The Case Study of Vanitas
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AribProX89 said: They have done a great job with this arc(very minimal cuts), last arc was rushed but not the point you would say it was bad or something.Manga readers?Are they adapting this right?Or they rushing it?? You can say that the pay off in the manga due to months of waiting at that time was greater though. In other words if i am being nit picky, you can say that the pace is a bit fast in the current arc but nothing is really left out and it has been adapted really well. And the direction and music makes up for the fast pace as well(especially since this episode was very well directed) The emotional tension isnt exagerated and is the same as in the manga for the most part as well which serves as a plus point and Domi s part was >in the anime. The action sequence is almost at the same level(the anime might be slightly better if we take music into account) Character expressions are easily > in the manga though which accounts for a better emotional experience in some cases however. |
234MannanMar 29, 2022 1:01 AM
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| I want to punch Vanitas with a steel lamp. F*ck his circumstances, he doesn't give any for everyone's else so why should I? One thing that always pissed me off about him is how he had the audacity to always gloat when he had an advantage over others, but instantly got butthurt and shut himself off when someone came a little bit close to find something about him. In my case I thought it had good parts, but it's slowly devolving into a soap opera of "omg, the fate is cruel" when it actually the characters (Vanitas) doing most of it themselves. |
| Lots of emotional damage |
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| oh i'm surprised! never expected this episode has a lot of action in it! and it's a total clash between Vanitas vs. Noé! But this time it seems that Vanitas is not his real self compared to Noé doin' some martyr stuff for Vanitas...so sweet! 5/5. |
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| Mikhail is so damn annoying omfg. OK episode overall. Honestly, I don't care about all this Vanitas x Noé drama but at least the visuals and Kajiura's godly OST kept me entertained enough. Anyways, good thing there is only one episode left. |
| Geez, this was an intense episode. Finally an episode that I genuinely liked from this part. |
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| The fighting and action in this episode was just awesome!!! And Jeanne arrived just in time!! Hyped to see the finale!!! |
| What a farce, this fight was too forced. Atleast Noé finally learned how Domi feels. Will we finally get progress for Domi x Noe? |
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MegamiRem said: What a farce, this fight was too forced. This has been foreshadowed from cour 1 and both characters are acting like themselves. What's forced are opinions like this. |
Laplace_kunMar 31, 2022 12:12 PM
| "All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo |
Laplace_kun said: It was as clear as a day that this two would end up fighting at some point. I meant the way it was done is cliché and meh. It wasn't executed well enough. Mikhail appears, kidnaps Domi and makes em fight. If that ain't forced/cliché than I don't know what is.MegamiRem said: What a farce, this fight was too forced. This has been foreshadowed from season 1 and both characters are acting like themselves. What's forced are opinions like this. |
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MegamiRem said: Mikhail appears, kidnaps Domi and makes em fight. If that ain't forced/cliché than I don't know what is. Mikhail already appeared in the timeline before the final episode of cour 1 and manipulated Domi while Gevaudan Arc happened. Kidnapping Domi has much little to do compared to the threat of Noé unlocking Vanitas memories. Misha planned it well, and he wanted to demonstrate how these relationships are so fickle compared to what he, father and Vani had. How easy it is to incite conflict between them and how easily Domi's mental weaknesses can be exploited excites him. Not to say Also you are making a lot of assumptions without going to the real instigations of the fight, mentioned in the form of "someone kind" helping Mikhail. Furthermore, a single conflict showed Domi's version of the story, Mikhail's psychopathic demeanor, Vanitas' weird relationship with Luna, Noé's hinted character growth, the different nature of Vani and Noé as fighters, the extent of which astermite manipulation can be done by blue tearstone, Jeanne and Domi's friendship and so on. This is like calling every Gintama conflict, which has multifaceted themes and elements - cliched. Execution is a matter of adaptation, not the elements already involved. Also I guess this is more cliched than what Fairy Tail has given to me in my life... Moving on ~ |
Laplace_kunMar 31, 2022 12:12 PM
| "All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo |
Laplace_kun said: Without taking Domi hostage Noé wouldn't be going after Vanitas like he was so I have no idea tf u mean it has not much to do with it. Also what does Fairy Tail has anything to do with this?MegamiRem said: Mikhail appears, kidnaps Domi and makes em fight. If that ain't forced/cliché than I don't know what is. Mikhail already appeared in the timeline before the final episode of cour 1 and manipulated Domi while Gevaudan Arc happened. Kidnapping Domi has much little to do compared to the threat of Noé unlocking Vanitas memories. Misha planned it well, and he wanted to demonstrate how these relationships are so fickle compared to what he, father and Vani had. How easy it is to incite conflict between them and how easily Domi's mental weaknesses can be exploited excites him. Not to say Also you are making a lot of assumptions without going to the real instigations of the fight, mentioned in the form of "someone kind" helping Mikhail. Furthermore, a single conflict showed Domi's version of the story, Mikhail's psychopathic demeanor, Vanitas' weird relationship with Luna, Noé's hinted character growth, the different nature of Vani and Noé as fighters, the extent of which astermite manipulation can be done by blue tearstone, Jeanne and Domi's friendship and so on. This is like calling every Gintama conflict, which has multifaceted themes and elements - cliched. Execution is a matter of adaptation, not the elements already involved. Also I guess this is more cliched than what Fairy Tail has given to me in my life... Moving on ~ |
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MegamiRem said: Without taking Domi hostage Noé wouldn't be going after Vanitas like he was so I have no idea tf u mean it has not much to do with it. Also what does Fairy Tail has anything to do with this? FT has to do with this, because you are throwing around the word "cliché" lazily. Nearly the entire show can be fairly described by this one word, and that'd be disregarding all the plot, characters and lore. Also I made it clear that Vani instigated the fight, Noé even actually was craving for Vanitas' help before Vani made a rude statement. And it took only the same episode for Noé to realize he acted out of anger and desperacy which doesn't suit him. Did you even watch the episode properly? Or are you going to keep replying to me with no points of your own because stubbornness is cool? |
| "All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo |
| Mister manipulator just grinning and enjoying watching two individuals going bonkers... yeah i despise him. Just one more episode, please put this fight to an end. |
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| Both main characters fighting each other |
| Inhales oxygen |
| Seeing Vanitas and Noé face each other in a life to death battle was definitely a hard watch especially considering they don't do it out of hate for another. |
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| fucking lame. Noe is basically Naruto to Sasuke. Your friend cuts you off, you fuck off. Don't be pathetic and keep chasing after them when they've clearly expressed they don't want you around. How long have they've known each other anyway? Why is Noe so attached to him? Vanitas has his reasons and he's acting accordingly while Noe's being his usual bitch ass. |
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PrimeX said: Ahhhh... when did Vanitas cut him of? I think its more of a comprehension problem by your end lmao... Plus why they got so attached? well gee I wonderfucking lame. Noe is basically Naruto to Sasuke. Your friend cuts you off, you fuck off. Don't be pathetic and keep chasing after them when they've clearly expressed they don't want you around. How long have they've known each other anyway? Why is Noe so attached to him? Vanitas has his reasons and he's acting accordingly while Noe's being his usual bitch ass. |
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| Noé was fighting to save Domi, I was on Vanitas side there, crazy hypnosis or not, keeping his memories to himself is simply his number one priority, he killing everyone who wants to take them by force, even if that's Noé, is perfectly understandable... then again, not like that would happen, always happy to see Jeanne, but specially this time around, so glad she appeared to take off some weight from them |
| The fighting itself was nice to watch, but I'm still not really getting the motives for Misha and Domi. |
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