Nekopara Episode 9 Discussion

DrMurdoch said:
So this episode was almost basicly Nekopara 3 without the Hentai parts

Marinate1016 said:
Kinda saddens me how people aren't watching this as much as the first episode anymore and that the MAL ratings have dipped. I guess people came for the ecchi and didn't stay when they saw it wasn't there. I've really been enjoying the series. I love these character and relationship building episodes a lot. I felt that slap through the TV. Got some really good Cinnamon and Maple development and it's nice to see Cinnamon's character go beyond "I'm moist".

Great way to start off the end of the weekend

Marinate1016 said:
Kinda saddens me how people aren't watching this as much as the first episode anymore and that the MAL ratings have dipped. I guess people came for the ecchi and didn't stay when they saw it wasn't there. I've really been enjoying the series. I love these character and relationship building episodes a lot. I felt that slap through the TV. Got some really good Cinnamon and Maple development and it's nice to see Cinnamon's character go beyond "I'm moist".

Great way to start off the end of the weekend

Diapolo10 said:
I can tell that this episode was basically a reworked Volume 3, but... I'm not complaining. Where there's Cinnamon, there's greatness!

ネコ耳協力 vanillanium

Cat Ear Support vanillanium

Rider9530 said:
I hate this adaptation... i just wanted them to adapt this normally...

truesord24 said:



According to vanillanium's website, it looks like they sell animal-inspired Ear and Tail accessories.

So yeah, they are serious enough about depicting Anime Catgirl ears accurately that they consulted(?) a professional nekomimi maker before drawing them.

Ether_Real said:
-reading above does people really upset about the lack of H? It's a narration in VN sure, but here it's unnecessary, I'm glad they take that out in the anime as it should be.

truesord24 said:
Those people really are hopeless... I mean, they actually cared about the "romance" with the bland excuse of a self-insert and fucking Anime Catgirls... Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with the sex scenes and I even played the VN but they are just vanilla as fuck; there's nothing interesting or creative in them, neither is the "romance" leading up to them particularly well-done either.

If you people are so thirsty that you have to see some 'hot' catgirl actions, go find any catgirl hentai / eroge and jerk off to them - that will probably satisfy you.

And even if you think the Nekopara Anime is a just a crappy SOL, at least they are trying to be original, unlike some companies who play it safe and reuse the same shit over and over again with no thought whatsoever. You people just can't seem to accept something being different than what you are used to.

Kestisan said:

Well, excuse me for expecting romance from an anime tagged as "comedy, romance" and that is based on a Visual Novel where the funny situations and the love relationships are the main topic.

Kestisan said:

Just take a look at Kashou and Shigure, the protagonist and the catgirls' owner, their characters are highly important in the games but here they are treated like some sort of boring extras. Who was the one who earned the trust of Chocola and Vanilla and helped them adapt to their new home? Who had the idea of hiring the catgirls and herself as employees of the patisserie? Who helped Coconut learn there is nothing wrong about being childish? Who acknowledged Azuki's skills first? Who showed Cinnamon that is OK to be a bit more selfish? Who made Maple realize that being a catgirl doesn't stop you from fighting for your dreams? The anime altered all of this and so the deveplopment of every other character in the anime, that ruined everything.

Kestisan said:

This animation might be entertaining to someone who's not familiar with the game series but to someone who is and expected this with a great hype, this is nothing but a huge disappoinment. Not being able to accept something different is one thing, but not being able to accept just anything is another so don't blame me for not liking this awful "adaptation".

truesord24 said:

You know what I think? The MAL mods know fuck-all about the TV Anime and just assumed it will the same as the Nekopara OVA / VN even though this is clearly not the case, ever since a few episodes in (and it might even be earlier if say, for example, the Japanese company presented it as an anime original; not an adaptation. Too bad we'll never know since MAL couldn't be bothered to check). Even now, they still haven't done anything to fix this.

Ether_Real said:

So I guess use of the word "adaptation" is not supposed to.. When Cacao appeared I thought she was added in for a change of story, being "original" never cross my mind the entire time smh

Also good to be reminded :)

truesord24 said:
Not everything in the world stays the same and always to your exact liking. So at least try and learn to have a more flexible outlook when it comes enjoying media - it'll save yourself a lot of pain.

Kestisan said:

If I was that fussy I would've already dropped the anime by episode 3 Instead, I decided to watch it to the end in order to find something worthy, even though it was a bit hard for me to stand the change of voices. So far, Cacao's debut, the soundtrack and the artworks from the endings are the only things I truly liked while watching this show. That should give you a couple of ideas about my disappointment. Naturally, when it's announced that a Visual Novel will get a TV production people tend to think that is going to be an adaptation of the same setting because that's what generally happens, just like Danganronpan or Steins;Gate. Well, neither NEKO WORKs or Felix Film gave any hints over the anime displaying an original story, ever. So, can you blame me for expecting the most probable outcome? That is precissely why there is a good amount of people complaining about this anime, dropping it and even aguing with those who think of them as wankers that wanted porn and nothing else.

Nekopara Novels' success was thanks to its art style, characters design, idle/dynamic animations and off course, its harem narrative and sexual content. The anime ignored most of this and replaced it with slice-of-life, which is not its best feature and even if we wanted some, we already have the Vol. 0 and Extra, those are short games but I tell you that these are way better than the cheap comedy you see in the anime. Is there ever going to be an episode that can prove Cinnamon's pervertion isn't the most exploited gag? It shouldn't be a surprise that the ratings are getting worse per episode.

At this rate, even I can figure out that this anime is not an adaptation (that's why I used "") but, what is it then? some kind of Spin-Off maybe? Either way is not convincing for anyone who has been following the series from the start. Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely nothing against studios picking and original work and turning it into something alternative. CD Project did that with The Witcher Saga and the result was one of the best videogame series of all time. Nekopara on the other hand is not that great, not good either, is mediocre at best. Stagnation points, no respect for the original main roles and characters doing thing they never did before and were never meant to do (for instance, slapping someone in the face), thats all I can perceive from a production like this.

I do understand my standards are not as simple as yours, but that is no reason for someone like you to be stating that I just have to enjoy things without thinking to much. I can do that at some extent, but everyone has its limits and to some of us, this anime was a terrible mistake from the very beginning. Sorry, but I guess the only thing we can both agree on is that the MAL mods are nothing but a bunch of lazy asses.

truesord24 said:
Fair arguments. I don't agree with everything you say but at least now I understand more about the "why" behind the opposite side.

One thing that I might not have made clear earlier on is that my previous post wasn't directed specifically at you. It was intended to be a rant of my frustration against those group of complainers who would come in every Episode discussion and say a few lines among the lines of "this anime sucks" or "VN is superior" and nothing else, saying nothing meaningful regarding the episode itself. It doesn't help that each time they do, it's always the same 1 or 2 arguments. This kind of toxicity is jarring because it only seems to plague MAL, not (for example) reddit, where the majority of the comments are actual civil discussion about the anime itself. Why those people can't just leave us alone? You guys have your salt/bait thread on this forum so go and express your disappointments there instead.

And of course, I had to take a jab at the MAL mods because it was the perfect opportunity to do so. The more people aware of their incompetence, the more likely change is going to come by.

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Btw, what's with you reposting your response multiple times in short successions? I literally received like 6 emails saying "Kestisan quoted you.". You could just edit your post and fix any spelling/grammar mistakes, you know.

Kestisan said:
But you can't deny that the VN is superior by far and that is nothing to feel bad about. This is Nekopara, not Fate/Stay Night, of course the anime doesn't match the game charm, specially not in this case..

truesord24 said:
Oh, you got me all wrong. I'm not one of those "anime fanatics" who thinks anime is the best thing in the world.
In fact, if something exists as both VN & Anime: I believe Visual Novel is the superior medium over Anime (for story-telling and character development) in almost every case, provided the company knows what they do doing and everything is handled elegantly. imho, anime as a medium is overrated and starting to become a normie activity.

But also notice I said "almost every case". My earlier complaints about the lacklustre handling of VN Nekopara's H-scenes still stand.

It was the aggressiveness (and imo, arrogance) of those anime haters/complainers that rub me the wrong way.

Kestisan said:

As a matter of fact I'm not a big fan of H-scenes. Whenever I play an eroge, I'm used to play those events once and never repeat them again because they are usually longer that what they should be. Nekopara is not the exception, I started following it for the characters and the story, which is not a big deal but is easy and attractive enough to like it. Adore good anime, abhor bad productions, that's my newest motto.

Stay safe and remember, aggressiveness and arrogance are like a hole in a paper, if there is in one side, be sure there is in the other too. Glad to finally see you are different, hope you think the same of me now.

amlg said:
Other note....

You guys are reading too much into the genres...

Everyone knows Nekopara got popular due to it's high Hentai community.

But the whole reason for this anime is literally kickstarted by that Hentai community... which majority wanted the anime to be "whole some and family friendly" so they can introduce Nekopara to all ages and not just Teen~Adult+

There are a lot of other Hentai to Anime adaptation that do the same. (they change genres to fit, especially when time slots are limited) (most anime would like Day slots over Night because it gets a lot more viewers)

If people wanted to see Nekopara as it's original source... then just go watch the original Hentai/game that already exists...

Kestisan said:

and for some reason nobody can explain, the patisserie only ever has female clients. What did they do this for?

Kestisan said:

the voices aren't the same

truesord24 said:
I've heard that there ARE male characters in Vol. 3, but I haven't gotten that far yet. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

Kestisan said:
I'm not quite sure about this, but this has something to do with R18 and non-R18 (or Mainstream media) voice actors technically being different roles/classes, if that makes any sense. It might be that Hentai voice actors are frown upon in "family-friendly" anime productions.