| My guess would be people who watched the original. I never did so I find the remakes pretty enjoyable though nothing that great. |
penrhos said: Because it's so bland and generic. Where it could have been pretty good if they'd made the characters likable with a better plot. You can say pretty much the same for plenty, plenty, plenty of other series yet you don't see them getting scores under 7.0. The reason in reality is one and only one: because it's not surrounded by hype factor. Nobody cares about it. And stuff general people don't care about never get high scores. |
| It’s definitely above average. The production maybe isn’t the best that it could be but still very good sadly because it’s slow paced and a story is a little complicated nothing attracts attention in the middle. |
| This anime is good. Season 2 is much more likeable than Season 1 for me. The studio did a good job with the story pacing and the animations. I feel like the score should be over 7.00. This is really underrated. |
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| I see these "why does it have such a low score threads" on every single page for an anime with a low score. Some people don't like the anime as much as you do, so they score it lower. That's why it is scores so low. Season 1 of this show was absolute crap. Season 2 is much better, but it still makes little sense, and the show doesn't appear like it wants to explain anything that is going on. |
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NeonDeviluke09 said: This anime is good. Season 2 is much more likeable than Season 1 for me. The studio did a good job with the story pacing and the animations. I feel like the score should be over 7.00. This is really underrated. I think the same. Orphen is my favorite anime especially season 1 original. For me season 1 was much better in the end towards episode 10 when get more instense action and some seinen efect. And season 2, was much better of season 1 from the beggining, and after episode 6 a lot better too. |
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| Season 2 is better than season 1 but that doesn't make it suddenly better than average. At best, this anime is pretty average. |
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| I can list down some factors: 1- Poor marketing to the west Orphen is big in Japan, but only in there. It's a classic light novel series, selling over 14 million units. The official twitter page is in Japanese. The trailers and other press material are mostly in japanese. Hell, the second trailer to season 3 is still in japanese only. I don't know why they don't seem to care about bringing the series to the west, the most we'll get is the simulcast and later the american english dub. 2- Poor to average animation Konosuba is a good show, funny, but overrated. And it has a good animation, you don't see lots of crappy and weird frames like you do in Orphen(hello Orphen's pendant), stuff like that kills the immersion. Of course, animation improved in season 2 and a little bit more in season 3, but still, it's not enough to polish most minor technical mistakes, that should be the basic in animation. With stuff like Chainsaw Man, Attack On Titan, Summertime Render, Spy X Family and etc, how the fuck could Orphen have a good rating? Maybe if this show was broadcast in the middle 2000s with this quality, it would be somewhat acceptable. (I said somewhat). 3- Lack of good art and photography direction Orphen overall looks generic. They butchered Kusaka's art style, from character design to background, scenario and so on. They look incomplete, unpolished, like it was drawn with pencil and colored with crayon, looks static overall. They overuse backgrounds, probably due to budget, leaving little to no room to get a diverse and well directed scene. The nature of a light novel has something to do too since you have little visual reference, so you have to use your imagination a lot. 4- Poor story adaptation This is not a manga, so it's harder to adapt some stuff, I get it. But come on, you don't fuck up "Heed My Call, Beast!" like that. They managed not only to cut content but to over extend parts of the plot, leaving the first arc to be both rushed and dragged. The optimal lenght would be 4 to 5 episodes per book (first book should last that much yes, but properly adapted), since the average number of pages is around of 150. Some have more, like books 19 and 20 (around of 200) and others have less, like book 11 with roughly 110 pages. Speaking of it, they put 110 pages in 1 episode. How? RUSHING THRU IT. Rushing like that makes the story feel confusing, the characters not interesting and shallow. Let the story flow properly, let the characters sink in and have depth. The main trio has so much more depth in the books. 5- PG 13 Come on! Orphen is not a shounen series, it is seinen. Violence, nudity and other mature themes were toned down a lot in the anime. I know seinen has more to do with what magazine it is published and Orphen was published in Dragon Magazine, but, it's natural for seinen to have a more adult, bitter and tragic approach, with maybe some critics to society. Let's take Arakawa Under The Bridge as an example. It looks like just a weird wtf comedy anime, but it has more to it, specially how it satirizes japanese society. Orphen satirizes a lot of cliché tv tropes of Sword & Sorcery and JRPG themes. Sorcery students getting cqc training, dragons who look human, machine guns in a "medieval" world like that and the whole Orphen's personality. It may look cliché nowadays, but back in the 90s, this kind of protagonist was usually a hero, the good guy with golden heart, with a mission for the greater good, not a lazy selfish kind of guy. (Take Dragon Quest 8 for instance). I hope I covered all the bases here, I'm no specialist or anything, it's just my view as a fan. Yes, I'm criticizing the adaptation of something I really like, go figure. |
todd2580 said: That is not correct. It's not the age of the light novel but rather how it got turned into an anime, otherwise modern fans would hate Naruto and DBZ because they're old. I assume you've never read any Orphen novel.Because it’s based on an old title that isn’t suited for modern fans of anime |
todd2580 said: You could say the same of Junji Ito's macabre, which was made by Deen too. It bored me to death, but I know he is a talented writer and mangaka. The thing is, you'll only know how the author writes if you read them. And Ito's work is old, too. I used DBZ and Naruto also as an example of being old but not boring new audiences. It's not age that makes them bored, it's how well the original work is adapted, good studios can work miracles on mediocre source material and that's not the case with Orphen, I can assure you that.fudish123 said: i didn't read them but from the writing in general it seemed it won't appeal to modern anime fans' taste and might bore them if they aren't patient.That is not correct. It's not the age of the light novel but rather how it got turned into an anime, otherwise modern fans would hate Naruto and DBZ because they're old. I assume you've never read any Orphen novel. also comparing between manga like naruto and dragon ball to light novel which are a different medium aren't fair comparison. |
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