| The movie trilogy leading up to this film made many changes to the original story. In particular, the fate of the character Shirley. Were there concerns that such a sweeping change would affect Lelouch's character motivations too much? Gorou Taniguchi: We judged that the remaining motivation (Euphemia's fate, for example) was sufficient for this set of movies. And with the character Shirley, specifically... the more we portray Shirley, the more it becomes the story of Lelouch and Shirley. And that's more the direction that we wanted to take it now with this story. We created this film with the vision that Shirley represents peace and normality. source https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1779623 so that might be the reason why Shirley is alive now |
| Idc since CG pretty much went downhill in s2 with having a lot of plot holes. |
The word elitist is stupid since it's just used by people who can't defend their favorite shows and use it on people who criticize their favorite shows.  |
GreenClock said: Idc since CG pretty much went downhill in s2 with having a lot of plot holes. S2 got plot holes? i heard this movie got plot holes but not the original TV series so examples of those plot holes you have in mind? |
deg said: There are too many and I haven't watched CG s2 from ages but from the ones I remember are GreenClock said: Idc since CG pretty much went downhill in s2 with having a lot of plot holes. S2 got plot holes? i heard this movie got plot holes but not the original TV series so examples of those plot holes you have in mind? |
| The word elitist is stupid since it's just used by people who can't defend their favorite shows and use it on people who criticize their favorite shows. |
twoego said: deg said: I don't remember too well, but a notable example would be everyone having the full Zero costume out of nowhere.S2 got plot holes? i heard this movie got plot holes but not the original TV series so examples of those plot holes you have in mind? welp i do not remember that anymore lol but Lelouch can do mass command via Geass though beforehand so they could have prepared it for a long while @GreenClock hmm ok, i only skimmed the new movie trilogy anyway just to see the new animated parts |
deg said: No he just twoego said: I don't remember too well, but a notable example would be everyone having the full Zero costume out of nowhere. welp i do not remember that anymore lol but Lelouch can do mass command via Geass though beforehand so they could have prepared it for a long while |
| The word elitist is stupid since it's just used by people who can't defend their favorite shows and use it on people who criticize their favorite shows. |
| After watching the new movie I just don't see how that would happen. I'm pretty sure they left Shirley alive in the movies because they didn't have the time for her arc to play out so there was no point in killing her. |
Tsarko said: After watching the new movie I just don't see how that would happen. I'm pretty sure they left Shirley alive in the movies because they didn't have the time for her arc to play out so there was no point in killing her. well this movie is a start of a 10 year plan for Code Geass so there is plenty of time to develop Shirley as the endgame lover of Lelouch |
deg said: Tsarko said: After watching the new movie I just don't see how that would happen. I'm pretty sure they left Shirley alive in the movies because they didn't have the time for her arc to play out so there was no point in killing her. well this movie is a start of a 10 year plan for Code Geass so there is plenty of time to develop Shirley as the endgame lover of Lelouch As you said there are at least 10 years more of CG ahead of us and anything could happen, and maybe even Shirley x Lelouch. But with everything that has happened thus far, especially with C.C. and Leleouch L.L., I don't see it happening. End of the movie kinda confirmed Leleouch x C.C.. Also in one of the interviews, Taniguchi stated that the ending scene was Lelouch proposing to C.C. in his own way. (Source) I don't think story will change direction in regards to Lelouch pairings. |
Tsarko said: deg said: well this movie is a start of a 10 year plan for Code Geass so there is plenty of time to develop Shirley as the endgame lover of Lelouch As you said there are at least 10 years more of CG ahead of us and anything could happen, and maybe even Shirley x Lelouch. But with everything that has happened thus far, especially with C.C. and Leleouch L.L., I don't see it happening. End of the movie kinda confirmed Leleouch x C.C.. Also in one of the interviews, Taniguchi stated that the ending scene was Lelouch proposing to C.C. in his own way. (Source) I don't think story will change direction in regards to Lelouch pairings. thats new info to me and its interesting maybe Shirley and Lelouch is just gonna emphasize the difference in worldview/philosophy then rather than doing romantic pairing |
deg said: Tsarko said: As you said there are at least 10 years more of CG ahead of us and anything could happen, and maybe even Shirley x Lelouch. But with everything that has happened thus far, especially with C.C. and Leleouch L.L., I don't see it happening. End of the movie kinda confirmed Leleouch x C.C.. Also in one of the interviews, Taniguchi stated that the ending scene was Lelouch proposing to C.C. in his own way. (Source) I don't think story will change direction in regards to Lelouch pairings. thats new info to me and its interesting maybe Shirley and Lelouch is just gonna emphasize the difference in worldview/philosophy then rather than doing romantic pairing Guess we'll have to wait and see what the future has in store for Shirely. Hopefully she gets one of the bigger roles in future entries. I love her and am always happy to see more of her. |
sensei256 said: Watch Re;Surrection. err i already did watch the movie |
| @sensei256 >What makes you think LelouchxShirley is possible, then? the first post showing the interview said there are plans to make Shirley a main character and not just a side character and will parallel the worldview of Lelouch and they said this "the more we portray Shirley, the more it becomes the story of Lelouch and Shirley" |
| I'm pretty sure that Lelouch x CC was meant to be end game and the PD that came as a bonus with preorders it takes place 10 years after the movie so the chances are slim to none unless they make a shoujo manga AU spinoff like with the Tutor Lelouch manga with Shirley as the main character then there is literally no way in hell Lelouch x Shirley will become canon at least in animated material. The only reason they kept her alive cause they couldn't fit her garbage arc from the original series into the movie and pretty much everyone, but Taniguchi wanted her fate to remain the same. So at the end of the day her character "development" if you can call it that from the series got axed to keep her alive. Still a one dimensional plot device 10 years later saddening. Lelouch x Shirley was a terrible pairing based on forced melodrama and tragedy. At least I can applaud the movie for making their relationship normal since her father lives I mean if they done it that way in the beginning 10 years ago and gave Shirley her own goals and motivations that does not involve Lelouch or her crush on him in any way shape or form then she probably would've been an okay character instead of a terrible one that makes me cringe half the time. |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
| hope not, cc for life |
womaneski said: i take it back, this is the right answerNo it won't, i think lelouch x suzaku would be the best choice! |
-GilgaSmash- said: deg said: err i already did watch the movie There's no way you watched the movie and think shirley x lelouch is possible err ok guess im having false memory of watching the movie lol |
-GilgaSmash- said: deg said: err ok guess im having false memory of watching the movie lol I mean . Lelouch literally choses cc at the end and ends up with her...what is there to theorize about there is a 10 year plan for Code Geass though so its not over yet there lots of story and twist and turns to come |
deg said: Man i hate the 10 year plan, Lelouches story should've ended in 2009, i don't see the point of the sequels especially since the end to Fukkatsu no Lelouch is basically the same as the original uncut ending of r2, i don't see what more can they do with the story.well this movie is a start of a 10 year plan for Code Geass so there is plenty of time to develop Shirley as the endgame lover of Lelouch Also the director(i think) confirmed that Lelouch calling himself L.L is his way of proposing to C.C |
Kobayasan said: deg said: Man i hate the 10 year plan, Lelouches story should've ended in 2009, i don't see the point of the sequels especially since the end to Fukkatsu no Lelouch is basically the same as the original uncut ending of r2, i don't see what more can they do with the story.well this movie is a start of a 10 year plan for Code Geass so there is plenty of time to develop Shirley as the endgame lover of Lelouch Also the director(i think) confirmed that Lelouch calling himself L.L is his way of proposing to C.C yep i agree but gonna milk that cash cow though lol capitalism at its finest this is why sometimes original anime are bad especially if they get too popular because they can extend the story as much as possible unlike an anime adaptation with a complete manga story as for the LL x CC end ye i do not mind that im a fan of CC too anyway its just that part of the interview on why they bring back Shirley is interesting for what will happen during the 10 year plan |
| When he decided to do the name change at the end I took it as him throwing away his past, including everyone from his school, black knights etc. I’m just expecting him to mainly work with C.C alone from here on. (Though they’ll likely cross paths with the others again in the future.) Maybe we will hear C.C’s real name in the next season too, during their interactions. |
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deg said: Lol season 5 starts with CC catching Lelouch in bed with Shirley and it becomes this big love triangle arc ending with Shirleys pregnancy, but its later revealed that its Suzakus baby, man i can't wait to see how disastrous this turns out to be(or maybe surprises me and ends up actually being good) yep i agree but gonna milk that cash cow though lol capitalism at its finest this is why sometimes original anime are bad especially if they get too popular because they can extend the story as much as possible unlike an anime adaptation with a complete manga story as for the LL x CC end ye i do not mind that im a fan of CC too anyway its just that part of the interview on why they bring back Shirley is interesting for what will happen during the 10 year plan |
Kobayasan said: I’m sure Lelouch will find a way to clone himself for Shirley, who actually thinks it’s the real him. (I’m solely basing this off of the BS that somehow brought Lelouch back to life in resurrection. They might try to repeat it and make another Lelouch using the same method.)deg said: Lol season 5 starts with CC catching Lelouch in bed with Shirley and it becomes this big love triangle arc ending with Shirleys pregnancy, but its later revealed that its Suzakus baby, man i can't wait to see how disastrous this turns out to be(or maybe surprises me and ends up actually being good) yep i agree but gonna milk that cash cow though lol capitalism at its finest this is why sometimes original anime are bad especially if they get too popular because they can extend the story as much as possible unlike an anime adaptation with a complete manga story as for the LL x CC end ye i do not mind that im a fan of CC too anyway its just that part of the interview on why they bring back Shirley is interesting for what will happen during the 10 year plan |
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-GilgaSmash- said: None of them are. You're just lying.GreenClock said: There are too many and I haven't watched CG s2 from ages but from the ones I remember are All of those are explained |
| The word elitist is stupid since it's just used by people who can't defend their favorite shows and use it on people who criticize their favorite shows. |
-GilgaSmash- said: GreenClock said: None of them are. You're just lying. You're just not able to understand the plot Charles and marianne dissaper as a result of lelouch using geass on god. In order for his wish to come true both of them had to go so that's what happened. It's not even an asspull nevermind a plot hole Which purple haired girl got stabbed in the stomach and came back ? And i really don't understand what you mean by "people being ok with japanese people cause lelouch became emperor" ... like this NEVER happened. Which people ? The people of britannia feared lelouch as a dictator therefore they couldn't do anything about the japanese...what other people was okay with the japanese? I don't get it :))))) 2: 3: I'm done with this argument since you just lied since you can't defend CG. I don't want to argue with a liar. |
| The word elitist is stupid since it's just used by people who can't defend their favorite shows and use it on people who criticize their favorite shows. |
| No It was officially LL x CC Or L2 x C2 |
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