his characters , and thus made the Kyoto Arc.
The only parts he planned around that point are not used until very much later , with the Jinchuu Arc.

So if you like the characters , i vividly recommend you to continue watching. Your expectations are about to be rightfully answered.
If you don't want to wait for the next Seasons of this Remake (which are not confirmed yet) , you could also watch the 1996 adaptation (starting from Episode 28).

But if you don't , then there really is no point to continue... You'd better search for another series.

sayu-simp said:
apparently the manga fights were much better so I'm not too sure about that one.


They are "better" because the Author makes the blows feels very impactful , but they are also all a lot shorter than shown in this adaptation.
I don't think they truly are better , the Anime and the Manga are just 2 differents medias. I don't expect at all an Animation to have such effects for the frame too.

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Nov 24, 2023 10:22 AM
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Alexioos95 said:
sayu-simp said:
so far this show has been enjoyable with it's light hearted comedy and I love the OPs and EDs. however whenever there is an antogonist, all the suspense built up seems like it goes to waste. just a quick fight and everything is resolved.

although this doesn't ruin the show or make me dislike it, but I find that, for a show about a ex man slayer, the action is severely lacking in terms of animation and duration (Kenshin just sorta jumps around and smacks the guy in the face and leaves)
anyone else feel that way too?
chekkit said:
I'm hanging in there for the sole purpose of sunk cost fallacy. I've already come this far on the praise of "This anime is amazing it just starts slow". Well the season is just about up and uhhh I just don't have much good to say about this anime. Maybe if it had come out 10 or so years ago... but it's so lackluster and just average.


Yes , that's a very common opinion of the "start" of the work.

Kenshin is so damn strong that he's literally unbeatable...
The important point is not the fights themselves , but the characters and their developments.

Things will get more interesting with the Kyoto Arc , which is starting with the next episode !
In it , Kenshin will finally have to fight seriously , and he sometimes won't win. He will also have to question himself (and his vow) , and the fights will be longer and tenser with each episode going by.

Actually , even the Author himself didn't expected anything from his work...
He literally started it only to train his drawings , and he was surprised by the popularity his Manga got (mostly with the Oniwaban-shu sub-Arc).
It's because of this popularity than he was pushed by his editor to develop a real story around his characters , and thus made the Kyoto Arc.
The only parts he planned around that point are not used until very much later , with the Jinchuu Arc.

So if you like the characters , i vividly recommend you to continue watching. Your expectations are about to be rightfully answered.
If you don't want to wait for the next Seasons of this Remake (which are not confirmed yet) , you could also watch the 1996 adaptation (starting from Episode 28).

But if you don't , then there really is no point to continue... You'd better search for another series.

sayu-simp said:
apparently the manga fights were much better so I'm not too sure about that one.


They are "better" because the Author makes the blows feels very impactful , but they are also all a lot shorter than shown in this adaptation.
I don't think they truly are better , the Anime and the Manga are just 2 differents medias. I don't expect at all an Animation to have such effects for the frame too.


wouldn't exactly call 21 episodes the "start" of a show. although the characters are great, it doesn't justify the fact that this is supposed to be an action show with very underwhelming fights. as you've mentioned before, I understand that Kenshin is really strong but I don't think we need so many episodes just to prove that fact.
Nov 24, 2023 10:34 AM

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sayu-simp said:
wouldn't exactly call 21 episodes the "start" of a show.


When talking about a long running show... we can.

The series would run for around 80 Episodes with all the Main Manga adapted.
21 Episodes is merely 1/4 of the overall story.

But yes , that's why i also added quotes around it.

sayu-simp said:
it doesn't justify the fact that this is supposed to be an action show with very underwhelming fights. as you've mentioned before, I understand that Kenshin is really strong but I don't think we need so many episodes just to prove that fact.


The action is just one of the genre. The main one of the story (at that point) is the drama.
The important point is the development of the characters , and explorations of the psyche of Kenshin.

The episodes are not here to tell us that Kenshin is extremely strong , but that many people have had serious problems in their past , and although they struggled , they ultimately managed to live a life of peace. Some characters were also guilty of multiple crimes , but managed to achieve redemption. It's also what's hinted in the subtitle (Meiji Kenkaku Romantan).

The action is just a mean to end the story started in the previous episode , while also attracting the readers of the Shounen Jump.
And it's exactly because people preferred the action scenes over the rest that the Mangas became popular with the Oniwaban-shu sub-Arc (which got more action than everything before) , and that the editor pushed the Author to do a long-running and overarching story with more fights.
"Genius lives only one storey above madness."
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"Stupidity is a talent for misconception."
– Edgar Allan Poe.

"I'm tired... and hungry."
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Nov 25, 2023 11:06 AM
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sayu-simp said:
so far this show has been enjoyable with it's light hearted comedy and I love the OPs and EDs. however whenever there is an antogonist, all the suspense built up seems like it goes to waste. just a quick fight and everything is resolved.

although this doesn't ruin the show or make me dislike it, but I find that, for a show about a ex man slayer, the action is severely lacking in terms of animation and duration (Kenshin just sorta jumps around and smacks the guy in the face and leaves)
anyone else feel that way too?

In the manga the fights are better but this initial arc as well as S1 adapts the quieter arc going forward you will see good stuff also trust the depth and writing factor.
Nov 27, 2023 8:07 PM
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I though the fights were good don't see a problem

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