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Nov 25, 2021 10:56 PM
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It was cool to see Tanjiro dealing with his guilty conscious I guess, but watching Inosuke and Zenitsu dreams were lame af, not to mention that the author only focused on Tanjiro's dream. It felt like the rest of the characters were wasted potential. I thought I would see some character background and development, but I got a comic relief garbage instead. Inosuke was nothing but a violent maniac, while Zenitsu only wanted to get some pussy, lame.
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Kaftzen said:
It was cool to see Tanjiro dealing with his guilty conscious I guess, but watching Inosuke and Zenitsu dreams were lame af, not to mention that the author only focused on Tanjiro's dream. It felt like the rest of the characters were wasted potential. I thought I would see some character background and development, but I got a comic relief garbage instead. Inosuke was nothing but a violent maniac, while Zenitsu only wanted to get some pussy, lame.
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Nov 26, 2021 1:43 AM
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To me, Inosuke and Zenitsu's dreams basically looked like to come out of a fan fic. I agree they could've given some more background and insight to their character. But we can't do anything about it now.

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inosuke's role pretty good, ngl he's the most fun crew in mugen arc by far, tanjiro was very cliched though, rengoku is just another superhero who save the day like those marvels film
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The whole show was mid from the start
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Nov 26, 2021 3:41 AM
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I agree on the part that this arc was mediocre and also that it would have been nice to see some character development but it wasn't just possible in the dreams. The dream was shown to them by a demon and was about what the characters wanted and not about what they needed. The dream was meant to be a happy dream that the characters didn't want to wake up from. For tanjiro, his happy dream was to reunite with his family and live his life happily with them. As for zenitsu and inosuke, they recieved their happy dreams as well. Zenitsu is a character which actually runs from his past rather than confront it. His happy dream was to forget about the world to live a life with nezuko. It is pretty apparent in the series that his only reason to travel with tanjiro was a slight sense of security and nezuko. As for inosuke maybe fighting a train-centepede with his friends was his dream. I have no idea whatever even resides in his head or what even is his character. I had although thought that their character could be better explained in the inner core of their dream after. I was a bit satisfied with tanjiro's but zenitsu and insosuke's core was translated as pure garbage and I have exactly same opinion as yours on that. But you could also argue that if that was the case then why didn't rengoku dream about his father getting his hope back. I have to say that the writing was pretty lazy.
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To me, Inosuke and Zenitsu's dreams basically looked like to come out of a fan fic. I agree they could've given some more background and insight to their character. But we can't do anything about it now.
We can criticize it.
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The whole show was mid from the start
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Nov 26, 2021 7:17 AM

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It's not just Zenitsu and Inosuke that are wasted potential, the manga suffers from a lack of interesting development for many characters. There's too many of them and only a few got enough time to shine for longer than 3 pages of flashbacks.
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I agree on the part that this arc was mediocre and also that it would have been nice to see some character development but it wasn't just possible in the dreams. The dream was shown to them by a demon and was about what the characters wanted and not about what they needed. The dream was meant to be a happy dream that the characters didn't want to wake up from. For tanjiro, his happy dream was to reunite with his family and live his life happily with them. As for zenitsu and inosuke, they recieved their happy dreams as well. Zenitsu is a character which actually runs from his past rather than confront it. His happy dream was to forget about the world to live a life with nezuko. It is pretty apparent in the series that his only reason to travel with tanjiro was a slight sense of security and nezuko. As for inosuke maybe fighting a train-centepede with his friends was his dream. I have no idea whatever even resides in his head or what even is his character. I had although thought that their character could be better explained in the inner core of their dream after. I was a bit satisfied with tanjiro's but zenitsu and insosuke's core was translated as pure garbage and I have exactly same opinion as yours on that. But you could also argue that if that was the case then why didn't rengoku dream about his father getting his hope back. I have to say that the writing was pretty lazy.
It was pretty lazy indeed. Even if everything you said is true, it changes nothing. It was lame but also wasted potential.
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ame-furi said:
It's not just Zenitsu and Inosuke that are wasted potential, the manga suffers from a lack of interesting development for many characters. There's too many of them and only a few got enough time to shine for longer than 3 pages of flashbacks.
I haven't read the manga, but it wouldn't surprise me.
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In other news, researcher have found that water is wet, WHAT A DISCOVERY!
Since Demon Slayer has a lot of fanboys, I'm not sure if it is that obvious.
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I usually dont like to give out links. But I cant really explain as deep as whoever wrote this. It's a really well made article if u have time, u can check it out. It describes all the dreams and interpretation.

https://medium.com/@ramalex/a-psychoanalytic-character-analysis-of-kimetsu-no-yaiba-in-the-context-of-infinity-train-arc-876ee75ddc8b
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Kaftzen said:
It was cool to see Tanjiro dealing with his guilty conscious I guess, but watching Inosuke and Zenitsu dreams were lame af, not to mention that the author only focused on Tanjiro's dream. It felt like the rest of the characters were wasted potential. I thought I would see some character background and development, but I got a comic relief garbage instead. Inosuke was nothing but a violent maniac, while Zenitsu only wanted to get some pussy, lame.
one part ruins a whole arc. gotcha.
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Kaftzen said:
It was cool to see Tanjiro dealing with his guilty conscious I guess, but watching Inosuke and Zenitsu dreams were lame af, not to mention that the author only focused on Tanjiro's dream. It felt like the rest of the characters were wasted potential. I thought I would see some character background and development, but I got a comic relief garbage instead. Inosuke was nothing but a violent maniac, while Zenitsu only wanted to get some pussy, lame.
one part ruins a whole arc. gotcha.
The most important part*
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Kaftzen said:
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one part ruins a whole arc. gotcha.
The most important part*
it is not the most important part.
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OmegaAlphaBoss said:
Kaftzen said:
The most important part*
it is not the most important part.
"Dreams don't matter in the arc that is all about dreams" lmao.
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it is not the most important part.
"Dreams doesn't matter in the arc that is all about dreams" lmao.
it's not all about dreams at all. you either haven't fully watched it, haven't read the manga, or are just a troll based on the fact that your profile seems to show that you basically don't like anything.
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OmegaAlphaBoss said:
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"Dreams doesn't matter in the arc that is all about dreams" lmao.
it's not all about dreams at all. you either haven't fully watched it, haven't read the manga, or are just a troll based on the fact that your profile seems to show that you basically don't like anything.
That's weird. I would swear that we spend half of this arc inside the main character's dreams, but maybe I'm just crazy.
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it's not all about dreams at all. you either haven't fully watched it, haven't read the manga, or are just a troll based on the fact that your profile seems to show that you basically don't like anything.
That's weird. I would swear that we spend half of this arc inside the main character's dreams, but maybe I'm just crazy.
again, it's not all about dreams. the real meat of the arc is in the last half, not the dreams segment.
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That's weird. I would swear that we spend half of this arc inside the main character's dreams, but maybe I'm just crazy.
again, it's not all about dreams. the real meat of the arc is in the last half, not the dreams segment.
"The Dream's arc where dreams don't matter at all" please stop.
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again, it's not all about dreams. the real meat of the arc is in the last half, not the dreams segment.
"The Dream's arc where dreams don't matter at all" please stop.
it's not a dream arc. it's to help pave the way for the rest of the series, which the last half factors into significantly. the dream part sets up into the last half and the finale. yes it could have been fleshed out more, but it doesn't at all mean the whole arc is bad or ruined.
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OmegaAlphaBoss said:
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"The Dream's arc where dreams don't matter at all" please stop.
it's not a dream arc. it's to help pave the way for the rest of the series, which the last half factors into significantly. the dream part sets up into the last half and the finale. yes it could have been fleshed out more, but it doesn't at all mean the whole arc is bad or ruined.

The dream part is the main problem the characters must face, and somehow you keep saying dreams are not the most important thing in this arc. I don't care if this part of the anime """helps""" to pave the way for the rest of the series, that's something the author could have done in the previous season.
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it's not a dream arc. it's to help pave the way for the rest of the series, which the last half factors into significantly. the dream part sets up into the last half and the finale. yes it could have been fleshed out more, but it doesn't at all mean the whole arc is bad or ruined.

The dream part is the main problem the characters must face, and somehow you keep saying dreams are not the most important thing in this arc. I don't care if this part of the anime """helps""" to pave the way for the rest of the series, that's something the author could have done in the previous season.
yeah, you can tell you haven't finished it, because the dream part is not the real problem they must face. just finish it first my guy then come back.
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The dream part is the main problem the characters must face, and somehow you keep saying dreams are not the most important thing in this arc. I don't care if this part of the anime """helps""" to pave the way for the rest of the series, that's something the author could have done in the previous season.
yeah, you can tell you haven't finished it, because the dream part is not the real problem they must face. just finish it first my guy then come back.
Just say you're a fanboy.
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yeah, you can tell you haven't finished it, because the dream part is not the real problem they must face. just finish it first my guy then come back.
Just say you're a fanboy.
you can say what you want, but you haven't seen the real treat of the movie. hope you enjoy it!
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true true. but so far its the best arc in demon slayer 😂

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I agree with your criticisms, this added nothing to the movie
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true true. but so far its the best arc in demon slayer 😂
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I usually dont like to give out links. But I cant really explain as deep as whoever wrote this. It's a really well made article if u have time, u can check it out. It describes all the dreams and interpretation.

https://medium.com/@ramalex/a-psychoanalytic-character-analysis-of-kimetsu-no-yaiba-in-the-context-of-infinity-train-arc-876ee75ddc8b
I've read the entire article, and I didn't really like it.

1.- I don't trust in people that call themselves psychoanalysts and quote Sigmund Freud.

2.- The author of the article praises this arc for being reiterative. The characters' dreams express their mindsets very well, but those mindsets have been shown already in the past. We all knew that Inosuke was a violent megalomaniac way before he got in the train; we knew that Zenitsu was a pathetic simp that nobody liked, since the very first time we saw him begging a girl to marry him, so what's the point?.

3.- It also overthinks some stuff. Why would you think that the tunnel of Inosuke's dream was a way to represent his difficulties socializing with others? He doesn't really care about it nor even has shown interest in it yet. It is stupid to try to symbolize something the character clearly hasn't expressed yet.
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I totally agree it was kind of a bad arc outside of the akaza fight
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I've read the entire article, and I didn't really like it.

Nice, but I can't really do anything about ur liking

1.- I don't trust in people that call themselves psychoanalysts and quote Sigmund Freud.

The author of the article never called himself psychoanalyst. Plus this movie directly deals subconscious and conscious mind, so quoting sigmund freud or mentioning psychoanalysis is not really a stretch

2.- The author of the article praises this arc for being reiterative. The characters' dreams express their mindsets very well, but those mindsets have been shown already in the past. We all knew that Inosuke was a violent megalomaniac way before he got in the train; we knew that Zenitsu was a pathetic simp that nobody liked, since the very first time we saw him begging a girl to marry him, so what's the point?.

Agree, it don't tell anything new even in tanjiro case. Dreams were used for showing complexity of existing characterization for everyone. Mangaka not interested in introducing new plot threads and extending the stories may be cause of that.

3.- It also overthinks some stuff. Why would you think that the tunnel of Inosuke's dream was a way to represent his difficulties socializing with others? He doesn't really care about it nor even has shown interest in it yet. It is stupid to try to symbolize something the character clearly hasn't expressed yet.

Hard disagree, clearly tunnel was the representation of inosuke dream and pitch black and scissors were present in Zenitsu dream or the vast impure subconscious of tanjiro. Everything was shown in stories(Inosuke did warmed up with people compared the season 1, It has been expressed subtly) What is shown has to have a meaning. U cant say that over thinking. Not every symbolism needs a clusturfuck nonsensical plot like flcl. Symbolism can be done even in background like this without disorienting the plot.

I pretty much knew from the beginning nothing will satisfy u because u had made up mind to trash on it. So it doesn't matter. Well, atleast u read that's more than enough imo
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But the dreams weren’t meant to look at their past. The demon made dreams, so they wouldn’t wake up. Tanjiro wanted his family, Inosuke wanted a fight and be seen as a leader, and Zenitsu wanted a date with Nezuko.

It would have been interesting to see some of their past, but I feel it wasn’t needed for this part.
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Kaftzen said:
It was cool to see Tanjiro dealing with his guilty conscious I guess, but watching Inosuke and Zenitsu dreams were lame af, not to mention that the author only focused on Tanjiro's dream. It felt like the rest of the characters were wasted potential. I thought I would see some character background and development, but I got a comic relief garbage instead. Inosuke was nothing but a violent maniac, while Zenitsu only wanted to get some pussy, lame.


True. The arc is now worse than I originally thought it was after they adapted it into a show. They should've just left it as a movie.
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Adampk said:
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I've read the entire article, and I didn't really like it.

Nice, but I can't really do anything about ur liking

1.- I don't trust in people that call themselves psychoanalysts and quote Sigmund Freud.

The author of the article never called himself psychoanalyst. Plus this movie directly deals subconscious and conscious mind, so quoting sigmund freud or mentioning psychoanalysis is not really a stretch

2.- The author of the article praises this arc for being reiterative. The characters' dreams express their mindsets very well, but those mindsets have been shown already in the past. We all knew that Inosuke was a violent megalomaniac way before he got in the train; we knew that Zenitsu was a pathetic simp that nobody liked, since the very first time we saw him begging a girl to marry him, so what's the point?.

Agree, it don't tell anything new even in tanjiro case. Dreams were used for showing complexity of existing characterization for everyone. Mangaka not interested in introducing new plot threads and extending the stories may be cause of that.

3.- It also overthinks some stuff. Why would you think that the tunnel of Inosuke's dream was a way to represent his difficulties socializing with others? He doesn't really care about it nor even has shown interest in it yet. It is stupid to try to symbolize something the character clearly hasn't expressed yet.

Hard disagree, clearly tunnel was the representation of inosuke dream and pitch black and scissors were present in Zenitsu dream or the vast impure subconscious of tanjiro. Everything was shown in stories(Inosuke did warmed up with people compared the season 1, It has been expressed subtly) What is shown has to have a meaning. U cant say that over thinking. Not every symbolism needs a clusturfuck nonsensical plot like flcl. Symbolism can be done even in background like this without disorienting the plot.

I pretty much knew from the beginning nothing will satisfy u because u had made up mind to trash on it. So it doesn't matter. Well, atleast u read that's more than enough imo

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The author of the article never called himself psychoanalyst. Plus this movie directly deals subconscious and conscious mind, so quoting sigmund freud or mentioning psychoanalysis is not really a stretch


That's not what I meant. What I meant was that Freud (and psychoanalysis in general) is bs.

Agree, it don't tell anything new even in tanjiro case. Dreams were used for showing complexity of existing characterization for everyone. Mangaka not interested in introducing new plot threads and extending the stories may be cause of that.


Ok, we both agree that there's barely anything special in this arc. It's lame when you reiterate something we already know without giving it a resolution.


Hard disagree, clearly tunnel was the representation of inosuke dream and pitch black and scissors were present in Zenitsu dream or the vast impure subconscious of tanjiro. Everything was shown in stories(Inosuke did warmed up with people compared the season 1, It has been expressed subtly) What is shown has to have a meaning. U cant say that over thinking. Not every symbolism needs a clusturfuck nonsensical plot like flcl. Symbolism can be done even in background like this without disorienting the plot.


I understand that the background and the scissors represented their feelings, but saying the tunnel represents Inosuke's struggle to interact with others is ridiculous. He doesn't seem affected by that problem at all.
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I totally agree it was kind of a bad arc outside of the akaza fight
Demon Slayer has a very good animation ngl.
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But the dreams weren’t meant to look at their past. The demon made dreams, so they wouldn’t wake up. Tanjiro wanted his family, Inosuke wanted a fight and be seen as a leader, and Zenitsu wanted a date with Nezuko.

It would have been interesting to see some of their past, but I feel it wasn’t needed for this part.


And that's why it's mediocre. It barely has anything interesting to show.
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It was cool to see Tanjiro dealing with his guilty conscious I guess, but watching Inosuke and Zenitsu dreams were lame af, not to mention that the author only focused on Tanjiro's dream. It felt like the rest of the characters were wasted potential. I thought I would see some character background and development, but I got a comic relief garbage instead. Inosuke was nothing but a violent maniac, while Zenitsu only wanted to get some pussy, lame.


True. The arc is now worse than I originally thought it was after they adapted it into a show. They should've just left it as a movie.


Meh, I don't think the movie changes anything.
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True. The arc is now worse than I originally thought it was after they adapted it into a show. They should've just left it as a movie.


Meh, I don't think the movie changes anything.


Dude. The only reason I watch the show is because ufotable animates it and Kajiura Yuki composes the music. There's nothing else about the show that I actually like.
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Meh, I don't think the movie changes anything.


Dude. The only reason I watch the show is because ufotable animates it and Kajiura Yuki composes the music. There's nothing else about the show that I actually like.
Yes. The art direction of Demon Slayer is incredible, no one can deny it.
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