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Aug 20, 2020 2:26 PM

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That discussion turning into a rap battle was lit. Looks like they've cashed in Tamanawa's hand movements.

I thought Yuigahama's going to start another drama but it turns out that she just wants to hang out with Yukinoshita again after all this ordeal.
Aug 20, 2020 2:30 PM

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Hachiman is great, but Tamanawa is best everything with difference. Never thought he would appear again, and with a hecking rap battle to make things even better. By far best part of the episode.
Aug 20, 2020 2:34 PM

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That Rap battle, was unexpected but pretty great, a little cringy as I pretty much laughed my way through it at times, thinking when it will, only for it to happen again in the preview. Yui trying to record Hachiman rapping was the best bit!

The mocking of the Yahallo, I love how even Yui was like STOP IT! It's Yui's catchphrase, leave it alone! That makes me think, I think it's been ages since I last heard it. Or maybe I am just not as observant lately due to Yui's monologues.. the pain! This week's been less suffering!

That little talk between Yukino and Yui though, damn. We didn't get to see much of Yukino in the last episode, but this conversation between the two was quite interesting. I get what they are saying. Hachiman is completely aware of what's going on in front of him!
Aug 20, 2020 2:39 PM

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So when will Hachiman release his mixtape. Anyway this episode was legit fire so it was fitting.

It seems Hachiman's plan will reverse uno on him because he might end up making a better prom plan unintentiaonally by throwing in random bonker ideas.

I am kinda not a fan of how passive agressive Yui and Yukino are towards each other right now.
Aug 20, 2020 4:02 PM

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Lmao well the last thing I expected to see was a rap battle but it was hilarious.....cringey af, but still hilarious.
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Aug 20, 2020 4:26 PM

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5/5 episode again :)

Rap battle was funny but cringe too XD.
Aug 20, 2020 4:26 PM

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I cringed a lot at the rap stuff not gonna lie, was a very decent episode tho.
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Aug 20, 2020 4:36 PM

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I don't know if this is a feeling of jealousy or reassurance?
Aug 20, 2020 4:41 PM

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Yuigahama looks pretty when she is angry!
Aug 20, 2020 5:09 PM
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Wtf, why yukino is supporting cast in this season?..good episode but overall s3 is 6 or 7 compare to previous seasons.
Aug 20, 2020 5:26 PM

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The comedy this episode was awesome, even if cringey.

Hachiman really connects with the gaming club as fellow social outcasts lol. That part about how Hachiman was explaining Iroha was hilarious with how the gaming club members saying that he was definitely a man of experience and wisdom. As Yui said, Hachiman sure has a soft spot for Iroha, like a treasured kouhai.

That rap took me by surprise so much that I had to rewind it back a few seconds just to make sure my file wasn't corrupted or anything. It was cringe, but it was hilarious. Didn't expect the beat to come up at all! Although I do miss the foreign loanword-heavy jargon they used last season, this is a delight in its own right. The "Sore aru!"s really helped solidify the rap scene lol. Not to mention Yui being surprised by what Hikki was doing and then just deciding to record it.

Tanamawa trying to ask Orimoto out and then getting shot down before he even takes off was hilarious.

Man, I absolutely love Yahallo (and its derivative "Nyahallo" used by Sakura Miko but that's completely off topic). Yui being embarrassed was really beyond cute oh my goodness. Everyone saying "Yahallo" in such a flat tone was ridiculous as hell.

"Yamete." Oof, what a rare glare from Yui.

And then we reach the meat of the episode. It wouldn't be OreGairu by Studio feel. if it was just comedy. Hell, it wouldn't be OreGairu at all.

OreGairu really never hands everything on a platter to the viewer. You really need to read between the lines and see between the frames. It really doesn't think its audience is stupid and invites us to interpret for ourselves. It's exciting and interesting, but at the same time honestly I'm a bit saddened that sometimes it seems I can't pick up on what's happening underneath.

Instead of immediately going to Hayato, Hachiman decided to talk with Yukinon instead. Yukinon bought a can of MAX coffee which I think she never really drank before. Is that a nod towards her missing Hachiman? I have to admit their banter is fun to listen to. That's not to say that Yui and Hachiman's banter isn't fun to listen to, it's just that they're different types of fun.

Man, Yui's face when she came by Hachiman and Yukino. I'm not entirely sure what that expression is supposed to mean, but it certainly doesn't look happy or comfortable.

It's after this part that I'm uncertain, like I said before I'm not sure I understand what's underneath.

Why would Yukinon be avoiding Yui? And the wishes they spoke of. What exactly were they referring to? What is Yukino's wish? To break down the chains that bind them in their codependent relationship? Or does she deep down want to maintain the friendship, the three of them together in the Service Club? I can't help but think that her blossoming feelings for Hachiman are also playing a part.

Why did Yui say that Yukinon's dream definitely will not be granted? She can't possibly be talking about Yukinon x Hachiman. The last few episodes have shown us what Yui thinks: that it's not going to go her way. She knows very well that those two are in a world of their own, a place that she can't reach no matter how much she wants or tries to. That's why she's been spending as much time as she could with Hachiman, and shedding all those tears (my heart...). So I'm very sure Yui is talking about something else. Is it about Yukinon wanting to use her victory in the competition against Hachiman that stretches all the way back to season 1 to destroy their friendship?

And Yukinon hopes that Yui's wish will be granted. I have to guess what Yui's wish is. Perhaps it's two things, and not just one? I think one wish is that Yui wants the three of them to stay together, and she realises this wish on a clearer level than Yukinon does. But I think that Yukinon was also referring to Yui's wish to be with Hachiman. Yukinon wants to break the chains of their friendship, but at the same time somewhere in her heart she actually wishes to remain friends and wishes that things could stay the same, forever.

I think there's also some tension regarding their feelings for Hachiman. Because to stay completely the same and maintain the status quo, they'd need to not act on those feelings, something that both wants and not want at the same time. And the question is will they maintain the status quo and not do anything about their feelings, or to act and risk destroying their bonds?

Whatever the case, the interpretation, and the tension, that last moment was still heartwarming. Yui hugging Yukinon so tightly. Yukinon, who never really had any girl friends, has Yui who somehow isn't jealous of her to the point of hating her. I really want these girls to always remain friends, and they definitely want that too. I really want them both to be happy.

But still, Hachiman's monologue raises more questions. Although what he said was really true. Even if you know how to convey your feelings properly, you don't want to. Even though everything would be simpler that way. But I wonder what he was specifically referring to. And why exactly was he gazing at them with a prayer in his heart?

I think at this point we all know Yui's gonna get the short end of the stick. But even so, she'll still look after them until the end. Not gonna lie, I'm really sad about that still. Every time Yui shows a sad or conflicted expression, every time she cries, I feel like I want to cry along with her. She really deserves to be happy.

Despite the OP suggesting this season's focus will be Yukinon, we've had little of her so far. I do think the focus is still Yukinon, but we just don't see much of her onscreen. I kinda miss seeing the three interact and work together.

That rap at the end though, lol.

Another amazing episode of OreGairu. 6/5, 11/10. Can't wait for next week.

And does anyone share my interpretation? And can someone maybe explain some of the things I didn't get, or maybe where you think my interpretation was wrong?
Aug 20, 2020 6:04 PM

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That rap battle was HEAT. After credits one too.

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Aug 20, 2020 7:25 PM
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The introduction of the two characters at the beginning though lol. Those two gives me some comedy vibes. I also like the rap battle part between Hikky and the President. There's also a rap battle in the part of preview hahaha. At least they toned the drama a little bit.

That "Yahallo" part also makes me remember how iconic it is throughout the show. However, things started to escalate at the end when Yukino appears. It's just like how Hikky said: They are all sucks at conveying their true feelings.
Aug 20, 2020 7:29 PM
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That rap battle so cringe to watch I didnt expect to hachiman do that things.
Good episode
5/5
Aug 20, 2020 7:37 PM

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This might have been the greatest episode in anime History. Holy shit that Rap Scene was fucking GOLD!!! I need those gifs of Hikki and those hand movements. I was crying when Yui was just recording him. Holy shit that part was amazing.

Honestly though it was another great episode. It was nice to get Yukino and Hikki talking like old times for once. For Yukino to get the same coffee as Hachiman though...yeah that decided it bro.

Yukino and Yui both have the same with. I think it is fairly obvious what it is.

It's sad this is almost over but every episode has been fantastic. I even like the two new guys.
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Aug 20, 2020 8:52 PM

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Easily the funniest episode so far. I was laughing my ass off most of the times. The rap battle was absolutely fantastic. I never thought that we would see Hachiman rap. An easy 5/5.
Aug 20, 2020 9:08 PM
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Why did Yui say that Yukinon's dream definitely will not be granted? She can't possibly be talking about Yukinon x Hachiman. The last few episodes have shown us what Yui thinks: that it's not going to go her way. She knows very well that those two are in a world of their own, a place that she can't reach no matter how much she wants or tries to. That's why she's been spending as much time as she could with Hachiman, and shedding all those tears (my heart...). So I'm very sure Yui is talking about something else. Is it about Yukinon wanting to use her victory in the competition against Hachiman that stretches all the way back to season 1 to destroy their friendship?

And Yukinon hopes that Yui's wish will be granted. I have to guess what Yui's wish is. Perhaps it's two things, and not just one? I think one wish is that Yui wants the three of them to stay together, and she realises this wish on a clearer level than Yukinon does. But I think that Yukinon was also referring to Yui's wish to be with Hachiman. Yukinon wants to break the chains of their friendship, but at the same time somewhere in her heart she actually wishes to remain friends and wishes that things could stay the same, forever.

these girls to always remain friends, and they definitely want that too. I really want them both to be happy.

You know there could be multiple wishes for a human?

So I think I can double-mean what she said, as long as it fits the established narrative.

Yui still hopes she has a chance, that's why she said that, she has been spending alone time more with Hachiman, she knows Hachiman has feelings for Yukino but doesn’t know how to convey his feelings, so she is taking this chance to change the lie into truth.

Yui's wish is to stay beside Hachiman, and be friends with Yukino.
Yukino understands it, so she is playing the "sacrifice" play.
Aug 20, 2020 9:13 PM
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Loved the episode by far my fave this season, the rap bit was hilarious fu*k meeee sideways. Zaimokuza lowkey one f ym fave characters i genuinely find him funny as f*ck when hes on screen and makes the show much more enjoyable. I wasnt enjoying season 3 as much as I thought I would but then last episode and this one changed it a lot and I think zaimokuza and more comedy has helped with that.

Although that is the case, im sick of having yukino feel like a supporting character rather than a main character, please why did YUI ruin the scene at the end between the two. I just want some more romance between yukino and 8man. Please show us more yukino and have her feel like a main character for those last 5/6 episodes. Also kinda very confused about the their wishes but hope it all ends up in yukino and 8man together.

5/5 episode easilyyyyy
Aug 20, 2020 9:15 PM

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hand movement rap battle had me in tears
Aug 20, 2020 9:18 PM

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pretty nice episode, Hachiman's getting the basics down with club members, club names and such, nice seeing the other student council members again, and Komachi's birthday!

"Yahallo" protocol is finally initialised, we got our first of hopefully many of the season and may it guide you to victory brothers. No but fr i think i might set that as my notifications sound on my phone, love it to much. The Yui tease was pretty cute this episode, her reactions to there new club motto was cute as shit and definitely something worth fighting for, but her pout when Hachiman was describing how Iroha isn't actually that bad of a person using some interesting choice of words, was absolute quality.

Honestly that rap battle caught me so off guard i genuinely had to pause and check if the tea i was drinking wasn't spiked with something. Probably one of the funniest and most random things this anime could offer and honestly i wouldn't want it any other way, i could honestly imagine Eguchi Takuya and Hino Satoshi spitting bars in the recording studio with the most serious expressions about the most random topics possible.

Yukino and Hachiman scene was good, liked how she pointed out how he's changed by asking her hows she's been and such, but aaaaah the Yui and Yukino friendship is to wholesome for this world i swear ;-; Yui just wants things to go back to normal so she can hang out with Yukino more, but also wants to be noticed more by her. Aw i really hope they all get their happy endings, all in all the 3 have a really good friendship.
Aug 20, 2020 9:19 PM
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Can anyone comment on what their 'wishes' are? I thought Yui just wants the group to stay together and Yukino wants to be independent. But then Yukino said our wishes are probably the same. Oregairu always makes me think after every episode. Trying to truly understand their monologues and context. Big brain anime
Aug 20, 2020 9:19 PM
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That rap battle was everything I had hoped for! XD
Aug 20, 2020 9:21 PM
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What in the fuck did I just watch. Bench scene was nice and the trio back together was tense, but the rap battle takes the cake. Loved it
Aug 20, 2020 10:03 PM
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I don't think that's the reason Yui said that her wish wouldn't come true, it is a part, yes, but, I think she was mainly referring to Hachiman and Yukino not ending up together. And Yukino was trying to grant Yui's wish, which in Yukino's pov, I think she was mainly referring to Hachiman's relationship. But your reasoning is correct, just some parts are less important than others, like I don't think Yukino was referring to club, their friendship, hachiman altogether, but just Hachiman's relationship stuff. But do tell if I'm wrong and its explicitly stated in the LN or something, its been some time since I read it....

Yui thinks Yukino won't get Hachiman? There was no way she could think that way, she knew she had no chance and what she was doing right now was to maintain the status quo and try to be with Hachiman as long as she could. I said Yui knew Yukino's plan because the explanation was included in Yui's interlude which was not adapted in the anime.
Oh no no, Yui knows she has no chance, Hachiman won't allow that, but yeah,,I was just talking about what they implied with the wishes at that moment.
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I don't know if this is a feeling of jealousy or reassurance?
Jealousy.. she interupted the Hachiyuki moment by appearing in front of them directly.
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Shikkakku said:




Why did Yui say that Yukinon's dream definitely will not be granted? She can't possibly be talking about Yukinon x Hachiman. The last few episodes have shown us what Yui thinks: that it's not going to go her way. She knows very well that those two are in a world of their own, a place that she can't reach no matter how much she wants or tries to. That's why she's been spending as much time as she could with Hachiman, and shedding all those tears (my heart...). So I'm very sure Yui is talking about something else. Is it about Yukinon wanting to use her victory in the competition against Hachiman that stretches all the way back to season 1 to destroy their friendship?

And Yukinon hopes that Yui's wish will be granted. I have to guess what Yui's wish is. Perhaps it's two things, and not just one? I think one wish is that Yui wants the three of them to stay together, and she realises this wish on a clearer level than Yukinon does. But I think that Yukinon was also referring to Yui's wish to be with Hachiman. Yukinon wants to break the chains of their friendship, but at the same time somewhere in her heart she actually wishes to remain friends and wishes that things could stay the same, forever.

these girls to always remain friends, and they definitely want that too. I really want them both to be happy.

You know there could be multiple wishes for a human?

So I think I can double-mean what she said, as long as it fits the established narrative.

Yui still hopes she has a chance, that's why she said that, she has been spending alone time more with Hachiman, she knows Hachiman has feelings for Yukino but doesn’t know how to convey his feelings, so she is taking this chance to change the lie into truth.

Yui's wish is to stay beside Hachiman, and be friends with Yukino.
Yukino understands it, so she is playing the "sacrifice" play.


I see what you mean there. Yeah, I didn't mean that there could only be one wish but I wasn't sure how many wishes there were lol but the part about Yui makes a lot of sense now that I think about it. Even if the odds are against you, that doesn't mean there's no hope at all. So I guess Yui might be hoping that there's a chance for her where Yukino and Hachiman aren't honest and upfront about their feelings...
Aug 20, 2020 10:28 PM
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I love this series, but once again, this season is too sadddd...that rap scene is unexpected but hilarious hahaha. I think Hikigaya doesn't have choice but to take this prom seriously, maybe he can take it easy and let Yukino win, but that's not the point...and Yuiii, really I love Yui this season more than before, really positive girl and really cheerful but yeah really soft inside and cares about her friends soo much...lovable person...and when she hugs Yukino, I know that she really cares about her too...
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The comedy this episode was awesome, even if cringey.

Hachiman really connects with the gaming club as fellow social outcasts lol. That part about how Hachiman was explaining Iroha was hilarious with how the gaming club members saying that he was definitely a man of experience and wisdom. As Yui said, Hachiman sure has a soft spot for Iroha, like a treasured kouhai.

That rap took me by surprise so much that I had to rewind it back a few seconds just to make sure my file wasn't corrupted or anything. It was cringe, but it was hilarious. Didn't expect the beat to come up at all! Although I do miss the foreign loanword-heavy jargon they used last season, this is a delight in its own right. The "Sore aru!"s really helped solidify the rap scene lol. Not to mention Yui being surprised by what Hikki was doing and then just deciding to record it.

Tanamawa trying to ask Orimoto out and then getting shot down before he even takes off was hilarious.

Man, I absolutely love Yahallo (and its derivative "Nyahallo" used by Sakura Miko but that's completely off topic). Yui being embarrassed was really beyond cute oh my goodness. Everyone saying "Yahallo" in such a flat tone was ridiculous as hell.

"Yamete." Oof, what a rare glare from Yui.

And then we reach the meat of the episode. It wouldn't be OreGairu by Studio feel. if it was just comedy. Hell, it wouldn't be OreGairu at all.

OreGairu really never hands everything on a platter to the viewer. You really need to read between the lines and see between the frames. It really doesn't think its audience is stupid and invites us to interpret for ourselves. It's exciting and interesting, but at the same time honestly I'm a bit saddened that sometimes it seems I can't pick up on what's happening underneath.

Instead of immediately going to Hayato, Hachiman decided to talk with Yukinon instead. Yukinon bought a can of MAX coffee which I think she never really drank before. Is that a nod towards her missing Hachiman? I have to admit their banter is fun to listen to. That's not to say that Yui and Hachiman's banter isn't fun to listen to, it's just that they're different types of fun.

Man, Yui's face when she came by Hachiman and Yukino. I'm not entirely sure what that expression is supposed to mean, but it certainly doesn't look happy or comfortable.

It's after this part that I'm uncertain, like I said before I'm not sure I understand what's underneath.

Why would Yukinon be avoiding Yui? And the wishes they spoke of. What exactly were they referring to? What is Yukino's wish? To break down the chains that bind them in their codependent relationship? Or does she deep down want to maintain the friendship, the three of them together in the Service Club? I can't help but think that her blossoming feelings for Hachiman are also playing a part.

Why did Yui say that Yukinon's dream definitely will not be granted? She can't possibly be talking about Yukinon x Hachiman. The last few episodes have shown us what Yui thinks: that it's not going to go her way. She knows very well that those two are in a world of their own, a place that she can't reach no matter how much she wants or tries to. That's why she's been spending as much time as she could with Hachiman, and shedding all those tears (my heart...). So I'm very sure Yui is talking about something else. Is it about Yukinon wanting to use her victory in the competition against Hachiman that stretches all the way back to season 1 to destroy their friendship?

And Yukinon hopes that Yui's wish will be granted. I have to guess what Yui's wish is. Perhaps it's two things, and not just one? I think one wish is that Yui wants the three of them to stay together, and she realises this wish on a clearer level than Yukinon does. But I think that Yukinon was also referring to Yui's wish to be with Hachiman. Yukinon wants to break the chains of their friendship, but at the same time somewhere in her heart she actually wishes to remain friends and wishes that things could stay the same, forever.

I think there's also some tension regarding their feelings for Hachiman. Because to stay completely the same and maintain the status quo, they'd need to not act on those feelings, something that both wants and not want at the same time. And the question is will they maintain the status quo and not do anything about their feelings, or to act and risk destroying their bonds?

Whatever the case, the interpretation, and the tension, that last moment was still heartwarming. Yui hugging Yukinon so tightly. Yukinon, who never really had any girl friends, has Yui who somehow isn't jealous of her to the point of hating her. I really want these girls to always remain friends, and they definitely want that too. I really want them both to be happy.

But still, Hachiman's monologue raises more questions. Although what he said was really true. Even if you know how to convey your feelings properly, you don't want to. Even though everything would be simpler that way. But I wonder what he was specifically referring to. And why exactly was he gazing at them with a prayer in his heart?

I think at this point we all know Yui's gonna get the short end of the stick. But even so, she'll still look after them until the end. Not gonna lie, I'm really sad about that still. Every time Yui shows a sad or conflicted expression, every time she cries, I feel like I want to cry along with her. She really deserves to be happy.

Despite the OP suggesting this season's focus will be Yukinon, we've had little of her so far. I do think the focus is still Yukinon, but we just don't see much of her onscreen. I kinda miss seeing the three interact and work together.

That rap at the end though, lol.

Another amazing episode of OreGairu. 6/5, 11/10. Can't wait for next week.

And does anyone share my interpretation? And can someone maybe explain some of the things I didn't get, or maybe where you think my interpretation was wrong?


When Yui said Yukino's wish won't come true, she was mainly referring to Yukino and Hachiman ending together, but then Yukino says that she wishes wishes Yui's wish would come true(mainly referring to Yui and hachiman now). Yui doubts if she heard right and asks Yukino if she knows Yui's wish, Yukino says it the same as her wish(feelings for Hachiman and wishing to end up with him). Yui after getring Yukino's conformation is elated and immediately goes to hugher becaue she fells guilty amd promises to be with her after the prom and also have outings. Yukino says she wants Yui's wish to come true because of the reasons. First, the seed of codependency that Haruno planted in her, so Yukino thinks that she and Hachiman have a codependent relationship, so she wants to end it but not her friendship with Yui though, Yukino doesnt think Hachiman and her can have only friendship bcz, season 1 last episode, she says that she cant be friends with him, ie if Hachiman does end up with Yui, she will not meet him, bcz it will hurt her, but Yui is forcing her now to meet with them regardless after the prom, so now she's conflicted. Ofcourse that is if Yui ends up with Hachiman, Hachiman's wishes are also included here so he'll do something.


And at the end there, Hachiman's monologue, I think you have it mistaken, Hachiman was referring to only one person there. He uses "she", and she is Yukino, and says that she can express her emotions easily and this can all be avoided. And while he's looking at Yukino he states, that his prayes be heard too(his prayers mean, his wish to end up with.... y'know) Rewatching that last part scene should clarify stuff.
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Truffle_Butters said:
Can anyone comment on what their 'wishes' are? I thought Yui just wants the group to stay together and Yukino wants to be independent. But then Yukino said our wishes are probably the same. Oregairu always makes me think after every episode. Trying to truly understand their monologues and context. Big brain anime
Yukino and Yui were mainly talking about their relationship with hachiman as the wish.
Aug 20, 2020 10:36 PM
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Lmao that rap battle was badass yo. Hachiman has got the sickest of beats and the debate man is wild too. The ending of this episode was very touching.
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Truffle_Butters said:
Can anyone comment on what their 'wishes' are? I thought Yui just wants the group to stay together and Yukino wants to be independent. But then Yukino said our wishes are probably the same. Oregairu always makes me think after every episode. Trying to truly understand their monologues and context. Big brain anime
In the given situation , Yui's wish would mean "to stay friends even after everything ends". But it could easily be interpreted as "I will take Hachiman and our friendship (the trio) will still remain the same". That's why she said, " But I'll make sure Yukinon's wish won't be granted, " because Yukino wants to end the service club, and also you know.....

So she wants everything, Hachiman as her bf and Yukino as her best friend. On the other hand, Yukino has more or less same wish. Yukino understands Yui's wish, but...

She thinks she has been a hassle in Hachiman's life, she is also watching Hachiman and Yui spending more time together,so she doesn't want to hurt her only friend, so she is giving up on him.
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A_G_N said:
Shikkakku said:
The comedy this episode was awesome, even if cringey.

Hachiman really connects with the gaming club as fellow social outcasts lol. That part about how Hachiman was explaining Iroha was hilarious with how the gaming club members saying that he was definitely a man of experience and wisdom. As Yui said, Hachiman sure has a soft spot for Iroha, like a treasured kouhai.

That rap took me by surprise so much that I had to rewind it back a few seconds just to make sure my file wasn't corrupted or anything. It was cringe, but it was hilarious. Didn't expect the beat to come up at all! Although I do miss the foreign loanword-heavy jargon they used last season, this is a delight in its own right. The "Sore aru!"s really helped solidify the rap scene lol. Not to mention Yui being surprised by what Hikki was doing and then just deciding to record it.

Tanamawa trying to ask Orimoto out and then getting shot down before he even takes off was hilarious.

Man, I absolutely love Yahallo (and its derivative "Nyahallo" used by Sakura Miko but that's completely off topic). Yui being embarrassed was really beyond cute oh my goodness. Everyone saying "Yahallo" in such a flat tone was ridiculous as hell.

"Yamete." Oof, what a rare glare from Yui.

And then we reach the meat of the episode. It wouldn't be OreGairu by Studio feel. if it was just comedy. Hell, it wouldn't be OreGairu at all.

OreGairu really never hands everything on a platter to the viewer. You really need to read between the lines and see between the frames. It really doesn't think its audience is stupid and invites us to interpret for ourselves. It's exciting and interesting, but at the same time honestly I'm a bit saddened that sometimes it seems I can't pick up on what's happening underneath.

Instead of immediately going to Hayato, Hachiman decided to talk with Yukinon instead. Yukinon bought a can of MAX coffee which I think she never really drank before. Is that a nod towards her missing Hachiman? I have to admit their banter is fun to listen to. That's not to say that Yui and Hachiman's banter isn't fun to listen to, it's just that they're different types of fun.

Man, Yui's face when she came by Hachiman and Yukino. I'm not entirely sure what that expression is supposed to mean, but it certainly doesn't look happy or comfortable.

It's after this part that I'm uncertain, like I said before I'm not sure I understand what's underneath.

Why would Yukinon be avoiding Yui? And the wishes they spoke of. What exactly were they referring to? What is Yukino's wish? To break down the chains that bind them in their codependent relationship? Or does she deep down want to maintain the friendship, the three of them together in the Service Club? I can't help but think that her blossoming feelings for Hachiman are also playing a part.

Why did Yui say that Yukinon's dream definitely will not be granted? She can't possibly be talking about Yukinon x Hachiman. The last few episodes have shown us what Yui thinks: that it's not going to go her way. She knows very well that those two are in a world of their own, a place that she can't reach no matter how much she wants or tries to. That's why she's been spending as much time as she could with Hachiman, and shedding all those tears (my heart...). So I'm very sure Yui is talking about something else. Is it about Yukinon wanting to use her victory in the competition against Hachiman that stretches all the way back to season 1 to destroy their friendship?

And Yukinon hopes that Yui's wish will be granted. I have to guess what Yui's wish is. Perhaps it's two things, and not just one? I think one wish is that Yui wants the three of them to stay together, and she realises this wish on a clearer level than Yukinon does. But I think that Yukinon was also referring to Yui's wish to be with Hachiman. Yukinon wants to break the chains of their friendship, but at the same time somewhere in her heart she actually wishes to remain friends and wishes that things could stay the same, forever.

I think there's also some tension regarding their feelings for Hachiman. Because to stay completely the same and maintain the status quo, they'd need to not act on those feelings, something that both wants and not want at the same time. And the question is will they maintain the status quo and not do anything about their feelings, or to act and risk destroying their bonds?

Whatever the case, the interpretation, and the tension, that last moment was still heartwarming. Yui hugging Yukinon so tightly. Yukinon, who never really had any girl friends, has Yui who somehow isn't jealous of her to the point of hating her. I really want these girls to always remain friends, and they definitely want that too. I really want them both to be happy.

But still, Hachiman's monologue raises more questions. Although what he said was really true. Even if you know how to convey your feelings properly, you don't want to. Even though everything would be simpler that way. But I wonder what he was specifically referring to. And why exactly was he gazing at them with a prayer in his heart?

I think at this point we all know Yui's gonna get the short end of the stick. But even so, she'll still look after them until the end. Not gonna lie, I'm really sad about that still. Every time Yui shows a sad or conflicted expression, every time she cries, I feel like I want to cry along with her. She really deserves to be happy.

Despite the OP suggesting this season's focus will be Yukinon, we've had little of her so far. I do think the focus is still Yukinon, but we just don't see much of her onscreen. I kinda miss seeing the three interact and work together.

That rap at the end though, lol.

Another amazing episode of OreGairu. 6/5, 11/10. Can't wait for next week.

And does anyone share my interpretation? And can someone maybe explain some of the things I didn't get, or maybe where you think my interpretation was wrong?


When Yui said Yukino's wish won't come true, she was mainly referring to Yukino and Hachiman ending together, but then Yukino says that she wishes wishes Yui's wish would come true(mainly referring to Yui and hachiman now). Yui doubts if she heard right and asks Yukino if she knows Yui's wish, Yukino says it the same as her wish(feelings for Hachiman and wishing to end up with him). Yui after getring Yukino's conformation is elated and immediately goes to hugher becaue she fells guilty amd promises to be with her after the prom and also have outings. Yukino says she wants Yui's wish to come true because of the reasons. First, the seed of codependency that Haruno planted in her, so Yukino thinks that she and Hachiman have a codependent relationship, so she wants to end it but not her friendship with Yui though, Yukino doesnt think Hachiman and her can have only friendship bcz, season 1 last episode, she says that she cant be friends with him, ie if Hachiman does end up with Yui, she will not meet him, bcz it will hurt her, but Yui is forcing her now to meet with them regardless after the prom, so now she's conflicted. Ofcourse that is if Yui ends up with Hachiman, Hachiman's wishes are also included here so he'll do something.


And at the end there, Hachiman's monologue, I think you have it mistaken, Hachiman was referring to only one person there. He uses "she", and she is Yukino, and says that she can express her emotions easily and this can all be avoided. And while he's looking at Yukino he states, that his prayes be heard too(his prayers mean, his wish to end up with.... y'know) Rewatching that last part scene should clarify stuff.


Ah, I see. I'm conflicted about a pure love-centric interpretation since I'm not sure how much of it is love and how much of it is about stuff like their codependency. But then again just like you said Yukino may view her relationship with Hachiman as codependent which involves her own feelings so I guess it is also possible that we can't really simply just separate the love and non-love reasons and that they might just be very much tangled together.

If that's true, to think that her statement that she thinks they won't ever be friends would end up like this, out of love and not hatred, is certainly interesting.

As for the monologue, I did know that he was only referring to one person ("she"), I was just sort of confused who he was referring to. I guessed it was Yukino, but I was doubting myself lol
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Truffle_Butters said:
Can anyone comment on what their 'wishes' are? I thought Yui just wants the group to stay together and Yukino wants to be independent. But then Yukino said our wishes are probably the same. Oregairu always makes me think after every episode. Trying to truly understand their monologues and context. Big brain anime
In the given situation , Yui's wish would mean "to stay friends even after everything ends". But it could easily be interpreted as "I will take Hachiman and our friendship (the trio) will still remain the same". That's why she said, " But I'll make sure Yukinon's wish won't be granted, " because Yukino wants to end the service club, and also you know.....

So she wants everything, Hachiman as her bf and Yukino as her best friend. On the other hand, Yukino has more or less same wish. Yukino understands Yui's wish, but...

She thinks she has been a hassle in Hachiman's life, she is also watching Hachiman and Yui spending more time together,so she doesn't want to hurt her only friend, so she is giving up on him.
Thanks for the reply, my thoughts on this is basically the same as urs
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Can anyone comment on what their 'wishes' are? I thought Yui just wants the group to stay together and Yukino wants to be independent. But then Yukino said our wishes are probably the same. Oregairu always makes me think after every episode. Trying to truly understand their monologues and context. Big brain anime
In the given situation , Yui's wish would mean "to stay friends even after everything ends". But it could easily be interpreted as "I will take Hachiman and our friendship (the trio) will still remain the same". That's why she said, " But I'll make sure Yukinon's wish won't be granted, " because Yukino wants to end the service club, and also you know.....

So she wants everything, Hachiman as her bf and Yukino as her best friend. On the other hand, Yukino has more or less same wish. Yukino understands Yui's wish, but...

She thinks she has been a hassle in Hachiman's life, she is also watching Hachiman and Yui spending more time together,so she doesn't want to hurt her only friend, so she is giving up on him.
So in this sense it kinda seems like Yui is more or less selfish rather than Yukino who is willing to give up Hikki
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NakolHira said:
In the given situation , Yui's wish would mean "to stay friends even after everything ends". But it could easily be interpreted as "I will take Hachiman and our friendship (the trio) will still remain the same". That's why she said, " But I'll make sure Yukinon's wish won't be granted, " because Yukino wants to end the service club, and also you know.....

So she wants everything, Hachiman as her bf and Yukino as her best friend. On the other hand, Yukino has more or less same wish. Yukino understands Yui's wish, but...

She thinks she has been a hassle in Hachiman's life, she is also watching Hachiman and Yui spending more time together,so she doesn't want to hurt her only friend, so she is giving up on him.
So in this sense it kinda seems like Yui is more or less selfish rather than Yukino who is willing to give up Hikki
yes, but that's not the problem. If you want to achieve something for yourself, you should be selfish.

Problem is Yui knows Hachiman doesn’t have any romantic feelings (only friendly feelings) for her yet she still clings to him, waiting to change his mind. Trying? Not much, rather she does the exact same thing Hachiman dislikes (faking sleep, contrast to Genuine)
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Did not expect a rap battle XD
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Yahallo!

Wait no Birthday episode for Komachi?! No extra points for you!

Other than that it was great, Hilarious rapping battle.
Yui noticed that Hiki has a soft spot for Iroha was cute.
So good, next episode fast pls xD
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Finally the series started to kick in, awesome episode. So far the best of the season. I think next episode will gonna be more awesome with hayama comes in and there's scene of haruno also.
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Funniest rap scene ever. Each and every episode this season are as great as they can be. Comedy and emotion overflow!
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A great episode overall, but the obvious highlight was the rap battle. I really liked the emotional scene in the end. Can't wait for next week's episode.
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So in this sense it kinda seems like Yui is more or less selfish rather than Yukino who is willing to give up Hikki
yes, but that's not the problem. If you want to achieve something for yourself, you should be selfish.

Problem is Yui knows Hachiman doesn’t have any romantic feelings (only friendly feelings) for her yet she still clings to him, waiting to change his mind. Trying? Not much, rather she does the exact same thing Hachiman dislikes (faking sleep, contrast to Genuine)
damn man, the storm is coming:(
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lol the hand movement guy is back

and the rap battle tho so ridiculous lmao. most of the animation budget goes to their hand movement animation for sure
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It's gonna be White Album 2 all over again. Which is great. Now let's just hope that it's gonna be a happy ending for everyone. Even if it's impossible.
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Yow what is yukino or yui's promise that yui mentioned
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Hikigaya Best Rapper!


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This episode was cringeworthy to watch, and the show is turning Hachiman into an absolute caricature of himself for the sake of "comedy".

It was a nice break from the constant drama I suppose, but this episode is the last straw for me: this season has worn me thin and I just don't care anymore. Not about this prom, not about the romance, not about any of it. It's a real shame, too, as I adored season 2 but I just can't force myself to slog through this melodramatic, childish, cringeworthy mess anymore, even though we aren't far from the end at all.

EDIT: Should say I do still respect the quality of the writing of this series in terms of its sheer depth and nuance for the characters, but unfortunately once you lose that emotional connection and stop caring about what's happening, it doesn't matter how objectively well written something is. I've looked up spoilers for the LN ending (I think it sounds pretty shitty, to be honest), so with that I'm done with Oregairu. I think I've just moved on in life from the point where this series resonates with me anymore.
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I read light novel and I know yui is being selfish but you know what oregairu is close to real life situation.. If you see it by yui's POV that's what real life person will do.. I am seeing lot of people bashing her but y'all don't want to understand her character, try to put yourself in her shoes... My favorite one is yukino and I want her and 8man to be together desperately but at the same time I understand yui's behavior if any one of you any point of your life go through what yui's is going you'll understand her character rather than bashing and calling out her.. as much as I want yukino to be with 8man, I just want people to understand why yui's is acting like that, because that's what real life person will do. We like yukino more that does not mean it qualify us to bash yui.. Put yourself in her shoo.. Yeah I know LN reader gonna bash her, I am one of the LN reader but POV matters, I am not gonna go and start ranting about selfish and manipulative behavior i rather understand it through real life perspective..
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I don't know if this is a feeling of jealousy or reassurance?
Jealousy.. she interupted the Hachiyuki moment by appearing in front of them directly.


I have a feeling that this anime will have an unhappy ending!
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amazing episode as usually !!!
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The highlight of the episode had to be the rap battle between Hachiman and Tamanawa, the hand-gesture guy returning from season 2. It was mostly unexpected and it was pretty cringey. Despite that, I was loving EVERY SECOND of it. XD

This rap alone is better than most of the rap that I end up hearing on the radio here in the U.K, which could be a good or bad thing, depending on your musical preferences.

The rest of the episode was great. I do miss Yui saying her awesome "Yahallo!", so hearing her saying it again made me smile. Zaimokusa and his acquaintances had some pretty amusing moments with their dialogue and reactions to Hachiman and Yui, but their plan is going along smoothly so far.

The last scene had a nice talk between Hachiman and Yukino, before Yui came along and her talk with Yukino was bittersweet. I just want to give Yui a nice head pat, the poor girl. =(

I do look forward to the episode, which the preview had another short rap battle that Hachiman conceded defeat against Tamanawa. Sadly, the next episode does have more Haruno, so I expect her to be as irritating as usual once more...
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