Happy Sugar Life
| I sincerely doubt the show would have a rating as high as it does now. It's probably not popular enough to garner SJW public outcry. But look at it: who takes female pedophiles seriously? The female manager and aunt who both raped that teenage boy barely get mentioned as scum in the episode discussions, but almost everyone hates his pervy lolicon ass. I ain't defending his pervy lolicon ass, but if it had been grown men tying up and raping a female highschooler, I think they might've gotten a little more hate. Both women literally tied the boy up and held him against his will; they didn't talk him into it. Despite her actions, Auntie actually seems pretty popular with people on the forums and in the comment sections of YouTube clips. Imagine a male highschooler who's in love with an 8-year-old boy, and they: take baths together, snuggle and sleep in the same same bed, and recite wedding vows to each other every night. Then there's the other possibility: it would attract degenerate BL fans. Almost everyone in Happy Sugar Life is a sicko, but would it have been any sicker if the genders were swapped? It'd still be full of pedos, rapists, abusers, and murderers. Are male psychos scarier than female psychos who do the exact same things? I thought the show was too over-the-top to take seriously, but it makes for an interesting discussion on double standards. |
rafaelfserafim said: Good job at missing the point of the show, Satou isn't actually a pedophile, she's just confused about romantic and maternal love.I'm currently watching it, and the pedophily content is kinda pissing me off. It's perfectly fine for everyone in an anime be a sicko for other reasons, but this is disgusting. Although very predictable, if you pretend this factor doesn't exist, there's a few interesting elements in the anime, but not worth mentioning this anime to anyone. What I mean is: it could be done better. I'll probably continue watching considering it's bad because it exposes pedophily as if it was an "acceptable" thing to engulf, which is not; otherwise average on other contents. But if it gets worse on this aspect, I'm dropping. |
| If you swap the genders fujos will flock all over the series and the characters would be praised for being so "passionately in love". Also the ending would be criticized as: "The only reason they couldn't be together in the end is because Japan is homophobic". Don't underestimate self-righteous delusional fujoshis. |
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rafaelfserafim said: I'm currently watching it, and the pedophily content is kinda pissing me off. It's perfectly fine for everyone in an anime be a sicko for other reasons, but this is disgusting. Although very predictable, if you pretend this factor doesn't exist, there's a few interesting elements in the anime, but not worth mentioning this anime to anyone. What I mean is: it could be done better. I'll probably continue watching considering it's bad because it exposes pedophily as if it was an "acceptable" thing to engulf, which is not; otherwise average on other contents. But if it gets worse on this aspect, I'm dropping. Everyone goes so far off the rails in this show that by the end I couldn't take it seriously. The pedo guy is never seen as okay, but he mostly just pervs out to the wanted posters to the point where it's kind of funny. The two grown females who raped him are totally ignored on that front, as is the masochistic male teacher (he may not have been forcing his students like the Aunt and manager forced the boy. Still wrong but probably less traumatic.) They're terrible, but at least they go after teenagers instead of prepubescent kids. As for Satou and her child-wife, I don't know if that ever got sexual, but it was probably heading in that direction. Whether you view it as a tragic romance or an "I hope that bitch burns in Hell" story comes down to how serious you take it. I didn't feel like the show exactly condemned OR promoted Satou's actions. She's a sociopath and Shio is an 8 year-old: don't trust them to make good decisions. Maou_heika said: If you swap the genders fujos will flock all over the series and the characters would be praised for being so "passionately in love". Also the ending would be criticized as: "The only reason they couldn't be together in the end is because Japan is homophobic". Don't underestimate self-righteous delusional fujoshis. Lol, I figured. HSL would just get a different (kinkier?) audience. Never underestimate fujoshis. |
CamusEvergarden said: towelgirl21 said: Everyone goes so far off the rails in this show that by the end I couldn't take it seriously. And that is exactly the correct answer. It's a piece of fictional media that explores the dangerous thought: "What will a person on the brink of snapping do when their last shred of hope/sanity is dependent on another being and just how far will they go to protect it?" This show is criminally underrated by individuals who only see the age of the characters and inexperienced watchers who think it's "edgy" (go watch Elfen Lied, Blood+ or Berserk and call this edgy). I haven't seen a more twisted, yet thrilling, show since Deathnote. I mean, I thought HSL was edgy, if I define edgy as "a dark story that goes over the top for shock value till I can't take it seriously". I saw Elfen Lied about ten years ago in my fledgling weeb years, and thought it was great, but I don't know how I'd see it now. Was it good or just violent? I can't speak for Berserk or Blood+. I think "edgy" is subjective: this might be college dissertation worthy to someone. I think with HSL, almost everyone snapped quickly: not enough buildup. At one point, I seriously wondered if the government was slipping some chemical in that neighborhood's water as some sort of experiment. I mean, if a couple of characters snapped, that'd be one thing, but several random people in the show were just rapists. More flashbacks might have helped: for example, I was watching the Promised Neverland, and at the very end of the show, you learn why the antagonist did everything that she did. It was maybe 10 minutes of the whole show, but it showed how events in the course of someone's life could make them into a (perceived) monster. Shio's family backstory was good: I gained some sympathy for their characters (except the dad). Forgive me if my memory is a little hazy here. |
CamusEvergarden said: towelgirl21 said: I think "edgy" is subjective: this might be college dissertation worthy to someone. I think with HSL, almost everyone snapped quickly: not enough buildup. I mean, if a couple of characters snapped, that'd be one thing, but several random people in the show were just rapists. More flashbacks might have helped: for example, I was watching the Promised Neverland, and at the very end of the show, you learn why the antagonist did everything that she did. It was maybe 10 minutes of the whole show, but it showed how events in the course of someone's life could make them into a (perceived) monster. Sorry for a longer response, but I need to address the points being offered: 1. "Edgy" is subjective, but this is a show that doesn't explore realism at all, or rather, is contingent on overlooking minor "real life" details to hit the idea it is trying to convey to the viewer. As I said before this is show about: Mentally dysfunctional/broken people who are desperately trying to hold themselves together in a very dangerous way and what they'll do to get it/protect it. 2. The only person, I remember, who raped anyone was the manager which lead Taiyou into his desperate attempt to find his "Happy Sugar Life". This isn't a hentai of rapists having their way with other characters. In fact, aside from that single scene with the manager and Taiyou, I believe there aren't any other sexual scenes aside from a few kisses (one of which was done after taking vows) and teasing. 3. I think you're grasping for understanding/good qualities in the characters when you shouldn't. The reason I say this is because you admitted you were looking for an explanation to why "everyone snapped quickly" or 'wanted more backstory like Mother's in Promised Neverland" or "Shio's family backstory was good. I gained some sympathy for Shio". Let me be clear once again: This is a show about characters who are broken mentally. To them they are existing in a world of shit. Whether they were born like this doesn't matter . What matters from the character POV is how do I live/function when my existential world is absolute garbage and "tastes bitter". The characters find it in the worst possible place: In another person. Worse, a person who is undeveloped mentally and just got done being abandoned (for Shio's own sake) by their own family. These are extremely complex and desperate characters who will do despicable things to get a high of the "HSL" to escape their "bitter reality". Because of that some viewers (particularly younger) cannot understand why the characters are doing what they are doing. The only other rape I remember—and I don't think it was onscreen—was Satou's aunt raping Taiyou. He was found tied up in her apartment. The male highschool teacher was having sex with his underage female students, but he might not have forced them, so I wouldn't put it in the same category as Taiyou and those two grown women. But back to the discussion at hand. I'm following as best I can: The characters are broken mentally: their world is crap. They (at least Satou) find their solace in another mentally broken person. This is not a viable long-term solution to say the least. It's going to end terribly... and it does. So what is the point the show is trying to make? Screwed up people plus more screwed up people equals murder, rape, pedos, and a burning apartment building resulting in more screwed up people? What are the viewers supposed to think? When you just show point-blank mentally broken people with little to no explanation, it's easy to say "ugh, that person is a monster". If you know what led them down that path, then you can think "maybe if my life was like that, I would've done the same". The show also put some dramatic organ music during some scenes like when Satou and Shio were talking the Aunt into helping them escape. I thought it sounded goofy and over-the-top. Here's the review I wrote when I had just finished the show. |
towelgirl21 said: stop trying to plug boku no pico everywhereImagine a male highschooler who's in love with an 8-year-old boy, and they: take baths together, snuggle and sleep in the same same bed, and recite wedding vows to each other every night. |
CamusEvergarden said: towelgirl21 said: 1. The only other rape I remember—and I don't think it was onscreen—was Satou's aunt raping Taiyou. 2. So what is the point the show is trying to make? 3. It's easy to say "ugh, that person is a monster". If you know what led them down that path, then you can think "maybe if my life was like that, I would've done the same 1. Good catch, forgot about that one. 2. If your sole reason for happiness is contingent on another person it can, and most likely will, have dire consequences. Maybe at a subliminal level: If you're having an issue or know someone with a mental issue that is crippling them, go get them professional help before something happens. 3. In regards to the Aunt: "Her deeply twisted views of love are held responsible for making Satō think in a similar way and making her into the deranged psychopath that she is today." (HSL Wikipedia Page) I'm not sure what more you want Guess we just got different things from it. I may watch it again one day. It was entertaining if nothing else, and I really liked the colors and sound design (minus the organ music). Has an A+ murder scene in it. I mean, I didn't like Cowboy Bebop at first but later thought it was great. |
| There is literally an anime airing rn where the mc (a male) is a pedo and guess what its rating is? 8.38 Gender doesn't really matter |
| "he has it big as a cactus but he won't let go of my head and I puke on his cock bitch" - Boy by Fishball |
| I think a lot of people here are a bunch of weebs who can't enjoy any potentially controversial show without whining about the evil SJW and making these echo-chamber threads 'wHAt iF tHe GenDerS wErE SwaPPeD?' ffs just watch the damn show, y'all are obsessed. I haven't finished it yet. It's a bit too edgy for my liking but I think I could have enjoyed it more if I was a few years younger of if it wasn't so exaggerated (why is every character batshit crazy?). I like that the MC is a female and that her trauma isn't used to excuse her actions. Though, to be honest, I think the manga wouldn't have been so popular if it had been a male, mainly because yanderes sell - in fact, I think the professor is probably a satirical representation of the yandere fanbase. This show might also be the first anime that I've watched that deals with male sexual abuse, I mean, the narrative that the victim turned into a pedophile might not be ideal but the MC gets a similar treatment. And I think that despite your obsession with SJWs you guys really don't know them all that well. There is a huge overlap between 'fujos' and SJWs, though SJW BL fans claim to hate fujoshi and would never call themselves that. Personally, I've met a good chunk of BL fans who are really edgy and constantly on Twitter wars with the SJW, they're usually the incest and loli/shota apologists - I don't give a *** what they watch or do, but I'm just pointing out that your perception of fujoshi isn't all that accurate. |
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_Asterism said: This show might also be the first anime that I've watched that deals with male sexual abuse, I mean, the narrative that the victim turned into a pedophile might not be ideal but the MC gets a similar treatment. Yeah, no others come to mind, except for the currently-airing Redo of Healer, which I do *not* want to watch. I'll give you the point about me not knowing fujoshi that well: I avoid them like the plague. Along with BL and most other shows prominently featuring homosexuality. Discussing anime is my hobby, and I kind of enjoyed the show (it's made to make you feel uncomfortable). I watched the whole thing and even reviewed it. And I do love to rag on SJWs. From "fixing" Uzaki-chan's "problematic appearance" to having a fit about the scene in MHA where a guy straps his secretary to some machine and punishes her by the machine tickling her with a feathers while she says "stop" (and let us not forget Goblin Slayer and Shield Hero)... You'd think they might say something about a show filled with actual rapists and pedophiles. I'd never even heard of this show; I found it randomly on Amazon Prime. |
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